Putin has political opponent assassinated

[Kelt]

Right before he's due to go on a march against Russian intervention in Ukraine, some guy 'randomly' targets him and shoots him four times in the back.

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31669061

[albrecht]

Right before he's due to go on a march against Russian intervention in Ukraine, some guy 'randomly' targets him and shoots him four times in the back.

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31669061

And there is this little tidbit from the yahoo news Reuters version:
"Putin condemned the killing and took the investigation under presidential command"
http://news.yahoo.com/russian-opposition-leader-boris-nemtsov-shot-dead-moscow-220603814.html

[RealCool Daddio]

Gunned down in sight of the Kremlin:

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[Kelt]

Apparently he was preparing to release a report on Russia/Putin's intervention in Ukraine.

Russia seems to be on track to be the place it was 30 years ago, under Vlad.

[Gd5150]

And there is this little tidbit from the yahoo news Reuters version:
"Putin condemned the killing and took the investigation under presidential command"
http://news.yahoo.com/russian-opposition-leader-boris-nemtsov-shot-dead-moscow-220603814.html

Ah yes Reuters, the MSNBC of world media. Gotta lovem!

[RealCool Daddio]

Apparently he was preparing to release a report on Russia/Putin's intervention in Ukraine.

Russia seems to be on track to be the place it was 30 years ago, under Vlad.

Yep. Or as Fox News and their conservative fans call it: "real leadership".

[Kelt]

Yep. Or as Fox News and their conservative fans call it: "real leadership".

It's kind of offensive to attach the word 'News' to anything involving the FOX network.

FOX does not disseminate news.

[FightTheFuture]

Nothing to see here, folks. Just part of Dear Leader's flexibility pact with Putin.

[Kelt]

Nothing to see here, folks. Just part of Dear Leader's flexibility pact with Putin.

[Chaim]

The guy was a charismatic NOBODY.
He ran a pro-US/CIA party that didn't even get a single seat in the Duma.
More likely he was assassinated by CIA goons to create some kind of (unwilling) martyr.


http://youtu.be/69Qwju5nJ-w
(turn on subtitles)

Putin even talked about this kind of tactic 2 years ago. It's typical CIA action, because they just love to kill their own people when it helps them in propaganda.

[Yorkshire pud]

The guy was a charismatic NOBODY.
He ran a pro-US/CIA party that didn't even get a single seat in the Duma.
More likely he was assassinated by CIA goons to create some kind of (unwilling) martyr.


http://youtu.be/69Qwju5nJ-w
(turn on subtitles)

Putin even talked about this kind of tactic 2 years ago. It's typical CIA action, because they just love to kill their own people when it helps them in propaganda.

Hmmmm. Believing what you think again? Never ends well.

[Yorkshire pud]

Apparently he was preparing to release a report on Russia/Putin's intervention in Ukraine.

Russia seems to be on track to be the place it was 30 years ago, under Vlad.

Putin doesn't tolerate those of a liberal and/or democratc persuasion.

[Kelt]

The guy was a charismatic NOBODY.
He ran a pro-US/CIA party that didn't even get a single seat in the Duma.
More likely he was assassinated by CIA goons to create some kind of (unwilling) martyr.


http://youtu.be/69Qwju5nJ-w
(turn on subtitles)

Putin even talked about this kind of tactic 2 years ago. It's typical CIA action, because they just love to kill their own people when it helps them in propaganda.

I wonder why the CIA would assassinate someone who was compiling a report on Russian involvement in Ukraine?

That would seem like a self-defeating policy.

This guy also recently spoke of his fears that Putin was going to have him killed.

Not sure why the CIA would kill one of their 'own' guys, either, when it would be more constructive to kill someone who wasn't of benefit to them. Can just as easily 'make a martyr' out of someone who is of no use to them.

Seems to be some basic flaws in your theory.

[missing transmission]

Putin is also importing ideas from conceptual art to undermine the public perception of the world


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyop0d30UqQ#ws

[Chaim]

I wonder why the CIA would assassinate someone who was compiling a report on Russian involvement in Ukraine?

That would seem like a self-defeating policy.

