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Quote from: SixWeekTenure(tm) on January 27, 2016, 02:56:35 PM
You're dodging. Granted, the Eberhardt question is inside baseball (though we already have a good idea of what happened after Heather's last Gabcast appearance) but the one about Noory only concerns your legal threat against MV and encouraging a raid on Other Side of Midnight was public, based on a post from Ross.

1. Did you give Heather the go ahead to fire Peter Eberhardt?

2. Will you admit that you encouraged BellGab, through Ross, to embarrass Hoagland on air because of your little behind-the-scenes spat?

3. Do you see it as hypocritical to goof on Noory for his team's hollow libel threats toward MV, using "public person" as a defense, only to do the same thing a few months down the road?

The statement made about me went well beyond the bar of Libel even for a Public Person.

As for the rest I will not comment.

Art

Despite what some say I think Heather is doing a amazing job and yes as time goes on she will need a Producer, I did both for Years at the start and it's a killer.

Art

I will not comment on inside stuff that is not related to my situation, Hoagland, Noory or others.

Art

Quote from: Freyja on January 27, 2016, 02:00:42 PM
Art, what if any feedback have you received from the affiliates who dropped MITD when you left? Will/would they be willing to pick up the show again if you decide to return? What about Cumulus?

After this last hiatus are you interested in doing a show 5 nights a  week or what would your intentions be?

How has your leaving affected the TT subscription rates?

What is Airyn's main objection to you returning to the air other than the "stalker"?

Of course when I made the statement I did it caused the big guys to go away, that's as I said on me but many of the others continue to air Heather. Yes the sub rate is back to $4.99 but also as I said many thousands remain and it is very viable.

At this point I honestly can not say if I will come back in any form at this moment for reasons  already mentioned. The only issue for us is the Stalker.

Art

I don't see many real questions here, just a lot of fighting. MV and me are fine. I did ask him to review a post from DP after somebody told me it was Libel, he did as did I and I felt it was not libel so I told him to leave it, no problem. Then there was another message from KofK which was libel and he took it down.

The phone call threat came just before I went on air and I mentioned it to Heather but did not call the Police because I have had so many phone and email threats over the Years and learned that the Police always tell you people who talk do not do things and frankly I thought it was just some kid who heard all the on air stuff and wanted to pile on. Never the less Heather on her own decided to report it and when the Police asked me about it I confirmed it and did say I had not reported it for the reasons above and they agreed with me.

I am not supporting the Network in any way, it is supporting itself. Nor am I involved with it in any way. Keith and I remain friends. I have been helping Heather in every way I know how. She has retained many thousands of subs.

I may do a Gab Cast next Week if people want it, perhaps on Tuesday if that's what people want. I did sift through the messages but saw more fighting than questions.

As for the Stalker, we have a pretty darn good idea who it is but not enough proof to make a arrest or even say. The situation has not changed otherwise and my return to the air is something I might try without any prior announcement to test the waters. It still depends frankly on my Wife. Feel free to call me a pussy but this is not just my decision.

Art

Hi everybody, first the fact that I am now here does not represent a lie since when I last left I simply said I was leaving, not quitting Bell Gab but I am sure it will be said anyway.

Second, I fully understand I reacted far to quickly at a moment I had not slept and was under a lot of stress with what was going on and yes because my Wife had enough and told me it had to stop because it was having a very negative effect on Asia. So I said something I could not take back and that is on me.

Next I want to say sorry to the people on this Forum who supported me in the run up to this show with so much, I understand your hearts were broken but I also want to say that mine was as well because I have been a member here for Years and reading many of the things said here hurt me more then you can know. I will sure cop to making a very bad decision at that time but this felt like home to me. Bad decision yes but lie, never. I never lied to you on air or off, never.

I would be glad to answer any reasonable questions but if people just want to trash me and my Family I will not respond to that sort of thing. Perhaps you do not believe this place was that important to me but you would be wrong, I am not sure it is the same place I remember but my memories of it the way it was are warm.

Art

Quote from: Soylentblue on December 29, 2015, 05:04:58 PM
Someone loves the drama. Why else would they continue to return after leaving in a huff and promising never to return only to do so two days later?

