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Quote from: MrMajestik on November 05, 2013, 02:40:21 PMPeople who are too stupid to understand what a non-compete clause is.

You mean Art?

Quote from: onan on November 05, 2013, 03:34:07 AM
I don't care what reasons are given. Art screwed the pooch. And like several have said, not for the first time.

The only thing I am upset about is the number of people that invested for a 3 year expectation. Nice going, Art.

I don't wish Art ill, but I am done giving him the benefit of the doubt.

My thoughts exactly.

Hey, go to bed!

I had forgotten about this. Jesus, the depravity humans are capable of. It's stuff like this that make me laugh at the idea that humanity is perfectible, or that humans are "basically good". Humans are cruel, selfish swine, and will torture and destroy anything they come in contact with unless constrained by morality imposed by early introduction and constant instruction, as well as existence in a society which highly values that morality. 

Quote from: Quick Karl on November 04, 2013, 12:05:47 PM
Something tells me the Voters are going to be sending a clear anti-establishment message to establishment RINO's in 2014 and beyond. Christie is a blowhard that will gain the same result as did Richey Rich, but for different reasons.

When Christie started blowing Obama he sent national conservative voters the clear message that he never wants to leave New Jersey. Ever.

Quote from: stevesh on November 04, 2013, 12:19:18 PMI hope you're right, but I think not. I think Romney will indeed be the GOP nominee in 2016, unless he manages to seriously step on his dick between now and then.

Which would be just the move I'd expect from the GOP's eastern establishment. It will also be the death of the GOP, because a massive number of conservative Republican voters will refuse to vote for Romney again. They will leave the GOP to either vote third party or stay at home, because they're sick of propping up a party which does nothing but spit on them. It will also signal a landslide victory for Clinton, with Romney receiving the lowest number/% of  votes of any GOP candidate since '92.

Quote from: ksm32 on November 02, 2013, 10:49:08 PM
The Reluctant Astronaut. Don Knotts... I just loved dat guy.

The Ghost and Mr. Chicken: it still puts a smile on my face almost 50 years later.

Quote from: SaucyRossy on November 02, 2013, 11:41:04 PM
As Bateman knows I've been on a horror movie binge watching session this week, partially cus of Halloween but mostly for research for a project I'm writing....

I too have been through a couple of weeks of something similar, but it was more the classic low-gore of the 50's-60's horror films. I watched 6-8 each of the Hammer films and Vincent Price horror movies. And they were such a treat. I was particularly struck by the tremendously high quality of actors in the Hammer films. I didn't say high quality of acting though, since so much scenery chewing was demanded. But the actors were wonderfully trained. You could tell that even the supporting cast were trained in the classic theater, and all had that Shakespearean voice. Price was much the same, although the Corman movies are not as interesting to me. Still, I see superior actors even in those movies in comparison to today's uber-gore flicks.

Quote from: HorrorRetro on November 03, 2013, 07:04:45 AM...I swear to God I'm tempted to get a small cattle prod and start poking these bitches in the ass the next time I run into a group like them.

A quick detour for a short war story about cattle prods. Once upon a time, years ago, I was involved in the prosecution of three smalltown cops who occasionally tortured suspects by using cattle prods to extract confessions. The FBI even recovered two of the prods which had been thrown into a creek by one of the officers in an attempt to hide the evidence. One of the cops was represented at trial by a big, blustering ex-football jock named "Big Al." Big Al was an asshole and a bully. He was also essentially stupid, although he had a certain low animal cunning that made him a dangerous enough trial opponent. But he would make these tremendous assumptions, not realizing he was doing it.

One assumption he made was that these cattle prods were essentially harmless. After all, his clients had told him so. And they were powered by just 4 D-cell batteries. How painful could it be to get shocked by that? It's just some little sissy nigrah convicts making a big deal out of nothing and trying to get our brave po-lice in trouble, right?

And truth to tell the testimony of the victims hadn't been all that effective. They were for the most part jailbirds, and their stories did tend to change some. It was looking dicey for a conviction, particularly since cops were the defendants.

So Al is cross examining the FBI agent who recovered the cattle prods. He's holding a new and undamaged identical model of cattle prod which has been admitted as an exhibit to show the jury what the things looked like before they were bent and thrown into the creek. Al is getting the FBI agent to admit certain things which make it appear the prods are little buzzers which work more on the theory of surprise or noise than on an actual shock. And somehow Big Al gets the bright idea that he's going to demonstrate the prod in open court, and show the jury how there's nothing to these little buzzing doohickeys. It'll be a Clarence Darrow moment, and Al will be a legend in the courthouse. 

