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Quote from: TigerLily on May 17, 2018, 12:32:41 AM
Now Dyna-X. So fun

Brig's gonna have a great time w/ her coffee tomorrow morn.

Quote from: chefist on May 16, 2018, 11:42:07 PM
Grimreaper1979a - Today at 10:40 PM
@krowland You have been trying to steal the network from Art since he retired, after the shooting incident. And have been pissed off since he gave the show to Heather, and now that he isn't here, you figure you can do whatever you want. And you're wrong. And funny you mention "Script-kiddie games" what would you know about that Rowland? Maybe a Freudian slip?

MV-Host - Today at 10:43 PM
I have the contract
she did not sign a no compete

MV-Host - Today at 10:40 PM
now he has done it
I am filing charges tomorrow

Dammit I'm missing the whole side-drama lol.  Gonna have to go back and reread the last twenty pages of this thread again tomorrow.

Fantastic guest.  Great interview Dave. 

Quote from: chefist on May 16, 2018, 11:01:53 PM
John D - Today at 10:00 PM
TidePods I agree...It's like Art is coming inside from Heather...emanating...

That has to be like a reverse troll right?

Quote from: WOTR on May 16, 2018, 10:40:03 PM
I'm going to ask...

Why is Dave better now?  I listened to a few Coast shows and was underwhelmed.  Was it the guests?  Was it the producer?  Was he forced to read the 3X5's?  Perhaps he was not allowed to ask "challenging" questions out of fear he may alienate a guest?  I did not actively dislike him, but I certainly was not making my calendar for his appearances.

I don't know, I had the exact same feeling.  I thought it was because he was always doing haunting shows on C2C.  But then he pointed out to me his old show list and there's lots of different topics there so not sure how I missed those.  Who knows maybe it was the paranormal-date ads w/ GN that I was remembering lol.  Anyway I'm more interested in what he's doing on MITD, but I do have a feeling it might be hit and miss for me depending on the show.  Enjoying tonite though.

Quote from: Zenman on May 16, 2018, 10:38:17 PM
Thanks, Dave! You even pronounced my name right!   

Good shoutout Zen!  This isn't usually the kind of show I listen to, but really enjoying this interview - cool guest.

Quote from: wr250 on May 16, 2018, 07:25:53 PM
nice zoot suit zeebo. be sure and recruit squirrel girl to your cause.

Thanks bro, now you're talkin'.

Quote from: Kolchak on May 16, 2018, 06:09:09 PM
Only if you count his delusional shitposting.

I would just like to say that they're wasting their time and they're never going to get anywhere with this and they're not good enough and I vow to destroy them.

Quote from: malachi.martini on May 16, 2018, 02:38:04 PM
TED has long been pretentious garbage, soy feed for 'have all the answers but not really' numales and cultural marxists. Hancock exposed them, Sheldrake exposed them, and Hyde destroyed them famously.  Art covered all those topics, even had the patron saint of transhumanism on.

I can't really speak for the wide range on TED, but I do think cutting edge science and the possible cultural/economic implications of future tech trends is pretty interesting.  One of my favorite guests Art ever had on was Bart Kosko who discussed nanotech, fuzzy logic, cyronics, genetics.  Fascinating stuff imho.  And more plausible than another Mothman tale.

Quote from: GravitySucks on May 16, 2018, 09:55:31 AM
...Personally I would like to see guests selected more often from topics that are given as TED talks. Current research and cutting edge ideas. ...

This is a pretty good idea imho.  Perhaps in this sophisticated day and age we need a more reality-grounded fringe?  For instance I love topics like A.I., nanotech, cryonics, transhumanism, theoretical physics, new energy, space travel, genetic engineering, etc.  Maybe intersperse such topics from the scientific/social frontier with some of the paranormal classics.

Other good choices could be obscure history, unsolved mysteries, pop culture themes in books/movies, etc.  So in this case, fringe meaning reasonably-believable but under-covered topics.

Quote from: Sean92008 on May 16, 2018, 12:41:14 AM
Agreed.
Art toyed with many questionable guests...  Cat and mouse-like.

Can't do that nowadays, the world is a more sophisticated place...

Yes I remember when he'd say "I see" or "Uh-humm" in a kind of neutral way, which upheld the suspension of disbelief, while simultaneously validating the audience's doubts.  It was part of his gift of drawing out a story. 

But perhaps these days people are more skeptical, and want tougher interviews.  Maybe a backlash to the the flood of often questionable paranormal shows on radio/tv combined with the ease of cross-checking online.

Quote from: malachi.martini on May 16, 2018, 12:26:41 AM
Yeah, it's the cheapest exchange you can have with presented experience. Which might be my only real critique of Dave, sometimes he'll litigate the guest like he's a Redditor whoring for upvotes, sating the dull public mind with practiced reality. Art was the best at restraining that impulse for the sake of narrative and mystery.  Art's audience doesn't exist anymore, people's brains are different, which might also account for a big part of his success with these topics?

Maybe the naysayers are right, and this genre is withering on the vine, here in the internet-connected modern world.  Soon we will have chased away the bigfoots, ufo's, ghosts, and time travelers - we'll be left with hard science, true crime, history, economics, etc.   

