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Quote from: VoteQuimby on March 13, 2016, 12:43:38 PM

The "silence is consent" part is a bit odd considering that I thought the SWJ were up in arms about the plague of campus rape etc. Now they say if the victim is silent she consented?

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on March 13, 2016, 03:06:22 PM
Nice, send all the truck drivers to the unemployment line.

I'm all for better logistics and use of rail but we still need trucks for places not on major railheads and local transport. Would like to see less of them on some roads- though as traffic is bad enough as it is. If I were a trucker I would worry more about the allowing of cheap Mexican trucks and, worse, a future of 'driverless' trucks at some point. But it is insane to say no more trucking.

ps: pondering a conspiracy theory that all the supposed Bernie protesters, BLMs, etc attacking people or interrupting classes, political rallies, events are really backed by people like Soros and a way to gain Clinton support (both by labeling racist anyone they don't like or pushing back against them (Trump, police, business owners, etc)) but also make Bernie supporters look wild, insane, undisciplined and so, by extension, Bernie looks so, and any backlash against the agitators or rioters make the police, Trump supporters,etc look bad- so they would vote for the more "mature" "calm" candidate--->Billary.

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on March 13, 2016, 03:10:14 PM
I find it interesting that when given the opportunity to decry the violence in his wake, Trump chooses to talk about how he is going to "ruin people's lives".  Odd that you think it is CNN's fault.

What is more disturbing to me is that Trump thinks the BLM, Bernie supporters, and the usual other agitators etc have jobs or money from which he could take in a lawsuit! They are, pretty much, effectively judgement-proof likely.

Quote from: VtaGeezer on March 13, 2016, 12:08:45 PM
After the 2018 coup replaces President Donald Trump with a military triumvirate, historians will trace the fault line of American democracy's demise back to these two guys:

No, it started in 1965. You can thank Kennedy, Hart, and Celler.

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on March 13, 2016, 11:46:58 AM
I think you put a bit too much bourbon on your pancakes this morning.

Yeah, it never happened or happens! All these "rightwing" newspapers and sites, like HuffPost, just made it all up!
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/23/us/black-lives-matter-protests/
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2015/0115/Activists-shut-down-Boston-area-highway-Protests-too-reckless
http://www.notonemoredeportation.com/2013/12/16/dc/
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_29434179/immigrant-rights-protest-shuts-down-los-angeles-intersection
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-mall-of-america-black-lives-matter-protest-20151223-story.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/30/dc-highway-ferguson_n_6245076.html

Some deluded rednecks occupy some worthless, basically, rural desert land and Obama sends out armed Federal agents are sent out and a huge international story. His BLM, illegals, or "Occupy" movements occupy and shut down an airport, highways, roads, malls, or burn and loot cities? No Federal troops and he goes on media, and meets with, to apologize and explain BLM. MSP is an airport and under Federal DHS control but, since they are black, they are allowed to shut down? What would happen is some racist white group, or some Muslims, attacked an airport?

Quote from: Hautex on March 12, 2016, 02:46:56 PM
I'm only annoyed because the Polish celebration I grew up with, as did my parents and grandparents, is considered socially inappropriate almost everywhere but western New York. Dyngus day (or Dingus) is a tradition that is celebrated March 28th, with guys getting girls wet via whatever method works, water or cologne, then stroking their legs with pussy willows. Girls get the chance for revenge the next day by throwing dishes and crockery at the boys.... I know it sounds like a typical weekend at the trailer park, but it had an aura of springtime renewal and even included a parade.... and yes, plenty of alcohol. http://www.dyngusday.com/#!our-story/p95ly What bizarre local celebration did you grow up with?

That sounds fun. And interesting. Lots of like-types of festivals like that pre-Lent but I wasn't aware of after. A bizarre origin of a wet t-shirt contest or a 'show yer tits' so popular in other festivals that have gone mainstream or to cheap dvd? Kidding. I recall in Cologne etc there is a time during Carnival in which the girls can cut off the men's ties and are "in charge." There also was, as I recall various dressing up in Catholic parts of Holland. But all these were, before start of Lent- one last hurrah before the fast etc. I like your version to celebrate ending after Easter with more than church, an egg hunt, and supper. Sounds fun.

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on March 12, 2016, 06:58:11 PM
You know I think you're a good guy, but that's pretty rich coming from someone who sees the hand of "that character" behind most of our country's problems.  Cheers, man! 

