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Quote from: 14 on June 16, 2018, 01:51:43 PM
Why would you ask "why", when it never even happened?

I have contributed about 4 posts.
1.  Appreciating Trump's haircut.
2.  Appreciating self-defense weapons.
3.  Lightening up uncivil debate with descriptions of the Trump White House china.
4.  A mistakenly placed praise for a former president.

I would hardly call appreciating Trump's haircut an obsession over men vs. women.  Women raise men; men have daughters.  If you think I obsess over "vs. men", you should consider how I feel about the women who raise them or marry them just for a paycheck.

As far as asking if this thread is just for men, I was merely asking, because I wasn't sure if a woman would be welcome during discussion (at the time) regarding the thoughts of grouped men regarding the mostly 30-year ago sex appeal of the following women:  Minako Honda, Jan Kuehnemund, Joan Jett, The Go-Gos, Wendy Wilson, Susana Hoffs, Ann Wilson, Jane Weidlin, Belinda, The Spice Girls, and Cindi Lauper.

Does your suit get moist like my rubberized one late in the day?

Fourteen

Fourteen,

You are most welcome in this thread or any other.  So, do you think S Hoffs has held up well after all these years?

Quote from: brig on June 16, 2018, 01:18:07 PM
Senda, I hate to say I told you so, but I predicted the IPad fatality, the day before you left.  You really should learn to read your thread.

Thats right, you did predict that.  I predicted a ceiling video and sinus infection.  Either you know George better than the rest of us, or you truly are a witch like George claims!  Wink.

Quote from: Metron2267 on June 16, 2018, 12:38:51 PM
I have no familiarity with the deep South but your answer is a sound one - no way that we can separate environment and experience from outlook.

That's a really insightful moment in the history of slang terms vs. mechanical ones.

I don't have some magic bullet  for how we get past innocently meant double meanings, but I do know that using the n-bomb helps no one ever, especially those blacks who have taken it over into their own lingo as a means of demystifying and disempowering it.

Their continuance of the word, even in a cloistered format is, I feel, a form of racism also.

If the word needs to die, then just let it die completely.

My .02c - adjusted for inflation of course... :

Yeah, I've always considered the word to be quite offensive.  The other word I was forbidden to say was "cunt."  Only since spending time in this forum with the likes of Pud, O'Neill, and Sred. ..er...Mr. Vashtar, has it taken on a whole new shine for me.  Growing up in North Dakota, I was led to believe that the word "cunt" and the word "squaw" were equally offensive and meant the same thing.  Given the fact that there were a large number of Native Americans in and around the area, I avoided all words that could have some negative connotation toward Native Americans except for "filthy redskin" and "dirty injun" which I reserved for a friend of mine.

Quote from: Metron2267 on June 16, 2018, 11:44:52 AM
I have seen this play out at the range so many times that it's become a bit of a meme. Women, for whatever reason, seem to have some natural ability to lock on and progress in a very measured and skillful manner.

I always think they're going to mimic my tendency to yank the first few shots anticipating the recoil and yet it never seems to be the case.

Love to watch the ladies shoot!

And that is how all responsible gun owners (I believe) feel.

We had an instructor who said women are better students when it comes to firearms training.  I don't doubt it at all.

Quote from: WOTR on June 16, 2018, 12:10:30 PM
I hope he remembered to pack the white speedos.

Cannonball!

Quote from: Metron2267 on June 16, 2018, 11:39:52 AM
YES!

Every time you invoke racism to define basic human misdeeds you cheapen every person of every color.

If every crappy car sold was made in just one color it'd be so easy to avoid buying one, eh?

Here's a clue - human nature isn't determined by a paint job.

Grow the FUCK up, asshole!

I have a friend who says the same...there's a difference.  I grew up in North Dakota, he lives in Shreveport.  I don't  judge.

I do get a kick how people get all bent out of shape over words.

About ten years ago, I worked for a company who provided services for people with developmental disabilities and I went with another guy from work to see about taking over a contract for our sheltered workshop.  It entailed putting together oxygen masks for a company who supplied them to the airlines. 
We went to the place and were observing people putting the masks together.  The Forman was a black lady and the workforce was about 25 percent black.  She told us they were having problems with one particular step and took us to one corner where about eight or ten people where putting some kind of whirlygig on a line of something.  We observed for a bit and my co-worker exclaimed that what they needed was more Jigs on the job.  The lady stopped dead in her tracks and this black guy stopped what he was doing and glared up at us.  It took everything I had to keep from laughing. I told her he meant the guides they were using On the tabletop.  She had never heard them called that before.  We left and as soon as we got to the parkinglot, my co-worker asked about the uncomfortable and awkward moment.  I had to explain to him that the word "jig" could be construed as derogatory to black people.  He had never heard of it.

