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Quote from: WildCard on October 17, 2013, 02:37:19 PM
A stenographer for the House apparently lost it Wednesday night as lawmakers passed a government funding and debt limit deal, Roll Call reports. The stenographer began shouting about God and the Freemasons as the vote took place.

“He will not be mocked. He will not be mocked. Don’t touch me. He will not be mocked,” the stenographer shouted as she was taken away by U.S. Capitol Police. “The greatest deception here is not ‘one nation under God.’ It never was. Had it been, it would not have been.”

She continued, “The Constitution would not have been written by Freemasons. They go against God.”

She went on, “You cannot serve two masters. Praise be to God, Lord Jesus Christ.”
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Why is this here?

Quote from: NowhereInTime on October 17, 2013, 02:41:39 PM..But we are still the good guys, thanks for pointing that out.

Wow. That's almost as snappy as the "I'm rubber and you're glue" gibe.

Quote from: West of the Rockies on October 16, 2013, 03:37:39 PMI hear you, Sardondi.  At the risk of sounding a bit TPish, I just want my forum back!  We have some whacky posters here, most of whom are at least entertaining.  (Wasn't there an abjac -- or something like it a while ago?  He created a few threads, but he did not just dominate the damn place.)

I guess I need to "take a chill pill".  I'm not for censorship.  I have casio on ignore, the first time I have ever in any forum used that option (but each new thread he creates does pop up and I am alerted to each new post he makes even if the actual comment is blocked).  I've said my peace on the subject.  I'll pipe down now.  Maybe the cyber circle jerks will come to an end of their own attrition.

"I want my forum back!" This could be the "Freeeedoooom!" of BellGab. As for chill-pilling, these things IMO follow a sine wave. Sort of like the theory of physical, emotional and mental "waves" that was briefly popular in the 70's. We go through temp spikes and chills - it's natural.

And even though stuff stings and remarks may seem aimed specifically at us, we just can't take it personally. There was a stupid movie Bill Murray did in maybe the late 70's called Meatballs, which for its genre (summer camp hijinks laff riot) was actually not bad. There was a scene which I have come back to since I first saw it some 35 years ago. Murray leads the campers in a chant intended to ease the sting of a basketball loss to the snooty rich kids camp across the lake: "It just doesn't matter! It just doesn't matter! It just doesn't matter!" This throwaway line from a B movie I have said to myself after countless little things like broken shoestrings, as well as after having lost major trials, as my boss was tearing a 6-pound roast out of my ass, and when my GF at the time was telling me all the many, many things she had come to dislike about me. It's a wonderful mantra.

Quote from: Quick Karl on October 16, 2013, 10:54:37 PM
Ok so what do the people that are opposed to democrat policies do?

Win elections.

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on October 17, 2013, 05:56:35 AM
Well, if you believe in democracy, you vote for someone else in 2016, and hope that enough of your countrymen do the same. On the other hand, if you are a crazy eyed Tea Party loon for example, you hate America, Democracy, and everything it stands for.  You feel the only real president is one you personally voted for, and you reject any mandate to govern that doesn't include your personal vote attached.  The fact that the majority of the voting public chose a party you don't like is irrelevant - because again - you hate democracy, and you hate the majority of your fellow citizens.  Ergo, you hate America.

Perhaps you should just leave.

If I may ask, what area do you live in?

Quote from: Cynnie on October 17, 2013, 10:48:23 AMI grew up in nc ..sc is a shithole ..i wouldnt even vacation there much less live there

Quote from: Cynnie on October 17, 2013, 10:52:12 AMOh you live in sc ..ohhh , now i totally understand what your problem is

I just don't understand why people with claims or aspirations of being thought generous, kind, thoughtful, intelligent or reasonable would say playground stuff like "you people are haters" and "my state rulz, ur state sux".* Because it comes off as motivated by small-mindedness, mean-spiritedness, hypocrisy and ignorance. And surely that's not so, because you're the people of love and compassion.

* I presume the "cousin-fucking, Jesus-obsessed, dubya-praising" was hyperbolic parody...or maybe just hyperbole. 

Forgive the self-quote, but it's relevant. I said on October 10:

"The only objection I have to the shutdown is that I've had no confidence that Congress will stand fast. From the beginning I've been convinced Congress will begin making unilateral offers of concessions to induce Obama to merely negotiate, which will of course be rejected out of hand, because Obama will recognize them for the admission of abject fear they are. Ultimately Congress will just give up and declare some kind of meaningless victory, which everyone will see through. And it will all have been just one more humiliation for the GOP leadership." http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=4213.msg166028#msg166028

Game, set, match.

