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Quote from: onan on August 11, 2011, 09:51:12 AM
I don't listen to noory. I don't know what programs and agencies this guy wanted to cut. Anytime someone tells me how much I am going to save I consider what costs will increase. Black and white statements are hardly ever accurate or well thought out. And sorry to be skeptical but any shit for brain that noory has on looses any credibility.

Yes, Onan, let's not forget the brilliant economic move they made in the 70's when they closed the mental institutions and the mentally ill filled the streets and the "crazies" became the "homeless."  After great suffering, starvation, inability to get/take medication regularly and being victimized by criminals, laws were passed to prevent them from sitting on the sidewalk.  They protested, were arrested, diagnosed, given pills and released until they did property damage, which often happens when the mentally ill do not have their meds.

The mentally ill now live in prison in a cycle of incarcerations punctuated by short periods of time on the streets or briefly in "transitional" housing.  One person told me he liked prison because he felt safer locked in a cell. 

In California there was a brief flurry of interest in the huge amount of dollars, a political transfer of wealth, that took place when a huge budget moved from the column called "Mental Health" to the column called "Prisons." The prison system is one large sector which is robust in the present recession.

Yes, we saved money when we closed the residential mental hospitals because they said the new drugs could make people so functional they could be "out in the community," a euphemism for our society's new "plan" for the mentally ill "homeless, hungry, hopeless." Think you have trouble finding/affording a place to live?  Try it with several felonies on your record.

I've never met a doctor who thought closing the hospitals was a good idea. And you guessed it, the prison budget increase is many times more than the savings gained from closing the hospitals. 

Wardens +1, Doctors -1

Anagrammy

Quote from: Lester on August 10, 2011, 07:49:18 PM
Last week (first week August 2011) I was landing at McCarren (Las Vegas)to the east and the standard approach from the west is over Pahrump.  I had a south facing window and as we lost altitude over Pahrump I looked out my window seat and saw very clearly Art’s house and antenna farm.  It is exactly as described and pictured on the Internet.

Good spotting, Lester.  Any big moving trucks out front?

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This is too funny- who says Chinese computer nerds have no sense of humor?

Go to googlemaps.

Enter China as your present location

Enter Taiwan as your destination

Hit "get directions"

Read Number 48


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Anne Curry is very personable.  She replaced Meredith Vierra who quit to spend time with family (yep, the family that she didn't notice she had before she took the life-gobbling job on the Today show after Katie Couric left).

So... the insipid hosting seems to be spreading.  Today she interviewed the detective handlingthe case of Breeanna Rodriguez, the 3 year old girl who vanished in a small Missouri town.  After reviewing the details of her disappearance, the detective was obviously startled when Anne Curry asked, "What would be your message to the person who has Breeanna?"

He looked into the camera which was coming in for a closeup and stammered, "If, if you are the person who has Breeanna....give her back."  Then he looked at Ms. Curry, "That's what this is all about, getting Breeanna back."  The look he gave her said "you are un-fucking-believable."

Maybe lame interviewer's virus arrived here on moon rocks.  I sense a corollation because the quality of newscasts markedly diminished after Apollo brought home the rocks. 

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Agreed, Onan.  When we listen to Open Lines on Coast, we want to hear what crazy shit is going on out there.  We like to hear crackpots treated respectfully while being asked incisive questions like, "Why didn't you assume the thumps on the roof were pinecones?  Why made you think it was Mothman walking?"  That way the listeners can evaluate the believability of the report.  And if they keep going to where they have cornered the alien in the dining room and whacked it with a candlestick provided by Mr. Mustard, all the better!

I don't like to see the mentally ill being confronted in a demeaning way.  It takes the fun out of it and makes a person a bully, like Howard Stern.

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Roger, I read your post and have to agree.   There are positive aspects of George's disappointing Coast hosting performance...

I feel smarter when I hear George Noory.  I feel reassured that people of marginal competence can still find --and keep-- work in America.  It does frighten me that the show on Gacy included the description "will review the gruesome details" but my concern was assuaged when George decided instead not to get too graphic.

There is nothing like a sonorous, boring, repetitive, soothing, predictable host with nothing substantial to add to get you to sleep when the world is churning with world-changing events in every sector.

For this I am grateful.

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PS.  To answer your comment about Coastgab being, well, boring... think "salon," Roger.  This is the electronic equivalent of a salon; therefore, it is only as boring as the people who come and the subjects raised.

Quote from: Morgus on August 09, 2011, 07:14:11 PM
Looks like another sucky non-paranormal guest/topic on tonight's C2C show from the C2C website promo:
Tue 08-09   Defending a Monster
Defense attorney Sam Amirante and co-author Danny Broderick, will discuss what it was like to defend one of America's worst serial killers, John Wayne Gacy, and review the gruesome details of the case and why it’s important to our system of justice that such criminals get a fair trial.

