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#211
Public Service Announcement from George... 

Thanks Big Guy


https://youtu.be/AEOJE5i7fMQ
#212
Quote from: Norm on June 23, 2018, 07:53:28 AM
Supplemental Security Income (SSI) will not only debit his monthly payments but he will also become ineligible for Medi-Cal (Totally free health care) until he re-applies and his monthly financial assets drop below $2000. A simple ride in an ambulance today can run from $5000 to $15000 or more depending on circumstances and that would have to be paid out of his pocket and a single visit to the ER could be very expensive.

Mommy's money is nothing more than an advance as it will be reported to the IRS as capitol gains. (His SSA number will get flagged) Once he spends it down he can re-apply for SSI and Medi-Cal. I don't think he's ever made enough earned income from working in his life to qualify for regular social security which SSA payments wouldn't be affected as long as he files a tax return.

Oh the pain....

https://youtu.be/I6F8yqpQ6VM

That's classic George thank you!

Shout outs to the idiot and moron Chefist, Evil Myke and the Crapcast!
#213
Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on June 22, 2018, 11:40:59 PM
Here's an alternative suggestion: own up that you are a retard who entices people to spend money on someone that you had ample prior knowledge was incapable of fulfilling your claimed performance.

Spin it anyway that you like, fuckwad, but you have no moral or legal superiority here.  As in golf, when in trouble, get out of trouble ASAP.

Oh you are just being silly... Im not claiming any "moral or legal superiority'' 

This is a fact finding exercise that could have far reaching implications. Maybe George could have his "crack paralegal team" offering an opinion?
#214
Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on June 22, 2018, 11:24:58 PM
Who gives a fuck?

Are you going to be a faggot or are you going to refund the money?  It's a simple question, and I can already predict your answer:  FAGGOT

I believe we have a somewhat complex legal issue at hand.

1. As "Heaters" then manager and he asked for my advise.  Then he acted on that advice by his own volition, why would I have any responsibility?

2. Questions, is anyone responsible for donation refunds?.

3. If so, who is responsible for brig's 5 bucks?

4. Is interest appropriate if it can be determined that a refund is do her?
#215
Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on June 22, 2018, 11:40:59 PM
Here's an alternative suggestion: own up that you are a retard who entices people to spend money on someone that you had ample prior knowledge was incapable of fulfilling your claimed performance.

Spin it anyway that you like, fuckwad, but you have no moral or legal superiority here.  As in golf, when in trouble, get out of trouble ASAP.

Why do insist on making this a personal?..

Are you trolling me?


https://youtu.be/vqvgOcLqB54
#216
Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on June 22, 2018, 11:24:58 PM
Who gives a fuck?

Are you going to be a faggot or are you going to refund the money?  It's a simple question, and I can already predict your answer:  FAGGOT

I want to do what's right, this could set a precedent for the upcoming annual Bellgabathonâ,,¢ 2018 fund raising podcast this August.

Don't you care about that?

Let yourselves be duly noted by the creation of this thread that the Bellgabathonâ,,¢ 2018 is happening at a date to be announced soon (Probably in August).  It will take a village to pull off another successful 'thon so if you want to contribute this thread will be the planning space for it.

We will form planning committees here and assign tasks to be completed.

First committee to be formed is the voting categories.  I need 4 people to join me (first come first serve) to define the different categories we will be voting on.  We can do some of the same as 2017 but new ones are welcomed as well.

There will be several honorary statuses awarded this year.  The BellGab.comâ,,¢ Hall of Fame opens its doors for the first time and will be inducting 2 members this year!

BellGabber of the Yearâ,,¢ will be awarded by a special select committee rather than voting this year.  We will still have the People's Choice BellGabber of the year but the select committee's choice will hold a spot in the HOF on our memorial stone.  Great news, (Redacted) is busy right now designing the stone!

Use this thread to recommend other committees or if you want to host a segment in the show.  Like last year we will have up to 4 hours of live show with 30 minutes segments hosted by anyone that would like to sit in the chair, groups welcome & you can use your time to take calls, promote your website or podcast...whatever you want.

