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Quote from: henge0stone on May 27, 2016, 07:02:59 AM
Compared to the Art Bell days C2C Am is crap but compared to every other thing on the radio its still one of the more entertaining shows. Its still the only mainstream terrestrial radio paranormal show which is why it keeps its audience.

I disagree.

I think Dave Schrader & Darkness Radio are fun and entertaining (and not idiotic like C2CAM).

There's also Jim Harold who does podcasts but I think could be on the radio if he wanted. He has the voice and demeanor for it.

I suppose if you like conspiracy theories then Alex Jones is king.

There are a lot of crap podcasts, though.

Micah Hanks ("The Gralien Report") isn't terrible.. The problem is that the first 45min is over-explaining his thoughts/positions on whatever topic. This is every podcast.

C2CAM, I'd argue, just happens to be on the radio but ranks amongst the worst if you were to put it in with other random UFO/Ghosts/Demons podcasts. I don't even think it'd rank because it's crystals/spirituality/numbers lady/nonsense now.

Quote from: zeebo on April 22, 2016, 03:57:33 PM
An excellent summary bsbishop.  Another time-filler I'd add in is all of the (probaibly manufactured) human drama/conflict .. e.g. "He's always like this!" or "You can't give up now we have too much invested!", etc.  Somehow the camera is always around to catch these clashes.

Yep, someone says something, the musical chord sounds, and there's the head turn of someone else and then the steely-eyed stare between two people, usually Marty and Rick. I swear they're cutting in the same footage of the steely eyed stare when there probably wasn't one.

Also, Rick appears to be the crazy treasure hunter. I don't think there's anything that would convince him that there's not treasure under the swamp or at the bottom of 10X. No matter what was not found, he'd just say something like, "it's hidden under the silt. We have to drain the ocean so we can send someone down deeper to dig and then we'll know for sure!"

It also was odd that they bought the CAT equipment. They really hadn't found anything but suddenly there they are, buying the CAT equipment. It felt more like they bought it because:
A) The show needed something
B) It would be a lot of fun to push dirt around.

The History Channel could have had a pretty good mini-series on Oak Island detailing the initial discovery and the work of each of the explorers/hunters over time. Each could have been an hour show giving you something along the lines of about 5 hours of documentary. Nope. That would have been interesting/educational and people would have wanted to watch it both now and in the future. Far better to create cheap, throw-away TV with repetitive nonsense.

Someone in the thread mentioned the Weather Channel. That channel is unwatchable now. I happened to catch about 5min of one show which was about paranormal investigators who claimed that UFOs set off tornados in Oklahoma. That's pretty much bottom of the barrel nonsense right there.

It's pretty rare when I see actual weather on TWC now. Mostly it's something akin to "Tornado Stories" or paranormal weather nonsense.

When my current deal with cable is up, which was a pretty good deal compared to where I lived before, I'll just go back to locals (OTA) and streaming.

It's so bizarre to watch an industry cut it's own throat with reality programming.

I've been binge-ish watching this over the last few weeks via History's app.

Much like the OP (from 2014) I've heard of Oak Island and am intrigued by the mystery of it all. Treasure, tunnels, booby-traps, etc.. That's just awesome all by itself.

I heard about the show on History from a guest on Darkness Radio. I thought it sounded cool and figured I'd check it out.

Looking at their app on my Apple TV I saw three season. I knew one thing right away: Nothing was found in Seasons 1 or 2.. I also was 99% certain of one other thing: Nothing will ever be found as these types of shows are, essentially, the search for nothing.

I watched, anyway.

First thing: The repetitive commercials are torture. You can't skip through them. Sometimes you'll see the same commercial back to back and they eat up a lot of time. This is far worse than just recording it on a DVR.