When I first saw the title "Defending a Monster" I thought the guest would be a Noory-lover trying to defend their hero, Noory... 

LOL, Morgus! I thought it was about the Bigfoot film, maybe a new analysis.  I was excited there for a moment, thinking it was a paranormal station.

But NO, it's just the summer replacement for george's usual late night hobby of "playing" with small animals.

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Quote from: Bart on August 10, 2011, 01:47:46 AM
I don't think they LET those nuts on.  I think they are forced to Call THEM because there are so few volunteer callers!  This show is sinking fast.  And if G ever did have friends, I wonder if they've also kicked him to the curb after hearing who the jerk really is.  He is pukey.

THANK GOD!  An American job sector opening up - paid Coast to Coast callers!

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Don't forget, Avi, they jumped in to take equal advantage of any illegal immigrants who might not understand the language.

Fits their target market perfectly!  Cha-ching!  Come all you vulnerable yearning to breathe free and we'll suck the life out of you.

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Quote from: Tara on August 09, 2011, 03:51:30 PM
I recall several years ago Noory made some comment indicating that he didn't know that objects of different weights, given no air resistance, fall at the same rate.  Elementary, my dear Noory, Galileo discovered that four hundred years ago.  A few minutes later Noory corrected himself due to several calls that the  screener obviously had.  I knew then that his supposed love of science is just another one of his many lies.

I remember the Galileo story from elementary school.  Our teacher used it as an example of how observation + curiosity leads to the great discoveries in science.   Maybe George was absent that day, maybe home playing with small animals. 

Maybe he means he always loved the sound of the word.  SCI- ENCE....he likes to say it  SCI- ENCE....he likes to hear other people say it in his presence SCI- ENCE. 

So, Michio, how did you first discover you were interested in SCI- ENCE? 
I have always been interested in SCI- ENCE.  We have that in common, that's why I love having you on the show.....

Yeah, right.

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Quote from: 11angeleyes11 on August 09, 2011, 10:17:00 AM
I was forum surfing this morning, trying to read what I missed by only listening to the first hour of the show last nite, when I went to the Coast Facebook page.  That is probably one of the most interactive commentaries that post during the show.

It happened!  The whole thread from last nite was deleted.  I read the commentaries posted this morning. 

Imagine what if. . the TPTB on a forum took out a whole thread here how you would feel. 

I am not making a judgment or value call on this, again I am just trying to do fair and accurate reporting.  However, this is an issue separate and apart from that.  I do not favor censorship in any form.  It does make you wonder, however, what happened to the mystery thread.

This is like a personal situation I am in.  Due to disasters, I am having to stay with a one hundred percent staunch Obama supporter.  I attempted to bring Jerome Corsi's book into the house about Obama's birth certificate.  There was a book banning even before the book was checked out of the library.

Relating a mere thread censorship back to Coast,see, where this could be leading.  Apologizes are given in advance if this was a technical difficulty  of Facebook.

Sorry if this post seems rambling, it is just that I am trying to model after Rodger, before he found out he may be getting bored with the website.  As an aside, the last post he made was acutally the first I could actually follow.   

I just figured Roger was sober-posting.

Ana

Quote from: M Knight on August 09, 2011, 09:59:31 AM
are you referring to a particular news article?  I found a small report on msnbc about a letter from the CEO, but nothing of substance.

No, I'm talking about them losing 20% of their value in the stock market plunge. 

Ana

Quote from: James G. on August 09, 2011, 12:18:07 AM
George Noory Sucks! There's no reason to have any further information. He "acts' like a journalist, a historian and a scientist when he has no such experience. Any program who would employ "Dr" Richard C. Hoagland as any adviser is its own parody.

What a shameless joke Coast-To-Coast AM is today.

George Noory Sucks! Enough said, all, in the English language! Another late-night infomercial posing as intellectual thought! Don't make me laugh at this garbage posing as independent, American thought!

Ha!

Good to hear from you.  Welcome to the Coast to Coast AM Death Watch.  Be sure to check out Art Bell Quits--he's B A A A A A C K!

Anagrammy

I so hope they go into receivership.  They are a bunch of criminals who got a big handout and used it to fund more debt collectors to file bogus lawsuits, foreclose on people using signature machines, buy debt from other banks and pursue collection without proper paperwork.  My daughter has been their victim.  My inlaws both worked at Bank of America and my ex told me they would come home and talk about how bad the bank was and how it skirted the law.

