Is everyone doing ok after the shutdown???

[bateman]

Piers Morgan just told me the Statue of Liberty is closed. IT'S LIKE WE'RE LIVING IN SOMALIA.

[FightTheFuture]

Do not panic, citizens, Uncle Sugar will be back to  wasting tax dollars before the end of the week.

[bateman]

Do not panic, citizens, Uncle Sugar will be back to  wasting tax dollars before the end of the week.

But I was told there would be chaos. Another broken promise. Thanks, Obama.

I was planning on eating my neighbors.

[PB the Deplorable]

Whether the Presidency is held by the D's with the R's holding one or both branches of the Congress, or if the President is an R and the Ds hold Congress - either way - the D's and their Big Media allies always blame the R's for the shutdown, and get away with it.

The people should call them out and have them make up their minds.  Is it the President or the Congress that is 'shutting down' the government when they don't agree on a budget or spending levels?  Because it can't just always automatically be the R's regardless of which offices they hold.

Everyone who thinks there is no Media bias or favoritism need look no further than this issue - blaming the R's no matter which end of the Capitol they control.

[PB the Deplorable]

One thing that's interesting is the Party of Big Government telling the R's they - the R's - will be hurt if the government shuts down.  Thanks for the advice, but no thanks.


If the R's were truly united, and the Establishment R's and Rino's were unable to undermine the others (which is probably unfortunately unlikely for more than a few days), a shutdown is in their best interests.  It's probably the only way to ever cut the waste, to actually prioritize and cut back.  And they aren't even proposing to do that this time - they are just trying to end one destructive program.

If they had any real principles and courage, they'd tell Obama and the D's in the Senate that for every day they blocked the defunding of ObamaCare they would permanently lose another Cabinet level Department with those workers (who are mostly Democrat voters) fired - a Department of Education that educates no one, a Department of Energy that produces no energy, fold the VA into the DoD, a Dept of Agriculture that produces no food, a Commerce Dept that produces nothing, Labor, HHS, HUD, Transportation - all Democrat strongholds of waste - gone.  One a day, every day.  After that they can look at each Agency in the remaining Departments, and find more to eradicate.


The same way ObamaCare was rammed down our throats during an instant in time when the D's held everything and had a filibuster proof Senate, that's the way the R's should respond now that they have the House and are able to block implication.  Tit  for tat - if that's how the D's in DC do things when they have the power, then give it right back to them.

All they need is a spokesman to go over the heads of the Media directly to the people and explain it.  The way Reagan used to do it.  Just keep hammering home what they are doing and why, in terms people can understand, in a few sentences.  Then have the guts to stick with it.  If we don't, the country is going to end up like Detroit.

If done correctly, the people would be fully behind them.  It's called leadership.  More and more people are realizing what a disaster ObamaCare is going to be.  Everybody knows we can't go on the way we are going.


Obama needs to go and the Party of Big Government and their Media allies need to be pruned back.  Way back.

[Juan]

Are the Obamacare "navigators" essential personnel?  If they are not, how will we all sign up for Obamacare?  If they are WTF?

[Jnthn932]

This may cause me to lose over 34,000 dollars in wages. I find it funny that the last two times this happened, it's happened while a democrat was in office. The party that promises better economies and more money for the people!! Thank god I listened to Art and invested in gold.

[stevesh]

I emailed my sister, who works for a US government agency in the Middle East, this morning and asked if she was 'essential'. Her reply:

Still waiting for my office to open in DC so they can tell me.  Meanwhile I worked all day.  A lot of it doesn't have to do with who is essential or not, but how the office is funded. My office is not funded with the annual appropriations, we are paid out of a working capital fund, so our office will remain open.  Still waiting to hear how many of us will be working.  Embassies are open for business as usual.  This whole thing is ridiculous.

[ItsOver]

I emailed my sister, who works for a US government agency in the Middle East, this morning and asked if she was 'essential'. Her reply:

Still waiting for my office to open in DC so they can tell me.... 

