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Quote from: spookcat on June 12, 2018, 01:45:34 AM
My current baby:

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EDIT: in the second picture I'm showing her determination to get my oatmeal. It was one of her favorite foods.

Nice Tortie! It dispels the myth that cats are pure carnivores. Dyna likes strawberry yogurt and sour cream and onion potato chips and will pursue both aggresively.

Quote from: teknoslag on June 12, 2018, 01:40:25 AM

Thanks! Iv'e tried to train Dyna Prime to stand like the Maine Coon but her primordial pouch (belly) hangs over her feet and she loses her balance.

Quote from: spookcat on June 12, 2018, 01:29:42 AM
Ok. But just to clarify: I am in no way trying to compete with Barts nightly desserts. Bart Ell is Legacy.
Does that get me out of any legal issues?

Cats and desserts are the two sweetest things in life. So this is a value added BG user experience.

Quote from: spookcat on June 12, 2018, 01:14:55 AM
Are you suggesting I should make this a daily thing?

Sure. I would make sure to visit more often

Quote from: spookcat on June 11, 2018, 10:58:05 PM
Here everyone, have a cat for the night!

Thank you. I am building up my collection of the best cat photos.

Quote from: Jinger Rat Snapps on June 11, 2018, 10:21:31 PM
Why does capital letters annoy people?  I never figured that out.

That never bothered me. It reminds me of copy coming off a teletype.

What is really getting on my nerves as of late is store signage in all lowercase letters. I like nice all block capital letters for this purpose. I blame the idiot trendy snowflake designers that don't read.

Quote from: Epaphroditus on June 11, 2018, 01:40:53 AM
The  carnival photo was actually sent to Heather by the blond in the photo who also owns the photo , she sent it to see if the Heather she was hearing on air was the same HW she had known earlier in life .

Goes to my point that the photo is really HW. It would be too elaborate of a stunt to counterfeit for no gain - like retooling a print shop to make dollar bills. "Oh lets see if I can find an old friend that will post a picture of them self with someone that looks like me on old film stock in a scrapbook so they can debate whether the photo is real on the internet for the next year."

She is actually smart. Smart people can still make bad decisions, lie around the edges of a narrative and conceal things. Most of what she says is actually true on the big picture.  The devil is in the omission of details and slant of the information for a desired effect to preserve abilities to spin or course correct in the future.  Its actually a way of letting those around her make their own version of truth in the absence of facts which is just belief.

The only trouble is we don't want a quality like this in a broadcaster unless they were to admit they were there to entertain - not inform.

Quote from: yoursongs on June 10, 2018, 11:50:49 PM
I won't talk down to you, and try to disprove every point you make.  It's not worth it.  One difference between you and [retarded] is that she is in a very public business, where a personal history of some sort is almost a requirement to sustain credibility.  It's fine not to want your picture taken, quite normal.  I am saying that for for a public broadcaster, it is quite abnormal and not credible.  What is a "PSO"?  Other than Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra?  I disagree with you that the 2 photos we are discussing are of the same person.  Let me ask you, do you believe she is half Chinese?  Do you believe she has a 7 ft. tall father?  Do you a believe a hundred other things she claims that can be proven to be false?  If so, go for, she's all yours :-)

Thanks for keeping decorum to agree to disagree about the photo. I understand your point about as a broadcaster she no longer has the luxury to hide her photos and background if she want to get ahead, that is highly abnormal. Supporters and detractors alike behind the scenes baffled or taken in with all kinds of little stories that can't be cleanly reconciled or verified. She has made statements that can be proven false (for example the two stories about something as innocent as how she heard her first AB show - one or both of these stories by logic must be wrong. And if she would lie once, why not twice? If so, nothing can be taken for granted or at face value until verified. (no pun intended)

The features on both photos could be someone who had at least some oriental or Native American background. (i.e. the skin,hair, eye color and epicanthal fold.) To say much more than that or to fully trust her tales about a 7 ft tall father or stepfather would be foolish. The odds of anyone being this tall are 1 in 1.1 million.

The photos could have been digitally altered and that can be forensically analyzed for this, but that is not my expertise. I'd be curious if a facial recognition expert would compare the two photos mathematically and give odds that the person is one in the same or not. It is doable, but is it worth it? Would it prove anything new?

Quote from: Sean92008 on June 10, 2018, 06:49:45 PM
She was, she had a leash and harness and we'd go on walks.  I'd take her into the studio and to my work.  She peed on her own though.

I could see her aura in a totally dark room, she came and gave me a mental image of my girlfriend at the time kicking under the sheets to push her off the bed.  Oh, Charlie was also a ST: TNG fan.

I could tell this kitty was like a 100-watt bulb in a 40-watt world.

Quote from: Sean92008 on June 10, 2018, 06:36:49 PM
Considering your screen name, I'm disappointed you didn't think of this earlier.

Sean, please post the full size image that you had as an avatar. (Cat on keyboard) That cat looks very intelligent for some reason.

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Thank you

Quote from: WeinerInHand on June 10, 2018, 11:32:18 AM
Random posts on Dave's FB page

Dave likes random.