Second thing: Like all shows on Discovery/History/etc., they spend more time telling us what happened or showing us repetitive graphics of what they plan to do, than just letting us see what's happening. I estimate that 1 hour of viewing amounts to 20+min of commercials, 20 mins of, "Back in Season 1..." (cut to footage you've already seen again and again and again) and the various CGI bits of showing a the drilling and the filling of the hole with water and animated divers making a the plunge into the 27" hole in 10X, with whatever leftover time (less than 20min of said hour) being the actual people doing the work.

The third thing is that they entertain everyone's theory on what's underneath Oak Island. All these pie in the sky assurances that the Knights Templar stashed the Ark of the Covenant there or it's Portuguese Gold or Aztec Gold or whatever. Each person that comes has a more ludicrous story than the person before.

The last thing is just how dumb all of it is. They'll drill a hole and then realize that they needed to drill a larger hold. They'll get an excavator and realize they can only go down so far and need a bigger excavator. They'll hire divers to go down 10X and realize, "Oh, we didn't clear out the bottom of the shaft!" They'll drain the swamp and find nothing.. and then drain it again..

For the amount of money they've spent they could have just built a small hotel with a great view. They could have gone exploring for oil or whatever.. Instead they spend money to find nothing.

I think I've given up on it at this point. Between the repetitive commercials, repetitive graphics/"last time.." crap, and them really not finding anything, it's just a waste of time. I'm sorry I started with it.

Nora sucks all on his own and I'm sure he'd agree with me on that because he agrees with everyone all the time.

I rarely listen these days but looked to see who was on the roster:
- The numbers lady (Please no!)
- John Grey (Men are from Mars, Women like a Penis)

Paranormal? No.
UFOs? No.
Ghost stories? No
Demons? No
Weird stories? No
Cryptozoology? No

Let's get more into normal topics which I have no interest in in the midnight hours...
Health? No
Finances? No
Politics? No
Gardening? No

Freaking "Numbers Lady?" (If you add up the numbers in that phrase you'll get 57 which leads to 5+7 which is 12 which is a year and that's a year of stupid shows)
John Grey - "Men are different from women" - Really? Who'd have freakin' guessed.

Quote from: deltalitprof on June 20, 2015, 01:50:16 AM
How about the way Snoory just now shut down RCH's request for more airtime in mid-July? RCH was pretty respectful about it. He said perhaps. But Snoory lost his temper and loudly told him to drop it and then to go pout somewhere off air. Snoory sounded like a bully. "Got it?" he yelled.

I heard that. I was surprised. I thought about how Noory never questions anyone on anything but he wasn't having any of RCH and expanding the show by any amount (which I didn't fully catch until it was posted here).


I think RCH finally said, "I'll email you on it..."


First, I'm surprised they'd let RCH host C2CAM. I can't imagine him doing anything but talking for 4 hours.


Second, I'm surprised that if RCH got a chance to host C2CAM that he'd be so bold as to suggest they let him expand the show, if that's what it was all about.


Lastly, from what I gathered the two had already discussed this and it seemed poor form to me for RCH to bring it up on air. I could understand Noory being cross with RCH as he was trying to corner him on-air.


Anyway, it was a surprising exchange.


Looking at the pictures RCH shared with C2CAM for various structures on the moon or Mars or whatever, I kept looking, even at the enlarged pics with arrows pointing at what you were supposed to be seeing, and thinking, "Why does RCH even bother with this nonsense?" There wasn't anything there. RCH pretty much has to imagine something is there in order to talk about what's not there.


Looks like a possible good show tonight with George Knapp, though. UFOs and all that.

Witney Streiber falls into this. Each time he's on he tells the same story about Communion, rape, and how the studios took his script and threw it right into the trash. Every freaking time.

David Paulides is falling into this, if not already there.

Quote from: Wintermute on May 31, 2015, 12:39:24 PM
Robert Young Pelton... I happen to enjoy his writing and some of his mis-adventures. But he rarely has had anything new to say for about 12 years. Plus he hasn't been all that insightful in a while. For C2C, he is about as legit a guest as they book regularly. No healing crystal nonsense or bizarre space crap. Just geo-political travel adventure really.