Quote from: West of the Rockies on October 16, 2013, 01:08:31 PM
And if nothing else, the elbows thrown here in the political threads are at least more interesting than the steaming piles of horseshit that have been popping up (plopping down) in the General threads lately.  Oh, lookie, another video of a fucking laundromat.  Tales of time travel and heartache.

...and I thought it was just me. I can't even go to most of the DM threads or the Compendium - the quality has definitely fallen off badly, and it makes me sad. I have....heartache.

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on October 16, 2013, 09:18:58 AMThis was over the top on my part, woke up on the wrong side of the bed, and missed the humour in your post.  Sorry, Sardondi.

Hey, you have nothing to apologize for. You may have noticed I can poke a stick in an eye myself. This is where grownups play, and sometimes some elbows get thrown and eyes get gouged, but no blood, no foul. Besides, criticizing an idea or even a group of people for ascribing to an idea, is not an "ad hominem" attack. I truly thought nothing of it. Some things we just become inured to, and I was in no way offended. It was very decent of you to apologize though

Quote from: ksm32 on October 14, 2013, 08:16:29 PMPeople who start a new thread or two every FN day.
Makes me punch fences and kick stuff.

Quote from: West of the Rockies on October 15, 2013, 06:02:49 PM
Oh, for Chrissakes, you took the words outta my mouth.  Just because a thought pops into your wee little head doesn't mean you have to share it with society.

I find this continues to annoy me daily. How can someone have been here just over three weeks and have started 18 threads? 18 threads! And most of them absolutely inane topics not much different than "How much do you like Art?" Jeez Louise, STFU.

Okay, a "Segway", as deftly noted by lonevoice, is a two-wheeled personal transportation device.

Its homophone "segue" is in the sense meant here a verbal method by which the speaker transitions smoothly from one subject to the next, without pause or introduction. 

BBC internet radio has a channel dedicated to drama, books and comedy. Outstanding. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4extra

Quote from: NowhereInTime on October 15, 2013, 01:05:07 PM
Actually I'll give you the benefit here.  All too often Tea Party activists dressed in Revolutionary War era costumes when the movement started.  Lately, though, I've been seeing the Johnnie Reb queens out and about blaming President BlackMan for all of their ills.  I'm not so sure they're the same people who started the tea party outrage 3 years back, but they've latched on.

Stop it. Just stop it. Reasonableness and concession even on essentially minor points is an unfair tactic, and I demand you oppose me - now!

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on October 15, 2013, 05:36:53 PMSay what you want about Ruteger, but at least he drives a domestic:

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I have to admit this does embarrass me. If you're somewhere out there Mr. A., on behalf of Earth allow me to apologize for associating you with Obama.

Quote from: NowhereInTime on October 15, 2013, 04:00:49 PM
Sanctimony, parsed facts, sanctimony, insult....

You do so give me the giggles.

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on October 14, 2013, 01:29:31 PM... in a place with a good jukebox.

Vital. And by "good jukebox" I mean something jam-packed with music on 45's, like music 1964-1972. If limited to just one genre beyond "Top-40" I'd say Motown. It's simply scientifically impossible to have 4 beers in you, and be in a place with a stone tile dance floor, and endless motown on a juke, and not be goofy happy. You will be giggling or the universe blows up or something. 

Quote from: West of the Rockies on October 15, 2013, 06:02:49 PM
Oh, for Chrissakes, you took the words outta my mouth.  Just because a thought pops into your wee little head doesn't mean you have to share it with society.

Yup.

What is a "funny antidote"? Laughing gas?

Quote from: NowhereInTime on October 15, 2013, 03:01:57 PM
It's called Presidential discretion.  He is the Commander in Chief and if he decided to "open the mall" than so be it.  All monuments and parks were closed because they could not be adequately staffed.  Should the WWII vets have been denied access?  No.  However I find it interesting that when the commander-in-chocolatey-chief makes a decision, some vets and tea baggers assume the right to violate the law (disobey direct orders).
The real travesty would have been if he had them arrested.  He didn't, did he?

Ruteger, I still love you because, my God, I just cannot get over your brilliant kind of loopy!

Ouick Karl, Nucky Nolan, whoever the hell you are today, you have been nothing more than Arte Johnson lately. And not even funny, stoned, Arte Johnson.

