Executive action on immigration expected next week

[Juan]

The Republicans didn't have sense enough to throw the election.

[PB the Deplorable]

I wish that just one person that's supported Obama and his policies would just have the spine to stand up and say that he or she was just plain wrong, about the man, and his policies.

Well, there were all those Senators and challengers - including one who had been an Obama delegate - who refused to say whether they had even voted for him.  And so many other incumbents and challengers for other national, state, and local elections who were appalled at the thought of his even coming to their state.

It's a good start for what you are asking.  Of course now that the election is over they'll pretty much all still go along with whatever he and Hairy Reed want to do - that econ professor from MIT explained it all - they think we're all too stupid to notice. 

And maybe they are right about enough people most of the time.

[VtaGeezer]

I wish that just one person that's supported Obama and his policies would just have the spine to stand up and say that he or she was just plain wrong, about the man, and his policies.

That's a contradiction.   It looks to me like Obama finally gets it;  he was elected to be President, not to cowtow to or herd the worst Congress in generations.  About f---ing time!!  It's going to be fun watching the right wingers go apopleptic.  Conservatives don't understand the difference between our system and a parliamentary system. 

[FightTheFuture]

That's a contradiction.   It looks to me like Obama finally gets it;  he was elected to be President, not to cowtow to or herd the worst Congress in generations.  About f---ing time!!  It's going to be fun watching the right wingers go apopleptic.  Conservatives don't understand the difference between our system and a parliamentary system.

What will be fun, is watching our system squeeze off funding if Caesar Obamus gets a hair up his 6 and decides to violate the Constitution by granting green cards to millions of illegal aliens.

[PB the Deplorable]

... the worst Congress in generations...

Yes, Senate Majority Leader Hairy Reed bottling up all those bills the House passed so he could claim the R's were the 'do nothing' 'party of 'no' '.  And to protect his members from voting against bills supported by the majority of people in this country, and to protect Obama from having to veto them.

Harry Reed, the first Majority Leader in history to run the Senate as if it were under the Executive Branch.

But that backfired on ol' Harry and the D's, didn't it?  The only legislation he let go to a vote were bills Obama wanted.  So in the recent elections the challengers could run against Democrat Senators and tell their constituents those Senators ''voted with Obama 97 or 98% of the time".  Turned out that wasn't very popular.

The whole thing about the so-called 'do-nothing' Congress, and 'the Party of 'no', etc, etc, turned out to be the usual pile of lies from the Democrats.  It's the D's who can't work with anyone and won't compromise.  And held up all that legislation.  Good thing they have Big Media to support them and spread their dishonest narrative.

...  Conservatives don't understand the difference between our system and a parliamentary system.

Yes, in our system there are no checks and balances, whichever party controls the Executive Branch gets to pass and implement whatever legislation they want..

Oh, wait...

[VtaGeezer]

Obama's authority to define or redefine immigration policy and enforcement is set by law...Congress can change the applicable laws any time they want. 

[PB the Deplorable]

Obama's authority to define or redefine immigration policy and enforcement is set by law...Congress can change the applicable laws any time they want.

There you have it folks:  3 cheers for dictatorship.  As long as it's the Left doing the dictating.

The fact is, our immigration laws are as clear as can be.  Obama has no authority to pick and choose which immigration laws he wants to enforce, and no authority to create new immigration law.  None.  Zero.

But the people who despise our system, Constitutional limits to their power, the Constitution itself, the citizens of this country, and the country itself don't give a hoot about any of that.  They continue to insist that somehow this President has the power to do anything he wants.


Article I, Section 8:

The Congress shall have Power... To establish a Uniform Rule of Naturalization...

There is nothing at all in Article II - which outlines the President's powers and responsibilities - about immigration.  Nothing.  Of course that won't stop the drones from insisting there is.


Executive Actions are nothing more than Presidential directives on how to interpret broadly worded legislation.  Regulations generated by the Administration instead of within the effected department.  Regulations that enhance and do not contradict clearly stated legislation. 

Executive Actions are not a back door method for the President to create legislation he can't get passed, regardless of what the eggheads tell us.  The 'number' of EA's issued by various Presidents is irreverent, what matters is the content.


If Obama issues new decrees that are clearly illegal, he should be arrested, and Biden sworn in.

[b_dubb]

There you have it folks:  3 cheers for dictatorship.  As long as it's the Left doing the dictating.in.

Were you a drama major in college?  Where was your concern about the Constitution during the reign of Emperor Sonny Boy?

[VtaGeezer]

There you have it folks:  3 cheers for dictatorship.  As long as it's the Left doing the dictating.

Give it a rest, drama queen.  Looks like your gonna need all your energy for tantrums.

[albrecht]

There you have it folks:  3 cheers for dictatorship.  As long as it's the Left doing the dictating.