Michio Kaku is the other one. Why he agrees to come on is beyond me because C2C has been garbage science for 3 decades. When he is booked, he doesn't say anything super new. Usually you can just read an article online and get a better feel for whatever science breakthrough he is expounding.

I like Michio Kaku but not on C2CAM. It doesn't fit. It's the same, but inverse, problem of having Ancient Aliens on the History Channel. I want campfire stores at 1AM, not facts and science. Those are for daylight times.

RCH is pretty bad. LMH is losing her touch, too. Witney Streiber tells the same stupid story about Communion every time and how they took his script and threw it right in the trash.

All of them are bad but not the worst. The worst, by far, is,  "The Numbers Lady." You can tell she's the worst because "Numbers" starts with "N" with is the 14th letter of the alphabet and if you add 1 + 4... It's not even a good campfire type story. It's just nonsense of adding random things together and then saying it's "good" or "lucky" or whatever.

It always bugs me a bit when Paulides is introduced or talks about his years as a detective. The whole point of that is to give him some credibility. The problem I have with it is that just because someone says that they were a detective doesn't mean that they were a good detective. It's the same with RCH and his, "I worked at NASA.. I worked for Cronkite.." He may have sucked at both. I don't really know but the fact that it keeps getting touted makes it all seem less credible.

I do like Paulides as I think he's one of the better guests. The first night he was on with Knapp it was really captivating. As time has gone on, as others have mentioned, it's turned more into "how'd you get into this"-chat time instead of, "here are more interesting stories."

I'd say that the genius of Paulides is that he never has the reveal. There's never a moment when you think, "Oh, he's going to explain why all of these people are disappearing or even one of them." There's no speculation. He just leaves it up to your brain to stir on it. That being said, it's starting to get a little old and isn't as compelling as it once was.

Interesting to note, Dave Schrader said on his show (Darkness Radio) recently that Paulides said that he refuses to come back on unless Schrader reads all of his books, cover to cover. Dave said, "Well, that's simply not happening so Paulides won't be back. I have plenty of things on my plate and don't need to spend all of that time reading all of those books."

It struck me as a odd demand from Paulides when he's trying to sell those books and I don't get where insisting that the host read all of them helps with the storytelling.

Ultimately, as was said before, nothing will ever be learned or proven from any of this. Such is the way of all paranormal shows. Josh Gates even made a pretty good joke about that on one of his Destination Truth shows. He said something like, "Hey, do you know what we're doing today?" and one of the crew members answered back, "Going off into the jungle to search for something and come back with nothing?," and Gates responded, "Yep... Just like every other show.." (paraphrased) It made me laugh.

Quote from: expat on May 08, 2015, 07:46:13 AM
It's worse than that. Sometimes the frequency increases, sometimes it decreases. He makes no distinction between up and down, it's just a signal. He keeps saying he "measured" the torsion field but he has never said what the measurement actually is, or even what units the field is measured in. It's junk science -- just flim-flam.

I remember him recently going on and on about some guy in California who was just trying to make his car cheaper to operate but then stumbled upon making it a perpetual motion machine.

It was something like, "It runs on water. The water gets split into Oxygen and Hydrogen and then fed into his engine. The result is water which he just feeds back into the reservoir. This guy was just trying to make his car cheaper to operate and he opened up a whole new realm of science! Physicists are really going to need to study this."

It's just so over-the-top insane. I think there was a mention of "big oil" shutting this guy down. I can't imagine anyone at any of the oil companies giving any sort of attention to this guy because it's all nonsense.

As others have said, RCH is better with Art than with anyone else.

He typically just seems too condescending to me. It's like he's talking crazy and then says something where the interviewer is supposed to connect the non-obvious (but RCH thinks they're plainly obvious) crazy-dots.

