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Quote from: Juan Cena on May 23, 2016, 10:34:43 PM
I can understand the lack of interest in topics. The paranormal well has all but about run dry, with guests repeating the same stuff over and over again.

Maybe it's time to transition the show from paranormal to just interesting topics. Guests can range from talking about the economy, nutrition, entertainment, etc.

Quote from: aldousburbank on May 23, 2016, 10:27:50 PM
Where've you been dude?

The state of mitd depressed me so much I couldn't bring myself to hang out here haha! Jokes aside, I'm looking for some people to edit files for a torrent release. Get all the 2015 art bell stuff out there...

Quote from: rekcuf on May 23, 2016, 10:29:07 PM
Just this hour? So, if this hour was axed, the show would be good?

Ok I'll admit that I haven't listened to an entire show since the switch to 5 hours. Combination of less driving for work and less interest in topics. My routine has been listen live from the beginning until the black eyed guy comes on, then switch to an old art bell stream.

I hate this guy and his stupid stories. This hour of open lines is killing the show.

I never really liked late night in the midlands, it was pretty boring. It seemed like it always ended up with the host going on long monologues about stuff that didn't matter to anyone.

Quote from: Royal_Tenenbaum on December 16, 2015, 08:38:20 AM
Part of me says no news, but you gotta leave it in. If you hear it years later it's kind of neat to remember what was going on it the world. I love hearing old news segments from classic shows.

I totally agree with what you're getting at, but the news segments really weren't that up on current events. My favorite classic shows are the ones with the old news segments and Art's news briefing at the beginning.

Quote from: Ciardelo on December 12, 2015, 10:28:47 AM
aac/m4a - Raw uncut 3 hour show with everything please for me.

Great cause that's super easy to edit! haha!

Quote from: Ciardelo on December 12, 2015, 09:19:49 AM
I'd like the shows intact, music, news, commercials, all of it. I also listen to a lot of OTR and the news and commercials are sometimes the best parts!

I'd like to release the MiTD shows in both mp3 and AAC this time. There is a very distinct difference in quality that I'd like to preserve.

I've been using mp3directcut which allows for lossless mp3 and aac editing to cut commercials and stuff.

Before we go any further, I might keep 3 versions of every show:

mp3 - No commercials, no news, only music
aac/m4a - No commercials, no news, only music
aac/m4a - Raw uncut 3 hour show with everything.

Would that work for most of you? I'd estimate total size would be around 25-30gb.

Quote from: Ciardelo on December 11, 2015, 08:48:58 PM
:::sigh::: Damnit. Are you going to be adding in the "new" lost classics that were broadcast recently?

Yes I've been contacted by someone who has been getting those shows, the update will include both old and new shows.

Welp, time to start editing the past few months worth of shows. Expect an update to the mega torrent soon. Rats.

Doesn't sound good whatever it is..... I hope it's not related to guns in any way. It seems liken they've been having a lot of weird issues with tresspasing on their property.

The show has been on for a while now and I'm just really curious what kind of listenership Art is getting online. I've noticed that there doesn't seem to be a drought of callers each night. 5000 per night? 10,000?

I know that Art/Keith/etc have numbers, I wonder if they'll ever share them.

Still feels like christmas every night. Can't believe we're getting new shows every night :O

Hope its another great show, Art seems to be getting a lot of interesting guests. Nothing stupid either, like "Visitations from Angels" or "Colloidal Silver Secrets". These are the good old days, I hope everyone can appreciate it 

Quote from: MV on July 30, 2015, 03:46:30 PM
If you don't have an RSS feed, then you don't have a podcast.  You're just pasting links to audio files on a page and password protecting it.  The current setup is, frankly, dog shit.

I get it.  Keith is busy.  He has a lot on his plate.  Totally understood.  However, getting the show to the listener is paramount.  Nothing is more important than that.

This right here. They should be pushing the podcast like mad, that's how you really get big. But it isn't even a podcast right now haha.

Quote from: cweb on July 30, 2015, 06:59:58 AM
Purely speculation here....

I'm guessing that the podcasts are kept at the quality they are to keep the file sizes smaller, storage more affordable, and downloads less time-consuming for subscribers. Adding another high-quality download might cost either time or money they don't want to spend. The philosophy may be that offering two different qualities would be redundant for the majority of listeners- and that switching to AAC-only offers less compatibility across the board. (Yes, AAC has a lot of supported devices nowadays, but mp3 is supported by everything.)

