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 For the record,
Yes it was me in the chat room. I spent most of the time trying to prove it
was me. At any rate it was.

                                                                    Art

 Hi all here is a update,

Here is the way I see things: Starting in late July Dark Matter makes a return five nights a Week
from 9PM-12AM P.T. on DMRN. The Stream will be at a higher bit rate and FREE to all.

As I mentioned a Producer is needed and it looks like we have found a really good one, Paul will
also be able to assist.

I will be depending on all of YOU as well as my FB followers to spread the word far and wide on
Social Media. A blitz if you will, BUT not yet, it's still too early, but I will give you all the word, we don't
need magazine's and we sure do not need AM radio to spread the word, Social media has far more
power, I have seen what YOU can do.

We will start building the Studio in March or so and as I have mentioned I will absorb the cost
myself. This will be a labor of love because I do dearly love Talk Radio. There will only be enough content
from anything else to give myself a short break every hour, or put another way, almost no commercials.

There are other very exciting aspects of what this show will have, but again it is simply too early to give
away what is coming. Trust me it is exciting.

                                                                                          Art Bell

 Hi again,

It's been a long time since I have posted. First I did not miss any shows for Sirius/XM save for one when the studio in New York went down, none missed for my back or the spider bite.

Second, I do still have the Flu and have had a bad back since I was in my 20s, sometimes it is ok and at other times I can not walk. Only people with bad backs can possibly understand.

Third, IF I decide to take a run a streaming it will be free while live as I have always said, this would be in July
after my Non-Compete is over. It would also be at my own expense and require a considerable investment. It will
also require a Producer which may be a problem because Paul may not be available, no Producer would mean no show.

Fourth, I have zero regrets about having left Sirius/XM and were I faced today with the same situation now, would make the same decision. The ONLY thing I would have done is to not have signed a contract with them in the first place without understanding their streaming problems, it was represented to me that they had a viable National and International stream in place, that is on me.

Fifth, If anything aside from my Health would hold me back it would be the people who as I have read on this board are already starting to say I will quit again, if I decide to give this a try at my age there is no guarantee
my Health will hold out and if it does not it might be wiser to not begin as opposed to facing all the grief I would get if at some point I could not hold up.

These are the things I am considering...

                                                                                                          Art Bell

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As I have posted on Facebook and as I promised on this Forum, as soon as I am released from the
Sirius/XM NC I will begin streaming my own show. The article so well written about JBW only confirms
what I have felt for YEARS.

I might have better luck asking Julie for a release of my NC.......I say this because while I was trying
to talk to Sirius/XM two days after I left, I simply could not understand why they were not responding
to my offer to return if they would only allow streaming until Sirius fixed their problems, when I finally did
get a response it was to inform me that Coast would be taking my spot on channel 104.

It is my feeling that "they" want me kept off the air, ho hum, I will fool them by staying healthy and kicking
their ass as soon as I can get free.

                                                                                                               Art

 As I have posted on Facebook and as I promised on this Forum, as soon as I am released from the
Sirius/XM NC I will begin streaming my own show. The article so well written about JBW only confirms
what I have felt for YEARS.

I might have better luck asking Julie for a release of my NC.......I say this because while I was trying
to talk to Sirius/XM two days after I left, I simply could not understand why they were not responding
to my offer to return if they would only allow streaming until Sirius fixed their problems, when I finally did
get a response it was to inform me that Coast would be taking my spot on channel 104.

It is my feeling that "they" want me kept off the air, ho hum, I will fool them by staying healthy and kicking
their ass as soon as I can get free.

                                                                                                               Art

Mr. Poop is just trying to distract you, he might even be a reincarnation of DP.
My advice is carry on. Remember a Troll is born every second in America.

                                                                            Art

 Ha,

Small steps. It is filling up so fast that by the time I can go on there will be no space for me!
I love it, good ideas have a way of building pretty fast. As I keep saying, just wait and see, I bet the next
great Paranormal Broadcaster will be born there.

                                                                                                      Art

 The idea is simple, Keith is doing the heavy lifting. Simply provide a place where people who
want to do a Paranormal show can do it for free and it can be heard for free. A way to keep the
Web Site alive and provide a service for both Hosts who want to give it a try and a place where
the listener can encounter new ideas

If and when the time comes that I can go back on air, I will do so there. I hope it grows like crazy,
like most things it is just a idea, we shall see where it goes. Much as I love it, I am not the only game
in town and even if I can not stream there now, it can be a starting place for the next great Broadcaster.
Feel free to give it a shot. We live in a time where just a few companys control everything.

                                                                                                                       Art                                                                     

 No worries, I am still here. I am here because for the most part I enjoy the people
on this forum. Even though it gets rough at times there are a lot of very smart, very
funny people here.

I have a hope that given some time it may well be that Sirius/XM will decide to drop
my NC, they may be just hurt/angry. They really have no real fear of competition that
I can see. I am almost sure if I press the matter legally I have a really good case, but
as I mentioned it should be considered long and hard before started. I have been in
legal fights before and it is rough in every way you can imagine, even when you win.