It also gets old with him saying he worked at NASA and was Cronkite's science advisor. When I hear this I think, "It doesn't mean you were any good. It just means you worked there."

The other problem he had is that when he was touting the face on Mars you could see it and say, "Wow - that looks like a face! ...and it's on Mars!" You could show that photo to your friends and they'd say the same thing.

Everything since then has either been us having to imagine something is there (like apartments on the moon or whatever - blurry streaks that look like a photography problem with the lens or the film, not evidence) or he claims something is there but then says NASA won't admit to it. May as well claim that there's a miniature alien golf course on Mars - just that NASA won't release the photos.

Now he's into torsion field / free energy stuff but there's never any proof. Just him saying that his torsion meter went off the charts when he stood in a field or some such nonsense. He also goes on and on about the science of it as if just saying "science" makes his random babbling "fact". I think it's also a play to put himself on a pedestal with "I'm a scientist and you're not that's why you're not understanding my babble."

I don't even find his crazy talk babbling entertaining. It's just tired, now.

I'd say this:


Anytime Noory is on I turn the radio off. Hell, most of the time I think, "Oh, it's a weeknight, thus Noory, thus, don't listen!"


Noory will ruin any interview, even if it's of the guy/gal you're interested in hearing.


So, after that you have the regular suspects:
- Linda Moulton Howe
- Richard C. Hoagland
- Joshua P. Warren
- "Numbers lady"
- Any new age person
- Any financial person
- Any doomsayer


They all suck. I used to like LMH, RCH, and JPW but they all just babble nonsense.


If David Paulides is on (his stories still creep me out but, even then, it's a bit borderline), and Noory isn't hosting, then I'll listen. That's about it at this point.


C2CAM has been ruined by Noory and Clear Channel. It just sucks, each and every night, now.

Quote from: narcissist noory on November 13, 2014, 02:27:02 AM
GN- " Do most cultures use numbers?"

This sounds like something he'd say. Problem is, I can't tell if he really said it or if you're making a joke, which is very telling of Noory.

Quote from: FightTheFuture on November 12, 2014, 10:36:32 AM
Where to turn? It seems like I am now clinging to the rare Knapp appearance to maintain my sanity. THAT is a heavy burden, even for the Knappster.

Knapp seems to be neutered these days. He's good at interviewing but it's like Noory sees him get a good, interesting guest and says, "That one must be mine! Give Knapp the spiritualist undertaker!," and Knapp is left with some boring interview because of a crappy guest.

I haven't checked this forum in a while. I received an email about the GabCast so I thought I'd check it out.

Anyway, it's rare when I listen to C2CAM now. I usually get my paranormal fix from Darkness Radio, now.

My experience is usually: Ugh, I'm up. Let's see what's on C2CAM:
- Hear Noory - immediately turn it off. Even the most interesting guests will be ruined by Noory. Usually he'll say something stupid, seemingly just so he's heard, and it throws the guest off as if the guest wants to say, "WTF is he talking about?" but can't so he just glosses over it.
- If it's some other host then I'll give it a listen until I find out it's not ghosts, UFOs, other creepy things but something like financial collapse, government issues, etc. - then I turn it off.

C2CAM is a horrible show. They're trying to make it a current events show and I don't think Noory really has the intelligence to keep up with that. Current events shows require research. Rush Limbaugh, like him or not, doesn't just wake up and walk into the studio 5mins before showtime. He, and his staff, pay close attention to current events, politics, etc. They do this after the show. They do this before the show. They have show prep. He's well versed when he comes on the air and can speak intelligently on issues (you may disagree with him but he still speaks intelligently on the issues - that's really not the point. The point being: Rush works at it. Noory phones it in and can't even get that right.)