Geesh... maybe that office was deemed non-essential.  : 

[FightTheFuture]

This may cause me to lose over 34,000 dollars in wages. I find it funny that the last two times this happened, it's happened while a democrat was in office. The party that promises better economies and more money for the people!! Thank god I listened to Art and invested in gold.

You work for da gummit, and in one week you suck 34 large from the tax-payers? Holy shit! No wonder my tax bill  is so freaking huge!

[bateman]

[shell88]

Keeping them out. that's going to be the challenge!

[Grov505th]

Well traffic still sucked this morning coming into work, hopefully it will be better on the way home and tomorrow.

[Yorkshire pud]

Well; I'm okay... Work as usual today.

When I'm King, I'll bang the heads of the politicians together under pain of death if they don't get their shit together. Stick with me guys, I'm yer man.

[stevesh]

CBSNews reported tonight that 82% of government agencies are exempt from the shutdown furloughs. Kind of puts a different spin on the whole thing. Liars on both sides, as usual.

[bateman]

CBSNews reported tonight that 82% of government agencies are exempt from the shutdown furloughs. Kind of puts a different spin on the whole thing. Liars on both sides, as usual.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Monument_Syndrome

[sleeplessinca]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Monument_Syndrome

It's good to see it has a name.
My daughter said that she heard one of the congress people (from MA I think) said she would not take pay as long as anyone wasn't getting paid.  I know it is a little bit grandstandy but they all should follow suit.

[bateman]

It's good to see it has a name.
My daughter said that she heard one of the congress people (from MA I think) said she would not take pay as long as anyone wasn't getting paid.  I know it is a little bit grandstandy but they all should follow suit.

:  They'll get all their wages back. Not that they should.

[PB the Deplorable]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Monument_Syndrome

I noticed this when I was a kid about 7th or 8th grade.  I didn't even really know what politics was.  One year the school system wanted more money so they said they were going to cut band and football unless the voters passed their bond.  I remember thinking it was weird they would cut things that people wanted for sure instead of looking for other less popular things.

Next election, two years later, they were threatening to cut band and football again.  The light bulb clicked on.

[ItsOver]

I love this story.  Now THIS is America.

http://freebeacon.com/wwii-vets-knock-over-shutdown-barrier-to-visit-wwii-memorial/

[analog kid]

This may cause me to lose over 34,000 dollars in wages. I find it funny that the last two times this happened, it's happened while a democrat was in office. The party that promises better economies and more money for the people!! Thank god I listened to Art and invested in gold.

This, of course, has nothing to do with the fact that, every time a democrat is in the White House, the Republicans flip their wigs. This is the party who wanted to shut down the government over Planned Parenthood. Ridiculous cheese dicks kowtowing to the fringe at the expense of the country.

[Jnthn932]

This, of course, has nothing to do with the fact that, every time a democrat is in the White House, the Republicans flip their wigs. This is the party who wanted to shut down the government over Planned Parenthood. Ridiculous cheese dicks kowtowing to the fringe at the expense of the country.

We could go back and forth all day giving examples of times each party did something to negatively impact the country. Fact is, we haven't been this bad  in a long time and it just so happens a socialist err democrat is in office. they need to their shit together and give me my clearance so I can get paid. If people like me don't get paid how am I supposed to pay taxes for all the freeloaders? And Obamas vacations?

