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#1
How To Use BellGab / Re: Change of username
November 15, 2016, 12:16:10 PM
#2
Quote from: FightTheFuture on November 15, 2016, 05:15:33 AM
Yeah, that`s a good question and I can certainly see your point. However, I thought the death of her child raised a very important question (one of many, actually) to contemplate. If you knew how the life of your prospective child would turn out -- in this case, an extremely premature demise -- would you still go forth with it? Apparently, it led to the divorce of Louise and Ian, as Ian learned that she knew it would turn-out the way it did, but didn`t let him in on the secret until later. Without question, it added another layer of emotional depth to the story.

One has to imagine how it would be to suddenly have these gargantuan alien spacecraft just show-up one sunny day. How would the world react? I think Villeneuve got it as close as one could expect. The fear and anxiety, as well as innate bravery, was brilliantly portrayed by Amy Adams, through whom, incidentally, the story is told. For my money, that made the film far more intimate and personal.

The movie makes it clear that the universe as we once knew it was over, forever. Everything changed for humanity with Their arrival. We were given a "gift."  A gift -- kind of like the "gift" of nuclear power, if you ask me -- that would be the catalyst for humanity to evolve into an advanced race and eventually help save the Heptapods in some manner. (Abbot said his race would "need us in 3,000 years").

Overall, just a fascinating movie, not perfect, but beautifully filmed and put together, and well acted. I estimate it will garner nominations for: best picture, best actress, best director, best cinematography, writing, and sound editing.

I agree the death and the dreaming/reliving of all the events was intriguing, but my concern was twofold. One, If I have the chance to savor a relationship I know will end, by returning to earlier points in that relationship, how do I move past that finalizing moment. Two, although not a large part of the audience, if I had lost a child and only had to remember the good parts to get over the pain, I might find that a bit insensitive/condescending.

I was both amazed and annoyed by the aliens. I thought the visualization was absolutely astounding. At the same time, I was annoyed by the obvious technically and overall perceptual superiority of the aliens yet they had an almost impossible task of "teaching" their language to us. While at the same time they had, what appeared to be, full awareness of what was to be in 3000 years.

But you are right, the movie will assuredly garner nominations and awards. And I too am looking forward to the Blade Runner sequel. 
#3
Quote from: FightTheFuture on November 14, 2016, 03:20:31 PM
Well I just returned from seeing Arrival and I have to say, I absolutely loved it. There are so many elements to this movie. Villeneuve meticulously folds them all together to form a fascinating sci-fi stew. Amy Adams is a shoo-in for Best Actress.

P.S. Deni Villenuve is directing the sequel to Blade Runner.

I'm glad you did. Although I had several problems with the film, I am curious how you felt about the death of of her child and learning to live in a philosophical time loop? It didn't seem well thought out to me.
#4
Random Topics / Re: Celebrity Deaths
November 13, 2016, 10:55:35 AM
Leon Russel, 2016... uncle.
#5
Quote from: FightTheFuture on November 13, 2016, 01:58:14 AM
I was unable to get to the theater today (Sat?) due to a full slate of interesting college football games. Sun is out of the question, so Monday it is.

Onan, I am a bit discouraged by your review, but I shall push forward regardless. Damnit! Been waitin` for this flick a long time. How could a Denis Villeneuve film with Amy Adams and Jeremy Renner not be worth watching?

I honestly don't see how the movie has gotten the high marks it has received. I read somewhere that there is a lot of science in the movie... I guess I missed it.

I was led to believe the movie would be, at least in part, a procedural in interpreting an extraterrestrial language, it really isn't.

The story takes on a metaphysical aspect regarding time and a person's life, that is kind of interesting, but it isn't well explained in the movie.
#6
Quote from: onan on November 10, 2016, 11:11:18 AM
It's not a bad movie, it's just more cgi than story. the bad guy would have been scarier if they had cast charlie brown.

Did see a pretty good western on video, In a Valley of Violence, kind of a Hang em High meets John wick.

Saw The Arrival, It starts after it ends, and begins before it starts. That sounds intriguing, it isn't. There are some words in the middle of the film, that add very little to the puzzle. But the puzzle, none the less is solved by dreaming of the past, in the future. Pass on it.
#7
Politics / Re: President-Elect Donald J. Trump
November 10, 2016, 04:39:59 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on November 10, 2016, 04:33:34 PM
https://archive.org/details/TheAmazingAlexandersnlSpoof


We're like two ships passing in the night here. Tell you what, you watch mine and I'll watch yours and I won't fap to mine either, okay?

I'm glad I invested in telechargeit.
#8
Politics / Re: President-Elect Donald J. Trump
November 10, 2016, 04:29:56 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on November 10, 2016, 04:24:14 PM
I... was? Was it much better than Cats?

Tea leaves.

Perhaps you missed it, but FighttheFuture posted a video.