From what I understand, radio stations aren't asking for C2CAM (not any longer) but are being force fed it as part of a package. "You want Rush Limbaugh?? Then you're going to take C2CAM as part of the deal!" I can't see that working long term, especially when it just becomes a "current events" show. Someone is going to figure out: Radio stations don't want C2CAM. They'd just assume rerun Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, or (whatever other show).

Eventually someone higher up is going to figure out that it makes no sense to pay for a really bad current events show when they could just run reruns of far better shows. The only thing that really makes C2CAM stand out is just how bad it is and that's largely on Noory's shoulders.

One other thing that's happened to C2CAM is that the callers are decidedly more dumb now (lesser quality callers) than, say, 10 years ago. It used to be that you'd get a caller with something interesting to say or some story to tell. Now, and I suspect that it's because the pool of callers that they draw from is much shallower than before, the callers seem to have a hard time putting together a consistent cognitive thought. The closest you get is when the simple minded religious people (and please understand, I'm using that term to refer to the callers, not all religious people everywhere) call in and start quoting Bible verses - that's the best caller now.

Something else I don't get with this is that if Noory really wanted to do a current events show then why bother taking the reigns of an obvious (and hit) paranormal show? It'd be like someone taking the reigns of HP or IBM and saying, "You know what? We're getting out of technology and we're getting into plumbing!" It just makes no sense. It is what it is, though.

I can't see this lasting. Ultimately it's about money and the whole reason C2CAM was bought from Bell was because he built a successful business and built a large audience. You can't own that property, knowing that you're having to force it onto stations through some package deal now and pretend it doesn't suck. Maybe to the outside world you pretend it doesn't suck but you know, internally, it sucks. Eventually you have to land on: Why are we paying to produce this when we have to force it onto stations when we could spend that same money to produce something of value that they'd happily buy and, not only generate more revenue for our clients, but for us as well?

Put me in the "I don't" camp.

Over the last few years it was going downhill and I was pretty tolerant of it but even I was thinking, "This is shit. Give me ghosts, demons, UFOs, weird shit. Don't give me the power of finding leaves in the forest - shit!"

Then Dark Matters came along and, had it not been for that, I probably would have given up on C2CAM sooner rather than later. When Dark Matters hit, suddenly, C2CAM was all about interesting things again. There was a full month of it. It wasn't as good as Dark Matters but it was better than anything that had been on C2CAM in years. Dark Matters left and C2CAM fell into the same old routine that I hated before.

Sometime late last year I heard Dave Schrader guest host and he mentioned Darkness Radio and I started listening to that. I flushed C2CAM shortly after that but I heard David Paulides was going to be on so I thought, "That's usually pretty good with the creepy stories." Noory screwed it all up. I think I've turned it on one time since then and it was some stupid shit and I turned it right back off.

It's not spooky. It's not enjoyable. It's not even stupid-funny. It's just shit.

Quote from: nooryisawesome on April 30, 2014, 02:15:42 PM
Ratings were at an all time high for a Noory hosted show, that night.

The sad thing is that ratings had to have peaked just as Noory took the reigns. It has to have been a fairly steady decline right up until the last few years where I'd guess it's dropped off at a sharper angle.

I just refuse to listen now. The guests are horrible. Noory is horrible. Even if you get a guest host you still end up with crappy guests.

It's not even a mediocre show where you could look back and say, "yeah, it's not what it was in it's glory days but it's still OK." No, it's a shit show. Even past Noory (like 5+ years ago) is better than this. Dead air is better than this.

I made the mistake of listening to this show even after I thought I had given up on it after the David Paulides interview.

expat's explanation is spot on.

Here's the thing: Every once in a while there's weird shit out there:
- the face on Mars
- video from the space shuttle of odd objects doing strange things like stopping and changing direction.
- other odd-WTF is that?-type photos

Even if the face on Mars is just a trick of light and our brains wanting to see something, you can still see, pretty clearly, how someone got there.

When RCH went on and on about structures on the moon and how the Chinese had captured images I was expecting to see something, even it if were naturally forming but looked man-made like the rock formations in Scotland. I wanted to see something.

