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ok... here's what i (think i) know about a mac...

they're vastly superior over the pc in multimedia applications, such as audio/video editing.  they're physically beautiful.  and they're really expensive despite the fact their hardware technology isn't beyond comparison to their pc equivalent(s).  they also appear not to afford the user a wide array of software.  am i essentially on the right track here?

my only experience with apple products is the iPod nano my wife has.  it is so locked down by apple that you can do almost NOTHING to make it operate the way you want (i.e. open source firmware like rockbox, managing files in explorer, etc.).  the very same shortcomings (lack of freedom) i have heard people scream about over the years as it relates to microsoft products seem to be alive and well in apple's products.  i have listened to iPhone owners prattle on and on about their inability to even text a picture to someone without having to log into some archaic and cumbersome website where their phone's postage stamp size pictures reside for them to retrieve and do with as they please.

just seems to me, based on these two VERY prominent apple products, that apple isn't exactly as impressive an entity as people would like pc users to believe.  i think the alternative for those who wish to escape the clutches of microsoft's often mediocre products seems to be the linux world.  not mac.  just a few rushed thoughts.

some of my thoughts on the macbook air:
http://ufoship.com/comment.php?comment.news.105

so tim russert is dead.  what do you guys think of him?  i didn't have any problem with him until he turned his back on don imus.  prior to imus letting loose with the "nappy headed hos" flap, russert was on imus' show regularly... particularly when it came time to promote his dumb book about his dad who apparently taught him nothing about loyalty.  when imus got into hot water with the civil rights frauds out there, russert joined the list of people who were piling on against imus, his friend of many years. 

i know you are supposed to say nice things about people when they die, but i just have to say i have little respect for russert as a man.  i do not believe in disloyalty.  i would have made a wonderful mafia figure.

for those of you who sing the praises of vista and think it's visually stunning, i submit to you the following video demo of Ubuntu 8.04... the newest release.  ubuntu is a free, open source code linux operating system which you can download at ubuntu.com.  it is far more stable, secure, and efficient than either windows xp or vista.  it's also far more beautiful, if you choose to make it so (as seen below).
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JI-ye1oa4N8
i have been slamming vista for a long time based on everything i've read about it, but i'd never used it.  i recently bought a new laptop (asus F8) and it's running vista ultimate.  i was going to wipe it and run xp, but i chose to run vista and give the behemoth operating system a chance.  although i was initially impressed and felt as though i was eating some of my previous slanderous words, i have now concluded this is the biggest piece of shit operating system ever devised.  microsoft, you are a sloppy, bloated company and i hope your dominance of the consumer level operating system market ends SOON!  you have now had about 2 years to get this turd you call "vista" lined out, and it is still mediocre at best!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FVbf9tOGwno

Have any of you experienced anything that defies explanation?  Please tell us about it.  This is my favorite Art Bell-type topic.

this is really cool.  they have released some hubble telescope pictures of galaxies colliding in some far off corner of the universe.  here is the story at fox news:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352439,00.html

kinda funny how in the story they mention this is the "largest collection of hubble images ever released together."  does this mean not all of hubble's images are publicly available?  if not, why?  public funds are paying for the project and have been since day one.  why would all images not be made public as a matter of standard practice?  maybe i'm interpreting that sentence from the news story incorrectly.

for a more thorough collection of imagery, go here:

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2008/16/

This website opened on April 5, 2008... 1 week ago as of the posting of this message.  www.coastgab.com used to point to my other website because I wasn't doing anything with the domain name.  Now, as you can see, I've chosen to do something with the domain name, hence the fact you're reading this message.  I've noticed Google STILL HAS NOT INDEXED THIS SITE and if you type coastgab.com into Google, the first result in the list is the site this domain name was previously pointed to.  I submitted a sitemap to Google this afternoon hoping it will help.  But Christ.  I went over to Yahoo today, and if you type George Noory Sucks, this site is the first one in the list.  And that's just keywords!!  It's a far cry from the specificity of typing an actual domain name into the search bar.

I know there are probably a billion technical reasons for this problem with Google, but I don't care about those reasons.  The fact is I've had to jump through hoops to get indexed with Google that I haven't had to jump through with Yahoo.  Users of Yahoo who type George Noory Sucks are finding this site, whereas Google users are not.  This means Yahoo users, by definition, are being provided a better service than those of Google, does it not?  Seems so to me.  Yahoo appears to be closer to a "real-time" accounting of what's available out there, and their indexing system appears to be far more self-sustaining than that of Google.  I'm beginning to reevaluate my long standing allegiance to Google as a search engine.  Seems most of their dominance of the market share these days could possibly be simply because they're Google.  Comments?

