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QuoteHas anyone heard the flashword going around the Knapp and Art are planning a 2012 special?

LOL! That would be a hoot hearing all the callers claiming that every flash of "heat" lightning or the rumbling of a distant train or a weird cloud formation is the harbinger of the cataclysm to come.

"Art? Art? I'm out here in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, and I just saw the sky light up like a fireworks display. Do you think it's starting, Art? I'm betting it's beginning! I also think I saw a UFO during the flash. In fact, now that I think of it, I DID see a UFO! It HAS started! Okay, Art, I need to go. I haven't put all the supplies into my shelter yet ... *click* Bzzzzzzzzzzz ....

Art: "Well, I suppose now we all know that the end of the world has begun in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma *chuckles*  East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Art Bell. Hi!"

Caller: "I told you it was those Canadians and homosexuals! I told you they would rot in a pit of sewage with, with, with bugs and, and, and spiders. How DARE you encourage this filth, Mr. Bell. You are the devil's mouthpiece and I am here to tell you about the New Revelation. I am sinless and YOU, Mr. Bell, are full of sin and ...

Art: "Hello, JC ..."

QuoteHe's the biggest turd in the bowl.

And someone forgot to flush.

QuoteNoory's latest promo: "It's my job to bring you the truth".

QuoteJust to continue the balance, here's my nickel's worth.  Ian's off-topics are too far afield for the Coast audience.

Agreed, though it's not just Ian. Even more than the ineptitude of Mustache Mouth, drifting away from more traditional C2C subjects pushed me away from the show. I realize that C2C often has a different "take" on political and mainstream topics, but that "take" is nothing new or even all that radical. Back in the old days, Ian pretty much covered most of the religious and many of the spiritual topics - few of which I'm interested in - so I rarely ever listened when Ian was host.

I even enjoyed listening to people like Hoagland back in the day. Even if your logical mind was screaming bullshit, the part of you that wanted to believe was sufficiently titillated.

I've only heard one or two of Icke's shows. I always skipped them since the conspiracy theory genre wasn't my cup of tea. Now I regret missing them.

I think all the hosts have their darling guests and sacred cows.

*click* *recorded voice*

I'm sorry I can't answer the forum right now as I am currently being raptured. Since I will be busy merging with heaven for quite some time, it is unlikely I will be returning your message within the foreseeable future.

Hey, I can see my house from here!

*beep*

QuoteNow that Quinn's here, does everybody want to dose?

No, but I will jump for joy. I just have to be careful not to land on any pigeons that are running to him.

I miss this forum too.

Sent from space shuttle Endeavor.

I hate to say it since I am a solid believer in the UFO phenomenon, but the Roswell "disk" is exactly what the Air Force said it was: some sort of balloon.

What turned me away from Roswell was the fact that no machinery or tech was found at all. Not even a screw, wire, or diode. I find it difficult to believe that a space traveling civilization would have ships that consisted of nothing but "memory metal" and an I beam. Something isn't right.

QuoteLiberals are notoriously unfunny in my opinion

*blink blink*  Seriously?

As for Hannity, I don't listen to him very often, but whenever I do, he has a nasty tendency to shut down liberal or Democrat callers, especially those who disagree with him.

Caller: "Hello, Mr. Hannity. I consider myself a liberal and ..."

Hannity: *rants right over the caller, hangs up, and then makes snarky comments about the caller once the caller is no longer on the air and can defend himself*

Just tell George that you were so inspired by his book, Worker in the Light, that you are writing a follow up called Deadbeat in the Darkness. If he asks you for the premise of the book, you can - in a subtle way - explain that it's about a lazy nighttime radio talk show host named Scourge Boori who trashed a very entertaining radio show. The book will be filled to bursting with angels, portals, clothes-wearing ghosts, hospital patients receiving amnesia by amnesiologists, and urine shrouds. 

Alex Jones is someone that must be taken with a moon-sized "grain" of salt. Sometimes I'll listen to him and think, "Yeah, I've been saying the same thing for years ..." and then he'll spoil it with an overdose of hyperbole and fallacious statements.

The guy seems correct so often because he seamlessly integrates his opinions in with facts so that only the more astute listeners realize when the former leaves off and the latter begins. Endemic to all conspiracists is to state some facts which are irrefutable and then interpret what those facts mean; the interpretations are often either incorrect or completely unverifiable. However, a lot of people make the assumption that, because Fact A is irrefutably true, Interpretation A is also irrefutably true. It is the kissing cousin of the False Dilemma Fallacy.

