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Ya know based on what I read, it doesn't sound like you knew that he actually hosted C2C last night as an emergency replacement. He did, and he did very well if I may say so.

Welcome. You'll love it....I like the mixture of personalities on here, though we are all linked by one common threat, Nooryism.

This guy's voice is like a combination of Punnett and Knapp...I kid you not. I also think he just said "aboot".

I think the other guy was so shocked about the outburst that he declared "I'm not saying whether torture is right or wrong.".

He grows on me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEtFMj6ZiHM#ws

I thought it was going to be an interview of himself. I know he'd like that.

QuoteI personally don't think he would. But you never know. Just wondering what your thoughts are.

From what I've read elsewhere and here as well, Mr Bell would rather spend his time with his new family, and he is kinda tired of doing it full-time anyway. Either way good food hasn't tasted the same since.

Quote from: pkaI'm curious. How are any of those statements about Palin false, bob?

It's the assumption that people on the left dislike those who've found success, that is what I disagree with. I'm living proof that it isn't true.

Quote from: Centurion73I have no issue or dislike for you and if I came off as anything other than that I apologize for that, I just think we should discuss the issues that is all.

Cool like the other side of the pillow. Perhaps we just disagree on what actually constitutes an issue with regards to this administration.

Quote from: Centurion73

Quote from: bobcollumI just think it is pointless to fritter away valuable time by discovering all of these articles

If that were the case Mr. bob (I assume it to be Mr.) I would argue that history would be a moot point

That is one big jump. Bottom-line, we apparently disagree on when it is prudent to begin assessments of a current administration, as this thread's comments seem to follow a similar path to the previous thread from a couple weeks back. Fair enough...but all of these trivial issues will be just that, trivial, when the overall results are viewed in the future.

"Why can't people spend more time trying to fix the system instead of getting lost in the pursuit of figuring out who to blame."

  -bobcollum, third-party supporter extrordinaire

The selection of Palin was one of the most obvious ploys i've ever witnessed in politics. In the long run it ruined McCain's chances, among other things.

QuoteIn fact, the left despised Palin - probably because she was a young, good looking, successful mother.

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These were some of his topics from January shows:

Quote6    01/20/09 12 AM - COUNTDOWN TO ARMAGEDDON: ONE HOUR SPECIAL
7    01/19/09 11PM - Is An Imposter About To Be Inaugurated?    
8    01/16/09 10PM - THE TALL WHITES INSIDE AREA 51
9    01/15/09 11:30PM - INTERSPECIES TELEPATHIC COMMUNICATION
10    01/15/09 12:30 AM - THE DINOSAUR HUNTER
11    01/15/09 10PM - TOWARDS A CASHLESS SOCIETY    
12    01/14/09 11:30PM - OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCES    
13    01/14/09 10PM - MAGNETIC REVERSALS
14    01/13/09 11 PM - PAST LIFE REGRESSION
15    01/13/09 - 10 PM - BACKSTAGE IN THE GLOBAL THEATRE    
16    01/13/09 12:30AM - COUNTDOWN TO ARMAGEDDON
17    01/12/09 11:30 PM -11:30PM PARANORMAL EXPERIMENT: SOLVING A CHICAGO MURDER CASE FROM 1923
18    01/12/09 10 PM - THE SHIFT TO HYDROGEN
19    01/08/09 10 PM - THINGS SCIENCE CAN'T EXPLAIN    
20    01/09/09 11:30 PM - STATE OF THE UNION

Maybe this guy can steal the job from Snoory? I'm already assuming he is much better, as his face on the site is only half of what Snoor's is.

QuoteI am so ESL.

I think your initial feeling on the title was appropriate, its still what I think, though i've been told otherwise.

Quote from: RecoveringNoorholic on April 23, 2009, 11:03:01 PM
lol - not edgar caycee!

  Oops. lol

Quote4. Edgar Mitchell

I wouldn't be able to eat if there was a ghost in the room.

Obviously, Art Bell to start.

I'd go with a science theme, Michio Kaku, Charles Seife, Seth Shostak, ooh...and recent first-time guest Bill Nye. Sweet.

I don't really want to hang with anyother staff members, besides this way it's like my idea of a perfect c2c show, live at the dinner table.

Quote from: Centurion73He knew what he was getting into running for President, how he can blame not prosecuting the people who sanctioned torture is beyond my limited thinking.