Except he's never tried it out before. He had no idea what the cattle prods could do. No idea. And he asks the question, "Why, these things don't even really hurt, do they Mr. FBI man?" And in open court he jams the cattle prod into his own thigh.

And it was like someone kicked him in the balls. He immediately leans forward and lets out a big "OOOOOFFFFF!" like someone punched him in the gut, staggering, almost falling down. He looks up totally dumbfounded, clearly never having considered that those battery-powered things could do something like this. So he turns to the prosecution table and, before he could catch himself, in a stage whisper everyone could hear, he says, "Damn, that hurts!"

He recovered himself enough to get a few more questions out, but he finally had to sit down. It was obvious that one shot from the prod had taken a real toll on him. We couldn't have asked for better testimony. And so it was Big Al became a legend in the courthouse - but for how his idiocy convicted his client, not for his Clarence Darrow genius. Ah, good days, good days.

Okay, back to the thread.

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 02, 2013, 07:30:27 PMSome idiot company is developing boxes to go in people cars to monitor where we go.  States are already lining up to use them to tax people based on mileage.

Very soon they will be a standard part of every vehicle, like headlights which cannot be turned off or seatbelts which cannot not be worn. Very soon after that our political class will pass a law making it illegal to disable the car-bugging device, much as it is already illegal to modify your gas tank cap to accept leaded gasoline hoses. It has finally come to pass that we live and walk "free" only insofar as it pleases our master The State. Step outta line, The Man come and take you away.

Quote from: nooryisawesome on November 02, 2013, 04:26:26 PMI liked the show. did you try to listen to George?

It goes without saying that Art Bell on the worst night of his life is miles better than George even after he's been in dryout for 30 days, had 6 months of a regimen of anti-depressants and anti-Alzheimer's drugs, and has actually participated in the p90x program for more than 2 days.

Regards the silly "Negative Nancy" stuff, what is there about being candid about public figures that so often upsets the fan mentality?

I don't understand the supposed complaint of those who think Amazon is doing something improper by "avoiding taxes", as if there is some duty for a business to structure their actions so as to implicate a taxable event. I particularly don't understand that attitude of "O woe is me! Amazon won't let me pay my appropriate taxes!". This smacks of hypocrisy.

Because there is absolutely nothing stopping Amazon users from sending any taxes they believe Amazon is improperly avoiding on their purchases to any governments to which they think they're owed. 

Quote from: BattyBrooke on November 02, 2013, 03:35:31 PM...People that act all shocked and caught off guard when at asked to pay at the checkout counter then proceed to slowly dig through their blackhole of a purse while the line is 10 or so people deep....

This continues to amaze me. It's like, "Huh? What? Oh!! I've got to pay! Oops, I don't have enough money! Now, where is that card? Maybe I should write a check instead.....". Jeez Louise! Drives me crazy.

Now, I'm going to get in trouble here I know, and perhaps YMMV, but I see this thoughtless behavior - the inability or refusal to think ahead and prepare for payment - far more often in women than in men. I can't remember the last time I saw a man not ready to pay. On the other hand, getting behind a woman who starts the process of thinking about payment only after she is told the total of her bill is a regular occurrence. I'm serious - all too often they haven't even found their debit card. The worst are the ones who know they're going to have to write a check and haven't even gotten their check book out, much less begun filling out the basic information.

Wasn't able to listen live, and had to listen in three different sittings. But I had two thoughts. First - the show was very weak. The weakest of any Art-hosted Halloween show. Hell, a couple of callers talked about scary dreams! I suspect this was a function of a significantly smaller "story pool", and Art had to take a whole heapin' helpin' of sucky stories and suckier story tellers. That's because there just aren't nearly as many listeners today as 15 years ago. Art clearly felt how sucky the show was - his energy level was very low, and for the first time I felt like he would much rather have been somewhere else. It just wasn't any fun for him...of for many listeners. When the most satisfaction I get in the entire show is when Art finally cuts a guy off for refusing to get to the point, it's been a weak night. 