I just don't get it. Feed the trolls and they will continue to troll you.

Like I said, someone loves the drama and cannot get enough.

Well for once I agree with you, no more Drama thank you, I have things to do in life and this board much as I have enjoyed being a member in the past is not what it once was so I get it, I will leave now.

Art

I think this turd still does not get it! He has already proven he is a Cyber Stalker. I have come to believe he just might be my Stalker. He wants more investigation and he will get it. Anybody this consumed with trying to hurt me because I left a Radio show is suspect.

Art

I do not think I said I would Sue him. However if I did please feel free to post it to refresh my memory. I think I just asked for anybody who knows his real name, right?

To be sure what he has been doing is Cyber Stalking. I am going to print out all his message's and see if some others agree. Everybody knows my real name right? Time to discover his. He sure acts like a Stalker.

Art

Quote from: SixWeekTenure(tm) on December 29, 2015, 01:30:48 AM
His reasoning was that it was proof that Art puts forth a narrative to his listeners that is not completely accurate, tying it to the recent stalker situation. Digging up the first marriage and abandonment of his two kids (gifting the Art of Talk when one of them reached out to their father) seemed like a case made about Art's reliability issues and little else. I'm just not sure how Art Jr., who I sympathize with, would read anything written here unless he lurks or Art fed it to him.

Art, my Son has gone through enough. He deserves some peace in his life and I would never feed him any of this but I will go after those that do, as I said if anybody knows that assholes name I would like a PM.

Also as a matter of actual FACT I did not abandon anybody, that Marriage was when I was 19 Years old and when we Divorced she Married right away and the children were infants which were Adopted right away by their new Step Father. I was requested by my Ex not to contact them.

As for Art, I paid Child support well into his 20s. And much more because of what happened.

I guess there is nothing people will not twist for their own comfort, there must be something truly wrong with people who have to bash and twist things to I can only guess make them feel better about themselves. Again, a line has been crossed, my Son has had enough pain in his life. This will stop one way or the other.

Art

Dragging all this about my Son has gone too far. If anybody has Dark Shitheads real name please PM me with it.

My Son has been through a lifetime of Hell over all this and is in a group home now after doing things that put his life and others in danger. If anything happens as a result of all this I will take action. The things I said were what my Son told me and the Police. What was worked out in some kind of plea deal is something else. Enough is enough. I have tried today to contact MV but he seems to have the ability to contact him turned off. A line here has been crossed. If this message gives you some kind of satisfaction that I have responded enjoy it while you can.

Art

Well she was Baptised by a German Priest who spelled her name that way but no American can look at it and say Irene, so she likes it pronounced as It looks. Many people think that was my idea which is not true, it's what people who look at the spelling say and it is unique so she fell in love with it.

Art

I remember when I Married Airyn the heavy bet was it won't last six Months, anybody remember that one? This April 11th we will celebrate 10 Years.

Art

Ok, our snow picture is up on FB which is also up as of now. Amazing!

Art

One last thing since I am awake, about Heather, I was not talking about prank calls everybody that does a show gets those. I was talking about the show thread, she read that every night and it was pretty brutal. That's what I meant about one of our own. She has been a member in good standing for a long time and I know that doesn't get you much but maybe a little?

Art

Well the local paper will have to confirm that I am sure this is the first time it has snowed here in history, we took a ton of pictures but no FB to post on.

Art

Merry Christmas everybody, I am still awake because Asia wished for snow on Christmas and that does not happen here except Paul (My old Producer) called me about 30 minutes ago and told me we have a good half inch on the ground so we woke up Asia and took pictures! Snow on Christmas or any day of the year is unheard of, this is about one in a million!

Art

Ok, awash with trolls, then I will just give it a break until they get tired.

Art

That much is clearly my fault, as I said I was on edge, a complete lack of sleep I was scared and still am, the stress level was crazy and I said something that went too far after talking to my Wife. I have spent 25 Years living here but am considering a move if this keeps up, it has really screwed up our lives here.

Art

Ok, if people want me to leave I can do that. I guess it's easy to leave where you are not wanted. I simply wanted to correct things people were saying that were completely wrong.