Ha, thanks I think the same of you. I was being a bit facetious, with the "false flag" "inside job" comments, I thought folks would get. But, then again. But to me individuals matter; not racial, ethnic, or religious groups- but when one of any says "I'm the enemy" I won't say, no you are not once they attack. If I look at history, maybe selfishly, I will say for all the "bad" done I will take Western Civilization and even Christianity over the others. And I don't wish to offend anyone or ever use personal attacks. Sorry, if did so. But I do find this idea that some methods or conspiracy theorizing are only 'allowed' for some situations or, even, believed based intentional of presumed badness. But, depending on situation- or especially who, or what groups (since it is all about identity politics and race, thank you Obama, and decades of cultural revisionism, political correctness, etc,) the same type of tactics, or even conspiracy theory, are verboten? Not a few decades ago attacking, for example, black school kids forced into white schools- or worse bused into outside of district schools was vilified. Rightly so. And the Democrats who did it in the South, or in Boston, moved on. But now BLM types can shut down an airport? Illegals can shut down roads? "Activists" routinely shut down schools, political speeches, throw bottles, rocks, even shoot and burn and loot because BLM or illegals need more hand-outs? BLM- they even tend to kill more of each OTHER on a yearly basis than "evil white cops" or even KKK over history? Crazy! Illegals matter- but look at where they come from or how they treat each other to get over here! Yeah, the best of the best. Crazy!
Sorry, no offense, seriously because I enjoy your posts and never want to personalize things to stupid crap. But that is, in a way, my point, reducing everything to BLM, Illegals, etc ignores the individuals and makes everything Balkanized and tears down the country which, admittedly, was Obama's goal ('fundamental transformation'- you don't want to 'fundamentally transform' something that you have any loyalty or belief in.)

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on March 12, 2016, 05:42:19 PM
muh darkies are coming for our wimin folk

It is certainly true in Europe, not here yet (most rapes, as with murder, here as still within same race. The blacks have killed far more blacks than even the KKK ever did. Because BLM. Just in the past few years compared to all historical KKK lynchings! Compare Chicago's murder rate with towns even in slave days, which were horrible days. Slavery is still costing this country- morally and economically. Imagine if we never had black slavery. All the costs over the centuries, and now, saved.) Sweden, for example, if one looks at the rape statistics where formerly peaceful places, remember Sweden? That socialist paradise where even terrorists or anti-draft folks could flee? When you can find them. The police and media are now instructed not to publicize race, ethnic status, religion, or if an immigrant or on the dole in many cases. Sweden now contends with some 3rd world hell-holes on rape rates. (Although, yes, Sweden also does a better job reporting and like all stats the definition of rape varies across jurisdiction.)

Quote from: Value Of Pi on March 12, 2016, 05:34:23 PM
Yes, it occurred to me. I think your analysis is right on. The later incident when the Secret Service swarmed Trump at the podium to protect him, even if not at all staged, has a similar usefulness for his campaign. Also, the more he can associate the protesters with his Democrat rivals, the more effective this tactic could be.

Has anybody researched if any of Trump's holdings or investments benefited from 911, another "inside job?"

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on March 12, 2016, 05:15:28 PM
Has it occurred to anyone that what happened in Chicago last night was most likely a brilliant strategic move orchestrated by Trump and his campaign to deflect criticism of the treatment of protesters at his rallies and to give him the license to blame any future incidents at his events on “organized” opposition groups?

It seems very fishy that so many obvious protesters were admitted into the venue and allowed to sit together in large groups when entry to Trump events is usually tightly controlled.  The campaign had to know perfectly well that the protesters were going to be noisy and demonstrative and that supporters would respond in kind, which would then make safety concerns a valid excuse to cancel.  The whole set up looks like it was meticulously planned to make Trump look like the victim and give him the opportunity to feign shock and outrage that he was denied his right to speak by dangerous troublemakers. I don’t believe his cancellation was an act of cowardice, as some have suggested, because I doubt he had any intention of appearing at all. The whole situation seems just a little too convenient coming at the exact time he’s been taking a lot of heat for inciting and condoning violence against protesters not to have been staged.   

While there was shouting, shoving, and a few punches after the cancellation was announced, what happened last night in no way resembled a riot. The police were well prepared and appeared to have had control of the situation from the start.  They kept the two groups separated, and it looked like most people left the area within an hour. Some protesters as well as Trump supporters undeniably acted like idiots, but not to the point where it looked like things would get seriously out of hand. However, there were enough scenes of minor conflict to allow the Trump campaign to play the voice of reason and give the impression that they had prevented a potentially much more violent situation.  I have never liked the guy, but I will always give credit where it is due and I think his campaign pulled off a masterful stunt last night.  It’s fortunate nobody got seriously hurt.   

