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Quote from: PB the Deplorable on May 30, 2017, 12:04:11 AM
So I'm wrong, the police aren't corrupt, the judges aren't corrupt, the politicians aren't corrupt.  All Duarte had to do was go arrest the Chinese drug gangs, and all the social problems they were causing would have gone away?  If that's the case, I'm wondering why he didn't start with that. 

I'm also wondering why the people of the Philippines voted for him for president if that's how he conducted himself when he was mayor, and they thought it was over the top unnecessary.

He started the extrajudicial killings at the beginning of his term. He didn't try anything else as president. He created a life and death witch hunt. No innocent people were killed, right? The continued killings hasn't made a dent in their social problems, only adds to them. His unilateral action incenses the corruption problems, increases the mistrust people have of officials, and increases Filipinos mistrust of each other. Living in fear someone might decree you or a loved-one as a drug dealer/user, to even a score, because they don't like you, or your political views, is certainly a very effective way to quiet down decent, or opponents alike. How healthy can that be for the psyche of society? 

I don't claim to know the minds of all the Philippine people, what they knew, believed, or liked about Rodrigo Duterte. Maybe he was the lesser of all the evils to pick from. Maybe they weren't voting FOR him, but voting AGAINST opposition, like most elections. Thats my best guess.

Duterte didn't take what you think should have been reasonable first action, so therefore he must be correct in his extreme action. Fuck law and order, take whatever action you want, because some officials are corrupt? The whole world has corrupt officials. Following your logic. All the world should throw out laws and justice, and burn it all down, as the strong man sees fit. That is your argument. P*BFacts&Logicâ,,¢

The lulz, this thread always delivers.

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on May 29, 2017, 11:10:22 PM
And frankly, this is just the sort of thing we are trying to prevent from happening here - a descent into Banana Republic status. 

But that's where we are heading with our borders open to Latin cartels, drug gangs, other criminals, and Islamic terrorists.  It's where we are headed with an increasingly brazen and violent Occupy/BLM/Antifa - rioting, blocking roads and bridges, and denying assess to speakers.  It's where we are heading in the attempt to overturn an election.  And it's where we are headed with the lawless judiciary openly joining forces with the Fake News Media and the ''Progressive'' Democrats and seizing powers for themselves. 

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on May 29, 2017, 11:03:24 PM
I don't know if you realize this, but the Philippines IS a banana republic.  They have not achieved the level we have as far as the rule of law, a level economic playing field, education, opportunity, and all the rest that goes with a modern western country. 

They had a drug epidemic, caused by the Chinese drug gangs.  It was creating death, violence, and poverty.  Options are limited when the police are corrupt, judges are corrupt, and politicians are corrupt.  They don't have The Rule of Law as we know it.  We Americans really need to get off our high horses, stop interfering in the internal affairs of other countries, and let them decide how best to handle their own problems.  If they want our input, they'll ask.

Most third world countries are in worse condition than The Philippines, and have worse leaders.  But we should single out The Philippines because they are our allies and we have a good relationship with them?  If the people of that country don't approve, they will vote for another oligarch next time around. 

I'm well aware of the Philippines. What they are, and are not. Just because you type something doesn't make it a fact. They have a Constitution, and Legal System, much like our own, some of which is drafted after the USAs. They ether function within the bounds of their laws, or not. It's that simple, no sliding scale due to affluence, or lack thereof. Assuming they shouldn't have basic human rights because they haven't achieved "the level we have" is bordering on myopia, or bigotry.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. These rights apply to all human-beings, without a sliding scale.

No Due Process denied Life and Liberty to thousands killed in the Philippines. Which is in direct opposition to the people of the Philippines laws. Spare the world your sanctimony.

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on May 29, 2017, 10:01:39 PM
So when Liberal ''Progressive'' judges go though contortions in order to uphold anything Obama does, no matter how blatantly unconstitutional it is, or how blatantly it exceeds his Constitutional authority, and later similar minded judges go through similar contortions in order to find an excuse to strike down laws they don't agree with but are otherwise Constitutional, or strike down the next president's policies, which are also Constitutional and well within his authority - to you that's The Rule Of Law? 