Quote from: yoursongs on June 10, 2018, 01:27:58 AM
Do you think the person in what is now known at "the carnival photo" is the same person that is in the "only other photo"?  I don't.  The nose does not match at all, for starters.  I still believe the person in "the carnival photo" is a boy.  I think HW pointed her listeners to her friend's facebook page, just to get them to stop asking for more pictures.  The "friend" went along with the scheme and posted the photo.  Another thing.....if you were a close friend of a famous person who died, and you were supposed to be "his legacy", would you make part of your legacy site a memorial or tribute, with pictures of you and said famous person TOGETHER?  As close as they were, you mean to tell me there are NO PICTURES of her working with Art???  It boggles the mind.  Who would believe that?  My theory is that she is possibly STILL in the sex industry, and feels she can't show her face to the world because of that.  The 2nd reason is that just maybe she DID TRANSITION to female somewhere along the line.  The 3rd reason is that she is somehow physically impaired and knows that if this were seen (known), it would ruin her image with fans.  If you can think of another real reason for the "no photo" thing I'd like to hear other theories.

Yes, she is in both the carnival photo and the publicity photo we all know. Look at the eye to eyebrow distance  and eye shape, jawline, forehead and other features.
I agree, the nose between the two photos is the most different, but this can be explained by the 26 year difference between the photos. As we age, the cartilage in our nose and ears is the one thing that continues to grow. Part of the reason is her head is tilted slightly back in the Forward lighting (carnival photo) and side lighting (publicity photo), also make a difference.

As for the rest, a few points: 1. Some people are phobic about having their picture taken. They need not be ugly or crippled - most who suffer this look fairly average. I am also phobic about this through life such that now there are only about a dozen photos of me in existence and only 3 have been digitized. From my vantage point, I don't take photos of myself with famous people I've met because it is not how I remember the event. I remember looking at the famous person and not through a third-party looking at us. I cherish the memory more than a photo. This phobia might be hereditary. I only have one hazy picture of my paternal grandmother who lived in the age of photography, but I have dozens of memories, one of which involve her whispering "no no no" and blushing when the camera was aimed her way. I would have asked to save her driver's license, except one problem - she never learned to drive. But she raised 5 kids, cooked, sewed, and painted and lived a good life.

2. Heather is/was a tom boy. She has talked on the air about rebuilding muscle cars and refusing to wear anything pink or purple here on site. The trans rumour does not fit - and is based on context of a hint of lip shadow in one photo!?  Friday on air, she akwardly compared those who got the transgender surgery to getting a tattoo. On another show, she teased the trannies as callously as any political forum here about the bathroom issue. If she had any transgender fans, all but those with the thickest skin have probably moved along, including the old lady cat trannies*. While she is not a hater, she does not give a rat's ass about anything LGBT, either.

3. I doubt she still works in the sex industry, and her own time in that industry as a PSO was out of necessity as she described the work as repulsive. (No disagreement from me there)

*I expect a barrage of crazy cat trans lady photos. It is BG, after all.

Yes - Going For The One (1977)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8AJNzq2B0s

Saga - Wind Him Up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J0QdXBY0wo

Roxy Music - Out of the Blue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7HMeupNb8Y

Norman Rose - Deteriorata (A warped but more true version of the Desiderata)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1NAwlepnSs

Quote from: Radio Activity on June 05, 2018, 03:20:24 PM
My new favorite podcast. Ask A Spaceman with Dr. Paul Matthew Sutter. He makes astronomy and physics interesting and fun. Great voice and an excellent delivery. His genuine enthusiasm for the sharing science is infectious, and he takes questions from listeners. The Ask A Spaceman catalog is up to 80 episodes so plenty to binge on. He also hosts Space Radio on WCBE Columbus. Also on youtube but I haven't looked over there yet.

Paul M. Sutter
http://www.pmsutter.com

Ask A Spaceman
http://www.pmsutter.com/shows/askaspaceman

Space Radio
http://www.pmsutter.com/shows/spaceradio

Thanks for the heads up!

Quote from: GravitySucks on June 09, 2018, 05:54:22 PM
Ever since he heard about the bellgabathon he has been positioning himself as bellgabber of the year.

He is short list material for sure.

Quote from: Ghost on June 09, 2018, 04:05:53 PM
Search BG, MV posted Art’s deposition - toward the end of the deposition Art says he sent his son to hide in Oregon, circa about the same time!  I say Art knew Heather from WAY back then.

There is about a five year difference in HW's age and Art Jr.'s age, so that is basically impossible. Aldous has also confirmed she is not related to Art. The carnival picture while she is indeed on the left of that photo (I'd bet $1000 that is her)  is too circumstantial to tell us much. Just a heavy metal and muscle car kind of gal circa 1990 with a vague resemblance to Art. Part of me thinks HW actually takes delight in that resemblance and the rumors she is his daughter.