Quality may be another reason why some folks have elected to record the show on their own, snagging the AAC+ version of it. However, at least one poster on here said that he had poor luck with recording the AAC stream due to reliability issues.

You could argue that we're not talking that much space here, but across however many subscribers and however many shows, it might add up.

The beauty of AAC is that it uses the same amount of bandwidth/space as mp3 with better quality. The only reason I can think that they don't offer the download as mp3 or m4a/aac is because it would require 2x as much editing.  I really do hope that the downloads get better.. My archiving failed again last night due to streaming issues.

Quote from: Meister_000 on July 24, 2015, 09:07:22 PM
Ouch!  Thanks for the corrections and links. And I am surprised to learn that.

Sorry if I came off as rude, I guess I was more tired than I thought! Don't feel bad, all of this stuff is confusing lol.

There's a lot of misinformation in this thread.

First, TuneIn has no infrastructure for the streaming stations, its simply an easy way to connect to online streams. You'll get the same server whether you go through tunein or just the direct link.

Second, the 40,000 people are referring to on TuneIn is the amount of people following the station. TuneIn doesn't publish numbers of people listening live. Darkmatter has 42,500 "followers" currently http://tunein.com/radio/Dark-Matter-Digital-Network-s211941/

Honestly, I'd be surprised if they release numbers. I am 100% sure that they have a VERY good idea of how many people are streaming, their stream host provides a lot of analytics and data to their customers. Anybody remember the snafu about keeping track of how many people are listening for the music licensing costs? Here's the data that I'm sure they have access to http://www.streamguys.com/statistics/webcastmetrics.php ..

I've got a quick update:

First, my AAC recordings have been failing nearly every night. The process that I use to record the stream crashes whenever the stream drops. So I'm going to try to get a fix for that. The mp3 recordings are fine, each one is 78mb. I guess less people are hitting the mp3 stream (good!)

Second: I am not and will not sharing these recordings. I assume most people on here will not be either if they record the stream for archival purposes. I think you're all seeing that I wasn't crazy when I thought it'd be a good idea to get the raw stream, not just rely on podcasts. 

Quote from: NXOEED on July 19, 2015, 10:41:07 PM
this dude sounds like Saladfingers.

Dark Matter news? interesting..

Quote from: jazmunda on July 19, 2015, 10:08:16 PM
(REDACTED)!

I'd recommend listening to the AAC stream if you can, it has REALLY good quality. No timeouts that I'm aware of, I've had my internet radio running for 12+ hours on Dark Matter lately and it doesn't ever drop.

Quote from: Skunk Ape on July 19, 2015, 09:45:39 AM
I'm sorry to be the lazy one and not search for this, but has it been stated if the test show tonight will be offered as the first podcast? Should I plan to record it myself? For my own personal consumption, of course.

I'll be recording it for sure.

Quote from: cweb on July 17, 2015, 07:23:42 AM
If someone is paying to support the show and keeping any recordings (podcast or stream) to themselves, I don't see the problem.

The real benefit to doing any of this archival, I think, is for when the show is no longer available or is locked behind some evil radio conglomerate's paywall.

I'll be paying the monthly fee for a while and probably downloading the podcasts as well. Notice that I used the word "Archiving" in the title, this is for preservation of the show. I'd like it to be available somewhere in its raw format for future fans to enjoy. I won't be sharing these files though.

Hey guys,


As you know I really like collecting Art Bell shows. I'll be archiving both the mp3 and aac stream each night, and I'd like to make sure a few others will be too. I know there will be a podcast, but I'd like to capture the show as it airs.  Anybody else going to join me?

wow those are both really great!

some talented people on here... 

Quote from: laserjock on April 18, 2015, 01:16:03 PM
Ah, see there, I wasn't being an idiot.

Yup, working now, thank you!  Nobody likes to be told they are stupid when that is obviously not what the problem is.  Anyone calling you dumb will make you cranky when they don't know and accuse you of something wrong.

Glad its working again, i'll be more careful next time when modifying stuff I guess lol.

Sorry to everyone expriencing trouble with u7 on tunein.. I made some DNS changes. Long story short, the relay no longer "existed" on the internet lol. It should be coming back now.

Edit: Here's my bandwidth usage for the month. Its pretty obvious when it was no longer accessible

Looks like its straight out of the 90s lol

Quote from: MV on March 06, 2015, 09:02:17 PM
your avatar photo... what's that from?

asking the tough questions lol


but yeah.. that pic is gorgeous