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Quote from: onan on February 24, 2014, 04:45:07 AM
I really don't care whether anyone likes Baldwin or not. I really don't care if he did or didn't use a slur regarding homosexuals.


A few of you here wouldn't give a shit, if he didn't profess being liberal. And that is what gets your lather up. That is humorous in and of itself.

Exactly; If Baldwin had never given his politics, some would say he's just a fool, but agree with his sentiments re:The press. (An opinion shared by some on here who say they don't like Baldwin)

But because he's a self proclaimed liberal, well, they're good to go. He just has to say he's converting to Islam and then they can really let the spleens vent.

Quote from: BobGrau on February 24, 2014, 04:37:19 AM
I despise alec baldwin and barrack obama, simply for appearing in the same sentence as piers morgan.

Harsh  .

Clarkson is waiting in arrivals for his mate Piers.... Oh he'll be so bruised.

Quote from: onan on February 24, 2014, 04:30:56 AM
How about that Ted Nugent guy?

Shhh, he doesn't count. Or do you mean the one who threatened to invade the Whitehouse or some other delusional stuff?

Quote from: Paper*Boy on February 24, 2014, 04:20:52 AM

His problem with that is, too many of his tirades have been captured on video or been recorded.  There is nothing to be straightened out.

Whose business was that other than with his family? I'm not defending what he said, but what business is it of you or me?

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Let me ask you this - would you be quoting Charles Manson if he said something you agree with?  Why not?  How about Mel Gibson?  Of course not, he's not a Liberal in good standing and is correctly shunned for his very similar comments and out of control behavior. 

Jeeeze, you really can avoid answering a question can't you?

I asked if you agreed with the press and their practices and did you fundamentally agree with the passage I quoted..

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Everyone should pay close attention to the Alec Baldwin drama as it unfolds this week.  We will find out - again - that the Libs don't really give a hoot about the various causes they claim to support, except when it suits them for political reasons.  They will stand with Baldwin and the comments in this interview despite the long history of homophobia, misogyny, racism, the way he raged at his young daughter, the way he's treated lots of people.  A bit more than just a quick temper.

But he's a Liberal in good standing, smart enough to make the right comments when it counts, like with this "I'm leaving again" article, so all's well.  Let's find out who else will support him upcoming days and weeks.

Hmmm, a liberal with good standing: We have had homophobia/misogyny and racism on these very boards by right wing members (past-banned- and present) Yet not once have I seen you say anything against them, odd that.

It's funny isn't it? (I think it is anyway) The Glenn Becks, The Limbaugh's are all using their 'freedom of speech', yet somehow that same privilege is used against Baldwin-tell me, would you say he has those rights if he was a Republican?

Quote from: FightTheFuture on February 24, 2014, 04:13:00 AM

Google  Alex Baldwin angry outbursts. No shortage of material

And? He's human; Or do you prefer the asinine, compliant, saccharine with no personality? I have several close friends who have quick tempers, but it doesn't make them bad people. As I asked, do you believe everything you read in the press (That liberal left leaning press you hate) or just the bits that support the prejudices you already held? Yeah, that would be it. 

Quote from: Paper*Boy on February 24, 2014, 03:44:49 AM


You should choose the people you side with more wisely

Side? I don't know him to form any such alliances. You though presumably do, because you clearly wouldn't base your informed opinion on the media would you? The left wing/marxist/ liberal media that you don't trust...

Or would you say the following isn't the case?:

The problem he (and many others) have, is most of the public will believe any crap they read in gossip columns. No accountability, no recourse to getting the facts straightened.

The following I thought a sad indictment.

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Even the U.S., which is so preposterously judgmental now. The heart, the arteries of the country are now clogged with hate. The fuel of American political life is hatred. Who would ever dream that Obama would deserve to be treated the way he has been? The birth-certificate bullshit, which is just Obama’s version of Swiftboating.

And all for the electoral nullification that seems like a cancer on the American system. But this is Roger Ailes. And Fox. And Breitbart. And this is all about hate. It’s Hate Incorporated. But the liberals have taken the bait and run in the same directionâ€"and it’s just as corrosive. MSNBC, in its own way, is as full of shit, as redundant and as superfluous, as Fox.

I think America’s more fucked up now than it’s ever been. People are angry that in the game of musical chairs that is the U.S. economy, there are less seats at the table when the music stops. And at every recession, the music is stopping.

