Looking back at the events of what led to first joining this site. From when it was named George Noory Sucks to current (Tho initially using a different login name back then) Wonder if any users here or elsewhere on 'any' other sites, any internet media, channels, podcasts etc, seriously consider the impact of what they do. They should.
Joined only when Art Bell was coming back & this was the site to be in on breaking developments, tho with hesitation because not really interested in being a member of a site that's main purpose was to belittle a talk host that some did not like. Ok I admit. I never was a fan of GN. Had an Art bias I could not let go of but felt no need to crucify him for that. I did not like him - Obviously many did as he still hosts today.
But hey, Art was coming back. The site name ended up changed. It was so cool & exciting he was coming back! So joined - fully aware that considering the treatment of Noory , at anytime it could be directed to someone else. A shark tank.
I thought Art was naive in thinking this was a safe supportive place to be. I also thought that his posting on a site that had supported ridiculing GN made fair turn around when it became Art as the target. Just a mess. Fair? but certainly not nice to see happen.
It wasn't cool when even Art's biggest supporters turned on him. Or what was posted about him. Sure facts are facts, but speculation and outright creepy trolls who posted some awful things - ( never was moderated. It should have been).
But hey - it was a free for all on Noory. Why not get Art once he was out of favor.
Thing is I think it really bothered Art.
Art in hospital dealing with COPD ,perhaps not likely to survive that, still individual posters willing to go all out. No site moderation either. Free speech. It's so great isn't it. Not really unless the purpose of Bellgab was to make his remaining time miserable. I had hoped he did not visit the site. Thing is, I think he did and he took that to heart.
Nor has it been anything but stomach turning to see that same animosity/creepiness turned on Heather Wade.
Like her or not as a show host. She managed to get from this site to hosting with Art. Often people would rather see others fail than make it. Of course the animosity to Art was transferred to her.
I never followed Art's last reincarnation show once he left it, as it was really only Art I was interested in hearing. It really had nothing to do with whether I liked Heather's style or not.
But occasionally checked in on the drama all across the internet of Heather taking on the show, never been willing to be a part of it. Nor to make things harder on someone who was/ is obviously having a difficult time.
It would cause skin crawling, sleepless nites and a total question of conscience to wonder if had a part in driving someone past their ability to cope. Noory, Art, or Heather, or any individual.
Many times in life people go thru hard times, hopefully not exposed publicly. Many times in those periods there is family or friends who when one needs some grounding come thru.
Lucky if one has those connections and people.
One never expects to need that, but life can throw curve balls and when it surely does, it is that support that keeps one going.
Liking a person or not. With good reason or not, with what an individual might consider legitimate reasons or history to base it on , or whether have only interacted thru forums & anonymous user names, or even in a more professional or business interaction.
Maybe holding to a higher standard and 'Taking the Highroad' - Doing no harm, rather than defaulting to the lowest common denominator is something to consider.
I don't know Heather, I have never followed her show but because of listening to Art since1996, did occasionally catch up on what had been transpiring.
I hope Heather is ok and only wish her the best even in regards to all the 'he said, she said scuttle' because bottom line it is obvious that it has been very hard. It doesn't matter that as 'redacted' she may have fallen into the trap of being part of the so called witty hits on Noory/ Big thing in its time. I think Noory had a thicker skin, I hope so for his sake. The same thing being done to her now, tho really it is more base and disgusting.
When this was done to Art many left the forum, many who were worth reading and some of what they shared would make one think on some issues a bit deeper. The decent ones.
Food for thought, hopefully.
Or turn it into reeking garbage/ the stink will cling.
One always has a choice to consider whether their interactions are cruel or kind and what impact it truly has.
Joined only when Art Bell was coming back & this was the site to be in on breaking developments, tho with hesitation because not really interested in being a member of a site that's main purpose was to belittle a talk host that some did not like. Ok I admit. I never was a fan of GN. Had an Art bias I could not let go of but felt no need to crucify him for that. I did not like him - Obviously many did as he still hosts today.
But hey, Art was coming back. The site name ended up changed. It was so cool & exciting he was coming back! So joined - fully aware that considering the treatment of Noory , at anytime it could be directed to someone else. A shark tank.
I thought Art was naive in thinking this was a safe supportive place to be. I also thought that his posting on a site that had supported ridiculing GN made fair turn around when it became Art as the target. Just a mess. Fair? but certainly not nice to see happen.
It wasn't cool when even Art's biggest supporters turned on him. Or what was posted about him. Sure facts are facts, but speculation and outright creepy trolls who posted some awful things - ( never was moderated. It should have been).
But hey - it was a free for all on Noory. Why not get Art once he was out of favor.
Thing is I think it really bothered Art.
Art in hospital dealing with COPD ,perhaps not likely to survive that, still individual posters willing to go all out. No site moderation either. Free speech. It's so great isn't it. Not really unless the purpose of Bellgab was to make his remaining time miserable. I had hoped he did not visit the site. Thing is, I think he did and he took that to heart.
Nor has it been anything but stomach turning to see that same animosity/creepiness turned on Heather Wade.
Like her or not as a show host. She managed to get from this site to hosting with Art. Often people would rather see others fail than make it. Of course the animosity to Art was transferred to her.
I never followed Art's last reincarnation show once he left it, as it was really only Art I was interested in hearing. It really had nothing to do with whether I liked Heather's style or not.
But occasionally checked in on the drama all across the internet of Heather taking on the show, never been willing to be a part of it. Nor to make things harder on someone who was/ is obviously having a difficult time.
It would cause skin crawling, sleepless nites and a total question of conscience to wonder if had a part in driving someone past their ability to cope. Noory, Art, or Heather, or any individual.
Many times in life people go thru hard times, hopefully not exposed publicly. Many times in those periods there is family or friends who when one needs some grounding come thru.
Lucky if one has those connections and people.
One never expects to need that, but life can throw curve balls and when it surely does, it is that support that keeps one going.
Liking a person or not. With good reason or not, with what an individual might consider legitimate reasons or history to base it on , or whether have only interacted thru forums & anonymous user names, or even in a more professional or business interaction.
Maybe holding to a higher standard and 'Taking the Highroad' - Doing no harm, rather than defaulting to the lowest common denominator is something to consider.
I don't know Heather, I have never followed her show but because of listening to Art since1996, did occasionally catch up on what had been transpiring.
I hope Heather is ok and only wish her the best even in regards to all the 'he said, she said scuttle' because bottom line it is obvious that it has been very hard. It doesn't matter that as 'redacted' she may have fallen into the trap of being part of the so called witty hits on Noory/ Big thing in its time. I think Noory had a thicker skin, I hope so for his sake. The same thing being done to her now, tho really it is more base and disgusting.
When this was done to Art many left the forum, many who were worth reading and some of what they shared would make one think on some issues a bit deeper. The decent ones.
Food for thought, hopefully.
Or turn it into reeking garbage/ the stink will cling.
One always has a choice to consider whether their interactions are cruel or kind and what impact it truly has.