It could be, everything is an "inside job" or "false flag," now excuse me I've got to relisten to Alex Jones's view of the situation.

Actually I was surprised that the SS officers were so good considering all the recent booze and hooker scandals, break-ins, drive-by shootings, drone landings, etc. It would seem for the WH's current occupant, this character Obama, the SS isn't doing as good a job. You know you are in trouble when your Praetorian Guard turns on you, even if by just disillusionment or deciding to have a few pops with some hookers. This Friday they did ok, shut down our schools, roads, and airport so that "The One" could raise some money and no people, even in the primarily all-white, rich neighborhood he came to get money, attacked him, protested, interrupted his dinner or any of the other BLM, Leftist, Bernie types do.

Quote from: Zetaspeak on March 12, 2016, 01:03:33 PM
I have no sympathy for Trump vs the protesters, when it happened to Bernie Trump went on twitter and mocked him saying "If he can't defend his mic how can he defend the nation". Now the shoe on the other foot and it's all "poor Trump" from him and his supporters. Well I will just reply the same, if the nation is under attack will Trump run and hide  like he did yesterday. Two could play that game. He and his supporters always have double standard, or better yet no standards.

Speaking of standards, of all the crazy stuff surrounding Trump. I don't think I have ever seen anyone lie so pathologically and compulsively as Trump. Look I am not that naïve, people lie. But most people lie under 3 circumstances. 1) Put on the spot, Somebody ask you a gotcha question and you make something up on the spot. 2) The truth is so bad, that you figure you have no other option but lie. 3) Something that's really difficult to confirm.

But to lie about Steaks, magazines and water? Again it's not like he was put on the spot, he waited a few days and did this whole dog an pony show by showing fake items like generic water with his sticker on it, a glorified pamphlet for his hotel, and steaks that might be steaks sold at Trump hotel but it's not "his brand". For all the things to lie about, why this, especially it's so easy to confirm it is a lie? He could have easily of said "I been in business a long time, nobody has a 1.000 batting average, you win some,  you lose some. But I like to take chances and I win much more than a lose" Would anybody think badly over a reply like that, instead of doing this fake informercial and coming off as a total charlatan.

Of course the saddest thing is his supporters will not blink an eye, the most creepiest thing he said was that he can shot somebody and his voters will still vote for him. That's a comment says it all, that there no standard he needs to go by, his supports will like him anyway. Which makes me wonder, if he's willing to lie over something so meaningless like steaks, water and magazines. Why do his supporters think he's telling the truth about anything else. It remind me of somebody who's marrying someone with a bad reputation and multiple divorces then somehow is shocked when they get cheated on? You somehow don't see a pattern?

Yeah but who else? Anybody but Billary and if even 50% of what Trump is saying he believes in or will do it is better off that with Obama and others of his ilk. At least Trump is somewhat strong on the border, a little too soft in my opinion but compared to the others. I will sort of be surprised if he makes it to an election: populists, progressives, pro-Americans, socialists, and/or brash personalities, or any one not in the Parties's pocket, often find themselves taken out, in some way, sometimes violent sometimes by a scandal or sheer weight of media and Party spending. By a crazy, by the establishment, by the media.

Quote from: VtaGeezer on March 12, 2016, 12:52:59 PM
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Glenn Beck is likely crying over this incident- even though he hates Trump.

Quote from: Uncle Duke on March 12, 2016, 12:10:21 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-35793980

Probably better for crew to have drown than go home sans sub.  NK leadership not known for understanding in situations like this.

Yah, although dying on a sunk sub seem a bad nightmare NK leadership does far worse for those that 'disappoint' Dear Leader. According to other articles it is a Project 633 diesel (aka "Romeo Class" NATO-wise) built in China in the early/mid 70's- or build from Chinese parts between 76-1995. They lost one in 1985. I hope Dear Leader doesn't accuse us, or an ally, and do something stupid.

Quote from: FightTheFuture on March 12, 2016, 10:07:37 AM
Now we learn the Clown is a stalker. What`s next, a couple of dead hookers in his trunk?

Fuck, yeah! Trump!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/01/31/british-news-anchor-claims-donald-trump-stalked-her-after-unflattering-documentary/

Ha, a "Daily Mail" reference! Nice. Supported Oswald Mosley, British Union of Fascists, and benign towards Hitler's Czech adventure; and you complain about "salutes!"