Quote from: K_Dubb on May 16, 2018, 12:02:21 AM
Yeah, I am with you.  She's thought a lot more about this stuff than I have, so I'll listen.

Personally, I think focusing on believe/don't believe with stuff like this is shallow.  Belief is an ephemeral thing and only acquires substance when you act on it, and few people listening have the slightest idea how they'll act when the occasion arises, or if there's even a choice.  It's just information you take in.

I think it's good to push back a bit on meandering guests, but I do prefer a certain amount of latitude given we're often talking about fringe topics that can't necessarily be held to such scrutiny.  Some folks want the tough questions or even full-on debunk mode from an interviewer.  But I listen to this stuff because I'm interested in the speculation, the "what if's", sometimes I just like hearing the tales for the fun/curiosity of it.

I thought the NDE lady, although a bit undisciplined, was pretty interesting - some of her observations I'd never heard before.  I don't hold her to the same scientific standards that I would say a meteorologist or astrophysicist.  Likewise I enjoyed Adair when he was on - even if he's a total fraud he was still a kick to listen to if only for pure entertainment value. 

It's a fine line I guess and each interviewer has to pick where they're comfortable.  I like that Dave is articulate, intelligent, and well-informed.  But when it comes to his analytical side, I hope he errs on the side of encouraging an exploration of ideas and experiences.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on May 15, 2018, 03:49:13 PM
Is he the 'forensic IT technician" mentioned when the bandwidth couldn't cope last night?

He's still editing CSS files in Notepad on his trusty Windows Vista box.

Quote from: chefist on May 15, 2018, 02:54:02 PM
Ha...it really just uses the zest as an adjunct flavoring....more bitter to go with the hops. If you tried it in a blind taste test, you would not know it had citrus in it.

Aha, cozying right up to the line but not crossing it, I see.  We're ok then sir.

Quote from: HumanBeing on May 15, 2018, 01:49:32 PM

Jigging for cod and pulling up one of these Sculpins is creepy. To be part of a name of a beer, dear god 

No offense to Chefist, because he clearly has good culinary taste, but nothing flavored with grapefruit is a "beer".  Same goes for maple, raspberry, chocolate, chili pepper, hazelnut, cinnamon, or pumpkin.  Those may be tasty beverages.  But beer, my friends, tastes like beer.     

Quote from: ponyboysunset on May 15, 2018, 11:27:00 AM
... I didn't believe she had moved there. So I concede I was wrong. ...

Some sleuth here convinced me awhile back when those thunderstorms knocked her offline, and took a weather snapshot showing the only such activity was squarely over southern NV lol.  All of the secrecy was quite silly.

Quote from: TigerLily on May 15, 2018, 02:10:43 AM
Glad you made it through. This was really something that had to be experienced live

I caught both of HW's last two interviews, plus this show.  I feel that's achieving a kind of triple crown of cringing.

#NeverAgain
#TidePods

Quote from: WOTR on May 15, 2018, 01:57:02 AM
That was bloody painful.  I want to thank all of you masochists for the company and laughs tonight.

We should all get +10 secret bellgab points for that.

Quote from: paladin1991 on May 15, 2018, 01:55:03 AM
See.  It took a rodent to point out the obvious.

I'm here to help.     

Heather should be saving all those inside baseball exchanges w/ Art for her future book on how to talk radio.

Quote from: dsz on May 15, 2018, 01:48:44 AM
Radio goes from Ian Punnet to this in one day.

#Historic
#BlackMonday

LOL.  I Just had a vision of a good week.  Dave M-F, then Syrett on Sat, and Ian/Knapp on Sun.  I'm feeling pretty good about that.

Quote from: SpookyTim on May 15, 2018, 01:47:23 AM
There's one on hold but she won't go to him.

The fact that she brought Whit on for filler shows she wasn't serious about the big communal healing thing, at least not tonite.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 15, 2018, 01:44:40 AM
Seriously, this is boring the shit out of me. I'm only listening on the off-chance a Bellgabber calls up gets through.

I'm not bored, I'm darkly fascinated.  Help me.

Quote from: HappyMeal on May 15, 2018, 01:42:48 AM
I don’t know what I ever did to myself to make me feel I deserved to listen to this tonight.
#NeverAgain

It's pretty tough.  I'm hoping it counts as some kind atonement for past misdeeds.

Now kitty talk.  We knew it would come to this.   

Anyone else feel like we're hearing a private counseling session?  It's getting uncomfortable again.   

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on May 15, 2018, 01:19:45 AM
Jesus. Listening to Heater "take calls". Two, both sounding like they were set up, in almost an hour with her and Whitley doing their best to produce filler. Very sad.

But Whitley's usual smile-with-a-tear delivery is perfect for this drawn-out sentimental display.

Quote from: Sean92008 on May 15, 2018, 01:14:50 AM
Who claimed that ?

Posted somewhere earlier, some chat claims that bg is doing a DDOS attack lol.

Quote from: Sean92008 on May 15, 2018, 01:11:46 AM
... I'll make sure that Heather is properly paying the musicians, songwriters, publishers and labels for the use of their work in a for-profit program offering downloads of said material.

Thanks for doing your part to protect the law, sir!