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#61
Random Topics / Re: Things That Annoy You
November 03, 2013, 01:29:10 PM
Quote from: Sardondi on November 03, 2013, 12:47:08 PM
A quick detour for a short war story about cattle prods. Once upon a time, years ago, I was involved in the prosecution of three smalltown cops who occasionally tortured suspects by using cattle prods to extract confessions. The FBI even recovered two of the prods which had been thrown into a creek by one of the officers in an attempt to hide the evidence. One of the cops was represented at trial by a big, blustering ex-football jock named "Big Al." Big Al was an asshole and a bully. He was also essentially stupid, although he had a certain low animal cunning that made him a dangerous enough trial opponent. But he would make these tremendous assumptions, not realizing he was doing it.

One assumption he made was that these cattle prods were essentially harmless. After all, his clients had told him so. And they were powered by just 4 D-cell batteries. How painful could it be to get shocked by that? It's just some little sissy nigrah convicts making a big deal out of nothing and trying to get our brave po-lice in trouble, right?

And truth to tell the testimony of the victims hadn't been all that effective. They were for the most part jailbirds, and their stories did tend to change some. It was looking dicey for a conviction, particularly since cops were the defendants.

So Al is cross examining the FBI agent who recovered the cattle prods. He's holding a new and undamaged identical model of cattle prod which has been admitted as an exhibit to show the jury what the things looked like before they were bent and thrown into the creek. Al is getting the FBI agent to admit certain things which make it appear the prods are little buzzers which work more on the theory of surprise or noise than on an actual shock. And somehow Big Al gets the bright idea that he's going to demonstrate the prod in open court, and show the jury how there's nothing to these little buzzing doohickeys. It'll be a Clarence Darrow moment, and Al will be a legend in the courthouse. 

Except he's never tried it out before. He had no idea what the cattle prods could do. No idea. And he asks the question, "Why, these things don't even really hurt, do they Mr. FBI man?" And in open court he jams the cattle prod into his own thigh.

And it was like someone kicked him in the balls. He immediately leans forward and lets out a big "OOOOOFFFFF!" like someone punched him in the gut, staggering, almost falling down. He looks up totally dumbfounded, clearly never having considered that those battery-powered things could do something like this. So he turns to the prosecution table and, before he could catch himself, in a stage whisper everyone could hear, he says, "Damn, that hurts!"

He recovered himself enough to get a few more questions out, but he finally had to sit down. It was obvious that one shot from the prod had taken a real toll on him. We couldn't have asked for better testimony. And so it was Big Al became a legend in the courthouse - but for how his idiocy convicted his client, not for his Clarence Darrow genius. Ah, good days, good days.

Okay, back to the thread.

Best Sardondi story yet.
#62
Random Topics / Re: WTF did I just hear on my radio.
November 03, 2013, 07:14:09 AM
Quote from: TumbleWeed on November 03, 2013, 03:37:57 AM
Listening to am radio tonight.
Local station only a few miles away comeing in clear and strong. All of a sudden the program goes dead air, folowed by a man saying something in a language I cannot place. Just sounded like jibberish.
Then there were a few odd electronicy noises,some buzzing sounds and the program came back on.


Sure it wasn't Noory trying hs tuning fork experiment again ?
#63
Random Topics / Re: Things That Annoy You
November 03, 2013, 07:12:16 AM
Quote from: ItsOver on November 02, 2013, 09:17:10 PM
  I swear, some people go to the grocery for a meal of food samples and fruit pilfering.

I'm not proud to admit that I know several people (yes, women all, with the occasional whipped husband) who travel to Sam's Club every Saturday morning to roam the store breakfasting on the free samples.

You'd have to tie me down and pry my mouth open to get me to eat something that was cooked in an electric frying pan by a (very nice) septuagenarian on the sales floor of a big box store.
#64
Radio and Podcasts / Re: John B. Wells
November 03, 2013, 07:01:53 AM
Quote from: FightTheFuture on November 03, 2013, 06:17:05 AM
Was there anybody who WASN'T in Dallas when JFK was shot?

Yeah, there were three guys who weren't there, but they did make it to Woodstock.


QuoteI think it's just very difficult for people to accept the reality of a lone screwball like LHO taking down such a beloved leader. But, that's precisely what happened.