Quote from: FightTheFuture on March 12, 2016, 08:29:53 AM




https://twitter.com/mawilner/status/708503962085888004

Maybe? Of course the "Roman" salute has nothing to do with racism, sexism, etc historically except for a small short period of time in history. But, yeah, not a good idea for folks to use. It still is used when taking office or assuming a commission and in parade in many South American countries and Mexico and was the preferred, instructed way for children to salute the flag during the pledge of allegiance until Mussolini popularized it and then a certain Austrian made it worse symbolically. Doesn't stop many countries from still using though, including those where precious illegals come from. (You probably don't even know about the Christian minister, who was a socialist by the way, who wrote the Pledge and the "Bellamy" salute.) Here is another demented woman using it. (Note the Islamic moon symbol behind her even.  )

Anybody, even a laying-on-of-hands lawyer, or a "white horse prophecy" Billionaire if Romney decided to come in- than Billary in my opinion. Though if my guy instincts aren't true and Trump isn't a Clinton stalking-horse and believes in what he says I'm going for him- even if he is weak on immigration.

Signal dropped. No feed. Good night. And I was just liking the new conspiracy that Romney and the elites were behind Trump, even better than my stalking-horse for Billary initial thought about him.

Quote from: bateman on March 12, 2016, 02:56:52 AM
THANK YOU, EXACTLY, IT'S HARD ENOUGH AS IT IS

We all give you shit but like with friends and brothers, the people you give shit too are the ones you love. More shows now, dammit!

Quote from: Faustina on March 12, 2016, 02:51:45 AM
The caller made an interesting all too brief point about Trump's physical safety.  I've wondered if he might be "taken out," a la JFK.

Yeah, nobody can't think that when it gets so late and listening to RCH etc. Especially since Obama was here today and there was so much disruption with normal things (traffic, schools, airport, etc) but Trump just wanted to talk and they sent the minions and activists to attack. I still think it could be a Clinton trick vis-a-vis Trump but hope not.

Quote from: bateman on March 12, 2016, 02:48:55 AM
My sleep was RUINED for a good couple of months thanks to Uncle Hoagie - up until 5am almost every night. I should really be on the west coast.

I don't see how you could handle with a regular job and producing a frequent show. Kidding.
ps: Hoagie idea that popular support doesn't mean corruption or violence and real change! Ha, Jacobins come to mind! Or others.

Yeah Trump like the Clintons, by the 'jooze,' via the pedofile tapes?  Where are the Epstein tapes? Though really where and who? Sort of weird. Like the BBC, Bush/Franklin years, Catholic Church, etc stuff....?

Woah, jewish firsters?

Ha, the mob and flashmobs, like Trump uses them! Like that old guy who knocked out the protester, and was arrested as he should be, was called to do so by Trump or some agitating campaign? Like in some kind of reverse "knock-out game?"  It was wrong. And wasn't Trumped controlled. And Trump could be an act, I've had suspicions about him and Billary for many years. Now RCH on Carson is funny. Two Trumps. Like politicians, or dare-say, radio hosts, or even people don't sometimes? Ha. I think get on board, like Carson! Trump/RCH. Hair Party!19.5 for Social Security might flip him?

Again he is talking homogeneity as a good for a nation? I thought he didn't like that? I think most people are tired out from hearing Art back. I might be out. I'm not sure where this is going because it seems all over the place. But like it, in a weird way.

Czars kept down the Jews. Not saying it is right, but that is what he did. So?

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on March 12, 2016, 02:20:43 AM
     Yes, that would be funny.

It would've been more interesting than "Big Short." And likely more audience. People don't give a shit about S&L, BCCI, LIBOR, Front-running, etc etc etc or the collateralize debt obligations and bailouts- but if it would be spun like some grandma got booked a ticket on CONSPIRA-cruise and might: get bilked, steal inheritance, die, or get encouraged to change will? You have a modern Christie-esque novel and a good movie.

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on March 12, 2016, 02:16:23 AM
http://violentmetaphors.com/2016/01/26/a-skeptic-on-the-conspira-sea-cruise-day-1/

Yeah, that stuff was hilarious. I don't know why someone hasn't made into a movie but, I guess, it is such a marginalized group, it wouldn't be funny. But? Maybe at least a local news scoop?

They Live.
but why RCH would talking or having a rally mean you should be attacked or disrupted?  Eisenhower "plan" on illegals, RCH. Recall that name? 

Quote from: GravitySucks on March 12, 2016, 02:10:29 AM
Yes

Was it tScallion? Conspira-Sea cruise deal where they were just arrested?

Spence is fun. And found away to have a job in a cool place. And commenting on places where one doesn't have to 'deal' with 'youths.'