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Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 29, 2018, 03:34:56 PM
Well then you’re as dumb as gdwhatever. Congrats!

So you think his military service wasn't emblematic of caring for our nation?

Can you start an "everyone's an Alex Jones acolyte" thread?

Asking for some Kid...

Did you watch it?

I did.

Comments?

Quote from: Jackstar on December 29, 2018, 03:28:42 PM
reeeeeeeeeeeeee

ikr?

The show always goes on.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 29, 2018, 03:27:46 PM
And therefore a globalist shill who didn’t give a shit about you or America.

Globalist shilll - check.

Care about me - zero.

I disagree on the latter, he did care about America, it was just an awfully abusive example of "care."

Quote from: WOTR on December 29, 2018, 03:10:33 PM
Possibly came off as more of a backhanded compliment than I had intended. 

Or possibly not, I thought you made cogent points.

And while Bart did build off MV's parody songs he also added his own unique style. The few open threads I saw in Ellgab indicated his target audience was enthralled by the little animation sideshow. So there's that.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 29, 2018, 03:24:21 PM
See the video I posted above. Idiots! :

See the citations I have posted below.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 29, 2018, 03:20:00 PM
You’re an idiot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLsPfYUp1QM

Point made.

Consider though that in his diminished physical and mental state that this may have been largely a misplaced personal animus swipe at Trump.

As evidence I cite:

Repeal and replace the massive federal health-care law

But in the end, McCain said the election is about a choice. While he said he'll fight to repeal and replace the massive federal health-care law and rein in pork-barrel spending, he predicted Glassman would push for another big-spending stimulus package, protect the unpopular health-care law and support the "corrupt practice of earmarks."
"He's clearly out of step with Arizona and with the people of this state," McCain said.
Source: Arizona Daily Star coverage of 2010 Arizona Senate debate , Sep 27, 2010

As I said, he's been on both sides of the issue for some goodly time.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 29, 2018, 03:11:12 PM
Then please, show me where he’s made any points worthy of remembering and I’ll explain how you’re wrong.

Oh come on, it's a few posts above this one:

QuoteThere never would’ve been McCain care. Thus no 8 year economic slowdown thanks to Obamacare. There wouldn’t have been a new race war. Nor the numerous other Obama crap that’s been discussed.

No ones argueing weather globalists exist or they are bad for not only the people of our country, but the people of every country. Central planing is bad for everyone but those doing the planning.

Those are points "worth remembering". Now feel free to pick them apart and do as you will. 

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 29, 2018, 03:09:01 PM
Yeah, well you think Tootsie is alright too. Forgive me for ignoring your input on this one.

Apples/oranges/collages...

Quote from: Jackstar on December 29, 2018, 03:00:07 PM
PARIS â€" Yellow vest protesters marched on the headquarters of leading French broadcasters Saturday, as small groups turned out Saturday in Paris and around France despite waning momentum for their movement.


You'd be watching it right now, but for all the heavy-duty infojamming. Sacré bleu!

Or there's the Mexican model:
http://on-murders.blogspot.com/2012/04/man-suspected-of-pedophilia-lynched-in.html
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/suspected-kidnappers-lynched-by-angry-mob/

Quote from: pyewacket on December 29, 2018, 02:56:40 PM
Yes, I knew things were changing, but I never thought in my lifetime, to see it happen to this degree. I can only hope to live to see the 'rubber band snap back' effect that is long overdue.

I never imagined it would end up where it is now either. But your ardor for the inevitable pendular snap back may be quelled by the sheer savagery and collateral damage of it. This species has NOT evolved past our innate barbarism, we've simply euphamised it.

Quote from: Jackstar on December 29, 2018, 02:55:49 PM
So now you've moved on to an interpretation that the "United States of America" is the same country that it was in 1607, and he's telling these kids to... what? Rebel against The Crown?

Did I even say that? I'm doing my best to guess how Webb's soliloquy finale might have been designed. As neither of us were there to see the script approved nor crafted it remains open to interpretation. He may have ball-parked a number or he may have been embedding meaning those "kids" would never have the wit to catch. We just can not know.