Which is my second point. What the hell is wrong with these people who will not get to the point, even after repeated warnings? Apparently there is no one left in America who can gather their thoughts and tell a simple story. Of the 20-30 stories we heard on the Spooky Matter show, fully 3/4 of them were seriously marred by hemming and hawing and their inability - or refusal - to get to the damn point. Art himself was frustrated by it, and said he thought his favorite story of the night was the guy who talked and talked without saying anything relevant until his time simply ran out and his connection was lost. My favorite was the guy who wanted to talk about everything but a ghostly event. Art warned him twice to get to the point, but he wouldn't do it. so Art cut him. Eeeeeeexellent.

A very disappointing night.

What annoys me today? Oh, an average of 5 (mostly inane) topics started per week, and an average of something like 12 posts each day. Every day. All day long.

But then my sleep has been very bad and I'm in an especially ornery mood. So YMMV.

I detest pro athletes who insist on the owners abiding by the terms of their contract so that they get paid even in those years when it was clear they weren't putting out the effort, their production was negligible and they weren't worth a tenth of what they were paid. But when the athlete has a great year - you know, one of those years which it was anticipated he would routinely have when he was negotiating his current contract - all of a sudden he wants to "renegotiate". That such situations are even eligible for "arbitration" is an offense to the very concept of a contract.

Art made a deal. He had 10 years to decide what he wanted and if he wanted to do it. So six weeks after he began the new contract he's apparently unhappy. Now, Art can be a man and abide by what he swore he would do. (But then a man wouldn't have started whining six weeks in, would he?) Or he can start a public campaign to alter the terms of his contract; while upping the ante by suddenly having back attacks which hurt him so much he can't talk.

Art is getting very close to my "had it up to here" line.   

Quote from: MV on November 01, 2013, 07:14:54 PM
it's only the best healthcare system in the world if you can afford access to it.  having said that, obama care is a fucking disaster.  single payer is the solution.

Singlepayer - from the people who run the IRS, the NSA and the Post Office. So that everybody has crappy healthcare.

Except they won't, will they? Just you and me. There will always be that double-secret "platinum service" which Congress reserves for itself, the lobbyists, top contributors, cronies and the nomenklatura. The US healthcare system has been utterly destroyed because Americans have become too cowardly to object in the face of MauMauing by the ideologues who wish to trample any dissent. Too many people were afraid of being called "racist" to object to an obvious fairytale.

I'm having a hard time finding the simple decency, much less honor, in trying to wheedle a unilateral change in the contract you bound yourself to a mere 6 weeks earlier.

Ooga chucka.

Quote from: onan on October 26, 2013, 01:35:51 PM...And you know what my side hasn't done? Cheered at the fact if someone hasn't prepared for some acute perhaps fatal condition they would have to die. You know what my side hasn't done? Call the acting president a liar, in chamber, during a live broadcast. So I guess it is civility be damned... oh wait, the only practical solution is to draw sides and shoot the others....

"You know what my side hasn't done?" Oh come on. You're pontificating about Democrat civility? Please. For 8 years Democrats and the left made an unprecedented - and still unmatched - assault on the facts as well as good taste and simple good manners. To have a Democrat lecture about civility in political discourse is just beyond parody. As for the lecturing, please spare me. I quit listening to the ideological etiquette police calldowns when I noticed they all went one way.

I'm really amazed you could take this attitude. Someone's had a memory scrub or a brain fart, and has gone to great pains to point out a fleck in the other guy's eye and completely overlooked the 2x4 in his own. I tell you what - let's just forget your guys' "liar" stuff - we'd be here forever. Let's go straight to good old murder and death talk from Team Integrity. How many hundreds of thousands of death wishes and death threats were issued by the Politically Sanctified, loud and proud, by sign, by voice, by pixel and print, by audio and video, in all manner of media and in every kind of public gathering including supposed churches, which were directed at Bush? At Cheney? At Rumsfeld? At Rice? Palin? And even her Downs child? None of this half-ass "liar" stuff, but good red-hot, hate-filled, death wishes and threats. Every fucking day for years, and even continuing until now.

What your side hasn't done, my ass.

Quote from: NowhereInTime on October 26, 2013, 10:02:06 AM
Well, no, Sardondi it didn't.  No one in my camp respects his always loaded opinions whether he actually stated them or not.  Is it right? Perhaps not, but this one's crossed too many lines to warrant that level of respect.  When he wants to play nice with the other kids I'm sure it won't happen again but that doesn't appear likely.

Which makes it all okay, huh? You declare him "Other", and the rules don't apply, huh? Just sling that Nazi shit.

Because it's useful, isn't it?