Don't forget the main purpose is to make this website some money so we look forward to your pre-show donations and live show donations.  Be sure to add a note to your donation that its for the BellGabathonâ,,¢ 2018 so Liberace knows this undertaking is worth the effort
#217
Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on June 22, 2018, 11:12:09 PM
THERE HE GOES AGAIN

WhiteCrone assumes ANOTHER characteristic of Senda: the copypasta of walls of authoritative text, hoping to god that no one actually reads it and asks him what his fuckin argument is in favor (posting the text is enough even for the SCOTUS you know).

WE I ARE ALL AM SENDA

Go choke on a bowl of cocks, slapmeat.

Excuse me!   BUT..Brig has made three different claims that different parties are responsible for refunding her 5 buck GoFundMe donation plus interest.

Is it possible that brig claim for a 5 buck refund plus interest should be directed at a 4th party?  Instead of George, Curtis or myself. GoFundMe may be the correct 4th party to address her grievances. Hence my copy and paste so brig can review the information and make her own decision.
#218
Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on June 22, 2018, 10:58:42 PM
Yeah.  So has Senda.  NO REFUNDS, he thundered, once things didn't go the way he planned.

So Senda is your role model now?  Or are you going to be a man about it?

Certainly the former.  You don't have the grapes for the latter.


Curtis did implie, more donations would relate to better "content"... Without enough donations to send Curtis along with his professional broadcasting equipment and directorial skills, obviously the quality of "content" would be of a lower quality.

Did early investors assume a greater "inherit risk?"
#219
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#220
Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on June 22, 2018, 09:58:28 PM
You're a bigger man than I am, Gunny.  I would go cold with embarrassment over the thought of peeps here learning that I gave The Fat One

O N E   H U N D R E D   A N D   F I F T E E N   D O L L A R S

I would probably write it off.  But not you.  No, you keep reminding everyone that you did it.  Or is it WC doing the reminding?  Maybe that ol' WhiteTroll isn't as stupid as he looks.
..

I've been rethinking about me feeling that I'm the responsible party for making refunds because I approved, as Curtis's manager that he close the GoFundMe account because George was hasseling him for the cash and "we" agreed to buy George an Aliencon ticket instead from the GoFundMe account. Curtis may have  "overpromised" the scope of services he plan on rendering to George?
I invested in George I'm not George's manager, An investment is by definition made with an assumed  risk.

What say you?

Definition: Investment risk can be defined as the probability or likelihood of occurrence of losses relative to the expected return on any particular investment. Description: Stating simply, it is a measure of the level of uncertainty of achieving the returns as per the expectations of the investor.
#221
Quote from: PB the Deplorable on June 22, 2018, 09:55:58 PM
Now that Falkie and Linda Molten Howe are good friends, I wonder how many times he's emailed her?

Is it true that George told Linda M Howe on a video that the red marks (flea bites) he gets on his face while he sleeps was proof that he gets abducted by aliens?
#222
Quote from: paladin1991 on June 22, 2018, 02:50:08 AM
115 dollars, WC.

Need address.

What's next? George will be asking for me to refund his $25.00 seed money he donated to the Aliencon GoFundMe?
#223
Quote from: GravitySucks on June 22, 2018, 01:04:38 AM
Ohmygawd

He showed up late Friday and checked into the hotel because he was too tired. He ate all of his food he took for the weekend on the train. No live video.  He did a two hour video from the hotel and then went out to get something to eat. Downed another chili burger, large fries (that fell on the dloor in CVS) two bags of chips and a cheddar cheese stick and a snapple. Having no more money left he decided to go home early. He probaby went to aliencon for a few hours and took like 49 minutes of video with his kindle fire because his ipad locked up. He did get a photo with Nick Pope and Linda Howe but forgot who else he was supposed to get.  He went to union station and spent the night there before he caught the 14 hour train back home. The train hit and killed a “trespasser” which is why it took so long. Again no live video.  He got home and ate his last tv dinner. He is not granting any refunds because none of this was his fault. He couldn’t see and he didn’t have enough time to plan.  Next time he is going to fly and have a car and an highlander. He will have enough money dor a hotel for the whole weekend. He will have his gopro out of the pawn shop and a new gopro 6. He will have live streaming internet and a fixed ipad a new ipad a new macbook pro 2015 and rolling luggage with wheels and since it is in Baltimore he is going to see his sister who he hasn’t seen in 30 years.

