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Quote from: bateman on September 11, 2015, 10:14:56 PM
Friday 10-12 ET. Thanks, y'all.

Excellent. Fridays I'll have 7 hours of solid radio to listen to.

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on September 11, 2015, 10:09:30 PM
Really ? What's it called. Does it have a name ? What IS the instrument called lucifer ?
I heard that the telescope was named Lucifer years ago. I never verified it though.
Info please
Set me straight.

Lucifer is a spectrometer on Mt. Wilson which also hosts the Vatican observatory. They aren't related however. 

Quote from: SaucyRossy on September 11, 2015, 08:29:24 PM

Nice, I could have listened to that interview go on for hours. Definitely a good guest to have back. 

Quote from: expat on September 11, 2015, 02:57:28 PM
He's from a whole different, totally discredited, era.

That's my big beef with his narrative theories. The "technology" and "structures" he sees in the images derive directly from what 1950's science fiction writers envisioned an advanced society would look like. Atmospheric domes, android heads etc. Hoagland even made the case that the domes on the moon are made of glass which isn't even consistent with 1950's sci-fi, much less the state of 1950's engineering. You have to go back to Jules Verne for that one to fit.

Futurism and sci-fi moved on and Hoagland didn't keep up. As a result, his schtick sounds increasingly antiquated and out-of-touch. It's become self-discrediting.

Quote from: BellBoy on September 11, 2015, 01:29:17 PM
There is a rather substantial amount of unintentional hilarity in the listening too, you know... The only one who really buys into his bullshit is his crazy-assed stalker.

That's my view as well, the stalker is the only one that really buys it. Bara just rips it off to sell books and the rest of us either just chuckle and say "that's our Richard!" or go into fits of rage whenever the subject comes up. I go into fits of rage myself and am often reduced to a babbling heap hiding under the desk muttering "there are no domes" over and over after an arcology show. Gonna be a rough night for me, it's Pluto night. 

That said, Richard's a hell of an interviewer/conversationalist. When he's in Dick Cavett mode instead of RCH mode, the show is phenomenal.

Dammit Rossy, I vant my opera house.

Just kidding, great show tonight.

Quote from: Juan Cena on September 11, 2015, 02:52:35 AM
RCH wrote six operas.

I can see how that went. "I want my opera house!"

Just a reminder Rossy to book Werner Herzog if possible.

Richard published his first book when he was 14? That must have been a doozie.

See, we slip on the bad side here. ISIS is fucking beheading people Richard and Tim. If any of us went to Northern Syria right now and said what we're saying now, we'd get burnt alive in a cage. Let's not ignore the white elephant in the room here.

Quote from: VoteQuimby on September 11, 2015, 02:37:51 AM
I couldn't agree with you more but I don't want corporatism and socialism fucking because it's baby will be fascism which is what we're on the edge of now with our loss of privacy and encroachment of other rights.

Now that's certainly a concern.

Quote from: VoteQuimby on September 11, 2015, 02:32:03 AM
I have the choice of insurance companies or the choice to tell them all to go fuck themselves... well until Obamacare. But under socialism you have one system and you don't have a choice.

Not to mention I hate the economics of socialism.

Yeah, except they're in collusion and lobbying the political system. Why the differences between states as far as plans? No free trade among states regarding insurance? How the fuck did that happen? That's un-American and not capitalism. Somehow over the last 40 years we forgot what capitalism actually was and we went with corporatism.

Quote from: VoteQuimby on September 11, 2015, 02:25:24 AM
The problem with socialism is the little guy has to trust the big guy to handle his business and make his decisions for him. Fuck that. I don't trust anyone above me, why would I entrust my health care or important aspects of my life to these corrupt fucks that can't even balance the budget? That's retarded.

I'm sympathetic, but whether you're beholden to an insurance company like it used to be, or beholden to a subsidized insurance company like it is now, you're still trusting the big guy. Except the big guy now is not politically accountable. It's just an insurance company.

Quote from: Sandra Kristen on September 11, 2015, 02:23:02 AM
Bernie is a Social Democrat. Not really a hard Socialist.

Yeah, he's like a transplanted European center-left politician. I wouldn't like to call him a socialist, and I'm on the center right.

Quote from: coaster on September 11, 2015, 02:20:53 AM
We are so blindsided by the fact that Trump is honest, we forget that he is a clown. That really says something about politics. Surprised by honesty.

No shit. Honesty now surprises us.

Quote from: gabrielle on September 11, 2015, 02:17:57 AM
RCH is talking about Plato's cave.  cool.

Isn't that the truth. It's fun and really relevant.

"That's when the shit started to hit the fan."

Quote from: Juan Cena on September 11, 2015, 02:09:07 AM
This guy is starting to play the anti-Semetic card I'm afraid. Used the term "Zionist"

And now we move into the other side of the problem.

Quote from: gabrielle on September 11, 2015, 02:07:26 AM
Hi Everyone.  I finally joined up a few days ago.  I love the show and your posts.

Hi Gabs, enjoying the shows?

Quote from: norland2424 on September 11, 2015, 02:06:01 AM
i ment the Saudis already having a stock pile, and i do see iran getting a nuke in the next 10 years

Well, an unknown. The Saudis certainly have the money to secretly stockpile.

Quote from: ShayP on September 11, 2015, 02:04:44 AM
They have nukes already.  They can use ours. 

Perfectly legitimate point. Indeed.

Quote from: norland2424 on September 11, 2015, 02:02:34 AM
i honestly think they already have a hidden stock pile, same goes for israel

Israel for sure. Iran, perhaps, we just don't know. That's another problem with the deal, us public have no clue what the realities are in the intelligence community. We don't get to see the intel that Obama and the politicians all see.

Quote from: ShayP on September 11, 2015, 01:58:04 AM
Only words man.  ..all politics.  Our elections are coming up. Everyone's hair will be set on fire by rhetoric.  Of course this will be a hot button regarding the deal.  Iran has the second largest population of Jews in the middle east.  I worry less about Iran than I do Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

Well, that's politics and religion. Of course there is no basic reasoning to it, it's more about emotion. That's human politics in any country. I would be very worried about Saudi Arabia getting nukes, there is an undercurrent there as far as religion that scares me.

Quote from: SaucyRossy on September 11, 2015, 01:55:24 AM
Happy you are all enjoying him! I did a lot of searching to find him haha he hasn't done a ton of radio interviews.

Totally thought-provoking from point to point. And Hoag's doing a fine job.

Yes, but Iran screams at the top of its lungs a lot that it wants to destroy Israel and the US is the great Satan. I mean, probably not a good idea to ignore that, since, well, they keep publically screaming it even while the deal is being made.

Quote from: VoteQuimby on September 11, 2015, 01:39:54 AM
Dude, you're killing it. RCH has had a string of great guests.

Bump this. You never know what to expect. Could be anything. I love that.

Quote from: SaucyRossy on September 11, 2015, 01:25:06 AM
Pope Francis is trying VERY hard, the banking situation he's changed has improved the church positively dramatically.

Yeah, but how long do you think he'll last before a "heart attack" like John Paul I? I like the guy, but he's really pissing off the cardinals.

Ratzinger. Pope Benedict XVI. Had one hell of a resume to get that job. Member of the Hitler Youth, Grand Inquisitor of the Holy Roman Church . . . at least he liked beer.

LOL! Well, we now know the Braaps phone has a tape answering machine from 1988 attached.

*chuckle* whistling past your ass without the benefit of the tap. Definitely Irish.

Quote from: coaster on September 11, 2015, 01:09:06 AM
Hey folks.

Feeling alright?