For instance, the issue on FEMA camps. Do camps exist? Certainly. Are they operated by the government? Absolutely. Is there supporting documents? You betcha. However, the mere existence of FEMA camps does, in no way, support his argument that the government plans to round up ordinary citizens who oppose the NWO and put them into those camps. The latter is pure speculation, but too many people fail to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Another thing that has irritated me about Alex Jones is how he rants endlessly about all of these horrible things that are on the edge of occurring. Invariably, some caller will dial in and ask the BIG question:  "What can I do to help stop the nefarious evil-doings of the elitists?"

At this point, the vociferous, loquacious Alex Jones suddenly acts like a geek who just had the hottest girl in school ask him to the prom. His answer is always, "Well, just keep informed. Just by knowing about this information will [somehow] make a difference."  In other words, keep listening to his show, keep buying his products, and it wouldn't hurt to buy a few things from his sponsors, too.

I find him worth listening to, though, because he's not perfectly imperfect. I do think he does get it right from time to time, just not nearly as often as he and his fans think he does.

QuoteOf course you could always call Art, he doesn't use screeners.... Oh wait!

I actually did call into the show some years ago and managed to talk to the Art Man himself. I was shocked as the phone rang perhaps twice before Art picked up. In fact, I was so caught off guard that I stammered out the first few words, promptly got annoyed with myself, which caused a few more stammered words ...

I don't remember who the guest was that night, but I remember the topic had something to do about UFOs and why they played cat and mouse games with humanity. I had my own pet theory on it, and Art was gracious enough to let me summarize it ... and then something hit me:

Art had NOT said his usual, "First time caller line, you're on the air. Hi." So I stopped in mid-sentence to ask, "Errr, am I on the air?"

And I wasn't. It was the damned commercial break! Since Art is always pounding it into the audience to "turn your radio off," I had done exactly that just before dialing and failed to realize the show was heading into a break.

I did get to talk to Art for a few minutes, though, so that was pretty nifty.

 

Heh, I had that song running through my head the moment I saw your name, Quinn. I wanted to make a comment immediately, but forced myself to keep reading posts before I did. Thus I avoided the, "Ha! Look how witty I am ... oh wait ..." embarrassment of repeating what someone else already said.

QuoteThen they put it up and pasted bumper stickers all over it.  Such a shame.  I wrote an email to Lex, but that's a waste of finger energy.

I knew it was all over when I received a pop-up ad squarely in the middle of my monitor that I had to close manually. That is the surest sign of a website selling out to its sponsors while ignoring the consumers.

Quote from: The General on January 11, 2011, 09:49:23 PMNot only was the content  dumbed down on an intellectual level but actually spoken in a manner similar to  how some people speak to children.  It's insulting.

A very perceptive analysis. My mother was a special education teacher for over 20 years, and one cannot talk to these children in the same way one can talk to a "normal" child. Because she spent so much of her time around children with weaker intelligences, that cadence, pronunciation and voice inflexion that you mentioned became a part of her. My mother routinely began to talk to my father, myself, her friends, even the order-taker at McDonald's in the same way she would talk to her "special" children. It really grated on our nerves, especially when my mother would over-explain even the simplest of tasks because that was what she was used to.

Therefore, when I began hearing George more often, it instantly clicked:  He talks to the audience the way my mother talks to her family or the way a special education teacher would talk to her class. It is polite to the point of condescension and extremely "milquetoasty."  Art had a much rougher edge and I enjoyed that, but George would be better served hosting Romper Room. I can see him looking through his magic mirror and saying, "Hoagland, and Dames and Linda Howell, I have a medicine that is good for your bowel!"

When did I turn on George? Fact is, I never really cared for him to begin with, and I rarely listened to weekend shows while Art was at the helm. But what clued me into the disaster that was about to unfold was how desperate Art sounded as he tried to convince us that "George is someone who gets it."  Remember that? Art was always saying that George "gets it."

Personally I think Art knew even then that George did not, in fact, "get it" and poor Art also understood that, to save his beloved show, he would have to butter our bread a little and put a spit polish on that turd. As Art gushed about George during his final months, it sounded suspiciously like he was trying to convince himself as much as the audience that George really would make a good host.

The second strike occurred when George deliberately and consistently ignored the members of the official Coast to Coast forum and heaped praise and shout-outs onto the Fantastic Forum. Way to diss your paying customers, George! I know a lot of people began to turn on Noory at this point. Quite often George would feature questions and comments posted at the Fantastic Forum but never gave the official forum even a glance. That was infuriating.

Yet I continued to listen through the years, though I was far more surgically selective in choosing which shows to listen to. At least the content and the guests hadn't changed much.

But the coup de grace came when I began to realize that the focus of the show was changing to a more mainstream format. There were tons of shows on mundane politics, global issues like terrorism and environmentalism, economics, and worse still, interviews with guests that had nothing to do with the esoteric. The show began to feel more like NPR or a television talk show. Gee, George, why are you interviewing minor or has-been celebrities about their showbiz careers?