I am not a fan of Cats and after about 30 seconds cat videos get old.
#9
Politics / Re: President-Elect Donald J. Trump
November 10, 2016, 04:23:17 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on November 10, 2016, 04:19:00 PM

Now that you've admitted that you consider the Warren Commission to have been "pretty much" legitimate, it invalidates your opinions about "pretty much" every other geopolitical event of the last half-century.

How am I supposed to credit your ability for rational and critical thought, when by your own admission, you find The Magic Bullet Theory persuasive?

We may as well be reading and eating the tea leaves.

You have been shown a video that clearly explains the positioning for a straight line bullet path.
#10
Politics / Re: President-Elect Donald J. Trump
November 10, 2016, 04:21:15 PM
Quote from: starrmtn001 on November 10, 2016, 04:16:25 PM
Quite a feat for a toddler, don't ya think? ::) ;D

I was in the third grade, I had access to high powered rifles, easy access to interstate travel, and who would expect a 9 year old?
#11
Politics / Re: President-Elect Donald J. Trump
November 10, 2016, 04:13:13 PM
Quote from: WOTR on November 10, 2016, 04:12:11 PM
Onan.

I did admit to that fact, so yeah, it was me.
#12
Politics / Re: President-Elect Donald J. Trump
November 10, 2016, 04:05:27 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on November 10, 2016, 04:01:39 PM
Okay, I'm accepting of that. Now, let's just see just how far that effort took you.

Who killed Kennedy?

I pretty much believe the Warren Report.
#13
Politics / Re: President-Elect Donald J. Trump
November 10, 2016, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on November 10, 2016, 03:44:43 PM
... aren't I?


What implications of that do you expect me to accept? It is not as though I've never done the same, and received bupkis from you.

If there's a reason you cannot reiterate, you're welcome to elaborate.


'Tween you and I, I envision a world without fences, under one sky.



See, see, look right here. I asked you a simple question that needed little effort in response. Et tu, Brute?

I don't like guessing games. Why do I think something is? How can I know what is in your head?
Maybe you just want to mess with me. Maybe you think I am messing with you, I am not, but you may well not believe I am being sincere.

I will leave it at that. I was making an effort.
#14
Politics / Re: President-Elect Donald J. Trump
November 10, 2016, 03:32:17 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on November 10, 2016, 03:18:50 PM
Whenever you're ready to make a commitment to move past an attempt, I'll be happy to engage in dialogue with you.

Why do you think that is?

If you have something to say, just say it.

I asked you a simple question that needed little effort in response.

I am doing my part to mend fences with several people here.
#15
Politics / Re: President-Elect Donald J. Trump
November 10, 2016, 03:16:39 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on November 10, 2016, 03:14:49 PM
And, lo! "Some insight" has been granted.

You're really not very specific in your some of your inquiries, Onan. How does that make you feel?

I feel fine. I was attempting to discuss with you. Nothing more. If that is too big a bridge to cross, no worries here.
#16
Politics / Re: President-Elect Donald J. Trump
November 10, 2016, 03:13:27 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on November 10, 2016, 03:11:39 PM
Do you imagine yourself in a leadership position here?

*sigh* not even a little. I was hoping for some insight from you, since you often ask about the assassination on Kennedy. I was asking for some information without you having to go to any great length. That was all I was asking.
#17
Politics / Re: President-Elect Donald J. Trump
November 10, 2016, 03:05:14 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on November 10, 2016, 03:02:50 PM
There's like three things there. Pick one.
Tie up the assassination of Kennedy, no footnotes needed. Just the motives and the top two principals.
#18
Politics / Re: President-Elect Donald J. Trump
November 10, 2016, 02:57:18 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on November 10, 2016, 02:37:34 PM
Literally the actual cause of Kennedy's death.

rite?

Explain this one to me, please.
#19
Politics / Re: President-Elect Donald J. Trump
November 10, 2016, 02:34:15 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 10, 2016, 02:23:11 PM
This from the guy who's been defending the mainstream media and the polls this election.  ::) :D

Even if that were all you were to use to judge me it doesn't change the truth of my post.
#20
Politics / Re: President-Elect Donald J. Trump
November 10, 2016, 02:01:11 PM
Quote from: Juan on November 10, 2016, 01:57:07 PM
Yorkie, you asked about history lessons here.  No, they are not taught presently.  If they were taught, the children might learn that the US did not invent slavery, that Jim Crow laws were imposed by Democrats, and that Josef Stalin killed more people than George W. Bush.

You're being intellectually dishonest.
#21
Quote from: ItsOver on November 10, 2016, 08:59:08 AM
Let us know what you think, FTF.  I have mixed suspicions about it after reading some early takes on it.
Quote from: FightTheFuture on November 10, 2016, 08:38:18 AM
Damn! I was planning on seeing that this weekend. Well, anyway, thanks for the heads-up. Saved me some $$.

P.S. VERY much looking forward to Arrival. Starts tomorrow.

It's not a bad movie, it's just more cgi than story. the bad guy would have been scarier if they had cast charlie brown.