I just came across this little bit from an article on the la times site. Biased news source? Absolutely, but this part sounds like logical reasoning, with the mindset that the ends justify the means, not 'change' in a DC sense:

QuoteNow, with the president must consider the release of new materials that could be inflammatory and heighten the already combustible mix of political pressures he faces. Though the liberal base that elected him wants wide disclosure and an investigation of Bush practices, pursuing that course would likely alienate the intelligence and military communities that are crucial to Obama's success as president.

Obama tried to walk that rhetorical line last week, heeding liberals' calls to release the torture memos but appearing to argue against further investigation or prosecution by saying that " "this is a time for reflection, not retribution."

Instead, he managed to anger both constituencies.

"My sense is the president was trying to please a lot of audiences at one time and that over the last [week] he has totally failed to put the mind of the intelligence community at ease," said Mark Lowenthal, a former senior advisor to CIA Director George J. Tenet. "He is going to end up with a national clandestine service that will not be willing to do anything because they feel he will not be there for them when they need him."

What are you gonna do? People love that two-party system...

Quote from: Centurion73 on April 23, 2009, 09:36:05 PM
I have posted before March but was giving the man a chance to do what he said he would do and see how he would act it did not take long. I gave him credit for OK'ing the final order to take out the pirates or did you not read that one.

Whoa cowboy, I meant I joined the site in March, so I haven't fully grasped your political affiliations, and I've tried to discern from what I've read in the past month. And I read your post which credited Obama in the pirate fiasco...you and everyone else in the country.

QuoteI am not a misquided child for serving my country that gave me great rights and opportunities and I am sorry that you think that way but I fought for you too if you are a citizen.

Again, whoa! Did you just skim through my post? I'm pretty sure it contained 'respect in a serious way'. Secondly, Uncle Sam's Misguided Children is an acronym for USMC, and I guess you've never heard that one...calm down big fella.

QuoteI do not see how I am being one sided by pointing out he has said one thing then does another, claims these are the rules then changes the rules. I am just pointing out that he is a politician and not the person who ran for president in "57" states.

When are they? Its like I said, do it if you please, I just think its over-stating the obvious, and most people who go to that extent usually have a stronger motive than just innocently holding random politicians accountable. Again, my opnion.

QuoteI do not ask him nor anyone to be perfect but I do expect him to be cognizant and truthful not Bush 44 that he is appearing to turn into.

That kind of talk is way too premature imo. Besides, I doubt we've seen the end of negative results from the last 8 years of botched policy.

Quote from: Pirate King Atomsk on April 23, 2009, 05:37:18 PM
I can see that you're a very reasonable fellow, bob. Kudos on that.

Could I get that in writing? There are a few ex-girlfriends I'd like to show it to.

QuoteI would just like to point out though, in Limbaugh's defense, that he actually condemned the Bush administration on several occasions. He didn't believe that it's policies reflected those of Reagan's admin enough. He often called them "faux republicans". As many things as Limbaugh has praised Bush on, he's given plenty of "beat downs" to Bush AND Senator McCain during his campaign. That's why I listen to him. Sure, he leans right - but he'll call out the right when they don't follow their own foundational policies.

Its all true, so true. Especially the yearning to return to the conservative orgasm known as the 80's...military spending was through the roof, national pride and spirit were soaring like an eagle, and Springsteen was "Born In the USA", not a pinko commie. I think Reagan did the things he did because the situation at the time allowed him to do so, and he was able to appease his base more than most Presidents ever have, but that almost never happens(Clinton did well with this too), and is less likely everyday things go downhill. Reagan's legacy has become a fish tale of sorts....it keeps getting bigger, or more grand everytime its told. Bottom line to me, it seems impractical to base your ideas for the future on pleasant memories from the past, especially when they were a merely a product of their times. Oh, these pundits....Glen Beck sometime last week, closes his show with a mock obituary for "common sense" that a viewer sent in. Only problem was common sense tells me that claiming that to be a new trend is so intellectually dishonest.

Some people can handle it, most give it more factual credibility than it deserves. They don't have all the time in the world to conduct thourough research on what they hear, and I can understand that, but it is scary how many people I've met who literally admit that they get the majority of their news intake from watching Bill O'Reilly. Not surprisingly, they share many of his thoughts and sentiments...except probably the womanizing, short-temper, and overall sense of hypocrisy.

QuoteDo they even do U.S. tours?

Well like I said, I saw them in Providence RI in '03...www.j-tull.com/tourdates/index.html]I just checked their site[/url], and they don't seem to have plans to come here, though Ian Anderson will be doing a solo tour in the fall. They'll come around again, I'd bet.