This guy also recently spoke of his fears that Putin was going to have him killed.

Not sure why the CIA would kill one of their 'own' guys, either, when it would be more constructive to kill someone who wasn't of benefit to them. Can just as easily 'make a martyr' out of someone who is of no use to them.

Seems to be some basic flaws in your theory.

US-backed opposition groups in Russia have so far failed utterly to produce results. Their transparent subservience to Washington coupled with their distasteful brand of politics has left a rather unpleasant taste in the mouth of most Russians. Each attempt to spread the “virus” of color revolution to Moscow, as US Senator John McCain called it, has failed â€" and each attempt has fallen progressively flatter.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has never been more popular. His ability to weather serial provocations aimed at Russia by NATO has made him a champion against the perceived growing injustice exacted against the developing world by an increasingly militaristic and exploitative West.

So when US-backed opposition groups in Russia decided to gather again this coming March 1, Sunday, many wondered just exactly what they expected to accomplish.

Clearly to match the expectations the “spring” rally was meant to have, to infuse the “virus” US Senator McCain had claimed was intended for Moscow, something drastic would have to be done to change the current calculus.

The prospect of triggering sustainable unrest aimed at the Kremlin was beyond impossible â€" that is â€" until the leader of the planned protest was shot dead, practically on the steps of the Kremlin itself in the heart of Moscow.

Boris Nemtsov, was reportedly shot four times in the back on Friday night in a drive-by shooting. His body laid conveniently for media photographers to capture the Kremlin looming in the background.

Russia immediately condemned the killing, with President Putin noting it was an act of “pure provocation.”

Nemtsov had led US-backed opposition protests for years. In 2012, he was caught literally walking into the US Embassy in Moscow to meet with then newly appointed US Ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul who had serve on the board of directors of Freedom House and the National Endowment for Democracy (NED).

The significance of this cannot be overstated.

That Nemtsov was meeting directly with McFaul who openly works to subvert governments to suit special interests in Washington and on Wall Street, gives some indication of just how closely tied to US meddling Nemtsov was.

In addition to Nemtsov’s direct contact with representatives of US-backed sedition, Nemtsov’s adviser, Vladimir Kara-Murza, has attended NED forums including one in 2011 titled, “Elections in Russia: Polling and Perspectives,” and an NED forum in 2013 titled, “Russia: A Postmodern Dictatorship?” which was jointly presented by Kara-Murza’s “Institute ofModern Russia,” a joint-US Neo-Con/US-backed Russian opposition propaganda clearing house.

It was clear that Washington’s “template” needed an upgrade. What could be done, just days ahead of another attempt to trigger sustainable unrest in Moscow? What could the movement use? A martyr.

Nemtsov, A Convenient Martyr… Too Convenient

The provocative murder in the center of Moscow, in close proximity to the Kremlin itself, would lead the more gullible members of the general public to imagine President Putin himself leaning back in his office chair with a rifle sticking out the window of the Kremlin, and gunning down his rival â€" in true super villain form.

Already, before any investigation has been conducted, Western news sources are attempting to imply the Kremlin was behind his murder â€" hoping the general public believes Russia’s leadership would be careless and thoughtless enough to commit such a provocative act just two days ahead of protests.

It appears likely that rather than the Kremlin clumsily killing an opponent on their doorstep on the eve of  a major protest, he was instead killed by either members of his own opposition movement, or by his US backers themselves. The combination of economic strain brought on by US sanctions, US-backed mobs planning to take to the streets, and now a martyr conventionality delivered just 2 days before the protest he was meant to lead was to take place, has the deck stacked with the most favorable cards to deliver the West the sort of sustainable chaos and unrest it has desired to create in Russia, and has admittedly created in neighboring Ukraine, according to America’s own former Ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul.

A Message to America’s Proxies â€" Be Useful Alive, or Be Useful Dead

What must be going through the minds of Nemtsov’s colleagues who will undoubtedly repeat the West’s propaganda implying the Kremlin was behind his murder, but who know the Kremlin well enough to know that isn’t true?