At which point did I say I was his friend? I'm sure I just implied I agreed with what he said. I sometimes agree with what you say, it doesn't mean I want your babies.

Quote from: Paper*Boy on February 24, 2014, 03:27:38 AM


Of course you did.


Poor Piers Morgan, poor Alec Baldwin, poor Barrack Obama - it's such a shame what those horrible horrible Americans have done to them.

Alec Baldwin is one of the biggest jerks to ever come out of Hollywood.  And that was true long before his gay bashing.

^^^ Prime example as to what he refers to. As for me, I haven't met the guy, have you? No. So you're basing your opinion on the very media you despise so much...

I thought it a very insightful article. The problem he (and many others) have, is most of the public will believe any crap they read in gossip columns. No accountability, no recourse to getting the facts straightened. The following I thought a sad indictment.

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Even the U.S., which is so preposterously judgmental now. The heart, the arteries of the country are now clogged with hate. The fuel of American political life is hatred. Who would ever dream that Obama would deserve to be treated the way he has been? The birth-certificate bullshit, which is just Obama’s version of Swiftboating.

And all for the electoral nullification that seems like a cancer on the American system. But this is Roger Ailes. And Fox. And Breitbart. And this is all about hate. It’s Hate Incorporated. But the liberals have taken the bait and run in the same directionâ€"and it’s just as corrosive. MSNBC, in its own way, is as full of shit, as redundant and as superfluous, as Fox.

I think America’s more fucked up now than it’s ever been. People are angry that in the game of musical chairs that is the U.S. economy, there are less seats at the table when the music stops. And at every recession, the music is stopping.

Just listened to the podcast. Another excellent show. Looking forward to the revelations with the alleged material evidence. I wasn't sure if that would tie in with the 701 that is pencilled in twelve-eighteen months hence or is that a separate project?

Quote from: West of the Rockies on February 23, 2014, 06:06:31 PM
Oh, how I would love to hear the announcement, "Justin Bieber, year of the city 2014, last day begins...."

You bad man... 

Quote from: Ben Shockley on February 23, 2014, 03:42:27 PM
How many Manly-Man Republicans  here have run combat patrols on the Korean DMZ?  I especially mean, more than wimpy-ass Obama-voting me..??

With that combination, doesn't that make you a liberal/commie/anksy something? Or even Marxist?

Quote from: bateman on February 23, 2014, 03:13:14 PM
Bump for visibility. Still taking questions.

Okay...

What are the variations in how sightings reported by military pilots throughout the world are received and dealt with? Which is the least/most dismissive airforce/navy?

Quote from: Seraphim27 on February 23, 2014, 03:15:02 PM
OK cool - thx!

Yeah, I'd say shellac. Has that 'put on with a stick' appearance you get with shellac. Dilutes with turpentine. Made from beetles--yes really.

Congrats to Canada. I attempted several years (A LOT) far too late to try and learn ice hockey and the training nearly killed me. Those that do it even at local team level are bloody hard athletes so to represent your country takes some superhuman stamina and athleticism.

Quote from: Paper*Boy on February 23, 2014, 06:43:03 AM

Yeah, it's because he's black.

Never mind the Marxist racist anti-American church he attended, or his 60s domestic terrorist BFF and his other associates, or his various illegal and unconstitutional dictatorial actions, his blind spot (to put it nicely) when it comes to Islamic terror, the arrogance and incompetence, his lack of understanding how the economy works, his misguided worldview...

Guilty by association? I see...

As for the blind spot. Really? That couldn't explain why the measures brought in by Dubya haven't been repealed. Such as taking shoes off, such as scanners, such as no liquids, such as air marshals, such as grunts with the personalities of the missing link with 'Homeland security' on their epaulettes.  Having a visa denied if you're a UK citizen going to the USA on vacation and been arrested in the UK for anything...Not charged, not convicted, arrested.. This means there is an assumption of guilt. Irrespective if the police got the wrong person, fitted someone up, mistaken identity, wrong place wrong time etc.. Yep, Obama capitulates that much even the shutting of Guantanamo hasn't happened (as promised).

Quote from: Paper*Boy on February 23, 2014, 06:52:15 AM
Oh come on.  We've all read the horror stories of socialized medicine as well.  There is rationing, denial of expensive procedures and medicine, long waits for some procedures, and all the rest.