Quote from: West of the Rockies on October 26, 2013, 10:28:39 AM
I wasn't sure how to spell the term, Sardondi, so I did look it up online and encountered multiple spellings.  I chose one at random.  How many times have you encountered misspellings in my postings?  I think it's pretty damn rare.  Have you never beefed about grammar nazis here?

And, yeah, I went "the full Godwin" -- heaven knows I'm the first person to do that on these threads!  I mean, it's not like Obama has ever been compared to Hitler on this forum; it's not like liberals have ever been called fascists/socialists/communists/nazis on this forum. 

I've seen you several times now take great offense when you think someone is "telling you who you can and cannot like".  I took offense at SlowKarl's words and explained why in -- perhaps -- slightly hyperbolic terms.  Oh, oh!  I know!  I'll use the standard-issue conservative defense:  I was just joking and you people over-reacted!  Why, some of my best friends are blacks/gays/nazis.

For what little it's probably worth, Sardondi, I enjoy your postings.  You are a bright man with a broad range of interests.  In matters political, I think you've been duped.

And you're not being honest with yourself about this. You truly think it frees you to attack whoever as a Nazi because - I assume you're correct about this, although it's completely irrelevant - "it's not like Obama has(n't) ever been compared to Hitler on this forum"? Seriously? An attack on a favored national political figure - the President in fact - by unnamed parties, frees you to accuse someone you dislike for ideological reasons of being a Nazi? You can't believe that.

You messed up. You took a cheap shot. But you're not alone.

Quote from: NowhereInTime on October 26, 2013, 12:55:06 AM
You really want to be Quick Karl's water boy? He's a misogynist rascist douche with endless insecurities and limited contextual ability. This is  your standard bearer?....

I kept waiting for someone in your camp to point out the very same thing I was forced to. But of course that didn't happen.

Quote from: West of the Rockies on October 25, 2013, 11:01:53 PM
QuickKarl said:  "I do not shop in Wal-Mart - ever. Mostly because I do not like having to deal with the people that work there, most of whom are recent immigrants from countries that resent Americans, and that do not speak comprehendible English..."

Ah, at last we have it.  Your words.  Those goddamned people just don't look like us or talk like us.

Oh, I know you wrote more; you paid lip service to hard-working Americans.  But the crux of your words is clear enough.  Who else don't you like?  Jews?  Catholics?  Homosexuals?  Socialists?  The developmentally disabled?  Who else did not care for those people?  Hmmm... let me think.

Seig Heil!  Seig Heil!  Seig Heil!

Except of course that's not what he fucking said. And btw, if you're going to go Full Godwin out of the chute, you might want to at least learn how to correctly spell the basic phrases.

Quote from: bateman on October 24, 2013, 03:00:25 PMI have an interview on Sunday. I'm debating having a beer or a cup of tea before. Decisions, decisions...

Quote from: aldousburbank on October 24, 2013, 03:32:07 PMBath salts.

Because nothing says you're a real go-getter like chewing the face off your interviewer....

Quote from: stevesh on October 24, 2013, 06:55:18 AMEven more likely, I think, that our current 'quantitative easing'-based fiscal policy will reach a tipping point and inflation will spiral out of control. I'm learning to can food and I'm loading as much ammunition as I can get components for, mainly for hunting but some for self-defense.

I'm not a pinhead and don't even own a Bible, but I think we all have some responsibilty to be aware of possible trouble and provide for ourselves and, if possible, others.

The only people living in a metropolitan area when a life-changing disaster strikes (pandemic, famine, grid destruction) who will survive will be the most vicious of criminals who can organize. Also known as current gang members. But food in the cities should be no problem for awhile, at least for those willing to be cannibals, at least until the population dies out and protein becomes harder to find. Then the gangs will have to migrate. Suburbs will be in just as much trouble and will be just as indefensible if not moreso.

Only large families or groups of families organized into small communities who live on 100+ rural acres (and of course significantly more land as the number of group members rises) with a fortified, defensible central site can hope to survive. If they act quickly enough and with enough violence the ones with the best chance of survival will be successful in sending teams to intelligently loot pharmacies and hardware stores in nearby towns - supermarkets will probably be swarmed over immediately. They must have access to an infantry unit National Guard armory for crew-served automatic weapons, grenades, claymores and ammunition; plus any MREs, water and fuel supplies. If they're very lucky they'll score mortars and LAWS rockets. And then they might expect to survive only if they are constantly vigilant and ruthlessly protect their crops and livestock from the starving masses streaming out of the metro areas, and are willing to peremptorily kill refugees on sight.