Almost all available evidence to the contrary ...
#65
Politics / Re: I Hate Liberals and Democrat Voters
November 02, 2013, 05:48:19 PM
Quote from: Sardondi on November 02, 2013, 04:05:52 PM
I don't understand the supposed complaint of those who think Amazon is doing something improper by "avoiding taxes", as if there is some duty for a business to structure their actions so as to implicate a taxable event. I particularly don't understand that attitude of "O woe is me! Amazon won't let me pay my appropriate taxes!". This smacks of hypocrisy.


And I don't understand the constant bleating by brick and mortar store owners about the 'advantage' Amazon has over them by not charging sales tax. Your customers come to you, Grandpa. Amazon has to ship products to their customers, and despite the fact that they (and you) refer to it as 'free shipping', UPS and Fedex still want to be paid. The shipping costs are built in to Amazon's pricing, even if it isn't broken out as a separate line item on the invoice, and often amount to more than what the 6% sales tax would be in my state. I think the playing field is pretty level.

On a philisophical note, would it be the end of the world if we had one tiny aspect of our lives that isn't regulated, taxed and controlled by bureaucrats ? As Sardondi said, not every human transaction should be required to generate revenue for some government.
#66
Anyone who can make any sense at all of this from Noory's Monday guest: http://www.duncancameronrealitywalker.com wins a cookie.
#67
Quote from: nooryisawesome on November 01, 2013, 09:35:01 AM
I know noory likes to add last minute guests but I noticed there are no split shows scheduled for next week. Maybe noory has a big week of poaching planned.

Noory likes to occasionally test his ad lib abilities and have a guest on at the last minute who he hasn't had time to prepare for and ...

Oh, wait ...
#68
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Haiku for Noory-san
October 30, 2013, 01:16:22 PM
jackstar goes all troll
alcohol or something else?
hope he's sober soon
#70
It's 45 minutes to showtime and I still don't know where to go to hear this. Am I missing something ?
#71
Quote from: Eddie Coyle on October 28, 2013, 11:53:24 AM
         So I should cross you off the list for the Secret Santa for Falkie Fund? Ok, I'll just double my donation.

No, I'm still in if onan can score the Thorazine.
#72
A while back, falkie was begging for money (as seems to be his habit) from other BellGabbers to buy an XM radio. area51 seemed to indicate he would send some. Probably came to his senses.

I've had falkie on Ignore for quite a while. If I ran this board, I'd ban him for terminal narcissism, if nothing else.
#73
rs-71 sucks just like SR-71. I'm going back to sleep.
#74
Politics / Re: Politics
October 27, 2013, 09:53:38 AM
Quote from: NowhereInTime on October 27, 2013, 09:11:20 AM
So, correct my confused mind; me and Qunt Karl hurling spitballs at each other is problematic for our Republic but calling for armed, bloody insurrection is the way to go?


No flaming here. Technically I didn't 'call for' revolution, but rather said it was the only possible solution to our current situation (though aldous mentioned another).

Your state may be different from mine, but our state legislature is every bit as controlled by special interests as Congress, despite term limits. I believe that the system is itself corrupting, and anyone elected to state or federal office is either corrupt to begin with, or becomes so shortly after arrival.

Local politics is the same in large cities (look at the Detroit City Council, if you have the stomach for it), and in small towns is mostly a 'Howdy, Neighbor!' quilting bee without the needles or meaningful end product.
#75
How To Use BellGab / Re: YouTube Videos In Your Post
October 27, 2013, 08:40:25 AM
I haven't tried in a while, but I was also having trouble Copying and Pasting. Only thing that worked for me was to paste my content into the posting box before I added anything else. Typing text into the posting box seemed to turn the post into an <iframe> and you can't Paste into an <iframe>. Pasting at any time seems to work for me now, though.

#76
Politics / Re: Politics
October 27, 2013, 08:32:27 AM
Quote from: Quick Karl on October 26, 2013, 10:05:47 PM
The responsibility for the fraud and corruption in Government rests directly on the shoulders of the voters. Elect people that tell you one thing, do something else, then blame on their opponents, while they're all getting richer, and you get what we have.