What I ended up seeing was stupidity. Yes, it's clear that if you screw with a picture enough you can take the noise from the background and make it look foggy. That's not even close to a dome or any kind of odd structure produced by anyone. It's stupid f-ing noise, just like what RCH was spewing.

With Bell you would have at least gotten, as you did with Dark Matters, "Nope, I'm not seeing it." With Noory, everything's real or, at least, not to be questioned.

Yeah, I'm solidly back into the camp of: Don't listen to C2CAM.

Oh, and the first apocalyptic guy not being able to pronounce "continuity" was dumb. This isn't a rarely used word and it's one he should have heard and used before if he's an author. It's bad with Noory is correcting you.

Quote from: EBE123 on March 14, 2014, 05:11:13 AM
I'm most annoyed when Paulides answers questions with sentences beginning with "so".

I could live with that. The Noory-Paulides interview was the one that made me just give up on Noory altogether. I won't listen to Noory again regardless of who his guest is.

I'll listen to Knapp and Schrader but, even then, the guests they're getting now are so lame that I'm pretty close to just giving up on it altogether.

Quote from: expat on March 13, 2014, 11:13:37 AM
I'm with George on one thing -- a paper-and-pen appointments calendar (Rolodex, too, actually). The digital equivalents may be highly convenient, but one computer crash -- even a power failure -- and they're as much use as a pork chop in a synagogue.

Years back I'd be with you on that but, today, contacts are kept (ugh) "in the cloud" (I hate that phrase) and nicely shared with each of your devices so if one device dies your contacts and calendar with appts are still there.

Get a new phone? Just login and all of your contacts reappear. Same on the computer. Someone move? Just update it in one place and it's magically propagated elsewhere.

10 years ago with Palm Pilots and the like you were right: It was a pain to synch and things could easily be lost.

Now things are a lot better. I'd say my biggest gripe is that calendars are separate. I primarily use iCloud for my personal calendar and if I send someone who uses Google an invite to some event, they'll get it in their email and they can click on the (iCloud) webpage to accept/reject it but it never integrates with their calendar. That sucks. It should just work across platforms. (it's all CalDav, if I understand it correctly).

The first 3 make sense to me. I don't understand how Mike Savage beat both Beck and Levin.

Then you get into the weird muck of it and Noory, for what C2C is with having so many affiliates, seems both oddly low and oddly high on that list to me.

It's weird who he follows but then, all things considered, it's weird that he's #16 compared to a lot of people below him.

Quote from: Uncle Duke on March 11, 2014, 08:08:28 PM
Don't get your point about the Paulides' show being staged.  Are you saying Noory was better or worse than usual? To me Paulides is nothing more than a huckser footer and I didn't/won't listen to the show, but I am curious how you think this specific program plays into Noory's future one way or the other.

If you go back and listen, Noory's comments seemed oddly forced. It wasn't a natural conversation or an interview. It was like, "Ok.. Now I ask this question.." and it was like the questions were prepared for him by someone else. I don't know, I'm not in the studio, I'm just saying that's what it was like.

To put it better:

Let's say you were a good friend of mine and you had been involved in an automobile accident today.
Let's say I'm a horrible friend and don't pay attention to things.
Let's say that we plan to meet at a bar later and you're going to tell me all about it.
Now, let's say that my wife realizes I'm horrible at conversations and prepares some questions that she thinks would be appropriate for the conversation.

So, based on that, I'm going to go to the bar, meet up with you, and ask questions that, while they may be on topic, don't quite fit the flow of the conversation because my wife obviously couldn't guess exactly what was going to be said. So it comes out all disjointed.

Now, it was better than previous interviews but it was still pretty bad / odd.