Quote from: SredniVashtar on June 16, 2018, 11:47:17 AM
Lemme put it this way. Although I wouldn't go so far as to consider you an equal, I 'd be happy to let you collect my mail, mow my lawn etc. I don't think I can say fairer than that.

Lol. Fair enough, Mr. Vashtar.

Quote from: WhiteCrow on June 16, 2018, 11:14:29 AM
George was just all tuckered out from the train ride and late night search for food.. I'm sure he'll recharge when he is at Aliencon today amongst his loyal and adoring fans.

Yes!  In  George's mind, he has 1100 suscribers, they all must be fans of the paranormal and not the fact that he is an amusing buffoon, therefore at least 80 percent of them must be at the con and therefore shouldn't have any problem parting with their funds to see to it that he gets put up for another night on their dime, with all other goods and services he may need of course.

Quote from: Metron2267 on June 16, 2018, 10:57:04 AM
OMG!

You gave this 'guy' two freaking years of troll time?

Why?

It hasn't learned one damned thing!

Because I enjoy it.

Quote from: Metron2267 on June 16, 2018, 10:50:51 AM
Uh, have you glimmered to the realization that this limey turd is TROLING you?

C'mon man - wakey wakey!

Gorsh, I only been talkin with Mr. Vashtar, if he prefers, fer a couple years now, but thanks fer settin things straight.

Quote from: The legend of the Phoenix on June 16, 2018, 10:43:27 AM
It's actually him

Are you sure that's not Jim McMahon?

Quote from: The legend of the Phoenix on June 16, 2018, 10:29:26 AM
Like Nicolas Cage in Bangkok Dangerous

Not familiar with it but Bangkok sounds dangerous...and painful.

Quote from: The legend of the Phoenix on June 16, 2018, 10:03:07 AM
No but I have agents in the field and I'm also going through people's Instagrams

If you had assassins  in the field I would be better intrigued.

Quote from: SredniVashtar on June 16, 2018, 10:07:31 AM
No, you convinced me (whatever happened to Mr Vashtar btw?). I think you ought to be given at least two guns each, regardless of age or sex. Then, if we can arrange a nice big Mexican standoff with all 300 million of you, and you remember to pull the trigger when I say fire, I can get myself a nice Malibu beach house. It's not America I objected to, it's the awful people inside it.

Mr Vashtar, if you prefer,

I'm not interested in a Mexican standoff, nor any other.  I am interested in keeping my family safe.  No standoff, but if they cross threshold....

I am not interested in any scenario where I willfully let my family become victims. 

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 16, 2018, 10:08:45 AM

Is that a fact? My next door neighbour and his family are black, the guy across the road moved there in 1979, he and his family are Indian ancestry, next door but one on the other side are black, and the family next door to that, and the one after. Over the back on the other street are  black and Mexican (immediately behind)...I'd say easily 50%-60% of our street and the surrounding streets are non white families.  We've lived here since February and had no issues with anyone.

Then you are lucky to be living in such a neighborhood.  We've lived here thirteen years.  When we moved in, there were only two rental houses on the entire block.  Now more than half are rentals.  I have Hispanic and black neighbors and friends too.  Surly you understand the difference between law abiding citizens and gutter trash don't you?

Quote from: Kizuna Ai on June 16, 2018, 09:43:08 AM
LOL!!!!!!1

Liberals are pushing ghetto trash nigger cattle into white neighborhoods trying to diversify white peaceful low crime neighborhoods. It's getting harder to escape violent niggers and shit skins they only choice we have now is to Trayvon the bastards.

The ghetto has been moved from the inner cities to the once peaceful neighborhoods we grew up in. I have no sympathy for anyone that breaks into my house all i will feel is recoil.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ctFe-xmuz8

Yeah, that's another thing that has changed in the last couple years.  They started to deliver the mail early in the morning before the Sendas and shitburgers get out of bed.  I'm usually on my screened porch, drinking coffee when the poor bastard comes thru, wearing his safari hat, eyes bugged out and shifting from side to side like he's in the Serengeti being hunted by lions. 

Quote from: SredniVashtar on June 16, 2018, 08:51:43 AM
If I can't convince you perhaps this guy can:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3zKCIf-vfbc

I don't think any normal, well adjusted person is prepared to kill someone. We either treat those people who are as mentally ill, or criminals. Or have them join the army. You sound reasonably normal - although it's a low bar on here - but you haven't convinced me that you are fully aware of the consequences.