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=wQXDhnpS7oY

The following is a list of documented George Noory quotes. Known as "Nooryisms"... these non sequitur quips and half-witted, meandering ramblings serve only to exacerbate my feelings of disappointment over what has happened since Noory took over Coast to Coast AM. If you happen to know of others and you can document when they occurred, please post them in a reply to this topic.


"Could it be a portal?"

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"I don't think there's any doubt."

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"Let me tell you even I have learned some things here I didn't know about."
From Jul 19 2007. Following a round table discussion on trans-humanism.

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"How 'bout a dramatic topic... trans-humanism... you know, when you just think of the word trans-humanism, you dudint think that it's that exciting but it really is!"
From July 19 2007. He really did say dudn't.

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"If we all had our own solar system, we wouldn't have to worry about that."
From July 19, 2007. During a discussion on solar energy.

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"Did you hear today they just found Saturn's 60th moon? I will give you one million dollars of the network's money, James, if you, in the next two minutes, can name all sixty."
From July 19, 2007.

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George Noory: "Dr. Leir's website is www.alienscalpel.com. Ooh, that's scary sounding. Alien scalpel."

Dr. Roger Leir: "Well, you know me George, I don't try to scare people."

George Noory: "Yeah, with those fang teeth of yours?"
July 6, 2007.

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"If you raised a baby and beat it and kicked it and yelled at it, it would turn out to be a mean baby?"
July 19, 2007.

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"Jim, humanity has always been looking for ways to improve on our suffering and improve on disease, aging and involuntary death..."
July 19, 2007.

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"You know, Ray, everytime I think of things in the future, I think of the Jetsons."
July 19, 2007.

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"Well before too long we'll all be cyborgs won't we?"
July 19, 2007.

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"I would guess your mind is part of who you are."
July 19, 2007.

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"If you had a chance to go back to Skull and Bones right now, as a little fly on the ointment, so to speak, what would you be looking for?"

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"Gosh!"

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I've been fascinated by this my entire life.

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Al-ja-reeza.

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"Things are never as they seem.

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I should write a book. I've always wanted to write a book. I should write a book about kids who see dead people.

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"Wouldn't it be amazing if one day they discover a buried UFO and flipped a switch and on it goes?" (Another non-sequitur.)

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I don't believe in coincidences.

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There are no coincidences.

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Coincidences don't exist.

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Have I ever mentioned that I don't believe in coincidences?

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OK, Canadian. Don't knock our administration.

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I really do believe 2012 is coming. What do you think about that?

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"Well, the group mind experiments I've done on the show have been rather tentative because I don't know what the heck I'm doing.

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George: "It would be great if Saddam just left Iraq, don't you think?"

Hal: "Yes, but he's not going to do that. Like last time, he's going to put his citizens in harm's way, use them as human shields, and wreak destruction on the oil fields."

George: "That's kind of selfish, isn't it?"

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"Yeah, March 3rd is a full moon. When our boys go in that'd be the best time, because they'll really need the light to see." (On the Iraq invasion.)

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"I truly believe there are other solar systems out there. I really do."

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That'll make you want to think.

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"Just let it go. Don't worry about it. If you screw up, no one will ever know." (George talking to his board operator during a break when his mic was accidentally left open.)

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A story is worth a thousand words.

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Richard C. Hoagland: So he used the Star Wars theme the night before the God damn war started! Can I say that on here?

George Noory: No.

Richard C. Hoagland: Oh. OK.

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"That's got to be the worst luck I've ever heard of... in a very long time."

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I was jumping over chairs and knocking them over with my back feet."

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"Yeah. Pretty scary. But has anyone considered the people that live underground? (Referring to the Sounds From Hell clip.)

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"Lex has done it again. I don't know how Lex does it." (Referring to listener-submitted photos on the website.)

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"Oh, yeah."
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Sure.
That's right.
Uh huh.
Gee.
Ha ha. That?s true.
Yeah.
I was just going to say...
Sure, yeah.
Gosh, he comes up with some great stuff.
(Noory's interactions with Michio Kaku in April of 2003.)

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"He's dedicated to finding the 'Theory of Almost Everything.'"
(Referring to Michio Kaku.)

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"Did he have.....Lamb Legs?"
(Referring to a half-man, half-animal thing a caller said was chasing her.)

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"You know, you sound exactly like Don Johnson."
(Immediately following a lengthy monologue by guest Zeph Daniel.)

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Are they called sand scripts because they were written on tablets of sand?
(To Michael Cremo, referring to the Sanskrit language.)

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Chucacabra.

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"Do you think asteroids have a brain and know which side of the planet to crash into?"

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"You'll know how advanced they are by the amount of graffiti in the tunnels.
(Referring to Mars.)

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Wagering war...

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"I've got to ask you something, and this is going to be a very profound question. I want you to think for a moment, if you haven't already, and... oh, I guess you probably already have...