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I think C2C is on its way out along with Noory.  Bad as Noory was a year ago, the show quality has really gone in the crapper in the last few months.  The show doesn't work with him, he knows and just goes through the motions.  He only perks up for the dopey New Agey crap and for homeopath quacks, and PRN knows the show is spiraling in.  I don't think anyone can bring it back...the material has been flogged for going on 20 years yet still no UFOs, no aliens, no bigfoot, no shred of proof of remote viewing. The listeners are like ten year-olds who know the truth about Santa but can't give up on their Xmas list. I still think PRN hired Wells to transition the show into right-wing politics, but he ran off the reservation with Jones and the conspiro-crazies.

I agree that it has gotten a lot worse in the last year. I have a friend who was bugged by Noory years back but I kept thinking, "Ok, he's not Bell.. He has his own "agree with everything" style," maybe that's what you don't like. After he signed the contract it seemed to go off the cliff. It's been noticeably worse since then.

Now, I can certainly understand how some of you may think this is me being hopeful. I have no inside knowledge or anything like that it's really just my observations: I think PRN knows it's spiraling down the drain. They purchased a well known, marketable product from Art Bell. Listeners fell off a bit with the Bell->Noory transition but up until the contract signing I bet that they were at least consistent. I think, over the last year or so, that with Noory's performance and, I'm guessing, his change in direction of the show, though it may not be, that someone is noticing the listener numbers really tank and they're passing down word to "fix it". I think that's what we're experiencing now.

The Paulides interview was strange because someone purposely moved that off Knapp's plate and onto Noory's. In addition, the interview process seemed very much like a "you can do this, George"-sort of thing to save him. It wasn't a natural interview nor was it a normal Noory interview.

If there weren't concern for Noory's job I think Paulides would have been left to Knapp or, if Paulides somehow ended up on Noory's plate then it would have been the same old normal interview for Noory.

Based on the interview with the earthquakes/asteroid guy and the Paulides interview, I think Noory is on his way out.

Looking back, while he wasn't great, he was able to keep it together until he signed his 10-year contract. After that it took a horrible turn for the worst. I think someone at Premier has taken notice and said, "fix him or he's out!"

I think that's why, out of all of the shitty topics/guests that he's had over the last year, that he was given Paulides and it was so staged. It was a, "Com'on, George, let's pull this together!

Now, there's that 10-year contract but if it's like most contracts it protects them and not him. Even if they paid him out that'd be a small loss compared to losing what they specifically purchased from Bell, years back. They purchased a property with a known number of listeners and that's being dissolved by Noory. If you had purchased that you'd want to not only see a return on the investment but also be able to grow it. I don't think that's happening. I think, with internet streaming, that they see a kind of snapshot to what's happening. They don't need to wait for Arbitron. They can look at the load on their servers and see the listeners drop off.

I think Noory is on his way out and he may make a court case out of it and settle for an undisclosed amount but I don't think he'll be at the helm a year or two down the road. Even now it kind of looks like they're grooming someone to replace him with the new guest hosts. It used to be Noory + Knapp + Punnett and that was it. Now they're cycling people through and testing them out.

Upon listening to the Paulides podcast this afternoon (well, part of it), I've come to the conclusion: I'm done listening to Noory. Even a subject that interests me like what Paulides brought to the table was ruined by what sounded like Noory sound-bites edited in with Paulides. It's like someone, not Noory, was sitting on a keyboard and snickering while pressing a key to say, "Jeez..." or "What are the ages of those involved?"

It sounded so forced, disjointed, coached, odd. If it were Noory's second broadcast ever then I'd say, "Good going!" It's not. It's not good going. It's horrible crap. I'll watch for Knapp and Schrader (though I just prefer his own show) but even there the subject matter is new age weirdness instead of something interesting.

Quote from: BattyBrooke on March 11, 2014, 12:46:40 PM
Paulides was on?!?!?!! I haven't listened in at least 6 months, now I missed my fav guest of all time. What was the date he was on so I can try and find it on youtube or some such place...?

