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Quote from: sintaxi on December 19, 2019, 03:05:39 PM
Updated 192k stream:

http://199.195.194.140:8005/stream

Heater just finished playing "Fascination Street"--looks like Christmas is coming early this year!

She sounds stoned.  Is she just "stretching", or is that how she sounds online these days?

What she most reminds me of is the "FM" side of Dan Ayckroyd on Saturday Night alternating mic breaks as an AM and FM DJ.

Quote from: Metron2267 on December 15, 2019, 10:51:48 AMArt actively promoted Heaven's Gate and people DIED because of it,

People died because of Heaven's Gate.  Nobody died because he promoted it.

Mr. Bell was idiosyncratic regarding his stances on things or people he presented.  There may well have been art (heh) to it.  Mr. Noory is idosyncratic regarding his stances too, but they seem to be taken randomly just to make it seem like he was paying attention.  Like he'll be shilling, shilling, shilling, and then out of the blue vehemently express skepticism about the next thing.  Maybe it's based on feedback via his producer.

Quote from: VC on December 15, 2019, 02:26:52 AMI think Art knew HW needed many years of "on air" experience to be really good at doing his live show format. His health was failing him, and Heater was not able to be groomed long enough to take-over his show.

A plausible supposition.  It'd be even more convincing if I were sure Mr. Bell's death was a suicide, or even if he was at that stage of don't-care-if-I-live-or-die.  But if his death was truly accidental, that could mean he thought he might have a few more years.

The theory would be that he was disappointed in Mr. Noory as his legacy, and wanted a shot at leaving a better one.

Sometimes the protege idea works in radio, sometimes it doesn't, and sometimes it succeeds partially or temporarily.  I've recounted here the story of Judy Jarvis and her son Jason.  I was recently listening to a very good occasional DJ on WFMU whom I'm told went on WFDU (note spelling) originally in the 1980s as a replacement for a suddenly dead DJ I think I listened to back then.

QuoteShe does have an attractive voice and tone to hook a potential audience.

Yep.  So does Mr. Noory, and he's not trying out dialects as Ms. Wade seemed to have been.

Quoteshe was not able to maintain a healthy skepticism and independence of belief, lacking Art's trickster's humor and neutrality stance, that included the possibility that some of each topic/guest might be real or true but, most often, not, when it came to hosting her guests and accepting their ideas and agendas. Art never crossed the line into gullibility and sucking-up to his guest's beliefs, as Heather did do. It was HW's biggest mistake, crossing that line, with her given AB audience that fully discredited her in trying to continue what AB's show was known for.

Yes, but I prefer gullible to completely uninterested as Noory is.  Obviously neither attitude is good, but at least I believe Ms. Wade shared with Bell an interest in the subject matter.  Didn't (Redacted) participate in the "Legit, charlatan, deluded, or crazy?" thread, and get that the audience enjoyed that sort of speculation?  Meanwhile I'm disappointed Noory didn't take C2C in his own directions, as Art said Noory would.  I'm still not entirely convinced Noory has no potential as an emcee and interviewer, if he found subject matter he and an audience shared interest in.  He's no worse than Bell was at interviewing entertainment celebrities, for instance.

And then there's also the case of the show with lousy "talent", great producer, as in my favorite example of Mahlzberg.  If the guests are interesting enough, and the interviewer doesn't wreck the show as Noory tends to, the show can still be good.

Quote from: WOTR on December 14, 2019, 02:35:04 PM2. It's on every day- all day long. You need only press "play" and "repeat."

If I were supplied a link to the hosting site, are the programs archived there in such a way that I could tell how frequent and how recent new material is?  Does she give notice of times she takes live phone calls, if she still even does that?

So what's her show like know, other than its being low quality?

How frequent and long is it?

Does it still come on in the middle of the night?  (Because MITD does?)

Is it just a solo Web stream?  Or is it carried by some streaming service, program aggregator, or broadcast stations?

Does she have guests?

What's her subject matter?  More of the same as MITD?

Does she do any of the ads herself?  Does she record any for repeat use?  Do any get play elsewhere?

Does she still blow her stack or melt down over technical or other difficulties?

Does she seem to be working on improving?

What's her day job?

Anyone want to report on their results from following NooriGuide's guidance?

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on March 26, 2015, 10:46:27 PMThere used to be a card game called "Illuminati" a few years back that dealt with many Art Bell topics.

It's still around, even came out later in a kind of deluxe version (larger cards in full color, partly different rules), Illuminati New World Order.  My friends and I play the "classic" Illuminati, plus our own custom cards, frequently.