I look like vaguely like Connie Willis, except my hair is dark brown, but I think she dyes hers blond as the roots are showing LOL (Sorry, Connie - I'll get you some donuts and milk to make up for it if we ever meet)

Quote from: GravitySucks on June 09, 2018, 04:00:20 PM
Oh geeez. You just had to go there. Did you know that Ann B. Leonard was a substitute teacher?

LOL, I did not know that. I still can't get the image of Ann B. Davis making apple turnovers out of my head.

As for going there, I had no intention.  She brought it up on the air last night.

I've not been privy to all what is discussed on discord or what MV and others really know, these are just the breadcrumbs in my own mind. There are plenty of rumors and I don't believe any of them until I see real evidence.

Last night she nearly encouraged those that were interested to find her high school yearbook where she was voted the weirdest girl in her class so to speak.

Given she was born in 1976, I presume that would be the circa 1994 yearbooks from her stomping grounds in the Ashland and Medford OR areas.

I've stayed away from ever registering with classmates.com as most people from high school I would sooner forget, but there might be a few brave souls that have already fed the beast that could always look here.

I also find it an odd coincidence Art's network was headquartered at a Medford station in the Chancellor Broadcasting and Jacor days of C2C in the 1990s. Is there a connection there perhaps?

Quote from: ItsOver on June 09, 2018, 02:17:53 PM

Why does Falkie have a fake version of this sign when he could print a real version of it for the Legacy?

Quote from: Norm on June 09, 2018, 11:29:04 AM
She's not going anywhere. The whole thing is a publicity stunt to jack up the number of listeners. Even if you could manage the long, uphill hike to reach Tikaboo Peak your still going to be under surveillance by EG&G armed security. Tikaboo Peak is 26 miles to the east of Area 51. It is the closest publicly accessible vantage point with a view of the area.


https://youtu.be/YPDzict4PNw

Her goal is to cross the border of Area 51, not necessarily to get a view of it, unless she of course gets lucky enough to evade several layers of security on a several mile hike. (I'd give the odds of this happening as about .00001%)

On the other hand, the chances of her getting a $750 fine and Misdemeanor Trespassing charge at minimum if she crosses the line are basically 99.999% I would not predict her getting more than 20 feet inside the border before she is detained and held until the Lincoln County Sheriff arrives to give her the ticket. If she does this and gets hundreds of more subscribers and pays a $750 fine that would be seen as an investment. (Tax experts, can you write off tickets as a business expense? LOL)

I don't know what rules could be violated by using a radio show (if her plan was on KCAA, it would bring about FCC rules) to instigate people to follow her to the border and premeditating and planning what she knows to be an illegal act of trespassing. I would suppose the precedents would go to demonstrations at military bases in the 1960s and anti-nuclear nuclear demonstrations at Rocky Flats, Hanford, etc. Except, I doubt any of these were instigated by singular broadcasters.

Are there overall blanket charges that exist for instance that would read along the lines of "disrupting secure operations of a Federal military installation?" (Even if there are only a dozen followers.) The feds could try something like that, only if to use her as an example, given the atypical situation of her not being a tourist who crosses the line on a whim that could try to claim ignorance.

I doubt George Knapp and the I-team will be willing to help given that bridge has burned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqSluNfBQgk

Quote from: brig on June 08, 2018, 10:54:11 PM
This is the problem when you only pretend to have unscreened upen lines, you get all the kitty can, and painted rock people on your friends list.

If Keith was really getting on her case about things, I wonder if it is exactly this kind of call he was trying to censor or keep at bay.

Quote from: brig on June 08, 2018, 10:24:12 PM
Heather is making a painted rock garden?  I wonder how long the paint will hold up in that sun out there in the desert?

First thought I had. A couple seasons and rainstorms and they will just be ordinary rocks.

Quote from: SergeantMajor on June 08, 2018, 09:00:01 PM
Open lines should be interesting

I'm sitting here with a cat on my lap, catching up in this thread. This is as dangerous as dabbling with the Ouji board.

I've said it before, but the format is one thing Heather has right. 30 min warmup - 3 1/2 hours of guest with the real bumpers.
(I hate the split show thing, and glorified sound effects for bumpers -  there I said it)

Quote from: sydtron on June 07, 2018, 11:37:41 PM
Me too!  I have an audio book about the history of area 51, can't think of the woman who wrote the book. But it is fasinsting!

With a surprise ending...
https://www.amazon.com/Area-51-Uncensored-Americas-Military/dp/0316202304

Quote from: GravitySucks on June 07, 2018, 11:20:15 PM
When I was out at Nellis for Redflag in 78 or 79 the tower at the Dugway runway was manned.  I know that for a fact.

Cool!

No doubt part of Dugway's mission is related to Area 51 (Groom Lake) and the Tonopah Range etc- which is properly a detachment of Edwards Air Force Base.

Dreamland (another thing entirely) is the name for the restricted airspace - not the land below it.

Quote from: GravitySucks on June 07, 2018, 11:14:59 PM
Dugway?

Dugway Proving Grounds has been called Area 52 or the new Area 51, but this is disinformation.  The environmental cleanup records clearly denote Tonopah Test Range as Area 52.