Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM
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Quote from: nooryisawesome on January 18, 2016, 01:16:55 AMNo, Lynch will not prosecute.Hillary will call it a political whack job of the Republicans. She will secure the democratic nomination.
Quote from: MV on January 18, 2016, 02:20:29 AMconfidently declaring Trump unelectable
Quote from: MV on January 18, 2016, 02:22:15 AMI'll bet you $20 Hillary gets indicted. You in?
Quote from: The King of Kings on January 18, 2016, 02:35:42 AMI think our countries
Quote from: VtaGeezer on January 17, 2016, 09:36:30 PMI think it'll have more substance than simple political mud. Monica is mud. Benghazi is mud. I think Trump will talk about HRC used the Senate job solely to build an '08 campaign chest, and how the Clinton Fdn is a salary generator for FOB&H, a shell for B&H political activity, and a shadow broker for deals to benefit the Clintons and their big contributors.
Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 17, 2016, 05:43:36 PMYeah, I agree. The Republican Party, for whatever reason, has always left the kid gloves on regarding Hillary. Trump won't.
Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 17, 2016, 04:08:54 PMSo let me get this straight, you would prefer the person that gets bought by special interests behind the scenes and then tells you they can't be bought over a person explaining to you how he's spent decades buying politicians. That doesn't make sense to me. You seem to want more of the same, but that wasn't working.
QuoteFailed business ventures don't stick. If they did, most presidents of the last century wouldn't have gotten elected. We all have our failures, bankruptcies, divorces, and bullshit happen in life. You bring up the Trump University thing, but that doesn't shock or surprise me at all. It just makes me wonder how so many writer's workshops, "film schools", etc. manage to exist in NY, because they do the same shit Trump did. Now, if he'd have gotten caught porking a member of the staff, then you'd have something.
QuoteThat's because you grew up in the age of decorum and smoke screens. There was a time where senators would fist fight in the senate, one nearly beating another one to death with a cane at one point. Andrew Jackson's attacks on Buchanan make Trump seem like a pretty flower. Likewise, Trump has nothing on Teddy Roosevelt as far as bravado and arrogance. But over the course of the early 20th century, a pall of decorum was set up that presented a sort of "professionalism" to politics, an air of some kind of false dignity that did nothing but provide a smoke screen for politicians to hide their corruption behind. Trump broke that, and now, for some unknown reason, everyone seems shocked by it.
Quote from: FightTheFuture on January 18, 2016, 03:20:58 AMTrump is the slut you have fun with, Cruz is the one the voters will marry. Every Trump person I speak to, always tells me the same thing: I like Trump and Cruz. I have a hunch that many of those alleged Trump supporters will have an epiphany once in the voting booth.
Quote from: nooryisawesome on January 18, 2016, 03:23:02 AMI am OK with Cruz, but I despise the flat tax. I also think there is 0% chance if Cruz is elected to the Presidency he will be able to push the flat tax through Congress. I find it hilarious that the politics thread is generally civil, while other threads are three ring circus.
Quote from: littlechris on January 18, 2016, 03:34:11 AMTrump for POTUS!!! No, Cruz would never be elected as POTUS since he is too much of a right winger/conservative. But, Trump has alluded to having him as vice president. Trump/Cruz 2016!
Quote from: Jackstar on January 18, 2016, 03:31:46 AM"I like the puppet on the left! I like the puppet on the right! Hey, wait a minute..."
Quote from: MV on January 18, 2016, 02:20:29 AMWhich is why I scratched my head watching George Will repeat himself yet again today, confidently declaring Trump unelectable. No other candidate would skewer Hillary as Trump would.
Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 18, 2016, 03:37:46 AMThe pundits have called Trump wrong the entire time since he entered the race. The guy could landslide it or fail spectacularly, nobody knows. He's a wildcard. I like that.
Quote from: FightTheFuture on January 18, 2016, 03:42:40 AMGOP voters take a huge risk with Trump. Like you said, he`s a huge wildcard. The GOP should be able to win this election with practically anybody as a candidate. Why take a chance on a wildcard like Trump, who may be an unmitigated one term disaster as a POTUS, when you can elect the sure thing with out all the shiny fun stuff?
Quote from: nooryisawesome on January 18, 2016, 04:05:53 AMI think you underestimate Clinton. All political markets have the Democrats favored to win the presidency in 2016. I think Clinton would beat Trump by double digits.
Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on January 18, 2016, 03:08:51 AM...I can't imagine any president engaging her in a stupid social media pissing match...
Quote from: WOTR on January 18, 2016, 04:48:02 AMArt bell for president! (too soon?)
Quote from: VoteQuimby on January 18, 2016, 04:18:30 AMTo this day I still have never met a Hilary supporter, seen a Hilary bumper sticker or a political front yard sign. I've seen quite a bit of Sanders and Trump propaganda locally but not Hilary. I find it hard to believe that anyone except the most ardent feminist would vote for her.
Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 18, 2016, 02:51:13 PMTo be honest, I think the GOP has been taking huge risks since Bush left office by running establishment candidates that were unlikely to win elections. McCain/Palin was a risk, Romney was a risk, Trump less so because he actually has a shot at winning. He's the least risky up there. That's what's so weird about the establishment and social conservative mindset, everyone knows that it doesn't resonate any longer with enough of the population to win presidential elections, yet the GOP wants to keep going out of their way to put up unelectable candidates. It doesn't even work with candidates seen as anti-establishment, Ted Cruz can no more win an election against Hillary than I can sprout wings and fly away. It's just a matter of the electoral college, conservatives should have learned from Romney that the playing field is different now and trying to win with the same old socially conservative principles isn't going to cut it from here on out. The best thing the GOP could do is take notes from the libertarians instead of the preachers. Gay marriage isn't an issue worth losing elections over, opposition to pot legalization isn't an issue worth losing elections over, abortion is an unsolvable issue that isn't worth losing elections over, and so on. Barry Goldwater said as much decades ago, but no one listened. Instead, the GOP allowed the religious right to set the post 1970's agenda. It's done so for so long that we now have candidates like Cruz that outright act like preachers hoping to snow the evangelicals into voting for them based on how they carry themselves. It's ridiculous.
Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on January 18, 2016, 03:08:51 AMNot at all. I would enthusiastically support a candidate who bluntly called BS on everything that's been wrong with politics from the days of our beloved Founding Fathers, but I could never vote for Trump. It has nothing to do with the current political climate, because I've never liked him. He's a boorish, narcissistic, blustering braggart with questionable ethics, a long history of political opportunism, and a penchant for throwing tantrums when he doesn't get his way. While I'm no expert in psychology by any means, his incessant need to loudly remind everyone how great he is has always seemed like a cover for insecurity.
QuoteThose film schools and workshops most likely weren't started by George Lucas and Stephen King with the intention of attracting students with grandiose guarantees of success that couldn't be fulfilled. Trump University was not just a "failed business." By all objective accounts, it was a shady, possibly criminal, enterprise deigned to deceive and fleece the credulous with ultimately false promises of learning Trump's secrets to amassing riches. You can look it up.
QuoteAndrew Jackson crapped bigger than Donald Trump. If he were alive today, Old Hickory would kill him in a duel and whittle a flute out of his right femur. I wish I'd been a guest at his inaugural party!