An Art Bell board game should be about a contest to get thru on one of the phone lines and engage the host as long as possible, while the host's being distracted by phantom mice, cats, stalkers, and required commercial and ID breaks.  This would all be simulated by rotation of a set of concentric rings with an antenna in the middle.

I expect a lot of very helpful advice to come from this site:
https://nooriguide.com/

I despair of wading (heh) thru the material here to find an answer, so I'll ask: Did Ms. Wade lead the raid on 51?  Was she even part of it?  Did she take credit/blame for it?

Quote from: whoozit on May 06, 2019, 04:41:35 PM
Pizza on the grill.  Baked at 750 degrees.

So cooked by conduction from below?

I've been doing pizza in a pan in the electric oven.  I have a gas barbecue.  If I tried your method, I'd probably have to pre-cook the vegetables, which I haven't been doing.  I could use the barbecue as an oven instead.  How'd you come to be doing it as shown?

Quote from: Jackstar on August 18, 2019, 12:13:47 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTDyIE9gu1I

This dude was 100% "Irving" in my home dimension. Clown World blows major ass.

People do change the spellings of their names, like the late J. Neal Schulman, who changed it to J. Neil Schulman.  In this case, though, it's just a matter of someone's having an uncommon name similar to a common one.  I kept calling Brice Durbin Bruce to his face because I'd never previously heard or seen the name Brice, and thought I was hearing him wrong.

But that's a stupid YouTube channel, where people are impressed by spelling errors and the fact of some people being late to get the news about things like Gigantopithecus and lingerie football.  They think that because they never saw something on TV, it doesn't exist.  Mandela Effects my ass.

Quote from: brig on August 12, 2019, 10:43:58 AM
Thanks for the heads up!

http://www.rawillumination.net/2019/08/j-neil-schulman-has-died.html

http://lfs.org/blog/r-i-p-prometheus-winning-author-j-neil-schulman/

I hadn't realized The Fractal Man was already in print, having known about it only via Ralph.  I didn't communicate often with Neal directly, but am in close touch with Ralph.

You'll notice in the subject line I use Neal's previous spelling of his middle name.  That's how it is on the cover of my copy of Alongside Night.  I forgot the reason he said he changed it, but I always thought he wanted to foster confusion with L. Neill Smith.

From mutual friend Ralph Fucetola I heard that Neal/Neil died over the weekend.  He had lost his house in Pahrump, was staying at someone's in the mountains, and had multiple health problems, but his death still seemed sudden.  It was from multiple organ failure.

Neal recently completed a manuscript for another novel, The Fractal Man, which Ralph has an electronic copy of.

Trying some seidr here, I saw an Indian, b ut couldn't tell whether feather or dot.  Later I got an eagle looking straight at me, so I'm guessing feather in connecttion with the previous vision.  Then a spade pointed at the ground.

OK, an AmerIndian is going to be breaking ground, but I don't know whether literally or metaphorically.

I got some letters, but it's like a difficult CAPTCHA arrangement, couldn't read it.

Now 5-pointed star, so Texas.

I got a cartoon sheep.

Head of a Bissel carpet sweeper.

Srong impression of a laminated foil seal on the container of some dairy product.

I'm inferring a recall of some sheep milk product originating from Texas, but what the Indian and breaking ground has to do with it I don't know.

Quote from: paladin1991 on June 22, 2019, 08:43:56 PMLMH always put me to sleep. She read her 'reports' like a wall of text.  Better than a bottle of red wine and a fist full of Seconal to beat that insomnia.

Her delivery was her weak point.  Worth listening for her content, though.

Quote from: Jackstar on June 19, 2019, 04:18:59 PMBy definition, "gender" and "sex" are not the same thing. This failure of understanding is causing a lot of problems hilarity.

That's true.  Gender is a worthless concept -- just something to make learning languages harder so once in a blue moon it makes a sentence easier to understand.

Is this the great culling friends tell me is coming?

Quote from: ItsOver on May 21, 2019, 06:31:46 PMA Bigfoot scaling up a mountainside at the speed of light?

Consistent with John Keel's idea that they're interdimensional entities.

It's a testament to the unpopularity now of the idea that UFOs are mysterious nuts-and-bolts things that Stanton Friedman's death didn't even get mentioned in this thread.

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on May 19, 2019, 10:01:54 PMAny aircraft would be required to display port and starboard (red and green) running lights and a white or red strobe light at altitude unless conditions dictate otherwise.  Apparently the white light you saw was not strobing.  I have seen such steady white lights traveling on a constant bearing and assumed they were satellites.