The fact is, our immigration laws are as clear as can be.  Obama has no authority to pick and choose which immigration laws he wants to enforce, and no authority to create new immigration law.  None.  Zero.

But the people who despise our system, Constitutional limits to their power, the Constitution itself, the citizens of this country, and the country itself don't give a hoot about any of that.  They continue to insist that somehow this President has the power to do anything he wants.


Article I, Section 8:

The Congress shall have Power... To establish a Uniform Rule of Naturalization...

There is nothing at all in Article II - which outlines the President's powers and responsibilities - about immigration.  Nothing.  Of course that won't stop the drones from insisting there is.


Executive Actions are nothing more than Presidential directives on how to interpret broadly worded legislation.  Regulations generated by the Administration instead of within the effected department.  Regulations that enhance and do not contradict clearly stated legislation. 

Executive Actions are not a back door method for the President to create legislation he can't get passed, regardless of what the eggheads tell us.  The 'number' of EA's issued by various Presidents is irreverent, what matters is the content.


If Obama issues new decrees that are clearly illegal, he should be arrested, and Biden sworn in.

You are acting as if this guy Obama is like any other President or cares one whit about what happens to the country or rule of law. He has a mission and he plans to do it no matter what the people, Congress, or law says on the matter. He also has a vested interest in the subject since so many of his relations are, or have been, illegal (recall his drunken uncle, his public housing bilking "dear aunty", or that brother who tried to sneak into the UK under a fake name due to a sex charge.)

[DanTSX]

That's a contradiction.   It looks to me like Obama finally gets it;  he was elected to be President, not to cowtow to or herd the worst Congress in generations.  About f---ing time!!  It's going to be fun watching the right wingers go apopleptic.  Conservatives don't understand the difference between our system and a parliamentary system.

What an ironic statement....

[PB the Deplorable]

Give it a rest, drama queen...

Oh, good one.  Good thing b-dubb posted that.

Have you ever had an original thought?

[VtaGeezer]

Oh, good one.  Good thing b-dubb posted that.

Have you ever had an original thought?

Ya can't touch me...I got my Love Glasses on.

[b_dubb]

"OMFG Obama might let brown people into the country!!!!"

[DanTSX]

"OMFG Obama might let brown people into the country!!!!"

This isn't already happening?

[PB the Deplorable]

"OMFG Obama might let brown people into the country!!!!"

Is that the new line from the Party of Racism?  Maybe you can tell us how these people benefit the US.  That is the reason we have immigration, right?  Here's a hint - it isn't to improve our economy, which I believe is the current Official Lie from this Administration.


Just think - we can have all these poor unskilled people flood in:  to take the low skill and entry level jobs Americans need, so the D's will have a whole new pool of people they can point to and talk about 'income inequality', to get on the handout gravy train so we can borrow more money we don't have and grow our intrusive leviathan government even bigger.

As Obama and Holder showed with their gun-running to the cartels, they don't mind more 'immigrant' gang members, more 'immigrant' cartel members, more crime along the border and into our cities - so they can continue to militarize the police, make the case for more gun laws and seizures, justify the massive spying on the American people.

Oh yes, in his quest to destroy the country Obama knows exactly which immigrants would cause the most trouble.  And, oh yeah, vote Democrat



PS - our existing immigration laws allow immigration from everywhere.  Even from countries with 'brown people'.  It's just that we want to know who the potential immigrants are, why they want to come, make sure they aren't carrying diseases, aren't criminals, aren't terrorists, you know, the normal information every country asks about. 

But doing it that way doesn't really help Obama with his agenda, does it?

[albrecht]

Is that the new line from the Party of Racism?  Maybe you can tell us how these people benefit the US.  That is the reason we have immigration, right?  Here's a hint - it isn't to improve our economy, which I believe is the current Official Lie from this Administration.


Just think - we can have all these poor unskilled people flood in:  to take the low skill and entry level jobs Americans need, so the D's will have a whole new pool of people they can point to and talk about 'income inequality', to get on the handout gravy train so we can borrow more money we don't have and grow our intrusive leviathan government even bigger.

As Obama and Holder showed with their gun-running to the cartels, they don't mind more 'immigrant' gang members, more 'immigrant' cartel members, more crime along the border and into our cities - so they can continue to militarize the police, make the case for more gun laws and seizures, justify the massive spying on the American people.

Oh yes, in his quest to destroy the country Obama knows exactly which immigrants would cause the most trouble.  And, oh yeah, vote Democrat



PS - our existing immigration laws allow immigration from everywhere.  Even from countries with 'brown people'.  It's just that we want to know who the potential immigrants are, why they want to come, make sure they aren't carrying diseases, aren't criminals, aren't terrorists, you know, the normal information every country asks about. 

But doing it that way doesn't really help Obama with his agenda, does it?