QuoteJust give up. You're terrible at this.

Did you think merely invoking Tartaria was going to be sufficient?

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 29, 2018, 03:06:36 PM
What debate?! You’re just covering your eyes and pretending it doesn’t exist. I win by default.

No you do not.

Gd has debated honestly and regularly. Kid is the one who produces strawmen.

Please learn to separate and sort accordingly.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 29, 2018, 02:52:08 PM
Nah! I’m sure you and the other globalist goons will try to keep it going wherever. 

I do not see him as a "globalist goon" by a long shot.

Kid I'm less certain of, but only because I sense he may be so loyal to his former CIC that he has immunized himself against any substantive critiques thereof.

Quote from: Gd5150 on December 29, 2018, 02:34:18 PM
Sorry but as bad as McCain was, and don’t get me started on the 2008 republican primaries, because I don’t know any republicans who wanted McCain, despite that, he was miles apart from Obama, and always will be.

Isn't a large part of that generational in nature? And also coming from a military familial heritage?

QuoteThere never would’ve been McCain care. Thus no 8 year economic slowdown thanks to Obamacare. There wouldn’t have been a new race war. Nor the numerous other Obama crap that’s been discussed.

Yes and also no:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/John_McCain_Health_Care.htm

Matching funds for seniors citizens’ prescription drugs

We’re asking senior citizens now to make a choice between their health and their income. They make too much money to be on Medicare and not enough to pay for their prescription drugs. We’ve got to devise a program that when a senior spends a certain part of their income on these prescription drugs that we’ll have a state and federal match for it. We can’t do that to our senior citizens.
Source: Des Moines Iowa GOP Debate , Dec 13, 1999

Expand health insurance to 11 million uninsured children

[We have] 11 million children without health insurance. We’ve got to expand the children’s health insurance program. And I’ll tell you what: I have the guts to take the money where it shouldn’t be spent in Washington and put it where it should be spent, including 10 percent of the surplus.
Source: Des Moines Iowa GOP Debate , Dec 13, 1999

Health care is a responsibility: just make it available

Q: Is health care in America a privilege, a right, or a responsibility?
McCAIN: I think it’s a responsibility, in this respect, in that we should have available and affordable health care to every American citizen, to every family member. And with the plan that I have, that will do that. But government mandates I’m always a little nervous about. But it is certainly my responsibility. It is certainly small-business people and others, and they understand that responsibility. American citizens understand that. Employers understand that.
OBAMA: Well, I think it should be a right for every American. In a country as wealthy as ours, for us to have people who are going bankrupt because they can’t pay their medical bills--for my mother to die of cancer at the age of 53 and have to spend the last months of her life in the hospital room arguing with insurance companies--there’s something fundamentally wrong about that.
Source: 2008 second presidential debate against Barack Obama , Oct 7, 2008


..and if you wade through the rest of his public statements you'll see he had both sides of this issue a number of times, albeit he was more in the camp of not getting big gubmint as the gatekeeper...except those times when he was OK with that:

Expand health insurance to 11 million uninsured children

[We have] 11 million children without health insurance. We’ve got to expand the children’s health insurance program. And I’ll tell you what: I have the guts to take the money where it shouldn’t be spent in Washington and put it where it should be spent, including 10 percent of the surplus.
Source: Des Moines Iowa GOP Debate , Dec 13, 1999

QuoteNo ones argueing weather globalists exist or they are bad for not only the people of our country, but the people of every country. Central planing is bad for everyone but those doing the planning.

AMEN!

QuoteLet us know when something new happens with globalism. It really needs its own thread.

Maybe not so much "new" as "recent/ongoing" perhaps...

Shall we start with Soros' latest Honduran (now fully armed) caravan?

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/second-caravan-armed-guns-explosives/
A second caravan of migrants has broken through to Mexico having crossed a river from Guatemala, and authorities report that some of them are armed with explosives and other weapons.

The Associated Press, via Daily Mail, reports that the mob has been much more unruly than the first, with some allegedly carrying weapons and firebombs made from improvised soft-drink bottles and gasoline.