Art

All this was reported to the Police, I did not report the call threat, Heather did, I confirmed it to the Police. Jeez all you have to do is read. At the time I didn't think much of it and still don't, it sounded like a kid. As a matter of fact we have a pretty good idea of who it might be but I can not talk about that here and now.

The threat is still real and we are really on edge.

I have no idea why people keep saying no Police report was filed, it was each time. I guess people just choose to believe what they want.

Art

Quote from: Crash Folly on December 24, 2015, 10:18:12 PM
somehow, I don't see MV reaching out to Art Bell for anything

but I'm wrong about most things

That was a joke

Thank you! It is true I have a lot invested and now I don't mean money, I really put my heart and soul in to this and it is heartbreaking in the way it turned out. I wish the best for Heather. At least she has a shot at trying Radio and if it works, and it may well work, it provides a alternative.

As for the situation here we are still very much on edge. I am glad I am here with the Girls.

People ask why I didn't hire a Guard and the answer is I did that before on Coast during a time of serious threats and it was no way to live, very intrusive. I moved here because I love privacy and as you can see it is a double edge sword.

I wrote the long post only to explain those things people were saying that were complete BS. It's been a rough few Weeks. On top of everything else my arm is cut to shreds from that Drone accident. So things are bound to get better because they sure hit bottom. One thing is clear, I am my own worst enemy, I always just say what is on my mind at any given moment. Of course I should have said Heather will fill in till this person is caught or the threat abates but I reacted like a idiot in the emotion of the moment.

Art

Oh look I am posting again! Times are tough all over, MV needs stuff for the kids and he made me a offer I just could not refuse.

See, I changed my mind.

Art

Yes, I read here sometimes so, One last Message,
The reason I am leaving Social Media is not because of anything said about me, I have a very thick skin developed over Decades, I have always held my own on Bell Gab. The reason I left is the horrible things that we're starting to appear about Heather Wade who is doing the show now. It seems to me that some of this is being promoted by people with envy or worse motives, She is a strong Woman but this stuff was in the gutter and below.

The incredible crap being cooked up about me is to much to even respond to in detail, but a couple of things:

People say how does it make my Family safer to be off air? Of course it does because I am at least here with them, as opposed to being in a Guest House a couple of hundred Yards away. My Wife asked me to stop because of my Daughter and I admit I reacted emotionally by saying what I did about not being on this night or any night. I understand I can not take those words back and the damage has been done. I am just Human and reacted as such, not a company with PR and I say what is on my mind at the time, I have always done that, many times not to my benefit.

The  first incident was of some person who was seen by a Neighbor drive up, fire several rifle shots at or in front of my Guest house Studio and drive away fast, she could only offer a dark vehicle as what she saw. She was Interviewed by the Police and I am still trying to get that report released. What they did release was the call by the second Neighbor who heard but did not see the Gun Person but was the first to call, I didn't even hear it, I was on air with loud headphones.

The next incident involved one of my motion sensor lights that went on before I was on air, I only got a short glimpse of somebody near my Studio window who quickly ran from site into the Desert, I did file a report.

Finally there was I am convinced, a shot fired at me along with a couple of shouted words like "you were" as I was about to unlock my Studio gate, that is all I heard because I hit the ground fast because it was pitch black, I called my Wife because we have almost no cell service here (we are in a valley of the valley) and was using WiFi which warns when you get it does not have 911 ability, she called the Police for me, I remained on the ground till they arrived. I did tell the Police I thought it was a .22 but did not rule out a firecracker.

I did get a phone threat on the 18th of November but did not report it because I get many along with email threats. I have been told again and again by the Police over the Years that people who talk, do not DO, so I didn't report it, I just went the air that night, frankly I thought it was just some jerk trying to join in the fun?  However, Heather on the 19th without my knowledge or request did report the call to the Police. When the next incident happened on the 23rd the Deputy did ask me about the report of the call made by Heather and I confirmed it. I also got instructions on how to mark a call if I got another.