Did see a pretty good western on video, In a Valley of Violence, kind of a Hang em High meets John wick.
#22
Saw Dr. Strange, wait for video.
#23
Random Topics / Re: The General Musings of Falkie2013
November 10, 2016, 07:15:37 AM
Quote from: area51drone on November 09, 2016, 08:36:27 PM
The Great One has two images for you all tonight, in the wake of yesterday evening's news.   As George triumphed over the liberal swill at sewergab, he also triumphed over the rotting tooth in his mouth that was causing so much pain.  Free from that which was holding him back,  The Master will return to his craft with another video later.  Stay tuned out there!

#MakingYoutubeGreatAgain

Fucker is copying casio.
#24
Quote from: Camazotz Automat on November 09, 2016, 03:58:21 AM
I'm having flashbacks of Sylvia Browne's fingernails tickling the top of Montel Williams' stage-illuminated head.

That's what election night can do to your brain.

Meanwhile, the transfer of power in Washington D.C. should be interesting to watch:



I was going to ask you if the pic was from Lifeforce, but as I paste your post I see in the pic link, that it is.

was a good movie
#25
Politics / Re: Donald Trump
November 09, 2016, 10:00:18 AM
Quote from: albrecht on November 09, 2016, 09:56:34 AM
According to some (not sure, you know how they "word" stuff) the bond passage means it will be easier in the future to enact more stuff. On the good side? Austin might get "gondolas" in the future. But basically, we got more bikes lanes to help traffic. You know because people going to work, like Holland (City Council went on a fact-finding trip there a few years back,) will bike to work....hint we have hills and it is 100F out there many months! But I'm sure we can hire some outside consultants to figure a way around that problem!
I may have shared this before, In Pittsburgh the city/county/borough wanted a new sports stadium. They put a bond issue on the ballot, it was soundly rejected by the voters. They still built the stadium at the tax payers expense. 
#26
Politics / Re: Donald Trump
November 09, 2016, 09:50:50 AM
Quote from: albrecht on November 09, 2016, 09:47:46 AM
I still have hesitations about Trump. Just sort of sad on all sides that people invest so much personally in candidates, even to the point of personal relations. And ignore things like a local bond issue that didn't go the way I wanted. Oh well. I think, hope, it will all work out.

Nary a one on my ballot. My biggest decision was between two county commissioners both of which I like.
#27
Politics / Re: Donald Trump
November 09, 2016, 09:43:51 AM
Quote from: albrecht on November 09, 2016, 09:39:27 AM
Come out and play-e-a!
ps: turned off my phone last night but now getting texts from Hollywood relatives about "cutting off" contact with "anybody who voted for Trump." I'll wait for them to sober up but basically ignore. Hilarious, but sad how much people invest personally, monetarily, and psychologically in candidates.

I already congratulated you guys for Trumps win. Quite honestly, I am interested to see how this thing plays out. I am trying to be gracious. Obviously, I misread and mis-followed what was happening. I am not such a sore loser that I hope things go badly. I am worried they will but I am not hoping for it.
#28
Politics / Re: Election night 2016
November 08, 2016, 10:47:22 PM
Looks like congratulations are in order.

Hopefully we find a way to unify as a nation.
#29
Politics / Re: Hillary Clinton
November 08, 2016, 06:51:35 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on November 08, 2016, 03:44:56 PM
That's in your bubble. American culture is replete with examples of all that behavior.

Would you like me to flood the board with demonstrated examples? Honestly, I have more exciting things to do today than hold up your demonstrably absurdist notions to illumination.
Not people running for President,


Quote from: Jackstar on November 08, 2016, 03:44:56 PMMy definition of 'civility' is no more or less valid than yours. You and your gang of mewling sycophants routinely evade legitimate issues in debate here via ad hominem ripostes--now, you're suddenly here playing the "I'm So Reasonable" card. (Get bent, Fucko.)

You got all pissy with me and followed my posts, just to be a jerk. Then went and posted how much you missed the guy that said I was full of shit. So the bent thing... right back atcha

Quote from: Jackstar on November 08, 2016, 03:44:56 PM
Your either-or viewpoint is particularly insipid here, given the fact that there at least eight candidates on the ballot--hey, why aren't you voting for the doctor, anyway? Is it the impulse control?

There is no either here, you are unable to form any argument in a rational way. You constantly post the question of who killed Kennedy, I suppose to imply you have the answer. I have found you to never have a valid answer to any subject... except commas.

As to Stein, have you listened to her?

#30
Politics / Re: Hillary Clinton
November 08, 2016, 03:31:18 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on November 08, 2016, 03:18:33 PM
And yet, you with all your past opportunities to persuade.

What is to persuade? You seem to have no understanding to the human condition, everyone loses their composure at some time. What most people don't do is make blanket generalizations, mock the handicapped, and encourage violence in the manner Trump has done.

Look, it is simple either you are unable to converse in any polite or civil tone, even when it is obvious there is an attempt being made. Or you're a malcontent for no purpose except to be a malcontent.

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