They must now realize that any one of them could be next â€" that if their utility to their foreign sponsors alive is outweighed by their utility to them dead, they may be in tomorrow’s headlines for all the wrong reasons. Their options are limited â€" continuing as pawns of an increasingly violent, dangerous, and unstable collection of foreign interests or divesting from their roles as foreign-sponsored agitators, and reapproaching Russian politics in a more honest and constructive manner, even if their capacity remains in opposition to the current government â€" albeit in a diminished role lacking the resources Washington has lavished upon them.

Regarding Nemtsov’s murder, any good investigator would be tasked with the question, “to whose benefit?” Surely it would benefit the Kremlin to rid themselves of an opponents, but not in this manner. In fact, the only party that stood to benefit from his high-profile execution in the streets of Moscow were his own compatriots and his foreign backers who faced the prospect of yet another failed protest. Sympathy, they hope, will spur Russians who are on the fence politically to take to the streets, joining others who may have previously avoided protests because of Russia’s economic strength before US sanctions sank in.

The opposition, if they were not behind the murder of one of their own leaders, would not dare hold the protest this week â€" as it would be a shameless exploitation of this tragedy â€" and they would instead, for both security and respect, mourn the loss of Nemtsov thoughtfully. However, since they and their foreign backers were undoubtedly behind the murder, they will protest, shamelessly leveraging Nemtsov’s death to its fullest â€" using mourners to bolster their ranks.

When US Senator John McCain called America’s meddling abroad a “virus,” he meant it. It truly is a disease. And if Russians allow it to, it will corrupt and consume their entire nation just as it has corrupted and consumed the opposition planning to march.

[VtaGeezer]

Russia seems to be on track to be the place it was 30 years ago, under Vlad.

At least the old Soviet Union was ruled by the Party that kept its premieres from becoming another Stalin and had some predictability in foreign relations; now we seem to be dealing with a Stalin-style absolute dictator.  And unlike the old commies who were not exactly loved, latest pols show Vlad has over 80% domestic support, though the only support he needs is that of the FSB.

[Kelt]

US-backed opposition groups in Russia have so far failed utterly to produce results. Their transparent subservience to Washington coupled with their distasteful brand of politics has left a rather unpleasant taste in the mouth of most Russians. Each attempt to spread the “virus” of color revolution to Moscow, as US Senator John McCain called it, has failed â€" and each attempt has fallen progressively flatter.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has never been more popular. His ability to weather serial provocations aimed at Russia by NATO has made him a champion against the perceived growing injustice exacted against the developing world by an increasingly militaristic and exploitative West.

So when US-backed opposition groups in Russia decided to gather again this coming March 1, Sunday, many wondered just exactly what they expected to accomplish.

Clearly to match the expectations the “spring” rally was meant to have, to infuse the “virus” US Senator McCain had claimed was intended for Moscow, something drastic would have to be done to change the current calculus.

The prospect of triggering sustainable unrest aimed at the Kremlin was beyond impossible â€" that is â€" until the leader of the planned protest was shot dead, practically on the steps of the Kremlin itself in the heart of Moscow.

Boris Nemtsov, was reportedly shot four times in the back on Friday night in a drive-by shooting. His body laid conveniently for media photographers to capture the Kremlin looming in the background.

Russia immediately condemned the killing, with President Putin noting it was an act of “pure provocation.”

Nemtsov had led US-backed opposition protests for years. In 2012, he was caught literally walking into the US Embassy in Moscow to meet with then newly appointed US Ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul who had serve on the board of directors of Freedom House and the National Endowment for Democracy (NED).

The significance of this cannot be overstated.

That Nemtsov was meeting directly with McFaul who openly works to subvert governments to suit special interests in Washington and on Wall Street, gives some indication of just how closely tied to US meddling Nemtsov was.

In addition to Nemtsov’s direct contact with representatives of US-backed sedition, Nemtsov’s adviser, Vladimir Kara-Murza, has attended NED forums including one in 2011 titled, “Elections in Russia: Polling and Perspectives,” and an NED forum in 2013 titled, “Russia: A Postmodern Dictatorship?” which was jointly presented by Kara-Murza’s “Institute ofModern Russia,” a joint-US Neo-Con/US-backed Russian opposition propaganda clearing house.