I do believe in freedom of speech, as you all know it is not absolute. For example
there is a part of the Internet that has absolute freedom but most members here
very wisely decided not to go there, right? I think MV maintains just the right amount
of control, very loose but short of anarchy.

                                                                                     Art

 It's ok, trust me I can take care of myself. I have dealt with wack jobs like that
for Years.

                                                                             Art

 Ok,

I am done with Dark Dipshit. He has proven he is not here to talk about my Radio work or
anything like it. After making that remark about my Wife I am done talking with or about him,
unless he wants a face to face meeting.

                                                                                            Art

 Actually the reason I left was that I was told by Sirius that the problem with streaming
could not be fixed until August at best. The reason was so I COULD reach my listeners
with streaming until the problem was fixed. When the final answer was no, that is
when I left, even then I tried very hard to work something out.

Anyway it is what it is now. I will do my best to stream at the first opportunity. BTW
I posted that letter so you could understand the options being talked about. I am
sorry it did not work out but it was not from a lack of trying.

I know you all are right about Trolls, that guy finally got under my skin. I am done.

                                                                                              Art

 Well I tried to respond to your post with real points in a civil manner. I have been
following you Dark Dipshit since you slimed aboard, always the same thing.

Like I said stick I stand by every word about Davie, thats the reason I took the
offer from Sirius, because he is a insult to the whole Paranormal World. Perhaps
you caught my comment that if the other George was Host I would never have
considered starting Dark Matter.

And yes he shows up most every day with protracted regulary schedualed painful
insults to any IQ 20 points or so above yours. I do however understand your
attraction.

                                                                           Art

  Bring it on dark dip shit, your nothing but a Troll full of hot air who
keeps repeating the same warmed over crap again and again.
Really scary shit.

                                                                Art

Quote from: DarKPenguiN on November 23, 2013, 08:54:54 PM
Art, the first thing you said was that you would honor the NC.

Next you said you "WOULD HAVE THIS FIGHT" and have sought Legal Advice

Next you stopped the #FreeART campaign because it was "making things worse" (worse as opposed to WHAT? You NOT being released and not being on the Air? How could/did this "make things worse" when you are not on the Air and STILL in an NC?)

Next you reprinted the letter you sent to Sirus complete with jabs at george Noory.

Now, you evidently had no intention of "HAVING this fight" because you DIDNT fight. You stopped a campaign, spoke with an Attorney via email and evidently continued to negotiate yourself with some un-named manager at Sirius. Was this the fight ?

I am confused. Because we have went full circle and the only "Fight" I saw was you stopping free Art and you personally contacting Sirius and whining about Noory "Have you LISTENED to that show? I bet Millions never signed up to Sirius to hear that guy? I have MILLIONS of fans but they wont pay unless streaming works. I will NEVER share the Air with C2C"

Was that the fight? or was this all "lip service" as many have claimed since the start. because it looks like lip service and I took Ed Dames remote viewing home class and I WILL get to the bottom of this. =P

Listen Dark Dipshit,

I said I would honor the NC and I will until I can either get it released or it expires or I do. I
did ask everybody to stop because we were in the middle of negotiations.

Yes, I did jab at Dave, I stand by every word.

Yes I did speak with a Lawyer from this group and he is a good one. My guess is you have never
been in a extended legal fight or you would know it is something to think very hard about before
starting. I have not said I will not do it nor have I yet decided to proceed.

When I first saw you on here you seemed Troll like, time has underscored that view

                                                                                                Art

 Hi again,

Well I read through the letter I posted and just can not find where I laid blame
on anybody. I did list the options we had talked about. I did comment about the
choice of Coast after I had left, I did comment on what I thought about Coast but
where did I point blame?

I will also say this, given the same circumstances I would make the same decision
again, that does not mean I am happy about the outcome, I am not. Anybody who
thinks I started that show just to quit is loony. I put money, sweat and a hell of a
lot of time into it.

At this point it is done, if I can find a way around the NC I will start streaming as
soon as possible, if not I will start the streaming after the NC is over. I did offer
to buy the studio gear so they would not have to come and remove it but they
declined.

When I do begin streaming it will be only me, no large company. If I made any
mistake that was it. I should have simply started streaming myself, for that I
do blame myself.

                                                                                       Art

 Hi there everybody. Well it is a sad day for me indeed. I got a call from the Manager I have been working
with since the start of all this and the answer was NO. The further answer was they do intend to hold me
to a NC. This Manager is a good guy and what decisions that were made, were made above his head.

I did contact a Lawyer who I will not identify unless he wants to be known but I can proudly tell you he is
one of you! He was willing to proceed and felt we had a good chance to win BUT it is expensive and as any
of you know who have ever gone down that road know, it takes a long time. So if my health holds I will see
you in less than two Years.

Below is a copy of my last email to Sirius/XM minus the name of the Manager to who it was sent:

First, you may recall I said to you that I thought you would not get much of a bump from putting Coast on, was I right?
Have you actually listened to that show? Have you REALLY listened? You put him on 104 which was I guess a nice way
to get back at me, but that guy is a joke. How many people rushed to put any money down to listen to Coast on 104? I
bet nobody, all this plus they are doing what I asked for and more!