If you want to change that, you have to find people to vote for that you believe will go to Washington and actually do what they promise you they will, in return for your vote.

HAHAHAHA

Like who? Another Democrat or another Republican? Or maybe the 'third party' candidate (Libertarian, Green, Free Love, whatever) who gets 167 votes after speeches no one hears about his/her wackadoodle proposals?

Look at b_dubb's post just above yours. It's over. Our government has been totally and permanently co-opted by a political class and their corporate cronies. It doesn't matter how much everyone on this forum 'cares', and it certainly doesn't matter how often you and NowhereInTime flame each other.

The only people in this country who have the power and ability to change things for the better are the people who benefit from the way things are now, and the only possible solution to what ails our formerly great Republic is bloody revolution.

You guys keep whining at each other about whether Mao was a right- or left-winger, though. I might be wrong and finally deciding that very important question might be the thing that fixes the whole system.
#77
Random Topics / Re: Things That Annoy You
October 26, 2013, 06:00:01 PM
Quote from: jazmunda on October 26, 2013, 04:58:57 PM
In December I will be smoke free for a year. I still crave it all the time. I even have dreams where I break my now habit of not smoking and feel ashamed.

I quit cold turkey in 1980 and to this day I can't walk by someone who is smoking without feeling like I'm going to leave my feet and float after the trail of smoke, nose twitching, like some cartoon character smelling a steak. It doesn't stop, but fortunately being near heavy smokers and having to endure the unbelievable stale smoke stink that permeates their clothes, homes and car (and skin, for all I know) is more than sufficient to prevent me from even considering starting again. I can't imagine dating a smoker. - like licking an ashtray, as they say.

On the plus side, I'm still alive, and I'm certain I wouldn't be if I had continued to smoke.
#78
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Haiku for Noory-san
October 26, 2013, 03:19:29 PM
more right against left
Quick Karl and NowhereInTime
jesus fuck, shut up
#79
Random Topics / Re: Things That Annoy You
October 26, 2013, 03:14:39 PM
The fact that I still bother to read the threads in the Politics forum. Turns out Paper*Boy and Yorkshire Pud were the rational ones.
#80
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Dave Schrader
October 26, 2013, 05:19:06 AM
Quote from: Scully on October 26, 2013, 02:03:34 AM
This is the first time I've known of Shrader being on Coast, although someone on here (I think) said this was his second appearance.



Looking at the C2C website, it doesn't look like Schrader has hosted before, but he has been a guest three times.
#81
Quote from: Cynnie on October 24, 2013, 02:34:24 PM
The good old days of everyone agreeing with you?

No, no one has ever agreed with me much. The good old days when someone like Caruthers could start a thread that asked an important question and asked for serious replies and didn't get the kind of garbage you and your little friends in the Art Bell chat threads amuse one another with.

Take a look at Sardondi's post #14. He made essentially the same point you did, but he did so as an adult.
#82
Sorry for the stupidity, but where do I go to listen to this ?
#83
Apparently it's officially impossible to engage in an intelligent conversation about anything since coastgab became bellgab. Too bad. I miss the old days of, say, July.
#84
Even more likely, I think, that our current 'quantitative easing'-based fiscal policy will reach a tipping point and inflation will spiral out of control. I'm learning to can food and I'm loading as much ammunition as I can get components for, mainly for hunting but some for self-defense.

I'm not a pinhead and don't even own a Bible, but I think we all have some responsibilty to be aware of possible trouble and provide for ourselves and, if possible, others.
#85
Random Topics / Re: 2013 World Series
October 23, 2013, 04:30:34 PM
As a Tigers fan, I hope they both lose.
#86
Quote from: Lunger on October 23, 2013, 05:35:04 AM
Are 6th grade girls allowed to post on the internet?

There wouldn't be much of an Internet if they weren't.
#87
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
October 23, 2013, 05:46:35 AM
Quote from: Lunger on October 23, 2013, 05:23:22 AM
Ever try a Swiss Ball?

I suspect a Puerto Rican ball would have the same effect and would likely be cheaper.
#89
#90
Random Topics / Re: Celebrity Deaths
October 10, 2013, 04:46:56 PM
Mercury astronaut Scott Carpenter dead at 88. John Glenn is now the last remaining astronaut of the original Mercury Seven.

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