It was clear that Washington’s “template” needed an upgrade. What could be done, just days ahead of another attempt to trigger sustainable unrest in Moscow? What could the movement use? A martyr.

Nemtsov, A Convenient Martyr… Too Convenient

The provocative murder in the center of Moscow, in close proximity to the Kremlin itself, would lead the more gullible members of the general public to imagine President Putin himself leaning back in his office chair with a rifle sticking out the window of the Kremlin, and gunning down his rival â€" in true super villain form.

Already, before any investigation has been conducted, Western news sources are attempting to imply the Kremlin was behind his murder â€" hoping the general public believes Russia’s leadership would be careless and thoughtless enough to commit such a provocative act just two days ahead of protests.

It appears likely that rather than the Kremlin clumsily killing an opponent on their doorstep on the eve of  a major protest, he was instead killed by either members of his own opposition movement, or by his US backers themselves. The combination of economic strain brought on by US sanctions, US-backed mobs planning to take to the streets, and now a martyr conventionality delivered just 2 days before the protest he was meant to lead was to take place, has the deck stacked with the most favorable cards to deliver the West the sort of sustainable chaos and unrest it has desired to create in Russia, and has admittedly created in neighboring Ukraine, according to America’s own former Ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul.

A Message to America’s Proxies â€" Be Useful Alive, or Be Useful Dead

What must be going through the minds of Nemtsov’s colleagues who will undoubtedly repeat the West’s propaganda implying the Kremlin was behind his murder, but who know the Kremlin well enough to know that isn’t true?

They must now realize that any one of them could be next â€" that if their utility to their foreign sponsors alive is outweighed by their utility to them dead, they may be in tomorrow’s headlines for all the wrong reasons. Their options are limited â€" continuing as pawns of an increasingly violent, dangerous, and unstable collection of foreign interests or divesting from their roles as foreign-sponsored agitators, and reapproaching Russian politics in a more honest and constructive manner, even if their capacity remains in opposition to the current government â€" albeit in a diminished role lacking the resources Washington has lavished upon them.

Regarding Nemtsov’s murder, any good investigator would be tasked with the question, “to whose benefit?” Surely it would benefit the Kremlin to rid themselves of an opponents, but not in this manner. In fact, the only party that stood to benefit from his high-profile execution in the streets of Moscow were his own compatriots and his foreign backers who faced the prospect of yet another failed protest. Sympathy, they hope, will spur Russians who are on the fence politically to take to the streets, joining others who may have previously avoided protests because of Russia’s economic strength before US sanctions sank in.

The opposition, if they were not behind the murder of one of their own leaders, would not dare hold the protest this week â€" as it would be a shameless exploitation of this tragedy â€" and they would instead, for both security and respect, mourn the loss of Nemtsov thoughtfully. However, since they and their foreign backers were undoubtedly behind the murder, they will protest, shamelessly leveraging Nemtsov’s death to its fullest â€" using mourners to bolster their ranks.

When US Senator John McCain called America’s meddling abroad a “virus,” he meant it. It truly is a disease. And if Russians allow it to, it will corrupt and consume their entire nation just as it has corrupted and consumed the opposition planning to march.

Nemtsov was shot in the street, and within minutes the authorities were powerhosing any evidence from the sidewalk.

I suppose the West organised that too.

[paladin1991]

I wonder why the CIA would assassinate someone who was compiling a report on Russian involvement in Ukraine?

That would seem like a self-defeating policy.

This guy also recently spoke of his fears that Putin was going to have him killed.

Not sure why the CIA would kill one of their 'own' guys, either, when it would be more constructive to kill someone who wasn't of benefit to them. Can just as easily 'make a martyr' out of someone who is of no use to them.

Seems to be some basic flaws in your theory.

Russians love chess.  Could this be a pawn sacrifice? 

I know, 'pawn sacrifice', rather trite.  But still.