[PB the Deplorable]

Since 1976 the Federal government has been shutdown 18 times:


1976 - 10 days - R President (Ford), D's had both Houses

1977 - 12 days - D President (Carter), D's had both Houses
1977 - 8 more days - D President (Carter), D's had both Houses
1977 - 8 more days - D President (Carter), D's had both Houses
1978 - 18 days - D President (Carter), D's had both Houses
1979 - 11 days - D President (Carter), D's had both Houses

1981 - 2 days - R President (Reagan), D's had House, R's had Senate
1982 - 1 day - R President (Reagan), D's had House, R's had Senate
1982 - 3 days - R President (Reagan), D's had House, R's had Senate
1983 - 3 days - R President (Reagan), D's had House, R's had Senate
1984 - 2 days - R President (Reagan), D's had House, R's had Senate
1984 - 1 day - R President (Reagan), D's had House, R's had Senate
1986 - 1 day - R President (Reagan), D's had House, R's had Senate
1987 - 1 day - R President (Reagan), D's had both Houses

1990 - 4 days - R President (Bush I), D's had both Houses

1995 - 5 days - D President (Clinton), R's had both Houses
1995-96 - 21 days - D President (Clinton), R's had both Houses

2013 - D President (Obama), R's have the House, D's have the Senate



I don't see any consistencies or trends in this as far as which party does what - both parties are involved whether holding the Presidency or one or both Houses of Congress.  I think it's healthy for our elected officials of both parties to stand up for their principles once in awhile.  The Federal government is just not that important in the everyday lives of the people of this country - other than taking our money and racking up a massive debt.

One thing I've noticed is that in each case Big Media has blamed the Republicans - well, except the shutdowns during the Carter years, when the D's had the Presidency and both Houses - as if anyone standing in the way of the perpetual growth, waste, and incompetence in government is automatically wrong.


Something that might work better is going back to passing budgets for each Cabinet level Department one by one, with input from the Administration during the process, and sending each of them up to the President separately during the summer.  That's what's been done most years in the past.  The budgets are due before the end of the fiscal year (Sept 30).  Since Obama got there Congress has not passed a single budget.  Each year it's been one big Continuing Resolution - even in 2009 and 2010 when the D's held both the House and the Senate.

[Falkie2013]

You work for da gummit, and in one week you suck 34 large from the tax-payers? Holy shit! No wonder my tax bill  is so freaking huge!

He's the coffee and speed supplier to all those NSA warchers in Utah.
Volume, volume, volume.

[bateman]

JESUS CHRIST, this just gets worse & worse!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/02/government-shutdown-damage_n_4031714.html

Arizona:
More than 30 people looking to raft on the Colorado river were turned away.

Hawaii:
The state's four commissaries were forced to sell off perishable items before shutting down Tuesday.
Research into rat lungworm disease at the University of Hawaii was halted.

Iowa:
A cafeteria in an Iowa federal office building usually has 500 to 600 customers a day. There were 200 on Tuesday.

Massachusetts:
A local IRS office was closed.
A government employee union official estimates 95 percent of staff members in her department were furloughed.

Montana:
The Bozeman Fish Technology Center, the Bozeman Fish Health Center, the Creston National Fish Hatchery, the hatchery in Ennis and the Montana Fish and Wildlife Conservation Office in Billings all closed.

My eyes glazed over before I could finish the rest.

[MV/Liberace!]

today I ordered a pamphlet on "rimming" from pueblo, co. the order was put on hold until further notice. what's happening to my country?

[aldousburbank]

today I ordered a pamphlet on "rimming" from pueblo, co. the order was put on hold until further notice. what's happening to my country?

No more rimming? ThAts iT! I'm mOvIng!

[bateman]

today I ordered a pamphlet on "rimming" from pueblo, co. the order was put on hold until further notice. what's happening to my country?

There are, uhh, plenty of online video tutorials if you don't want to wait..

[PB the Deplorable]

JESUS CHRIST, this just gets worse & worse!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/02/government-shutdown-damage_n_4031714.html

My eyes glazed over before I could finish the rest.

One wonders why the Federal government is involved with rafting the Colorado, stores in Hawaii, fish in Montana, etc in the first place.  As you said, there is so much more.

All this pork and waste - we can have this, sky high taxes, and trillions of unpayable debt, or we can have a sound currency and a future.  But not both.

[stevesh]

Any chance we can shut down the Postal Service, too ? Didn't have the arm to throw it from the truck, I guess.


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