And insurance companies don't deny services? Ever? Everyone who is signed up to health insurance never gets denied the care? Never got told that they'll be not having an expensive procedure treated because the claimant wasn't aware they had it?

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We don't want $10 a gallon gas and a national sales tax of 20% (VAT) and who knows what all else here to pay for it.  For 85% of the country (and higher than that if we aren't counting people here illegally who should go home) our system worked pretty well.

Only your system doesn't work for a great many. Including those who are not illegal residents. Your infant mortality is worse than Cuba's.

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The issue is why didn't Obama, Pelosi and the D's address the problems instead of trying to change the whole thing?  Even they knew to promise people they could keep their insurance and keep their doctors if they wanted, even when they knew it was a lie.

Private and public health can work alongside each other..There's a reason private hospitals in the UK don't have A&E.. No money in it.

Quote from: Paper*Boy on February 23, 2014, 05:42:34 AM

I admit to not being all that well versed in the business end of medical care.  So I can't answer you specifically.  I do know that the private sector does things more efficiently and at less cost.  I also know that people who put together studies using numbers have ample opportunity to lie, and often a willingness to do so.

I have £1000; I have a company (Health) that has share holders who won't invest unless I make sure that £1000 is used efficiently..Problem: The things I'd like to do I can't because I need more than £1000. I'd like to do A-Z...however, if I want to keep my shareholders sweet, I can only afford to do A-E, L-O, and T-W...

Efficient.. Shareholders happy. The letters that can't be covered can be paid for by those who can afford it, however if they have pre-conditions, (known or not), I'll either double their cost or simply say no..

I have a publically owned company (Health), and I have no shareholders other than the public who not only pay for it, but reap it's rewards irrespective of their wealth..I can provide A-Z to all.

As for the rest, you admit to not knowing, and speculate on a great deal of the rest, medical research is worldwide, particularly France, UK , and Germany.

If you want private, go ahead, no-one (least of all me) would deny you that, but because you go that path because you can afford it, don't play the arbiter of other people's health because they're not as wealthy.

Insurance companies do just that. They effectively 'play god'. They're not a charity, they're an assessor of risk to them.

Quote from: Paper*Boy on February 23, 2014, 05:08:26 AM
This is more about the Ukrainians wanting to their future to be with Europe rather than with Russia.  But not everyone in Ukraine agrees, the eastern portion of he country is more pro-Russian.

These are people with little experience with democracy.  Corrupt socialist government has been the norm.  The elite, the educated, the young, understand things better, but don't assume this is just another European country like, say, Belgium that are used to a free press, free elections, freedom of speech, etc.  Don't read more into this than is there.

Assume? I assume nothing. But they'll have Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Czech Rep/ Slovakia/ Hungary, Lithuania/ Romania to look to for inspiration I'm sure. And although you love it to be so...(I mean really love it to be so) The corrupt government isn't socialist, not by a long way. The ones overthrowing him could be seen as such though. In fact it's pretty much what they're currently demonstrating. An almost bloodless coup undertaken by the collective..

Quote from: astroguy on February 22, 2014, 04:47:00 PM

Chualar crop circle
Was claimed by many as "real."
Or, was it a stunt?

Episode 101, "The Chualar Barley Field Crop Circle and Reporting on it by Linda Moulton Howe" has been posted.

Another excellent podcast Stuart; Alarming that 25% of Americans think the Sun goes around the Earth though...

Quote from: RedMichael on February 23, 2014, 02:37:04 AM
The quality of callers is horrible too. It is so watered down now. We can all cite an exception or two but the whole tone of callers in general is different than it was a few years ago and vastly different from 10 years ago.

There's probably a good reason for that; The clever ones have long since stopped listening to the garbage. This leaves mainly the easily pleased, the easily convinced and the just plain stupid. Out of this pile, you get some able to form sentences using words of less than two syllables. Occasionally you might get one who can form coherent sentences, but it's rare. Throw in that a goodly amount are on hallucinogenics and you have your base of callers. Stupid, stoned, inarticulate...What could possibly go wrong? 

Quote from: DocHolliday on February 22, 2014, 10:10:15 PM
What's the deal with his CTM show?  I haven't seen any updates coming out from him with any news or shows at all.