Defending closing the mall and the national parks as "presidential discretion" is a nifty piece of intellectual dishonesty. It costs money which supposedly the government doesn't have to close the mall, outside monuments and parks. It serves absolutely no legitimate purpose to close it, and is instead an obvious piece of political theater meant to goad and bedevil the citizenry, and then use the captive media to pass on the laughable claim that citizens should be mad at Congress for using armed guards to arrest them when they want to see their national monuments and walk in taxpayer-purchased and -maintained public space. It's indefensible - but be proud that you've mounted your kneejerk defense.

Quote from: Twotrips on October 15, 2013, 12:50:30 AMSurprise!  A Chicago Democrat at his best...

"It's the Chicaga Way. They look like they might unseat you in a fair election - you target every one of their leaders for punitive review, audits and disparate treatment by the IRS, thus silencing and dismantling the opposition. They object to the expansion of the NSA's size and its powers - you increase the number of wire and vocal communications you intercept and surveil illegally. They object to your calls for a de facto repeal of the 2nd Amendment by executive fiat - you come up with a scheme to plant automatic weapons with the Mexican drug cartels and then wait for them to be used to kill US agents so that you can demagogue for more government gun control. They speak out of their fears of the growing despotism of your administration - you buy up a massive and unprecedented amount of ammunition under the pretext of supplying previously non-law enforcement-related agencies, both creating an ammunition shortage of several months and gradually accomplishing your goal of creating a massive militarized federal police force. In short - show 'em who's boss. That's the Chicaga Way"

Quote from: Unscreened Caller on October 14, 2013, 08:19:12 PMP*B, I'm curious. I've never eaten in an Ethiopian restaurant - what are their specialties?

I remember eating at the famous Red Sea restaurant in Wash. D.C in 1977(!!). The bread P_B talks about reminded me of Nerf foam material, but it tasted wonderful, as did the sauces and stews (none of which I recall specifically) which I picked up with it to eat.

I do remember an awkward feeling of how all us overfed Westerners must have looked chowing down on a single meal that was probably the caloric intake equivalent of 4-5 days of sustenance for the average Ethiopian. They are a tall, very slender and spare people, almost delicate, with very sharp cheekbones and almost sunken eyes. Fat is virtually unknown to them. While I enjoyed the food, I can't say I was comfortable there. 

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on October 14, 2013, 08:16:09 PM
Back at ya!

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I call Bullshit. He's your team bubba, not mine. There's no way in hell that's a legit Tea Partier. For more than 4 years your guys have tried to pull provocations at virtually every Tea Party rally there is, by dressing up and acting out as some ridiculous never-was Tea Party false fantasy which fits every leftist's wet dream, waving rebel flags and spewing racial epithets. They've been caught doing it countless times, though that kind of slime can't be embarrassed. Just like this lying POS depicted in front of the WH. J'accuse.

Quote from: UFO Fill on October 14, 2013, 05:42:41 AMI think your Himmler question was the best of the night.  If reincarnation is real, how do we know that Himmler is not in a new baby?

It just proves George might have been on to something with his "mean baby" question....

Quote from: onan on October 13, 2013, 07:55:49 PM
Can't both be true?

You know, as a problem in plane geometry, I guess it is. Not in this case, though. Besides, I don't think I'd want to harp on how stupid some guy is that my team hasn't been able to stop or even slow down for over 25 years.

Quote from: NowhereInTime on October 13, 2013, 11:21:44 AM
You mean those heady days when highly tolerant persons like yourselves referred to me as "UnAmerican" because I opposed your incursion into Iraq? 
You mean those heady, tolerant days of "protest zones"? 
You mean those heady, freedom loving days when people were coerced into passing something called the "Patriot Act"?
You mean those heady days when the Office of Legal Counsel legalized torture through fiat decree?
I do.  I remembered them vividly, too.  Conservatives accusing anyone who dared dissent as unamerican, unpatriotic, and coddling terrorists.  Shameful and disgusting.
You people who consistently revise history through rose colored glasses: you serve a fantastic falsehood.

Do you really expect me to believe that you think this administration is just the flip side of Bush? See, I don't think you do. Perhaps you're that blind, but I don't think so. I think you recognize just how different the two are, and are so committed to the permanent institution of a leftist government, regardless of how totalitarian it is, that you use "Bush did it" as some kind of excuse. Just in looking at the huge distinctions in how the media treats the two administrations, and how the administrations differed in how they approached dissent, we see there's no comparison. It's simply not possible to think they were the same.

You seem to think that when get your leftist government by strongman that is at the heart of Obamaism that it will be only conservatives who will be shut up and who will suffer, and that somehow you and your ideological allies will be in fat city. It would almost be worth having it happen to see the shock when the other shoe finally drops.