In addition, his bias for certain subjects like conspiracies, End Times, and consciousness/spiritualism really began to affect the content of the show. If it wasn't an interview with a political talking head or an expert on economics, it was another nutjob ranting about the End Times, Revelations, the Bible, and tying every raindrop and thunderclap in with our impending doom.

I didn't unsubscribe to Streamlink or quit in a huff. I simply stopped listening little by little until I didn't even bother checking the C2C website anymore. My subscription had lapsed months ago and I never even noticed.

I recently re-upped my subscription since enough classic shows have piled up to make the $7 worth paying, but once I've exhausted the classic shows, I'll probably cancel it for another 6 months or so.

I'm sure many of Noory listeners these days have a lot of cats to feed, and Meow Mix doesn't come cheap. It's no wonder scams actually make money by advertising on this show. Does George even promote the Crane radio anymore? At least that was a real product and not some looney-toons survivalist cache. Given Noory's penchant for preaching about the End Times, buying anything from him is like buying Wolf Insurance from the Little Boy Who Cried Wolf.

Hello, everyone.

Like perry, I'm also new here, but not new to the C2C community. For quite some time now I've occasionally vented my frustration over Noory's show to anyone with the patience to listen (and most of my "victims" never even listened to C2C) thus it is good to see that I'm not alone in this. When I first began reading the recent pages on this thread, I was casually slouched in my chair with the keyboard on my lap. After reading a few posts, I found myself sitting up a bit straighter. A few more posts and I was really sitting up and paying attention. Two pages later and I'm leaning toward the monitor with the keyboard back on the desk. By the time I was done, I was nodding my head in agreement without even realizing it, muttering, "Yep ... yes ... exactly ... uh huh ..." under my breath.

I now feel far more vindicated in my opinion of where the show has gone, and like some of you here, I allowed my subscription to Streamlink lapse almost a year ago. The regular guests that I loved to hear stopped appearing. The subjects that interested me the most stopped being discussed (with any regularity). And Noory's "empty suit" style of interviewing left me wanting to wrap the nearest radio antenna around his neck.

I'm not all that interested in "The End Times" because people have been blathering this nonsense for the last 2,000 years, and considering we're all still here, their predictions thus far have a 100% failure rate. Little boys and wolves come to mind here, if you know what I mean, and I stopped listening many moons ago. I'm pretty tired of fluffy shows on "consciousness" and "new states of being" and tapping into the "powers of our soul." But more than anything else, I got sick of seeing 75% of the shows being about politics, economics, terrorism, and interviews with law enforcement figures and third rate celebrities. There's a Bio channel on my television for a reason and I don't tune in to C2C to hear about the life and times of Billy Ray Bob the country singer with one song that made it to 27 on the charts. I'm not interested in an interview with a writer from The Twilight Zone and I'm not interested in hearing about arrests some FBI agent made - at least not on this show.

Now, I don't expect every C2C show to be about me and what I want, but gimme a break. Another nails-on-chalkboard irritant for me is when Noory says to a guest, "Tell us a little more about you. How did you get into this subject?" Art Bell simply rattled off the guest's credentials and dived right into the topic. Art had 5 hours of solid show and he didn't waste it with having the guest give his autobiography. Most of Noory's guests only appear for 1.5 hours and half of that is taken up with George pushing for the guest to prattle on about the banalities of his/her life.

Quote from: Sleepwalker on May 13, 2011, 03:16:14 PM
I was a Streamlink member several years ago.  At the time, your Streamlink membership included access to a forum entitled "Coastriders."

I was a member of that forum (under the same username I use here) and even remember when the forum members got together to come up with the name "Coastriders." By then, though, the show was already taking a nose dive and I logged into the forums less and less. I made a brief return just a week or two before the forums closed and read a lot of the complaints about Noory. Back then I felt bad for the guy, but I don't anymore.

Quote from: valdez on May 14, 2011, 05:14:13 AMintroduces the New Fantastic Forum (of which Noory is a member, lots of people greeting each other, then falling asleep, oh, I'll be nice, I'm sure it's a swell place, my best wishes), but still no shout-out to coastgab.

This used to piss us off on the "Coastrider" forum. Keep in mind, those of us on the "Coastrider" forum were ALL paying customers of Streamlink. We were the official Coast to Coast forum accessed right from the show's homepage. Did George ever give a "shout out" to anyone there? Not to my recollection, though it seemed he had an endless supply of shout outs for "Bad Boy" and the Fantastic Forum. George didn't even post on "Coast Riders" save for a handful of times, and if you strung everything he ever said there together, you would be hard pressed to get a single paragraph. This lack of recognition of his paying customers in favor of a free forum was the beginning stages of "Coastriders" turning on Mr. Noory.

Best wishes, all.