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Can you add hydrogen to, say, gasoline... or does that defeat the purpose?"

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"I want to go back to the dark ages and find out what the reason was. I think it was an asteroid or a meteor."

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"Elderly Thomas Edison was elderly."
March 28, 2007.

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"Bigfoot may well be an extraterrestrial, because... remember Chewbacca?"

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"We're not talking about dead people. We're talking about the aliens... of their ghosts!"

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"Well, with prophecy you got to see what happens."

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"You do something annual every year, don't you?"

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"What I do is create an aura of mystery."

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"Sometimes I wish the aliens would abduct me and crown me as their leader."

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"Who or what was the Great Pyramid?"

You are reading the first of hopefully MANY posts on this message board, CoastGab.com.

My name is Michael Vandeven.  I'm 28 years old.  I started listening to Art Bell in the early 1990s back when Coast to Coast AM (or The Art Bell Show) was a nightly experience.  For the first time, somebody was able to host a nightly show focused on paranormal subject matter while being at least slightly more entertaining than throat cancer. 

It's always seemed ironic how such an interesting series of topics could put you to sleep if discussed by anybody but Art.  I don't know what made him different, but whatever it was, nobody else could touch him.  Art was funny in a strange way that could be appreciated both by teenage males and little old ladies.  He talked about himself and his personal life.  He didn't screen calls.  He allowed bullshit guests on the air but challenged all of them (and embarrassed some of them).

Then Art's problems began.  The surprise retirement on October 13, 1998 and his triumphant return a couple weeks later signaled the beginning of the end.  Then on April 26, 2000, Art's estimated 22-million listeners received a "permanent" replacement host for the first time in the form of Mike Siegel.  A disaster with shoes, Siegel presided over a quickly sinking ship with a panicked network begging Art to come back.  Art agreed, and for about a year, we thought the worst was over.  But the worst was yet to come.

George Noory permanently replaced Art Bell as the host of Coast to Coast AM on January 1, 2003.  The world would never be the same.

I gave Noory a chance for about 2 years.  I'm serious.  I gave him a legitimate chance to grow on me and toward the end of that chance, I concluded I'm ignoring a number of things about this man in order to stay in touch with the genre.

First off, he doesn't seem genuine.  At all.  From his seemingly feigned "Aw, shucks!" demeanor to his apparent disinterest in the topics C2C covers, Noory seems to have been the worst possible choice.  He isn't remarkably intelligent or academic, as evidenced by his non-sequitur meanderings and left-field conclusions on a nightly basis.  The show is an embarrassment as one attempts to absorb a fascinating topic through a mine field of Noory's needless interruptions and childlike inquiries amid guests in whose academic company Noory can't even sneeze convincingly.

Noory's background is that of a news director.  That's right.  Coast to Coast AM is now hosted by a news director.  And it feels like it.  He speaks like a career news guy.  He has the personality of a career news guy.  Because of this bland, generic contribution by George, C2C is in my opinion just like every paranormal show out there;  boring as all hell and hosted by somebody with no personality who fearfully and diligently screens his calls.

"What about the ratings, Michael?" you might ask.  "The ratings are great." you say.  And you might be right.  I haven't denied this.  However, when listening to the crop of people who call this show regularly in 2008, it's clear to me why this is; George has built a new audience.  The callers today don't sound to me like the same demographic of people who called back in the 1990s when Art was in the big chair.  Today, the C2C audience sounds less educated, more left-wing, and are comprised of a greater number of new-age "wicca types" who blather on and on about natural healing methods.  Rather than talk about nuclear arms technology or the science behind the secrets of our universe, they prefer to talk about seeing 11:11 on their Chinese-made alarm clock and pontificating for five minutes over what that really could mean.  They incessantly go on and on about the year 2012, and they are incapable of believing anything other than what Alex Jones tells them.

So why does this site exist?  Obviously the afore mentioned grievances are a factor, but don't misunderstand.  This is not intended to be a George Noory "hater" site.  After all, as much as I love Art Bell's contribution to broadcasting, it was he who brought us this train wreck.  To fall into that trap would be rather limiting and would essentially render this project a waste of time.  Coastgab.com is intended as a meeting place for those who have enjoyed Coast to Coast AM over the years, regardless of which host they prefer.  If you like Noory, say it.  If he makes you want to murder your 5 small children in a Texas bathtub, say it.  Argue with one another.  Become friends.  Hate each other.  Love each other.  It's all in line with the purpose behind this site.  However, unlike other C2C fan boards (you know who they are), you won't be censored every time you let an air biscuit.

CoastGab.com is intended to be an enjoyable environment where members are given a loose leash.  Enjoy, and spread the word.  Let's turn this board into the authoritative fan board.  As you can see, it has a long way to go.