That is a great line delivered by Clint.  Here's another (NOT SAFE TO LISTEN AT WORK OR AROUND KIDS).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu_LCNLillU

Sredni, I don't know how to convince you.  It may not be possible.  Look, I don't want to kill anything.  I have shot game animals to supplement food for the table.  I never enjoyed it all that much.  I'm not a killer.  My family teases me for catching wayward spiders, wasps and the like so I can throw them outside.  My career, before I got sick, involved helping those with mental illness and developmental disability.  I have compassion for people, and I do my best to understand their problems.  But when their problems, their addictions, their sick predilections become such that they disregard other people, when they become as selfish as a human being can possibly be and have no regard for other's safety and security or innocence?  You can't help them any longer.  If I am the only thing standing between such a person and my wife and children I will use everything at my disposal to stop them.  If I need counseling afterward, so be it.  We are talking about the basic need to survive here, Sredni.

Quote from: SredniVashtar on June 16, 2018, 01:45:56 AM
If the dangers are such that you're so worried for the safety of your family then I would move. I don't care how hard it is to arrange. If you can live with it you have to ask yourself if having a gun is really the answer. Never mind that accidents can happen, are you really prepared to kill someone? Say you live somewhere that lets people off lightly for killing burglars, and you haven't spent all your savings in legal fees. You now spend the rest of your life knowing you're a killer, and so does your family. Don't underestimate the impact it could have on your mental health.

Also, remember that you could get family members coming after you looking for revenge, so you'd end up creating more problems. Your family would be in more danger then too. You'd be looking over your shoulder all the time and would have to move anyway. There's also the question whether you'd lose your nerve when it came to shooting a warm body when you'd be more decisive with a baseball bat.

I think guns give you a false sense of security. You'd be better off with something non-lethal.

Lol. My wife and I, and half the neighborhood, would like to move sometimes.  Half our neighbors are great.  The lady who lives next door is 90, has been living in her house for over 50 years.  She just lost her son to Parkinson's. The neighbors across the street, the neighbors two houses to the south, and my wife and I take turns checking in on her, taking her to Dr. Appts, etc.  The lady across the street grew up on this street.  None of us are prepared to move, nor do we want to when it comes right down to it.  You can't just pick up and move because some shitburger(s) moved into the neighborhood.  Wait long enough and they will leave.  They'll stop paying rent or for their utilities, or get arrested too many times.  We can't go anywhere at this time, just not set up for it financially.  I am recovering from a long-time illness and it has pretty well tapped us out.  The market is great right now to sell, but where would we go?  We have a shortage of houses for sale.

As far as a gun being the answer?  It's only part of the answer.  We have other  security measures in place, many of which 14 mentioned.  We are completely comfortable having guns in the house.  As I pointed out, my kids are familiar with them.  It's been my experience that when you keep something from children, forbid something, that's when curiosity becomes a problem.  Take that out of the equation.  They each have their own plinking rifles, they shoot from time to time, and they know and understand the destructive capabilities of firearms.  They understand that when you pull a trigger, you cannot take it back.  Now, if they have friends over, I put the gun on the fridge away.  I cannot account for other people's kids.

My wife and I were both country as a chicken coop growing up.  Guns were part of our lives, tools on the farm used for sport, to supplement food stock, to dispatch foul critters threatening livestock. A few of my guns are heirlooms passed down.  I never went anywhere on our property without a pocket knife or without a small pistol in my pocket.  No self-respecting farm kid went to school without a jack in his pocket.  We compared them, traded them, sold them at recess, and everyone had a .22 and a shotty on a rack in the window of the truck.  How times have changed!  A few years ago, my kid and a couple others had to go to the Principal's office for pretending to hunt dinosaurs at recess.


Am I prepared to kill someone?  I don't want to kill anyone, but yes, I we are prepared.  We have things set up here as to eliminate the possibility of some drunk stumbling into the wrong house.  If someone is in this house, they had to work to get in, and therefore I don't have to assume intention.

Do we understand the legal implications of using deadly force?  Yes, we do.  There's a saying in our country, it's a bit cliché, but it goes "I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six," or something like that.   

As far as mental health?  I grew up in a Catholic environment, they pound a guilty conscious into you as soon as you leave the womb.

Quote from: starramus on June 16, 2018, 05:24:20 AM
Erratic,rude, crude, selfish is how the Chinese are describing Tinyhands. A kulak (well off peasant) at the helm will make amerikkka a "shithole" country.

And the Chinese officials are swell.