Guess what, it isn't.  Those phony judges are the ones undermining this country, not the people pointing it out.  Not only did Obama create an enormous amount of divisiveness in this country, the lawlessness of he and his supporters has done great damage to the general understanding of the basic roles and the limits to the powers of the branches of government.  Amazing the amount of destruction that can be done in just eight years.

Like I said, what we have now is the same situation they have in Iran.  The elected government goes through the motions of passing legislation and trying to govern the country, but there is a panel of religious fanatics that somehow have a veto over whichever parts they don't like.  For them the religious fanatics are Shite Muslim Ayatollahs, for us they are ''Progressive'' judges.  Are you really arguing that is how it is supposed to be?

Well if you know more about the law, constitution, and government than all the senate, congress, judges, and lawyers. You need to hurry up and tell all of them they are doing it wrong.

Make sure you shock and awe them, and the world with your "facts and logic." No doubt in my mind, they couldn't refute it's all a fake, fake, fake, Liberal ''Progressive" conspiracy theory. Bring 'em to their knees, bro. Go get em. Burn it all down. I don't fear the outcome, whatever it may be.



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Quote from: PB the Deplorable on May 29, 2017, 09:37:35 PM
Here's today's headline about what Duarte is dealing with in the southern part of his country.  What do you advocate, that he send police in to arrest them, and hope not too many judges and jury members are murdered during the trials? 

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/philippines-forces-make-gains-southern-city-siege-47698797

Anyone siding with the Democrats on anything has zero understanding of the Constitution, rule of law, separation of powers, or any of the rest of it.

The extrajudicial killings I refer to is his war on drugs. Hes urged the police and vigilantes to kill dealers and users alike. Hundreds if not thousands of men, women, and children have been killed in the streets. Without being arrested, charged, or convicted in a court of law. People claim he did the same when he was a Mayor. Such is Lawless, and out of bounds, where there is Rule of Law. Banana Republic tactics. 

At the moment he is within his bounds of power in Mindanao. I don't have a problem with it. However if their Supreme Court or Congress revokes his declaration of martial law, and he refuses. That is lawless and out of bounds. That I would have a problem with.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on May 29, 2017, 05:15:03 PM
The burden of proof is on you if you want to convince us that your propaganda is backed by facts and a logical argument but you guys never do. It's ALWAYS just this kind of bullshit where you hysterically call us names and refute our facts and arguments with mere hand waving. It's truly pathetic and speaks to the emptiness of your ideology. 

No, the burden of proof is always on the person making the claim. That means P*B needs to prove his bloviation is backed by facts and logical arguments, but he never does. He can't. Because what he drones on about endlessly never was, or will ever be. It's simply The Musings of Paper*Boy without a devoted thread. Get it?

Tipping your hat to a Banana Republic leaders extrajudicial killings, and other possible lawless actions. While more or less in the same breath preaching the unassailable virtues of the Constitution of The United States of America, just doesn't add up for me. The ends justifying the means, isn't Rule of Law or Due Process. The Constitution was set up in such a way as to prevent any single branch of government from making the USA another shithole banana republic.

Men and women died for what the Constitution stands for. Tipping your hat to Banana Republic leader over his lawless actions, because the ends justifies means. Somewhat degrades the men and women who served, and gave their lives protecting our Constitution and freedoms protected by said document. YMMV.   

If Rule of Law and Due Process isn't being followed... You and your bloviating keyboard commandos need to set all the congressmen, senators, lawyers, and judges straight about the jobs they do everyday. Doing such shouldn't be hard with all the facts and logic your team has on its side. However that would require leaving the keyboard, and doing real work. Instead of trying to score points, and virtue signal strangers on the internet.

