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Do Internet banners count? I just noticed something called Cougar Life and it hasn't anything to do with animals or Washington State University.

Anyway, have you noticed Dynovite upping the ante lately? First , it made the dog smell better and itch less. Fair enough. But now it improves the dogs personality and even saved one from being euthanized. Fancy that.

Wells hosting tonight. Wonder what were in for?

Well, remember there were people who were planning drastic things, like killing their pets, for 2012. I don't know if that's was one of Jones' things or not. We don't get him in this market, and I'm glad. Actually I think one old girl who was a guest of George had been suggesting people put down pets and I believe it was discussed in these boards back when I still just lurked. I think there was a case of a 2012 believer in the news who had been making plans to put his pets down. He had been making inquiries at the veterinarian's about euthanasia drugs. Naturally those are controlled substances that no ethical provider would dole out for home use. If they did, there would be serious legal repercussions. They're kept in the safe with limited access, even among staff. I know because Ive worked in the business. I hope Jones a d these characters sleep well at night knowing that they may inflame people who may be not playing with a full deck in the first place.

I hope that somebody but me remembers this.  Year before last, when the Navy Seals died in the helicopter crash, either a caller or a guest posited a conspiracy theory that it related to a coverup concerning the death of Osama Bin Laden.  Ian didn't want to entertain it, and I respect him for it.  I agree that it's probably an outlandish conspiracy theory to connect the two.  Wanting questions answered about the crash, as Jason Chaffetz is now evidently doing, isn't the same thing. Anyway, this is one of the things I liked about Ian.
I was reminded of it last night listening to Michael Savage.  I had a feeling that they would get around to this. I know that this isn't the Savage thread, but the same conspiracy theory(that Bin Laden was actually dead years before 2011) came up.

I think it's real. I think that Savage and Levin(who worked in the Reagan administration, doncha know?)really hate each other. Levin is smart and knowledgable, but probably not made for talk radio. My nickname for him is Screaming Mimi.

"I didn't betray you, I merely put a stop to you."
This is from an acclaimed British film of the late 1960s.
"I have a lot of experience dealing with disgruntled people." This is from a well-known neo noir of the early 80s.
"Death is a natural thing--it comes to dogs, horses,men."
This is a Paul Newman classic based on a Larry McMurtry story.

Quote from: West of the Rockies on July 18, 2013, 04:34:49 PM
It's a pretty clear sign, I suspect, that Savage (a stage name, as well all know), is first and foremost about making money.  It's all an act (well, an act he may partially actually believe).  Conflict sells, baby... he knows some people will tune in just to hear him go off and somebody....

Of course, such content diminishes our collective political dialogue and polarizes the country still further, but, what the hell, as long as it makes a buck or two*... right?

(See Michelle Malkin @ Twitchy, Sean Hannity, Al Sharpton @ MSNBC, Alex Jones, et al).

Now, here's an interesting question:  if you knew you could clear a cool one million a year by spewing vitriolic nonsense, would you do it?

No.

3 that come to mind:
Soul Survivor by the Leiningers Can't really recommend this unless you are really into reincarnation. I understand that the case, of a little boy from Louisiana who was a World War II fighter pilot, has been successfully debunked. The kid would be a teenager now.
Pandemic by Gary Ridenour Pretty good but short. Interesting material on the Spanish flu epidemic.
World Made by Hand, The Long Emergency a d Too Much Magic by James Howard Kunstler. The first one is a dystopian novel, the other two are nonfiction explanations of the world depicted in the novel. Interesting, whether you agree with him or not.

Haven't heard it in a few months, but Gerber Collision and Glass. The jingle singer sounds like someone whose IQ is too low to pass the written part of a drivers' test. Like many of them, it was a little cute the first time or two, then I came to hate it.
As far as PSAs go, there was one that used to get played occasionally in which a sadistic mother made her daughter search all

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over the house for a purse she knew was on the first floor. The idea is to sneakily get kids to exercise more--by lying to them.

I think I had turned off the radio by then. But isn't it possible he just wasn't using the word "jettison" correctly? I only use it in relation to cargo. He wasn't functioning that well last night.

I didn't like the crack he made about the Bible being a comic book, frankly.

There is something more than usual wrong with him tonight, though. I can't believe some of these callers. Is it poor screening or just nobody better calling?

After doing a little research, I'm pretty sure it must have been the late Hulda Clark.

I really wanted this post to be in a different section, maybe the George Noory thread,  but obviously I'm still learning how to use Coastgab.

Thank you for asking this and answering it.