Quote from: Rally Squirrel on June 16, 2018, 06:03:39 AM
It is a very Senda road trip playing out just as expected.
He said he would be fine on Friday night, he brought a wash cloth so he could clean up in a restroom and would just sit in a lobby.

He was going to pack bologna, bread, cheese and packets of condiments and he was not going to waste money on junk. He can survive on fruit and food.

So he ends up eating all the food he brought while on the train and checked into his room on Friday. He then went out to get food and came back with Snapple, a candy bar, two big bags of chips, a chilli burger and fries.

The burger was too spicy yet he ate it all, I predict it will attack him at the convention.

LOL.  I love the part where he gets off the train and is shambling around, dragging his shit, asking people for directions, including a person pushing/dragging a trashcan.  "Excuse me, sir, madam..I don't know what you are because I can't see very well, especially at night.  I'm lost."

Quote from: starramus on June 15, 2018, 09:51:28 PM

https://youtu.be/tzlc-KsIUIU

Hello, I'm Billy Joe.  I never raped nor killed anyone.  What is it you are looking for?

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 15, 2018, 09:45:36 PM
Is he nearly there yet?

No, it's:

Is the fat cunt dead?   'member?

Quote from: Rally Squirrel on June 15, 2018, 08:55:17 PM
I believe it was a Marie Calandrs turkey pot pie.

He really struggles with poultry doesn't he?

Quote from: The legend of the Phoenix on June 15, 2018, 08:47:24 PM

https://youtu.be/6Zv_azYRyZE

The Guy in the wheelchair at the end of the vid...is that our boy goldbricking before he even gets in the front door?

New prediction: a typical horizontal from-the-bed video with wavering voice... "This is the guy from Pittsburgh....uhh...unngh...sinus infection."

That guy looks like Bruce Dern.

Someone should get a hold of O'neill.  I think the fat cunt may actually be dead.

Quote from: Bluejay on June 15, 2018, 07:41:04 PM

You are a sick, SICK man!

Quote from: chefist on June 15, 2018, 07:22:30 PM
Kathy's hoo hoo?

There may well be something growing there, but I doubt it is a pearl.

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on June 15, 2018, 06:57:04 PM
Yes, the Muslim threat is infinitesimal.  It's the death cult of peace after all.

As far as drunken white yobs looking for trouble, it's amazing how much more careful and respectful they are when they don't know who among them can defend themselves with deadly force.  Pulling a gun out is mostly not necessary, it's the idea that it's a possibility.  I doubt this will compute for you, but ask any criminal.

The anti-gun stuff knows no bounds.  My family lives in what used to be a pretty nice neighborhood.  Since the housing market crashed, many of the smaller houses in the neighborhood have become rental properties.  The house cattycorner and across the street has become a commune of sorts.  At least four families live in it, and maybe more.  They seem to come and go constantly.  I'd wager that everyone throws in a hundred or two every month and they have a place to crash on the cheap.  The cops are over there constantly.  Drugs are a certainty.  A couple weeks ago, a kid was walking by their house and one of their many dogs ran over and bit him on the leg.  The kid refused to call the cops because he said he knew a couple of the guys who stay there and he feared repercussions should he turn them in. We've had some break-ins in the area, houses, garages, and vehicles.  I keep a pistol in my pocket when I'm home and I keep a bigger gun on top of the fridge.


Last week we had some friends come over for dinner and a movie.  My friend went to get something out of the fridge and saw the gun on top of it.  He was shocked, asked if it was loaded.  I gave him the John Wayne answer...a gun that isn't loaded isn't good for anything.  "You keep a loaded gun around your kids," he asked disgustedly.  I told him about the local problem, but it didn't seem to make a dent.  He asked why I didn't keep it in the safe.  I told him that if I thought some shitbag that breaks in would mind waiting around for me to open the safe, I might be willing to do that.  "Guns are dangerous!"  Potentially, yes, I answered, but so are the knives in that butcher block and so is the chemicals in the cleaning agents on the cupboard and under the sink.  I don't expect my kid to take a steak knife and stab the other, nor do I expect them to pop the lid of the Lysol and drink it, nor do I expect them to shoot themselves or one another.  I don't expect those things to happen because I have taught them not to.  My kids know right from wrong.  The guy or guys who are not welcome to bust in here don't.  I told him I was sorry he was uncomfortable about the situation but that it would be asinine to expect me to put the gun away and not the knives or the chemicals.


At what point did we lose our collective minds and get all silly about guns?  Yes, I know that they are used for wrong by bad people.  But NOT here in my house they aren't.  There ain't no bad people here.