Did I miss anything?

Yes...

George blames his thousand fake Russian youtube subscribers for not donating enough so that Curtis could also go to Aliencon and video him with his professional equipment.

George also continues to distort that he set up the GoFundMe account and it was under his control. He neither set up the GoFundMe account nor had any say about how the funds were to be disbursed.

All in all and George being George I enjoyed his efforts!

Thanks George

Eirnn here's the best video from George's Aliencon adventure that has elements of the "George" that we all appreciate and love.


https://youtu.be/PnQDOCLtT54
#224
Quote from: NXOEED on June 20, 2018, 09:18:24 PM
haha I appreciate these shout-outs, WhiteCrow.

I enjoy your videos so glad to share them
#227
Quote from: heater on June 19, 2018, 08:14:45 PM
This is why I wanted to go!  We had a benefactor at the ready but I really wanted it to be a community effort.  I won't attempt this in the future as its upset some people that don't get the same entertainment value out of the experience as I thought they would.  Lesson learned.  I think what we got out of it was at least equal to the amount of donations spent.  if we hadn't done this last weekend would have gone uneventfully and we wouldn't have had a 'thing' to rally around.

I still look at it as a lost opportunity for George.
But as said.. George is George and I under estimated the posters on George's thread, after 5 years,  getting  their panties all in a wad over a couple of "donated/grifted" bucks. Curtis tried his hardest to clue everyone in... all about the "content"

Oh well, George tried his best without his "support" crew.

"Nothing lost if nothing ventured"

This is White Crow

Faith Hope Love ALL
#228
Quote from: Billy Joe Mulgreavey on June 19, 2018, 08:48:20 PM
Sure, here you go Mr. WhiteDouchebag...er WhiteTroll...er WhiteCrow, sir...


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uUFSEYdsHV4

B+.   Good effort
#229
Quote from: heater on June 19, 2018, 08:25:14 PM
you are playing 3 dimensional chess while I am playing tic-tac-toe.  well played Grub



https://youtu.be/QdykXAT19Go
#230
Quote from: brig on June 19, 2018, 08:31:13 PM
Watching WhiteTroll get all defensive is priceless as well.

Awe gee wiz thanks
#231
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 19, 2018, 07:27:13 PM

And you resent being called a troll? Interesting.

I do.. its very insulting. And grub does it to troll me
#232
Quote from: Rally Squirrel on June 19, 2018, 07:35:27 PM
Brig, you really need to read things better before you donate money or you risk getting ripped off.

You gave money to Curtis and he did exactly what he said he would do.

It was unforeseen that Senda would quit early but Senda doing an unpredictable and stupid thing should always be predicted.

Personally I also donated $5 and only did so because it was the minimum in order to post a message. When Senda had all messages removed I asked for a refund because I did not get what I payed for, but I do not care, the entire shit show was worth $5.

I asked him why he needed the golden ticket for all 3 days. All it did was get early access to the dealers room on Friday, fast passes to a few panels, 1 free autograph and a tote bag.

I figured he was paying $200 for an autograph and a tote bag. Well I was wrong. He missed Friday he was late for the panels and he forgot who he was signed up to get a free autograph from. So he spent over $200 for a tote bag because he only used the one day basic ticket.

I like to make lemonade.. George ate the most expensive cheese burger ever and now owns the most expensive tote bag.
#233
Quote from: damon on June 19, 2018, 07:14:43 PM
WhiteCrow, can your bank buy falkie an island so we can dump falkie there and watch him with hidden cameras,

No ..but you can start a GoFundMe for George's Shipping Container Compound Utopia. Same results.
#234
Quote from: brig on June 19, 2018, 08:14:59 PM
If people don't ask him for refunds when he doesn't make good on his promises, then he will never stop "Lying for donations".