Last night / This morning. (March 10-11, 2014)

This show was also good:
Dyatlov Pass Incident
Sunday November 17, 2013
Author and investigative researcher Keith McCloskey joined George Knapp for a discussion about what happened to the nine well-trained skiers & hikers who lost their lives in the mysterious "Dyatlov Pass Incident," which took place...
Host: George Knapp
Guest(s): Keith McCloskey

Quote from: VtaGeezer on March 11, 2014, 10:16:27 AM
I turned on the second hour with Paulides.  Sounded like Paulides' cue cards vs. The Dull One's cue cards to me.   I thought it was blatantly scripted.  Even the scripted LMH avoids the kind of fake back & forth during her reading that Noory & Paulides were doing.  I agree with who ever said that Paulides was repeating the same material for the third time.  I suspect he's on with Noory because Knapp cut him loose until he has something new.  He's making a big deal about disappearance from over 50 years ago, when forensics were primitive and the national parks and forests were overseen by park rangers and rural sheriffs with virtually no formal criminal law enforcement training.  Last night clearly demonstrated the No.2 flaw with C2C (after Noory); good guests too go stale if they have nothing new to say.

Yeah, it did sounds a bit like rehearsed cue-card stuff and it seemed a bit rehashed.

"What's the case of..." - cue card, and Paulides responds appropriately.

The producers may be having Paulides on with Noory and doing the cue card bit because they know Noory is tanking and want to force a good show. That would make sense to me.

C2C may own the night time but that doesn't mean anything if radios are off. If you're a broadcaster being forced to carry C2C because you want to have Rush on in the afternoon, if the radios are going off then you have a pretty good argument against that bundling.

One thing I hate is that all of the guests must be coasted to respond

Quote from: wr250 on March 11, 2014, 09:55:23 AM
and tonights show illuminati in the 1st half  and quantum physics ties into consciousness in the 2nd. should be good for a few portal and angel cracks by noory.

I'll pass until something interesting shows up again. I almost passed on Paulides because of Noory..

Quote from: valdez on March 11, 2014, 05:49:13 AM
     David Paulides said he didn't want to "fly off the handle" with theories (on the missing kids) that he had no evidence for, which, in George's twelve year old brain, means that Yeti, Sasquatch, aliens, and portals are all in play.  The "pilots screaming" comment with Jack Cashill was disgraceful.  While I haven't heard many recordings of a pilot's last moments, every single one that I have heard has only demonstrated their professionalism.  Some people, George, walk this earth with a dignity you shall never fathom.

There were several times in that interview where Noory would say something dumb like, "Do you think it's Bigfoot traveling through time snatching kids?" (not exact quote but something along those lines), and then there'd be a long pause as if Paulides was saying to himself, "WTF? Ok.. Don't be an asshole and show how stupid this question was... You're here to sell books. Just answer the question in the most polite way possible.."

Although, you have to give Noory credit on this on as he was paying attention.. Just didn't have much intelligent to add to it. It really was like a 12yo doing an interview.

I suspect Noory will ruin it with stupid questions.

If it were Knapp it'd likely be pretty good.

Quote from: EarthAlien007 on March 06, 2014, 08:55:46 PM
sNooron finally did it. 
He's got David Paulides on Monday.
Poaching Knapp's guests now...?

I thought Knapp did quite well with Paulides. I'm not looking forward to Noory interviewing him. I'll probably listen because David Paulides and the Missing Persons stuff is great 2AM stuff.

Maybe Noory will be interested/involved. Not likely, but maybe.

I'm pretty sure I know the possible outcomes, though:
likely: Noory asks Ralph Wiggim questions.
unlikely: Noory is interested/involved in the interview and asks reasonable questions. In this scenario, which is really the best one can hope for, I still see my mind thinking after, "OK, Noory, that was better than average but Knapp is still so much better." I don't see Noory out-shining Knapp on this.