Bottom line: any urban or suburban area will soon become a dead zone in a life-changing disaster.

What?! They can't delay implementation! It's the law of the land! What are they, Tea Partiers!?

Quote from: b_dubb on October 23, 2013, 08:45:11 PMI think it's the Memphis Belle - a B17

Quote from: ItsOver on October 23, 2013, 08:49:36 PMAh...great!  This is the B-17 I get the pleasure of seeing and hearing at times....

I think the B-17 was one of the sexiest, most beautifully proportioned and downright near-indestructible planes ever designed. There might have been 4-engine bombers which could fly farther, and deliver a heavier bomb load (sometimes considerably heavier, à la the Avro Lancaster), but I guarantee none could fly with as much structural damage or bring more of their crews home.

Quote from: b_dubb on October 23, 2013, 02:00:16 PM
If people are out there attacking the Tea Party unfairly I'd urge them to stop....

Seriously - you're nominating yourself The Arbiter of Fairness? You're the standard? And you're going to be the defender of truth and right? So that if  - just trust you! - you saw aaaaaanything at all improper or unfair with the media's coverage of Tea Party issues, why, you'd hop in there with your First Amendment badge of courage and fight the good fight. Do I have that right? You're going to protect the rights of these same people you describe as "a dangerous bunch of unhinged, uneducated, unthinking paranoids". And, of course, you see nothing. Looks fine to you, eh? Ergo, as the universal conscience, since you see nothing, there must be nothing to see? Or put another way, since you haven't "urged them to stop", the media must have said nothing at all misleading or false. Heh.

Thank you for clearing that up. And thanks for taking on that burden. And thanks as well for, yet one more time, demonstrating the sheer arrogance seen in a distressing number of "progressives", and the sneering contempt in which they hold the ideas and ideals of conservatives.

Quote from: West of the Rockies on October 23, 2013, 02:10:36 PMRecognizing that nothing compares with the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum, do any of you have a decent airplane museum near you?  In Chico, CA there is a very small one that features maybe ten planes, none of which is all that impressive.  I hear they just acquired an F-14 Tomcat, but I haven't seen it yet.  You can go aboard one or two of the planes.  There is also a little indoor museum with local airplane lore.  If I'm not mistaken, Chico was the site of the first airplane hijacking on U.S. soil back in the very early 60's. 

Can anyone recommend an airplane museum worth taking a day-trip to in your area?

The National Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola, FL is incredible. Probably has more actual aircraft than NA&SM, although most are outside.  http://www.navalaviationmuseum.org/

Quote from: widespread1 on October 22, 2013, 10:58:12 PM....I really had no Idea how crazy it has gotten with Gnoory
I didn't even know it was really him until it got all serious....

But it's not him. Never was. Outside of perhaps a few brief lines here and there it's always been one of the producers or C2C interns just throwing out some red meat. Otherwise the numerous requests for George to Skype or otherwise demonstrate in real time that it was indeed George posting here (and tracking an IP address or doing a couple of shoutouts don't prove anything except that the computer being used to communicate with BellGab comes back to C2C and that the person typing can get a message to George)  would have been complied with.

But I thought Leir was not an M.D. Isn't he a "podiatrist", or foot doctor? If he is, he's a "D.P.M." and not an "M.D.", and he should be very limited in the surgery he is permitted by state law to perform and the drugs he can prescribe.

Podiatry is viewed with disdain by many in the medical community, since the academic and professional standards for its study and practice are significantly lower than to study medicine. It's sort of like chiropracty in that it can provide some medical benefit (which is why its practitioners may be licensed in most states), but is looked at as requiring a lower level of skill and intelligence to practice, unlike medicine.

Quote from: b_dubb on October 22, 2013, 04:37:12 PM
so does anyone think that Leir and Farrakhan were ever in the same room? that's such a whopper it almost demands belief.  i mean to tell a lie THAT huge

and to think i used to think Leir was on the level.  most of his implants are just subdural mineral deposits i'm sure.

You know, I used to think he was such a straight shooter. Now I think he's just one more carnival barker, buttering up the rubes.

Quote from: rangerdavid on October 22, 2013, 05:01:16 PMthe email sounds just like Lisa IMHO.  good thing it was a written response, cuz I can't imagine how she can speak with George's d*** in her _____________________ (you fill in the blank)

Dog in her kennel?
Discus in her gym bag?
Drambuie in her liquor cabinet?
Dramamine in her purse?

What? What?!