I make no arguments for any single ideology. It's truly pathetic and speaks volumes to the simple empty mindedness that you try and attribute to me arguing a Ideology. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

Go ahead motherfuckers, burn it all down! I dare you! I can rise from the ashes stronger than before. This is what I was born for, and trained to do. Where I am in the world makes no difference. I can rapidly adapt and will survive. Truly the only thing I'm doing hysterically, is laughing at you and your precious ilk. <Giggles Bigly Emoji>

Damn, on and on about having beef... Go eat, beef is apparently what you crave.

Sorry you don't approve, but it is a forum. Don't like it don't read it. My bullshit is every bit as valid as P*BTheFakes bullshit. You simply align with his bullshit moar than mine.

He posts around dozen post a day, to my 7-10 post a week, most of which not addressing P*B. Poor ganged up and picked upon P*BTheFake. Maybe find a safe space on Faux Newz and AM radio. They say things you agree with, but then you wouldn't have any beef.

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Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 29, 2017, 01:34:20 PM
You two have to wait until Paperboy is gone to make your smart-ass comments.  You can't tackle his arguments head-on.  I don't hear him resort to name-calling and insults most of the time.

What arguments? You can't argue with fact free fiction, and flights of fantasy. Any facts brought to bear he decries as fake. Then he launches into spinning a narrative divorced from reality. Even when I agree with him, he almost always drives his ideology over a cliff. 

P*BTheFake is just some idle, angry, bitter, ideologue preaching his manifesto ad nauseam. How many years nao, 5,6,7? How impotent one must feel having hours a day to spend, for years on end, preaching his Neo-Libertarian religion to the unwashed masses. Even when #winning he is bitter. P*Bs world view in a nutshell: His version of Neo-Libertarianism can cure any and all things, including the common cold. At what point does it become snake oil?  :

All Ideologies are snake oil, especially when they reside inside a vacuum. Ideologies and Ideals aren't unassailable facts unto themselves. How many billions of people have to die over flawed human ideals taken to extreme? 

On a different subject. I haven't any idea who is here at any given moment. Nor did I realize forum members had to be here when I decide to post.

You don't really understand how textual forums work, do you? 
...Sigh

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on May 27, 2017, 09:06:19 PM
One thing about Duarte, he knows who the enemies of his country are and doesn't mind trying to defeat them.  The Chinese drug traffickers and dealers, the corrupt judges and police that keep them in business, and now the Moslem thug terrorist pukes. 

I wish some federal judge there were to tell him to stand down, I would love to see how that played out.

What P*Bs hero Duterte thinks about Rule of Law and Due Process...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXK9LWnO1cI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAW8ReZY1iU

Doesn't like outcome, or understand Rule of Law and Due Process. Spin TL;DR fits, furious stamping on keyboard, cry everything is fake.

Ah, to be six years old again...

          TRUMP FACTS AND LOGIC...

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on May 27, 2017, 09:06:19 PM
One thing about Duarte, he knows who the enemies of his country are and doesn't mind trying to defeat them.  The Chinese drug traffickers and dealers, the corrupt judges and police that keep them in business, and now the Moslem thug terrorist pukes. 

I wish some federal judge there were to tell him to stand down, I would love to see how that played out.

Quote from: Meatie Pie on May 28, 2017, 01:23:08 PM
P*B and his ilk lose some footing once they realize they're not more American than everyone else.

I'm glad I'm not the only one pinged off by this guy's rather severe anger issues.

P*B endlessly bloviates about The Founders and The Constitution, yet he despises Rule of Law, and Due Process. Which are cornerstones The Founders of The United States of America worked hard to create.

When diatribes spew admiration for strong arm tactics showing contempt for Rule of Law, and Due Process; a Brown Shirt emerges through his Neo-Libertarian facade. In this regard he is moar like the "Moslem thug terrorist pukes" than he seems to understand. Great 'Murican indeed...

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Republican deli owner nails it!

Lots of POTUS love for the Oil King to go around...

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You can add any OS to these also...

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Quote from: TigerLily on May 15, 2017, 10:47:33 PM
Who is that? Abba?