[Kelt]

At least the old Soviet Union was ruled by the Party that kept its premieres from becoming another Stalin and had some predictability in foreign relations; now we seem to be dealing with a Stalin-style absolute dictator.  And unlike the old commies who were not exactly loved, latest pols show Vlad has over 80% domestic support, though the only support he needs is that of the FSB.

Right now Putin feels like he can do whatever he wants.  He invaded and annexed in all but name a portion of Georgia.  The West did nothing.

He invaded and annexed the Crimean peninsula, and the West did nothing.

The overt assassination of a troublesome political opponent in the streets of Moscow is of small significance to Putin.  He probably expected there to be as little fallout as there has been with the others he had executed.

[paladin1991]

US-backed opposition groups in Russia have so far failed utterly to produce results. *snip*

That was a lengthy and meaty post Chaim.  I read through it twice.  Have you been a close observer of what is developing or did you pull that out of your reasoning through what is presented to us by the various news organs? Considering most Americans don't know or care about anything beyond their reach at the dinner table.

[Yorkshire pud]

US-backed opposition groups in Russia have so far failed utterly to produce results. <text wall snipped out>

Gobshite. Do you trawl David Icke, Alex Jones and any other bollox site before copying and pasting on here? I know you can't make it all up, so who are your influences?

THat was prophetic! I was guessing when I typed the above, but I wasn't let down!

http://www.infowars.com/russia-us-backed-opposition-leader-gunned-down-in-moscow/ Verbatim!

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=111835

http://journal-neo.org/2015/02/28/russia-us-backed-opposition-leader-gunned-down-in-moscow/

[paladin1991]

Gobshite. Do you trawl David Icke, Alex Jones and any other bollox site before copying and pasting on here? I know you can't make it all up, so who are your influences?

THat was prophetic! I was guessing when I typed the above, but I wasn't let down!

http://www.infowars.com/russia-us-backed-opposition-leader-gunned-down-in-moscow/ Verbatim!

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=111835

http://journal-neo.org/2015/02/28/russia-us-backed-opposition-leader-gunned-down-in-moscow/

Heheheheh.  I don't know what Gobshite means, but it sounds funny.  Stop poking Chaim.   He is obviously doing his due diligence. 

[Yorkshire pud]

Heheheheh.  I don't know what Gobshite means, but it sounds funny.  Stop poking Chaim.   He is obviously doing his due diligence. 

http://youtu.be/QS06cLEyowg

[Kelt]

Gobshite. Do you trawl David Icke, Alex Jones and any other bollox site before copying and pasting on here? I know you can't make it all up, so who are your influences?

THat was prophetic! I was guessing when I typed the above, but I wasn't let down!

http://www.infowars.com/russia-us-backed-opposition-leader-gunned-down-in-moscow/ Verbatim!

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=111835

http://journal-neo.org/2015/02/28/russia-us-backed-opposition-leader-gunned-down-in-moscow/

Outstanding work, flatcapped one.

Verbatim indeed.

You're supposed to link the author when you steal their thoughts, Chaim.

It's considered polite.

[Chaim]

Nemtsov was shot in the street, and within minutes the authorities were powerhosing any evidence from the sidewalk.

I suppose the West organised that too.

he was shot from a car 4 times. what's there to powerhose? you read too many bad newspapers or watch crappy propaganda news.

[Chaim]

Outstanding work, flatcapped one.

Verbatim indeed.

You're supposed to link the author when you steal their thoughts, Chaim.

It's considered polite.

I left it out to make you look it up. which is what you did. I know how people work.

[Yorkshire pud]

he was shot from a car 4 times. what's there to powerhose? you read too many bad newspapers or watch crappy propaganda news.

As opposed to plagiarising Alex Jones' crappy propaganda news?

Oh, wait, who would possibly do that? 

[onan]

I left it out to make you look it up. which is what you did. I know how people work.

It's still a schmuck move.

[Yorkshire pud]

I left it out to make you look it up and I've been rumbled, shit. I know I was bad, but I can't help it

FIFY

[Yorkshire pud]

I left it out to make you look it up. which is what you did. I know how people work.

Have you ever knowingly had an original thought? Or is everything you post trawled from CT websites?