The group has seemingly upgraded their arsenal, having used rocks and sticks against Mexican police over the weekend.

Quote from: Jackstar on December 29, 2018, 02:49:26 PM
Is that where you're at on this? Like, maybe Dragnet was improvisational?


Jesus! Mary! Joseph the fuckin' carpenter!!!!

Oh no, not improv at all - just a short form dramatic emphasis that the number 400 carries over the more mathematically accurate 350 years (1607-20 colonial period).

Quote from: Jackstar on December 29, 2018, 02:42:43 PM
That's no reason we can't start executing people for it.

As long as it resolves to:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381#
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

So who thinks we lack the balls to do more than imprison and fine?

Quote from: pyewacket on December 29, 2018, 02:35:01 PM
I interpret the reference to the 1500s to mean the colonization and exploration of the continent as a build up to the foundation of the United States of America.

Apparently, I may be the only one who see it this way. I guess I don't expect an expert executive summary of North American history from one of Joe Friday's diatribes.

Propaganda is nothing new and was employed way before the advent of television. The only difference I see today, other than the destructive/progressive ideology, is that they do not seem to try and hide it anymore.

Good answers, perhaps Webb was short-forming his answer to account for the full arc of American history dating back to Columbus' bogus 1492 Hispanola citation.

But your larger point is taken, propaganda pre-dates modern "entertainment" by the full spectrum of human nature:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_propaganda
Primitive forms of propaganda have been a human activity as far back as reliable recorded evidence exists. The Behistun Inscription (c. 515 BC) detailing the rise of Darius I to the Persian throne is viewed by most historians as an early example of propaganda.[1] The Arthashastra written by Chanakya (c. 350 â€" 283 BC), a professor of political science at Takshashila University and a prime minister of the Maurya Empire in ancient India, discusses propaganda in detail, such as how to spread propaganda and how to apply it in warfare. His student Chandragupta Maurya (c. 340 â€" 293 BC), founder of the Maurya Empire, employed these methods during his rise to power.[2] The writings of Romans such as Livy (c. 59 BC â€" 17 AD) are considered masterpieces of pro-Roman propaganda.[citation needed] The most well-known originator of Roman historiography was Quintus Fabius Pictor (3rd century BCE). His style of writing history defending the Roman state actions and using propaganda heavily eventually became a defining characteristic of Roman historiography.

In fact one could easily make the leap that early cave art was propagandist in nature. Think turf wars and hominid dominance and developmental strife.

That said, is the transparency of propaganda any greater today than in the days of say, the "yellow kid"?



Or is it simply the ubiquity, concentration, and more importantly the velocity of it?

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on December 29, 2018, 02:12:15 PM
My pension is doing just fine.  It's something I traded 26 years of my life for that included much time at sea during which I missed many weekends, holidays, birthdays, etc., while paying the same taxes,  FICA, etc. that you did?  What have you done for God and Country?

I thank you for your service to our nation - truly.

But I despise your personal "all or nothing" strawman demonization act - truly.

Quote from: pyewacket on December 29, 2018, 02:06:41 PM
I obviously interpreted this video differently. I was not put off by the 400 year reference because it was part of our country's history prior to the Revolution when we went from 'United Colonies' to 'United States'. Enough American colonists decided they wanted change and did want they had to to bring that about.

Hang on a minute, colonists, that would be an earliest date of 1607-1620...so this would have to be an episode of Dragnet from 2007...not 1967...

QuotePerhaps I am missing some hidden message. Are you saying that this is an example of Operation Mockingbird?

I had read some about the history of the Rus' (Русь) people, but did not make the same connection that some of you have.

Carry on- we like conversation here.

I think Jack stirred the old pot again, and that's no bad thing at all!

Yeah, but there was actual work that went into those documentaries.

Anyway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBomcBAmY-g

Ay caramba, oh what the heck!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9P-JjbDD6U

Quote from: expat on December 29, 2018, 01:11:44 PM
Zackly. Well said. "Investigative journalist" my ass...