I always enjoy being in a flight path and seeing a lineup of airliners take their final turn, put on the landing lights, and appear in a string pointed near directly at me.  It's somehow thrilling and soothing at the same time, and amazing they can pack them in with so little headway.  Better get off the runway fast!

Also happy-making is the Idlewild strobes along the Belt Parkway making their animated arrowheads toward Kennedy.  It doesn't look that impressive from the ground, but if you're a passenger on a flight to LaGuardia you can get a good view.  I'm crying a little just thinking about them.  If you're in a plane on that landing path, as a passenger you don't have a view of it.

Quote from: art_smoked_my_cigarettes on May 19, 2019, 04:14:13 PMI wouldn't say I'm judging the altitude, just the perception of the light seems lower than commercial aircraft.

Can you elaborate?

Quote from: 14 on May 19, 2019, 12:48:29 AMIf you are near the foot hills or if a hill blocks your horizon, then the altitude could be higher than it seems,

Why?

Quote from: albrecht on May 18, 2019, 06:39:58 PM20 years ago, or about that? There was a somewhat interesting book that was produced by the Open Societies Institute advocating marijuana legalization and so on. Did the usual talking points, and I assume valid, about research studies in crime, societal harm, and whatnot between countries that had decriminalized or legalized vs others (of course ignoring MANY other demographic factors.) But I noticed that Soros made the OSF (then OSI) and at the same time was trying to break currencies and such stuff. And so thought- "what is his motivation." Profit? Maybe, there is money in drugs. But as a billionaire already vested in more lucrative, and legal, situations why promote this? I don't know. Make a populace more docile? Often the arguments are "you don't see someone stoned fighting" which, to me, is a ridiculous argument. ThoughtI'm for legalizing, but mainly to take crime off it, a bit, and free choice of an adult to do whatever if not harming others- but still suspect about the politics of the deal. Seem to be 'pushed' by some and note how certain interests try to piggy-back on the legalize campaigns.

I think he just really believed in it.  I used to go to OSI forums at the Lindesmith Center (which OSI operated), and they were mostly about narcotics, etc., hence the association with Lindesmith's name.  However, they also had occasional forums on prostitution.  I went to one of the latter, lamenting, "That's what this place needs: more sex."  Much as I'm for legal drugs, I wanted legal sex to figure more prominently in the discussion.

But since they discussed both, and since one doesn't ordinarily think of making the populace more docile via prostitution and other sex liberation, I think The Palindrome was for real, and not interested pecuniarily.

Quote from: art_smoked_my_cigarettes on May 17, 2019, 11:12:11 PMYes, simply because the light appears to be at a lower altitude than commercial jets.

How do you judge its altitude?

Quote from: Jackstar on March 15, 2019, 03:54:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6ybH57fcDM

Hi, Michael, long time no see, I moved to New Jersey.

Quote from: Roswells, Art on March 12, 2019, 08:14:00 PMI hate to break it to everyone. People that are your doctors did it all the time. I took some classes that were pre-med. Almost everyone was cheating on the tests.

When I taught not long ago, I found nobody could write, so they all plagiarized.  So I stopped assigning essays, and substituted oral presentations.  It's near impossible to cheat on those.

I'm so glad you're smiling again -- actually have been for some time -- and that Art didn't have to come back from the dead for you to turn that frown back into the winking smile.  I really do think of the posters here and at Ellgab in terms of their avatar pictures.  I don't know if my wolf takes that seriously, though.

And the reason I'm not abbreviating so much any more is that Reason redid their Web site, no more apparent comment character limit as per Hit & Run.  So I got out of that habit.

Where he first came to my serious attention was when he chaired the Judiciary Committee during the televised hearings on Bork's nomination to the Supreme Court.  I sorta liked the guy, probably because of his big smile with his perfect dentition or dental work, and because he seemed fair.

Pretty much everything since then has turned me off to him, more so than to the average Democrat.  The other candidates for the Democrats' nomination for president don't bother me as badly because I know they'll never accomplish the things they're promising threatening to if they get elected, while I'm afraid Biden would succeed in achieving much ill.

I still think Trump's going to win re-election and will considerably improve on his popular vote share from 2016, but that the election will still be close, because I don't know if he can pick up any more states.

What was the answer to how the Doggie Suicide Br. worked?

Quote from: Morgus on April 13, 2019, 04:59:43 PMNoory last night during his Art Bell reminiscing, said when he first started guest hosting on c2cam that when Art first heard him he proclaimed "this guy GETS IT"

That would've approximately been my rxn too if prompted then.  Noory wasn't bad on C2C at 1st.  He was never quite Art Bell, but he didn't come off like a schlub either.

Who's vomiting in the background?