1. I said what I would like is to be back on but wanted to stream for free, but leave the value added stuff to Sirius/XM
   you said no. As it stands now I presume the streaming still does not work properly and will not, till at best August or
   so. You said this was a good idea for me but not Sirius. I disagree, if we develop millions of listener's, in what World
   is that bad for Sirius in any way? If you can charge BIG bucks per commercial minute.....Broadcasting 101, it's a good thing.

2. We talked about one day with streaming, I asked about other days, you said we could talk about that, we never did.

3. As it stands now people MUST pay about $180.00 a Year if they want to hear Art Bell, why not allow listeners the option of JUST
    streaming my show for a lesser fee? It could be pro rated, IF it just worked properly.

4. I said I would be willing to buy the Studio gear for whatever you paid if I could be released from my Non Compete, I have not yet
    heard a answer to that one, though you did once say you would not let me go, you sent me a reply saying you would consider it.

5. I can wait out the remaining time, then stream, which it looks like I will be doing at 70 Years of age.

I just for the life of me can not see why everything with Sirius/XM has to be lumped together in a Business model that works for non
  commercial music just fine, but lumps Talk Radio in with it. I understand why it works for Howard, he had little choice unless he
  wanted to keep paying fines. I don't know about Dr. Laura.

Two things I can tell you about me, every time I crack the mike I put 110% into it, it takes a lot of work and I am willing to give my time
and energy happily but not if I have no way to grow the audience. I have millions of people waiting for a way to hear me and they would pay
something to do so, but asking them to become subs for $180.00 bucks a Year with a service that does not work well will not get them there.

The other thing is Coast, I will not share time with them. I thought hard about that, and there is no way I would rejoin under any conditions
while you carry them. The reason I came back on is because that show is a insult to the entire field, not to mention at least 45% of it is
commercial or breaks of some sort while the rest is just plain bad Radio.

I truly enjoyed working with you and everybody else at Sirius/XM and wish there was a way to work this out. I understand you think the way
forward is exclusive content and perhaps you are right but in my opinion the World will pass you very shortly while trying to hold on to this
model. It really already is. Nobody tried to stop all the Pirates, every one of my shows was and is available for download the next day, great
for the guy who doesn't want to pay but not so great for the Talk Host who wants the live calls, how does this make sense???

                                                                                                                                              Art

So, there it is. From the bottom of my heart I want to thank all of you for so much support. I wish it had worked out
in some way but there were forces at work that I never thought about, I am just a talking head........

 You all will never know how much I feel for you for what you are doing in trying to support me
but I am going to ask you to stop. This will only make matters worse.

Here is the bottom line, this is a job I took only because of my love of Radio, not for the money,
heck 75K is not ever going to make me rich and if Sirius does not want me they sure will not take
me because their Web Site is messed up, it will most likely just piss them off. That does not change
the love I fell for all of you for trying.

I still feel I was right in my decision to halt what I felt had no real way forward and would make the
same decision again today, I only took that decision after receiving a no to any further remedy.

Truly I do not understand why they would say no to me wanting a way to stream, then turn around and
replace me with Coast which is doing exactly what I wanted to do, maybe they we just pissed. Either way
thank you for what you are trying to to, I love you all,  but please stop.

                                                                                                                     Art

Well I thought up the name, but as you all know I am not remotly Lawyer like so I have no idea.


                                                                                                                    Art

Thank you all for the support. I did not ask for this, but holy smokes it is really going nuts.

                                                                                         Art (Chained)

What do you see in the mirror?

                               Art

 It is truly amazing, this board, rough as it is has taught me more about the cyber World
in Months than in my previous Years put together. For example spotting Trolls is so
easy now! Thank you Bell Gab.

                                                                                               Art

Well, a person can not always have the best of all Worlds, we will stream for free live and
perhaps charge something for On Demand or Podcast. Not thinking that far ahed yet,
one step at a time.

                                                                                      Art

 Yes, it is not a fight I want, but it is one I WILL have. I have asked to be released from the NC and
got a no first time around, now I have asked again and taken steps with Legal help. We shall see
what develops.

As for thinking George is a nice guy, those days are long gone. He should feel the sharp knife of
hypocrisy stab him every night when he "thanks me", I told him what a piece of crap he was after
he put Oates on in language that would make most Sirius/XM Hosts blush, still he does it either
because he has been told to do it or he really woves me, I prefer the former.

                                                                                                         Art

Actually they told me it worked Worldwide. I have that in writing. They also said The U.S. and Canada. Yes it
is my fault for not investigating the troubles anybody can read about but I was putting all my effort and time
into everything show related. 20/20 vision is so much more clear when looking into the past.

                                                                                                                           Art

Here is the truth, no I did not check out the state of their streaming. Before I even
joined Sirius/XM I was told they have great streaming to the U.S. Canada AND Worldwide.
In fact I have that in writing. It was my own fault for assuming it worked correctly. I should
have checked but I am a Talk Host, not an investigator.

                                                                                               Art

Once again people have it wrong, I had a contract out ANYTIME with 30 days notice, I gave notice and
they waived it.

                                                                                                   Art