So how'd she pull all of this off???


http://www.higherjourneys.com/linda-moulton-howe-living-computer-simulation/
Linda Moulton Howe is a graduate of Stanford University with a Masters Degree in Communication. She has devoted her documentary film, television and radio career to productions concerning science, medicine and the environment.

Ms. Howe has received local, national and international awards, including three regional Emmys and a national Emmy nomination. Those films have included Poison in the Wind and A Sun Kissed Poison which compared smog pollution in Los Angeles and Denver; Fire In The Water about hydrogen as an alternative energy source to fossil fuels; A Radioactive Water about uranium contamination of public drinking water in a Denver suburb; and A Strange Harvest which explored the worldwide animal mutilation mystery which has haunted the United States and other countries from the mid-20th century to date.

Linda has also received honors as a medical producer in Boston’s WCVB Station Excellence Peabody Award, received the Aviation & Space Writers Association Award for Writing Excellence in Television, Sigma Delta Chi Excellence In Journalism Award, a Chicago Film Festival Golden Plaque for A Radioactive Water, a national Emmy Award nomination for Poison in the Wind and A Sun Kissed Poison.

Linda was honored with the Colorado Florence Sabin Award for “outstanding contribution to public health” and received three regional Emmys for Writing Achievement, Directing and Sound Editing for her documentary investigations: Fire in the Water, A Radioactive Water and A Strange Harvest.

Linda also received Ohio State Awards for Fire in the Water and Borrowed Faces and actor Robert Redford, founder of the Sundance Film Festival and prominent environmentalist, presented Linda with a Citizens Participation Award from the U. S. Environmental Protection Agency for television documentaries about air pollution and energy alternatives to fossil fuels.

Linda has also received national and international honors including the Cine Golden Eagle presented to Borrowed Facesfor “excellence to represent the United States in international motion picture events abroad.”

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 29, 2018, 10:11:28 AM
I see Donna Reed. 

Um...yeah, a bit of her too:

Quote from: Uncle Duke on December 28, 2018, 09:46:45 PM
She looks like Dawn Wells, at least when they were younger.

Just a tad - yes:

 

And so on. Research is the funz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZbIj9Vhbeg

Quote from: albrecht on December 28, 2018, 08:29:42 PM
Why are so many of your postings relating to other borders but, more importantly, not openable in normal things but want to open up new windows, run scripts, 'save only' before opening, etc? I'm not accusing you, since my, likely already compromised, devices could, actually, be alerting me to something 'they' don't want me to see! But why not jpg, on an open-hosting site, embedded uploaded pics, or links to, somewhat, legit news sources that can be "looked at" before opening? Not only you and I suspect some is just my computer but still that one seems like an article or video so post the actual link to it. (With caveats if your are concerned about sites, bots, or opening programs like pdfs etc as I try to do.) Not that I'm good on this either. But we can't look at your stuff in many cases!

Here you go:

https://rightoftheright.com/sweden-threatens-4-years-in-prison-for-anyone-sharing-backpacker-beheading-video/

(from the comments after)
Flanders says
DECEMBER 26, 2018 AT 12:20 PM
Be sure to read the links provided in the comments section of this article linked below, too, and especially those provided by Balder. Note also that the biggest jew media conglomerate in Sweden and Europe also operates in Australia and the US, too, but tries to keep a low profile while doing so.

“Sweden’s Radicalized Leftist Kosher Media Monopolizes ‘Truth’ About Migration”

http://www.renegadetribune.com/swedens-radicalized-leftist-kosher-media-monopolizes-truth-migration/

REPLY
Chesterton says
DECEMBER 27, 2018 AT 8:20 AM
Thanks for reminding everyone, Flanders, about the jewish orwellian control of the entire mainstream media in Sweden. One would think that the “fair play” Swedes would want more democratic representation in the ownership of their media, but that would be antisemitic.

Maybe Jack thought the comments would diminish the message and opted out of the url thusly.

Quote from: Jackstar on December 28, 2018, 08:21:23 PM
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I would strongly encourage anyone who can avoid viewing the video, to do so.

Indeed so. It's as bad as the S. African woman who's butchered in the bush which John B  Wells had on his page.