Quote from: onan on October 13, 2013, 03:45:25 PMIt is easy to hate, it is even easier to be stupid. Limbaugh is the maestro to the band of hate and stupid.

Huh. And here I thought it was that his blowhard and irritating style was part of a shtick chosen to elicit an even more pissed off response when he exposed the left's failures and hypocrisies.

Ooooh! Ooooh! I've got one! What if we had strapped four airplane engines to Eleanor Roosevelt and loaded her ass with bombs?

Quote from: BobGrau on October 12, 2013, 04:43:07 PMNewsflash, ma: everyone hates their job. That's why they get paid.

As my 85 year old father, who still works like a slave and who spent 30 years working for GM in a job he hated, said, "If work was fun they'd call it play."

But I have to say I loved my job, and I wish like hell I could still do it.

Quote from: Centurion40 on October 11, 2013, 12:35:27 PM

Not even being the man who sang "Achy Breaky Heart" deserves this as a daughter.

However, having encouraged and pushed your 8-year-old girl to act and dress like a pedophile's dream, and having managed her career so that she presents herself as a nastier and more sexual Lolita, is the kind of behavior which richly deserves  - and almost always guarantees - this kind of daughter. Enjoy every Father's Day, Billy Ray.

Quote from: West of the Rockies on October 11, 2013, 12:49:20 PM
QuickKarl, you said, "Today, journalism is a complete fraud; the intent being not to inform people, but to mislead them."  I suspect that a big part of the problem is that the notion of a truly objective media is quaint and overly romanticized.  I see very little genuinely objective news nowadays.  Salon certainly has a bias, as do Slate, Daily Kos, Huffington Post, NewsMax, RedState, Rush Limbaugh, MSNBC, Fox, etc., etc., etc.  Some will deny this.  Some will insist, "Well, MY news source is beyond impeachment; my news source is unbiased and fair."  And yet no one is able to hold up such a news source without a great chorus of voices attacking it.   For everyone who thinks Democracy Now has no agenda, there is someone who believes The National Review has no agenda.

I think that all of these sources, however, are in the business of making money (pleasing its audience).  Follow the dollar....

Having followed news for well over 40 years I can say from personal observation that there's no question the coverage is far more partisan today than in the 50's and 60's. It began changing of course with Watergate in the early 70's when journalism became some kind of social calling and a way to "change the world" instead of way to make a living by finding events of broad interest and writing reports of them for publication. Of course there was never some golden age in which perfect men and women acted like emotionless machines in covering the news. But it used to be that reporters - and most educated adults - had no difficulty in being able to put personal opinions aside and write an unbiased, factual account of events. Newsmen took great pride in their ability to hide their personal opinions, and tried hard to hide their own views to the point that their own colleagues couldn't tell what they personally felt about an issue. That shit is gone for good. The very idea of a Journolist, in which far-left liberal reporters organized so that they they might shape and manage the news to suit their personal and political agendas, would have outraged reporters and newsmen of the last generation.

Today's media's is also unable to look at itself honestly. The mainstream media insists that it is objective and unbiased. That's simply ludicrous. At first they really believed it, but with the coming of Obama and the grotesque partisanship they joined him in, even they don't believe it now - they just won't admit it.

But it is not just the coverage which is grossly slanted - it is that there the msm maintain a de facto censorship of valid, indeed blockbuster, stories, but which for various reasons they feel are too sensitive or harmful to their party to cover at a particular time (sometimes cover at all). It is the old "how would they have covered this if it involved Bush" test - which the msm fails virtually every time.

Finally, if there any profession in which some 95% of the members were either Republicans or agreed with their policies, the left would be bleeding from the eyes for it to be destroyed. And yet that is the news media - except that over 95% of its members are either registered Democrats or agree with Dem policies. So let's dispense with the silly business about "there's no bias here". The media is riddled with it. It's just that the left likes it the bias of the media as currently configured. Which is a shame. Because the worm turns.

"Good evening, my good sirs! I greet you with the hand sign of the Great Eye, in the spirit of brotherhood of all Masons good and true. Be so good as to make some room before the fire if you please. For it is a bitter cold night, and I feel the need of ale and slatternly company. So, boy! Boy, there! Bring me beer! Beer and whores! And let me tell you about my latest experiments with electricity. And if we linger here more than just a few pipes and tankards, I'll tell you lads about my visit to The Hellfire Club when I was last in London......"

Okay, seriously: isn't this already enough of a chat room?