Recently I got a notice that my son's disability check in the future would be distributed on a Bank of America debit card.  Yep, the Bank of America Thug Group is the Bank of Choice for the U. S. Government. 

Of course, BOA could just reorganize and rebrand themselves to keep going.  The Bank of South of Canada and North of Mexico.

So we idiots won't know who it is.

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Quote from: JustOneFix on August 08, 2011, 09:55:33 PM
I seldom agree with Roger, but this is one of those times. I find myself posting less and less as of late. The same topics can only be covered so many times before they get redundant. I still read the board daily but post very little.

We need some new topics and some fresh posters.

We seem to be in a holding pattern seeing what's going to happen as the show drowns and Art Bell has returned to the USA.  Also, I think Michael Vandeven indicated he had a major rework for this site.  Now that Nabila is gone for such an extended time, I'm hoping we'll see that happen.  It's a great group but every pool has to have circulation to stay fresh.

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Quote from: Roger on August 08, 2011, 04:54:31 AM
I think this chap on tonight got a little miffed . . . noted by his several pauses, and at one point I recall him saying
George had gone way past what the guest had planned on talking about.  "The God Part of the Brain" guy that is. It was
kind of funny to my sensibilities, that this guy was pretty much playing the role of a god, saying he created this
concept and how the world was being saved by this new recognition that this part of the brain was inbuilt, but he didn't seem
to have the "atheist part of the brain" down too well.  George's processes of thinking seemed to me to be busy calculating
how this topic was going to be received and so was formulating questions to accommodate 'true believers'.

Although I don't buy the theistic hypothesis as received, the way this guy got peeved at George showed to me he hadn't
really developed his 'first principles' very well, like: how does consciousness come from prior existing non-conscious
components.  Or, for that matter, bodily life from non-living sub-components.  Instead both George and his guest seemed
to revolve their attention to short-circuits in the brain's logic 'faculty'.  Of course conspiracy had to come into it.

George never got miffed, but this guy (I really don't remember his name, not trying to demean him at all. In fact admire
much of his observations) avoided some pretty good questions by George.

George was not bad tonight.  I find myself admiring George more and more as time goes on.  It cannot be an easy job. I'm
wandering in this post, sorry.  Not that enthused about the relentless harping on George as I once was. In fact, this site
is actually getting kind of boring.

We are gathered around the death bed of the show we once loved.  It is a shadow of its former self, having been devoured by the wasting disease Noorymia.  Even though the body is curled in fetal position and receives artificial feeding, we feel an obligation to see it through to the natural end.

It is normal for a distant relative to pop in and declare that the show looks fine, is breathing and blinking.  Such relatives don't stay long at the bedside, don't share memories of the good old days, and yes, they do find the vigil, well... boring.

Maybe you don't belong at the bedside, weren't that close or whatever.  The cafeteria is in the basement and leave the candy for the nurses, Roger.

Anagrammy

Quote from: Addis0n on August 08, 2011, 02:09:43 PM
Things werent always this way my friend

LOVE YOUR AVATAR, AddisOn.  As soon as I saw it, I thought, this is the best evidence yet that Art will be back on the air.

Anagrammy

Quote from: Area51 on August 08, 2011, 02:59:49 PM
Oops, sorry I posted my reply with your quote.


I'm with you all the way anagrammy (by the way, I like your style and enjoy your posts). Anyway, everything I've seen and feel so far lead me to believe Art will be back broadcasting. How much and where is the next question. Anyway, I'm excited at the prospect! Everyone could use some good news these days.

Thanks for the kind words, Area 51.  I am cautiously excited about what Art's next project will be. 

Anagrammy

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Specifically, Art mentioned getting the place fit to live in.  Airyn is the one interested in landscaping.  I am sure she is in shock going from the tropics to the desert and wants more green around her. This is the behavior of a woman nesting, albeit reluctantly.

The only thing Art has said about the thing we care about the most, ART+RADIO is that he has something "in the works" and will be letting us know later.

Anagrammy

Quote from: texaskdog on August 07, 2011, 03:44:05 PM
Heck I just want these doofuses to balance the budget.  I don't care who gets the credit/blame for it.

Too bad you don't hold elected office.

Ana

You guys are on the wrong track.  All the chatter on both Facebook pages, Art's and Airyn's is about decorating, buying plants, updating the home, landscaping, maybe putting in a pool yes/no, maybe buying a whole bigger house... and lots of "we will miss you's" to people in the Philippines.

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OR, we can spend some defense money on nation-building in America.   If we don't improve the schools here, our undereducated children will have no choice but to join the military.  Wait, maybe that's the whole point!  They've determined that the draft is what caused American objections to the war in Vietnam.  America won't need a draft and can avoid war protests as we continue our "efforts" (to further enrich the rich) overseas.