Maybe he's winding down? It's hard work being an icon, ask Jazmunda.

Quote from: NowhereInTime on February 22, 2014, 05:03:52 PM
Paper*Boy?  Conflating?!? Perish the thought!!!

From an objective point of view, it does throw up a dilemma for the liberal/socialist/anyone who isn't them, haters. The fact that the Ukranian government were/are endemically corrupt being a factor as well as the desire to be untied from Russia has been rebelled against by a great many (not all) of the population. Those same people want to have Ukraine accepted into the EU, as soon as practical..It doesn't mean of course that they will be, because the existing member countries have to vote on it if they officially apply-which based on the usual glacier speed at which these things move, might be in the next ten years. EU equals big government REALLY big government, equals anathema to the right wing (And a great many  of the people in the UK, Denmark, Norway, France), FWIW, my own view is it was created by and for the benefit of France, and later Germany. France is essentially an agricultural country, and guess what? Farming subsides are a big feature of the EU...quelle surprise!

But I digress.. That the Ukrainian people would like Ukraine to be part of this edifice, suggests they're socialist does it not? And a country like Ukraine knows exactly what conflict is, having been invaded twice in the last seventy years. Look at the pictures and stories coming out; These are not power crazy armed to the teeth lunatics, they're ordinary people from all walks of life wanting to be rid of the Russian influence and the corruption within their own government, and lifted from crushing poverty whilst their Russian loving leaders live in opulence.

Much hand wringing later, the right wingers here will maybe go quiet on the subject because they might see that all this talk of how Obama is this Marxist/liberal/Ankskysky monster and how the people should rise up against him might make them see uncomfortable comparisons with what is now going on in Ukraine, and how close they identify with those goddam socialist citizens. Oh, and they did it without millions of rounds of ammunition and thousands having their firearm peeled from 'their cold dead hands'.

Quote from: jazmunda on February 23, 2014, 01:52:52 AM
Elephantitis of the nuts is not all it's cracked up to be.

Hey, quite the new kid on the balls, I mean block.

Quote from: eddie dean on February 23, 2014, 12:06:13 AM
I indeed require a wide angle lens, but for another reason.
Thanks for the compliment!

No-one likes a show off.

Quote from: onan on February 22, 2014, 04:04:04 PM
My soft alabaster skin can't be appreciated over the interwebs. Recent photos... 20 bucks a pop.

I came across this photo of you in your younger days... A bit pallid skinned, but I guess it's the sun screen. I think you were using a pumice stone on your feet..

Still no excuse for Jaz, Eddie and B_Dubb to escape the critical gaze of their wanton and desperate followers. Maybe.

Quote from: jazmunda on February 22, 2014, 03:36:54 PM
If male nudity is your thing then be our guest.

So you take it on yourselves to treat your devoted easy to please audience unworthy to gaze on such finely honed examples of femininity masculinity?


Haters.

Quote from: onan on February 22, 2014, 09:45:10 AM
I don't think Eddie Dean, B_Dubb, or Jazmunda will mind me speaking for them by saying thanks. We are glad it's fun for you, it is fun for us.

It would be more fun if we got the same live video streaming that you all share between yourselves.


Just sayin..

Without getting too technical, this is dynamic soaring.. Using $5000 radio control model gliders to achieve astonishingly high speeds...


www.youtube.com/watch?&v=rfoxjNg-eg0

Quote from: Paper*Boy on February 22, 2014, 01:52:25 PM

Wow, really?  When the Ukrainians started this it sounded like you were all for them.  Now it sounds like you'd send them off to battle without weapons, so they'd be 'safe'.

Hmmm; You're conflating that I supported their own self determination with civil war. I wanted more than anything for the Ukrainians to settle things peacefully. But they have long memories in Eastern Europe. WW2, and then afterwards the oppression from Stalin. They saw Putin as an extension of that former oppression, even if it was economically. They also wanted (as they see it) the 'family' of the EU. They at least want the opportunity to find out. Russia and the current government would stop that.

Quote from: wr250 on February 22, 2014, 12:58:27 PM
i wonder how the SCORPION ARMY feels about this. oh wait Art will be broadcasting in rt.com with larry king, must be the SCORPION ARMY likes putin .

Latest is that the ousted President has been refused to leave for Russia. The imprisoned ex President has been released from prison, and the MP's have promised new elections.