Keep in mind that many, if not most, of the illegals Obama is encouraging to come here, and to get amnesty, are uneducated and from areas with rampant corruption. They are used to being pushed around by corrupt police, deal with corrupt politicians, and accept crime everywhere. They aren't people who understand our history, our tradition of law, our Constitution, our political system, etc. They will vote as they are told. They will encourage and accept corruption here and import those ideas into our systems. We have enough crime and problems with the system currently and don't need to import more problems.

[b_dubb]

Keep in mind that many, if not most, of the illegals Obama is encouraging to come here, and to get amnesty, are uneducated and from areas with rampant corruption. They are used to being pushed around by corrupt police, deal with corrupt politicians, and accept crime everywhere. They aren't people who understand our history, our tradition of law, our Constitution, our political system, etc. They will vote as they are told. They will encourage and accept corruption here and import those ideas into our systems. We have enough crime and problems with the system currently and don't need to import more problems.

are brown uneducated people worse/better than white uneducated people?  you act like america is a paragon of educational excellence.

[albrecht]

are brown uneducated people worse/better than white uneducated people?  you act like america is a paragon of educational excellence.

That is my whole point. Thank you though for reiterating it. We have enough uneducated, corrupt, jobless, and even criminals here already, of all races and ethnicities. How is importing millions more of the same supposed to improve that? You think throwing a few more million illiterate children (usually illiterate even in their native language) into our schools will help improve marks? Having a few more million instantly granted amnesty who are uneducated on our history, culture, or law will help the politics? You think more diseased and uninsured will help our healthcare system? Some more unemployed, or unemployable, will help those numbers? Granted the prison-industry might see a windfal,l as many illegals also like other crimes like DUI, rapes, et, but other than that who benefits? Certainly not the US citizens. Certainly not the legal immigrants. Certainly not the Hispanic citizens who now will have to deal with illegals and their crimes and corruption in their neighborhoods.

[Gd5150]

Obama's authority to define or redefine immigration policy and enforcement is set by law...Congress can change the applicable laws any time they want.

You really should go back to school and learn your civics 101.
Or at least finish the 8th grade.

[PB the Deplorable]

That is my whole point. Thank you though for reiterating it. We have enough uneducated, corrupt, jobless, and even criminals here already, of all races and ethnicities. How is importing millions more of the same supposed to improve that? You think throwing a few more million illiterate children (usually illiterate even in their native language) into our schools will help improve marks? Having a few more million instantly granted amnesty who are uneducated on our history, culture, or law will help the politics? You think more diseased and uninsured will help our healthcare system? Some more unemployed, or unemployable, will help those numbers? Granted the prison-industry might see a windfal,l as many illegals also like other crimes like DUI, rapes, et, but other than that who benefits? Certainly not the US citizens. Certainly not the legal immigrants. Certainly not the Hispanic citizens who now will have to deal with illegals and their crimes and corruption in their neighborhoods.

If you are looking at it through the prism of wanting to expand the size and power of the Democrat Party, the answer is 'yes' to all the above. 

And to anyone who doesn't like it, the response is the one they always use:  'you must be a racist'.

[b_dubb]

because all latinos are like these people?


We don't need no stinking badges!

[pate]

because all latinos are like these people?


We don't need no stinking badges!

I thought they were all like these people:


Blazing Saddles We dont need no stinking badges

[DanTSX]

Nothing yet

Obama is full of shit

[Unquenchable Angst]

again a reminder:



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"""As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."" â₉€Â H. L. Mencken" â€" H.L. Mencken

[Quick Karl]

again a reminder:

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"""As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."" â€ââ,¬Â H. L. Mencken" â€" H.L. Mencken

We're a Republic, NOT a "democracy", but we most definitely do have a People's Moron in the White house.

[PB the Deplorable]

We're a Republic, NOT a "democracy"...

That is true less and less every day.

When laws are ignored, or simply decreed, when court rulings are ignored, when the Founding Documents are despised and ignored, it's no longer a republic. 

When the will of the people is ignored, when the consent of the governed is no longer present, it's not a democracy either.

[paladin1991]

I personally thought it was about the giants and nephilium we fought there. Stargate was already taken out (hidden by Smithsonian. Though parts also "hidden in plain sight" at the British Museum (Elgin Marbels are 'false flag')

Some of you guise has been listening to Steve Quayle. 

[Marc.Knight]

That is true less and less every day.

When laws are ignored, or simply decreed, when court rulings are ignored, when the Founding Documents are despised and ignored, it's no longer a republic. 

When the will of the people is ignored, when the consent of the governed is no longer present, it's not a democracy either.

As nation we are better at conducting research after public policy has been implemented, rather than before it has been implemented.  Expedience seems to be a primary policy driver rather than the product of prudent planning.

[aldousburbank]

We're a Republic, NOT a "democracy"

Dude, do the milkman and the fuller brush salezman and santy claws still come to your house too?