Listening to one of the new Carnivora commercials with George reminds me of a trend I've noticed lately with a lot of the alternative medicine people, especially those who have had legal troubles. Instead of claiming that the product cures this or that, the claim is that the body cures itself and the product facilitates that. It's more or less the same thing, but maybe not as far as the law is concerned. It remains to be seen if this actually keeps regulators off their back. Some of the local guys who do their own infomercials on weekends are pretty wild, and most of them have colorful pasts, too.

I worded that clumsily. The police were acquitted. People got mad.
BTW I don't have a stake in the rivalries between WA universities. The one I dropped out of was University of Montana.

West of the Rockies, you didn't go to school in Pullman, did you?
Actually it's important to remember that the verdict that sparked the Rodney King riots wasn't in a trial of King, but the police who were accused of using undue force on King when they stopped him.

Gary Ridenour.

Way back in 1996 or 1997, probably when Art was hosting, there was an old girl who claimed that hair spray and other cosmetics containing alcohol caused HIV/Aids. She claimed that the high incidence of it among gay men was because they used a lot of these products?! Anybody remember this?

Anybody talking about implants, having them, removing them, etc., mostly the ones placed either by aliens or the government.
A few years ago, and I'm sure many of you will remember it, an MD got though the screener and took George to task for encouraging callers with paranoid delusions.  He didn't say anything about guests, but I will say that George's choice of guests certainly exacerbates this sometimes.

George loves to brag that guests get cut short when they are too out-of-bounds, but I can't remember a time when I've heard this happen. Syliva Browne has been banned. But Alex Jones and Sean David Morton(before he was locked up) got off probation quickly.

I'd like to hear Dr. Stephen Barrett, of www.quackwatch.org.  Fat chance!

I like Mike Seigel OK, have met him at events in the Puget Sound.
I had forgotten about Vanna the cat. That's kind of sad, actually,  He probably doesn't have a real cat because he moves around so much.  He actually is like that character in the old Harry Chapin song or whatever about the DJ who bounces around.

By the way(and I have to be careful here) he lost one of his jobs by alleging on the air that a former Seattle mayor was injured(shot, actually) in a domestic dispute when this evidently was not true. (Only people at the Harborview ER know, and you know, medical privacy) Seigel had a lot of issues with this mayor and had been ragging on him about other things, such as the gang problem in the 90s in this city that powers that be would not acknowledge. There were also rumors that Seigel was one of those who went in a conservative direction to ride the wave of right-leaning radio in the early and mid-nineties. I tend not to make that accusation against anybody--people are entitled to change their views. Seigel was also pretty down-and -dirty in his criticism of the then police chief, but I don't remember those details too well.

Savage baffles me.  One of the reasons I joined this forum was to discuss him, though of course I'm also interested in discussing Coast to Coast and their hosts.  I'm a conservative, and listen to a lot of conservative talk radio.  But I like to think that I'm not a knee-jerk idealogue, and try to use my own brain once in a while. You may know that the most recent Savage firestorm(among conservatives) has been over his position on the Zimmerman-Martin trial.
I've been listening to Savage off and on for 8 or 9 years and one thing I've noticed increasingly is sloppy factchecking.  For example, a couple of months ago, he spent a lot of time on a documentary about a long-lost VietNam POW even though the guy had been exposed as a fraud some days before.  After the Woolwich machete terrorism incident, he repeatedly said that the assailants were dead.  They weren't. A few years ago after a story about e.coli infected produce, he repeatedly said that tomatoes were the offenders, though the story had been changed to something else, peppers, I think.  I could go on and on. My theory is that he treats his staff like crap, and they hate him and get him back by letting him go on the air with glaring errors. Kind of a Dilbert scenario.
I've noticed some of the same type of thing with George Noory, but nothing like with Savage.
Savage also seems to be relying increasingly on Alex Jones' websites.  Not good. And he hates on other hosts, then wonders why they wouldn't come to his defense when he was banned in the U.K., though a few did, of course. Apparently there's an unwritten taboo about knocking other hosts on air, and that's why most of them don't say anything about him, or if they do, don't mention him by name.  Savage, of course, doesn't care about this taboo.  Neither does Mark Levin.  They frequently launch on each other, and it's not just schtick, I don't think.
There are many problems with Savage and one of the biggest is lack of respect for listeners.  It reminds me of a cheap diner we used to go to when I was a kid.  It was a small town where for some reason decent restaurants couldn't make a go of it, and t he lettuce was brown and there was an I-don't care attitude, but like Dagwood Bumstead, we kept going for more punishment. This very evening, I will be tuning in at 9 Pacific time, maybe switching to Noory at 10. I need help.