I am so very disappointed in Bell Gab who I thought was for the most part my friend. Now I am simply sad that a group that has in fact helped me in the past in several
ways does not rally around one of their own (Heather) when 4Chan decides to try to ruin her show with prank calls and negative and in some cases, comments so bad   they are Slander. In fact it seems Bell Gab is more interested in hearing a train wreck of a show then any show at all. Over a long period of time I have tried to help everybody involved in the Network including Richard, Ross, and now Heather in every way I was able. Yes my help to Richard stopped after things I will not talk of here. I have NEVER lied to any of you and yes it hurts to think that you believe I did, but I will live through it. Now that the damage has been done and now that Heather is on the air doing her best every night why would you hurt her through action or lack of it? She is one of your own as I thought I was. At least I tried to keep a alternative show on the air, do you really want to kill that? I have no way to know if the danger is over or not, we can only hope and stay alert.

I also see some people say I wanted to stop the show because I was tired of it? That has to be the craziest of all, I LOVED doing it, I spent a lot of money to get it going and it sure was going great and most of all I was having a blast doing it, didn't that come through? I understand now the harm words can have, I was tired, scared, stressed out with a Family who asked me to stop and I said that was it, so yes the stations are going or gone, Heather is doing her best, please don't say or do things as I did, or your alternative will be gone. My thinking is she is getting better by the day.

I was thinking that I could come back and do a show every now and then but after the assault on Social Media and the hate toward me and even worse Heather, it is a open question, your right I am old now and maybe enough is enough, I see many of the old regulars are gone, Bell Gab is in danger of losing it's Soul.


Art

Ok, I have had enough, I posted the reward myself and did not consult with the Sheriff, I don't see why I need to its my money and mostly my problem. While the sheriff's Dept has responded when called they have been painfully slow to post all the reports I have made. They do the best they can I guess. 

At this point after reading some of the awful things said about Heather and myself I have had enough, I am not coming back to Bell Gab and after a short time of letting that reward sink in I will disable my FB site as well. There is simply no way to win with people like this and I have had enough to stress and sorrow over this for this lifetime. Carry on.

Art

For what it's worth I did not ask Heather to call the Police about the call, she decided to do that on her own. Second, I was pissed and went on the air that night anyway. Third it was blocked and most likely came from a bogus number anyway. Finally I am not sweating verbal or Internet threats, just things people DO. People in Public life learn to live with threats, I have had many. The Police tell you that people who talk rarely Do anything. I think the chance of anybody getting caught in random patrols is pretty damn small but the possibility of someone bragging and getting info that way is possible. I thought the idea was good.

Art

Now that is a good idea! Perhaps he or she has bragged to somebody!

I will offer $20,000.00 to anybody providing information leading to the Arrest and conviction of the person or persons responsible for the Stalking Terror resulting in my Leaving the air from MITD.

Art Bell

I am well aware I burned bridges, I said what I said and I can't take the words back and will not try but I will say I was emotional and had not had much if any sleep when I said them. I am a person who says what's on my mind at any given time and that was the case at that moment l, otherwise no excuses.

For those who think I lied about what happened I guess nothing else I can say will effect your opinion but know this, I put a hell of a lot of my own money into building my Studio, Advertising and so much more including my Heart and Soul into this effort. I did not give up easily and you all have no way of knowing how bad it was here for my Family which was the deciding factor for me.

I am still a Bell Gabber and not sorry I picked this site, I don't like easy and I don't like suck up's so I prefer it here and can hold my own.

I do think some of the things being said about Heather are below Bell Gab's normal low standards however.

Art

The key words are I don't know. I don't know if the stalker was just trying to scare me or really hurt me, I don't know if the stalker would have moved to hurt me or my Family if scaring me failed to achieve whatever the goal was/is. I don't know if the threat is still there or leaving the air was the goal. I don't know if the Stalker will ever be caught (maybe if he brags to somebody) I don't know if it's over or if I ever will know unless he is stupid enough to come back again. I don't know who is in every car that drives up. (Many do just to stop out front and take pictures). That's a lot to not know and sleep well which I am not.

People who are not facing it say you have to have balls and not let the Terrorist's win until it's them or their Family's. However you might note that almost all the Hostage's Family's try and raise the money to get their loved ones back despite the Gov't policy of not dealing with them.

This stalker seemed to clearly be escalating his actions, I don't know what would or will come next. So much not to know.

Art