The American Dream:  American Imperialism Without End With Volunteer Army.  Our young people just won't be any other options:  can't afford college and no jobs available for those without a college education.

Of course, there is still the choice to move to China, and assemble iPhones, and be part of The Chinese Dream.

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Sarah Silverman should play Amy in the movie.  As far as her talent goes, you don't win awards when you have no talent. 

Ana

Did anyone notice how Ian mentioned that he had twittered and also posed on his Facebook about Galen coming on his show?  In the words of the man we all love to hate, "Something's going on...."  My ears pricked up when he added details about his postings that he was attracting people with tidbits of information mentioning that he was having Galen back for an update.

In other words, Ian was already in cyberspace advertising his show when Noory took the guest.  I must ask this question, is Galen a whore or what?  I know, it's an existential question requiring time to reflect but, Galen, really?  Why didn't he just say, "Sorry George, I've been covering this with Ian for years...."

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Quote from: Morgus on August 05, 2011, 08:33:36 PM
There was a couple callers from Hawaii last night and Noory of course told them the studio on the big island is now ready for him.

Notice he says, "Ready for me" rather than us.  Guess the production team is going to stay in LA and George is going to try to do the show from a tropical island.  Hmmm.  Who does that sound like?

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Quote from: HAL 9000 on August 05, 2011, 04:50:55 PM
Latin translation: "God loves you (deus te amat) and I do too."

Can you believe Ian is doing a Dan Rather?  Ian loves us. Really?

For as literate and 'hip' Ian considers himself, doesn't he remember what a gob-stopping horror it was when Dan Rather tried to be Walter Cronkite.  He wanted a "So that's the way it is" for himself and somehow picked the single word "Courage" as his signature endnote.  People laughed.  He ended up with egg on his face and people making fun of him for YEARS.  I maintain that was the real, albeit delayed, reason for him being let go.  Like OJ Simpson justice...it just came late. (this is me kidding all you historians).

And in Latin, no less.  My answer:  "Hey Ian, post hoc ergo propter hoc," which loosely translated means I went to college too.


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(Actually it means "after it, therefore because of it.")

Quote from: rbduck on August 05, 2011, 05:17:55 PM
I know I'm new here and haven't read all ten thousand posts, but I like the way Ian prepares for all his shows , but he get's people on and want's to inject so many of his on knowledge and opinions he constantly interrupts people and cut them off to do so. He needs 5 more hours of program so his guests and callers can have enough time to finish a thought before he interrupts them.

Welcome, rbduck.  Ian is so well-prepared he has more to say than the author of the book.  Maybe he could give an hour of just him talking about the guest's subject and THEN let the guest on. 

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Quote from: Master_of_Reality on August 05, 2011, 11:42:29 AM
Fair enough Ana. My apologies for any residual afterthoughts, written or pictorial.

No prob.  My all-day spa treatment tomorrow includes free brain image scrub... I have to go regularly anyway due to Paper Boy's avatar!

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Priceless.  OMG, Paper Boy, it's a Twilight Zone episode...

"Hello, George,"

"Hello, look Tommy, it's Mark--sit here on Chair 3, from Washington, if I remember, right?"

"Right, George.  Snohomish, Washington."

"People probably get ya mixed up with Washington, D.C. all the time, don't they Mark?"

"Yes, George.  I love your shop.  You are the bestest of the best and I don't care who knows it."

"Ha Ha, Mark, well, I'm always glad to hear it, never get tired of it, in fact, why don't you say it again."

"Er, sure, George.  I love your shop.  You and Tommy are the best," he looks at the other barber, reading a magazine.  He looks around-- there's no one else in the barbershop.

"Long time traveler, first time hair cut"

"Well, we just love those, so welcome, Mark, that's your name, right?

"Right."

"So, what can I do for you today?"

"Just a trim, George, a little off the top..." 

"Reminds me of the time my parents drove up to Detroit, passing through with me and my sister.  I was only about eight..."

Camera fades as Rod Sterling walks in.  The barbershop is frozen in tableau.  "George Noory, a man caught in time.  Cycling through the same visitors, the same haircuts, the same comments and stories.  Seemingly innocent, but only at first. Visitors seldom come back.  Since the freeway came in, there's no through traffic anymore.  Few come this way because seen from the outsider's view, the scene is off, somehow canned or...maybe stale. Eerily malevolent in its repetition. 

"See you next time, George."

"OK. Get ready for that."   Camera pans the stillness of the room, the slow fanblades circling overhead. They follow George, who walks stiffly up the stairs.  He opens the door at the top.  To nothing but sky....

Because George Noory lives... in the Twilight Zone.


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