Theyz, The Golddiggers! 

     Meanwhile...

           Then and nao pic for mom

Welcome to my world.
A world where MiB mess with our memories, and Grays probe our anuses. 2:50 mark is where the MiB comes into all this...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6edQVowYLA

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 15, 2017, 05:15:00 PM
Okay, you got the prevarication and obfuscation out of the way. Now deal with getting your space pals on TV.

Why won't you?

You've forgotten, they've already been on TV. They were on the Dean Martin Show Feb. 25, 1971. I remember seeing it aired. MiB must have implanted the whole family with that memory. Maybe other aliens implanted the memory?

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Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 15, 2017, 04:30:32 PM
Never mind, no harm done eh?

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_trumpintel-0504pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.f70019a9a457

Apparently a present staffer immediately told the CIA and the NSA. The WP are deliberately being vague about the precise details as the info that the giddy Trump told the Russians is hyper sensitive. Trump will blame the leaker to the press (An annoyed spook being told he works in a nazi organisation?) certainly not the fact he should have kept his fat fucking mouth shut.

           In USA they LULZ at internet.

         In Russia internet LULZ at USA!

Happy Mothers Day...

Quote from: GravitySucks on May 13, 2017, 01:26:50 PM
Don't diss the Tasty Canadians.   ...

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 12, 2017, 10:51:00 PM
Then there's the tiny matter of possibly interfering with an ongoing investigation by asking Comey if he was being investigated. Then the tiny matter of admitting to sacking him because of the Russian investigation, and that he'd have done it anyway irrespective of the 'advice' given by AG and DAG. Then the even smaller matter of the senate intel cmttee asking the financial crimes unit (FenCen) for all financial dealings twixt Trump, his family and all associates past and present. The unit is submitting said docs.

Anyone mention money laundering and you're just bad. 

Welp... nao the alphabet soup agencies should seek out ALL of The Donaldz secret "tapes", not just the implied Comey tape. Matters of national security. See what turns up. ...??

See if "Russia" or "WeakLeaks" releases the Comey tapes.<winkwink nudgenudge emoji>

The Donald will say the "leaked tape" is proof he's being wiretapped, blaming it on Obama, Hellery, Russia, fake news, alternate facts, gassed Syrian babies. The Donald will then rapidly put his son-in-law on the case. <YeahYeah thats it emoji>

Like the Russians need to wiretap the WH.
<wink emoji>   

IN USA YOU LULZ AT INTERNET.  IN RUSSIA INTERNET LULZ AT USA!

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Quote from: Meister_000 on May 12, 2017, 07:18:12 AM
Oy!  for the Love of God -- HELP US be done with this Menacing LOON!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/863007411132649473

Wasn't "Tapes"  part of what got Tricky Dick into all that hot WaterGate?
Did The Donald imply he has secret tapes?

Did he Tweet "Hold my beer!" before he Tweeted "James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!" 

Please release the tapes, The Donald.
What could go wrong? 

Quote from: Zetaspeak on May 11, 2017, 09:16:31 AM
The most glaring  example had to be Monday during  Yates testimony . Where they criticized  her for daring to question the Prez orders. Yet two years back the wanted her to go on record  that she would say "no" to the Prez if she found orders were illegal  or unconstitutional.

That is one of those moments that shows how phoney  partisan  politics is

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on May 10, 2017, 11:53:33 PM
Special prediction line tonight...

Who's next to go?

Who will be the next to leave the White House/Trump administration? And for bonus points, by what means: fired, quit, or death?

I'll put my money on Sean Spicer. He looks as if he's seriously getting close to going over the edge, especially after literally hiding in the bushes from the press in his eerie deer-in-the-headlights appearance outside the WH in the dark. Evidently, his recent absence from WH briefings were due to "fulfilling his Naval Reserve duty", which he's no doubt thankful for. Still, he has that desperate look of a man searching for a more lengthy escape. I think he'll quit and use his family and Navy commitments as an excuse.