I was absolutely wasted when I was there, yet I still remember it quite vividly...a very memorable experience.

Quote from: Pirate King Atomsk on April 21, 2009, 09:42:04 PM
Well, Jethro Tull was passed down to me from my Dad - along with Rush, AC/DC, Boston, ect. So when I was a kid it seemed old, but as I got older I realized that pretty much everyone cool came out in the 70's. Lol.

  Same here with some mid to late 60's as well...I listen to that more than anything new for the most part. Things just aren't the same.

And I saw Tull in 2003. The instrument tuning wasn't dropped and the tempo wasn't slowed. All in all it kicked ass.

Quote from: scooter on April 21, 2009, 06:03:42 PM
Yeah I'll agree the website looks like shit! But does anyone else notice the confidence behind that smile, sorta reminds me of an old school pimp.

He was probably reveling in the fact that he has already smeared his image across C2C more than Art Bell ever did, but then I'd also assume that Snoory thinks that everyone else is in this disturbing competition that only exists in the mind of a full-blown narsicist.

 

QuoteThe guy who gave $69. Congratulations, John Kornachuk of Victorville, California. You are the one and only person immature enough to make a donation for $69.

And it was in SUPPORT of Prop 8. You decided that nothing goes with homophobia quite as well as a joke that kills with 7th graders. That's just embarrassing.

Quote from: Centurion73 on April 23, 2009, 12:24:13 PM
I hate to use the term "founders" but they were quiet vigilant and diligent in when, why, where, and HOW a Federal government should and would act.

Agreed, but the American people have not held up their end of the responsibility, and it is only now, when it it is personally detrimental(in the wallet) that many wake up and smell reality, but the hostility is misdirected and for the most part seems to beat to the drum of whomever your pundit of choice may be, which is just stupid. I've said for years now that the likes of Rush, Hannity, etc...are absolutely without a doubt 50% correct...Democrats are no good, but they can't seem to extend the same criticism to the Republican side, because they are very much aligned with the philosophy, thus principal trumps absolute truth. Don't get me wrong, it happens on the other side in the same fashion but there are undoubtedly far more pundits who have nationally syndicated radio/tv programs to choose from on the right.

These people have one major thing in common with the politicians they critique or admire, they want to have a long career, and the ends always seems to justify the means for both groups. The citizens give all of them creedence by way of acknowledgment, ratings or votes, as if there is no other way. Everyone needs to reconfigure their perspectives.

I just think it is pointless to fritter away valuable time by discovering all of these articles displaying Obama's inability to be perfect, seeing as how the very idea is nothing more than a manifestation of a feeling of acheivement by the left and a feeling of bitter disapointment from the right. My personal opinion? Based on how one-sided you seem I think they got in your head a little bit, but then, i've also never read any posts from you before March of this year. I mean that in the most civil way possible, I read somewhere that you were a Marine, and I respect that in a serious way. I know and love several of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children, and they've all earned the right to complain, but it doesn't mean they're always right(no, not like Obama).

 

omfg that dude sure knows Mario Bros.

It was too funny to be real but too in-depth to be fake.

Wow, if only everyone in this country could've been so dilligent over the past 150 years, we wouldn't be in a quarter of the mess we're in now.

Better late than never?

Quote from: RecoveringNoorholic on April 23, 2009, 02:27:10 AM
I love Michio Kaku but he goes over the same material in each appearance on C2CAM.

I love George Knapp but I don't like how he goes to break like a FM radio DJ; why does he announce the song names and artists of the bumper music?

lol I noticed that about Knapp too, funny observation.

Package received yesterday, no problems, and I just won't send them any money from now on.

Case closed, or something.

Well, at least there is an opportunity for some site shout-outs.

I tend to skip the open-line themed shows anyway...I'd just assume Snoors does them but what the hell.

This is the link to the timelime he frequently referenced during the show. PDF file btw, 32 pages of good reading.

Quotesomething about C2C fed my imagination for the midwest and deserts of America. I liked to listen, especially when Art hosted, because it gave me a taste of "that part of America" where they look up at the sky and wonder.

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean by this...I want to go out there, stare at the stars, listen to C2C, and look for UFOs. I get sick of being constantly surrounded by marks of human civilization, even at night, when I see a fraction of the stars that should be there because of all the damn lights.  I'll get out there someday, though probably not to live, but who knows?

QuoteSome heads probably blew to the sky.

He does have that new crud of a demographic that seems to be fueling most of the shows(and probably streamlink subscriptions)...right-wing militants.

I think I'm going to listen to it again.