Oh that's the key..apply logic.. George will surely understand and change his ways..
#235
Quote from: PB the Deplorable on June 19, 2018, 08:04:14 PM
And it would still be vapid talentless dreck

Can you imagine a "grown up" trying to manage George? I don't think there is a person that has those skills. Herding a hundred feral kitty kats would easier.
#237
Quote from: brig on June 19, 2018, 06:34:12 PM
As you wish.

I will, none the less, still be insisting on a refund from Senda.

Without a care about who George grifts it from? And setting off a domino effect: "a cumulative effect produced when one event initiates a succession of similar events" The 5 bucks refund could potentially
be the best grift ever conceived by George if they all demand to also receive a refund from him.

I smell a rat,. Grubbie are you partnered with George on this grift/con/wringing 5 bucks refund plus interest?
#238
Quote from: brig on June 19, 2018, 05:59:10 PM
You must be learning to make up stories from Senda.  I told you to buy Mrs Troll a coffee from me, First, Second and Third time.  I have never PM'd YOU to refund my money, NOR have I ever asked Curtis to.  I want Senda to refund my money, Not YOU, not Curtis. As his manager/investor or whatever you call it, please tell him that I am asking him for a refund.  It is Senda that used and did not appreciate anyones donations for anything.  Senda should refund EVERYONES donations for everything, NOT just the gofundme ticket. IMO.

Number one fact. I do not buy coffee, people buy coffee for me.

Number two fact. Yes you did ask Curtis and then me to refund your 5 bucks plus interest and later modified it, spend it on coffee and now you are asking George for refund it.

Number three fact: "It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces; but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered; that of neither has been answered fully" 
To end any more of your ambiguities (grubbing) about the matter and eliminate George grifting (wringing) from another to pay you. I take full responsibility. You used your donation as a red herring to voice "negitivity" and false flags both before and after Aliencon. I will refund your 5 bucks plus interest.

#239
Quote from: brig on June 19, 2018, 02:24:54 AM
I don't think ANYBODY want's a refund from you WhiteTroll.  I want GEORGE to refund my money, NOT YOU.  You can use my donation to take Mrs Troll out for coffee on me.  I want GEORGE to refund my donation.  HE is the one that lied to everyone,  used my money,  and wasted it.

He knew he needed to spend $70 bucks to get himself wifi for the entire trip, including the train trip.  He got donations from people besides the gofund me for equiptment, internet, any little thing he broke etc.  He  GEORGE SENDA owes EVERYBODY REFUNDS for everything, not just his ticket money.

Also, Senda really should stop saying "he had no way of knowing" ANYTHING!!!  He has a phone, a pen, internet, an IPad, 3 Kindle FIres, 2 IPhones, an Android phone, etc, etc, etc.

I have never trolled anyone so please stop referring to me as one.


Brig, before you wanted Curtis to refund you then I explained it was my responsibility, now you want George to refund you. Nothing has changed, I ok'd the decision to use the cash in the GoFundMe account and buy George the ticket. I could have ok' refunding the donors but I didn't. So I am the person that has to make good to anyone that requests a refund. Not Curtis or George.

I'll get you a refund, I was waiting to see how George did at Alien con. IMHO you didnt get your 5 bucks worth
#240
Quote from: NXOEED on June 19, 2018, 10:52:11 AM
This is fascinating. I've been studying the dude for a couple weeks now. It's something I've been doing with a lot of guys like this lately, though maybe not with cases as extreme as his. But I'm definitely fascinated by people with no discernible talent or anything interesting to say having the confidence to think people might be into watching them. You can almost string five or six of these things together, play them in a classroom, and at the end of the viewing, say, "Do the opposite of everything this guy is doing". And viewers who take the advice will go on to live happy and fulfilling lives. I wish the dude the best, but goddamn.It would never occur to me to beg for money on the internet so that I can go to a fundamentally stupid convention and then blame the people who donated it to me for my failures.

t would never occur to me to beg for money on the internet so that I can go to a fundamentally stupid convention and then blame the people who donated it to me for my failures

lmao NXOEED... after so many years of reading Falkie, I truly forget how really BIZARRE he is.
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