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dungiven

Quote from: Art Bell on April 19, 2015, 09:37:50 PM
Would you all try this link and tell me how many can get it and what you think it's 32AAC+  http://tunein.com/radio/Skylyne-Radio-Party-Mix-s244485/

Art
I know I am late, but the link sounds good on all of my apple devices. Can't wait to be listening to Midnight in the Desert on my iphone!

soulburner

Quote from: Art Bell on April 19, 2015, 09:37:50 PM
Would you all try this link and tell me how many can get it and what you think it's 32AAC+  http://tunein.com/radio/Skylyne-Radio-Party-Mix-s244485/

Art
I'm a little late, but here's my report:
* TuneIn app on Android 5.0 phone: working
* TuneIn app on Windows Phone 8.1: app fails to start when clicking the link directly (stuck at loading screen). Starting the app and finding the radio station manually works. Tested without headphones, so I'm not sure it's AAC+ stereo
* Windows 8.1 desktop PC: working only on Chrome. Firefox and IE11 fail to find any playable streams.

laserjock

Would a Pepsi party suffice?  Pepsi and nacho's would be a real ho down!


coaster

Its not a party until you freebase Art's pizza punch.

Art Bell

Ok, based on all your testing we are looking for a 48kbps stream, if it sounds good we will go for AAC+ and MP3 both at 48kbps the AAC+ will sound much better but we will have both.... Looking for a test link now.

Art

starrmtn001

Quote from: Art Bell on April 19, 2015, 09:37:50 PM
Would you all try this link and tell me how many can get it and what you think it's 32AAC+  http://tunein.com/radio/Skylyne-Radio-Party-Mix-s244485/

Art
Firefox gets an "error" message.  It works fine on Google Chrome.

PrairieGhost

Quote from: Art Bell on April 20, 2015, 03:01:28 PM
Ok, based on all your testing we are looking for a 48kbps stream, if it sounds good we will go for AAC+ and MP3 both at 48kbps the AAC+ will sound much better but we will have both.... Looking for a test link now.

Art

http://www.radioforest.net/radio/658325.pls?bitrate=48

Catsmile

Quote from: Art Bell on April 20, 2015, 03:01:28 PM
Ok, based on all your testing we are looking for a 48kbps stream, if it sounds good we will go for AAC+ and MP3 both at 48kbps the AAC+ will sound much better but we will have both.... Looking for a test link now.

Art

Wow Art! You are going all out bumping up the bitrate to 48K!
Thanks for shouldering the extra cost, from one of the few who will be listening on "better equipment."

Maybe you can sell CDs, SD cards, or thumb drives with multiple shows of their choice, to those with restrictive data caps?  :D

Morgus

Quote from: Art Bell on April 20, 2015, 03:01:28 PM
Ok, based on all your testing we are looking for a 48kbps stream, if it sounds good we will go for AAC+ and MP3 both at 48kbps the AAC+ will sound much better but we will have both.... Looking for a test link now.

Art

If you provide the AAC+ stream via a playlist link like Keith does on the DMRN webpage (.m3u or .pls) that should play fine on PC's with media player software that supports the playlist link format (VLC, Winamp, etc) also there are some free Android apps that support playlist streams as well.

Morgus

Quote from: PrairieGhost on April 20, 2015, 03:38:10 PM
http://www.radioforest.net/radio/658325.pls?bitrate=48
That stream appears to actually be 64K stereo MP3, playing thru Winamp on my PC.
The .pls stream plays on some PC media players like Winamp, VLC,  etc.

Art Bell

Ok this is really cool, try this link and compare, the 48k vs higher MP3 stream. Opinions please.

http://tunein.com/radio/8Radiocom-943-s162354/?streamid=5242519

Art

Heather Wade

Quote from: Art Bell on April 20, 2015, 04:31:26 PM
Ok this is really cool, try this link and compare, the 48k vs higher MP3 stream. Opinions please.

http://tunein.com/radio/8Radiocom-943-s162354/?streamid=5242519

Art

Ok, I compared the two links, both sound great, but the Skyline Radio Party Mix sounded just a little better.  Chrome on pc.

Morgus

Quote from: Art Bell on April 20, 2015, 04:31:26 PM
Ok this is really cool, try this link and compare, the 48k vs higher MP3 stream. Opinions please.

http://tunein.com/radio/8Radiocom-943-s162354/?streamid=5242519

Art

On my android smartphone via the TuneIn app it allows me to select between the two streams (labeled 48K AAC and 128K MP3).
Playing the AAC stream it appears to be variable bitrate, averaging 48K but peaks up to 64K at times.
Playing the MP3 stream, Tunein while playing it shows it as actually 96K MP3.

PrairieGhost

48kp AAC sounds better. The 128k MP3 has drops in the audio whereas the AAC doesn't. It works fine on my Windows 7 machine using Chrome but doesn't work with IE.

Catsmile

For those at home playing along who are TuneIn impaired.

48K AAC+ : http://162.244.80.41

  96K MP3 : http://176.31.239.83:9035/

Art Bell

That link allows you to compare 48 AAC with 128 MP3 and it's really hard to tell them apart, amazing. I think we will go with 48AAC and 48 MP3. If listening to tune in it will default to whatever your device can handle. Most all phones and tablets will do AAC no problem. Computers are a mixed bag, if using Chrome they will do AAC, if not they will default to MP3.

Art

Art_s Farts

For those using PC's, I would direct them to tunein.com. I don't think you have to configure anything. Tunein.com does it for you.

Art Bell

What we want is a seamless experience for all which is why we are going to use tune in, if Grandma just gets tune in and puts my name in, poof it works one way or the other.

Art

morgana213

Quote from: (Redacted) on April 20, 2015, 04:39:40 PM
Ok, I compared the two links, both sound great, but the Skyline Radio Party Mix sounded just a little better.  Chrome on pc.
That was my experience as well using windows 8.1 laptop.

Aussie Dave

Quote from: Art Bell on April 20, 2015, 04:31:26 PM
Ok this is really cool, try this link and compare, the 48k vs higher MP3 stream. Opinions please.

http://tunein.com/radio/8Radiocom-943-s162354/?streamid=5242519

Art

The link does not work in any browser on Windows 7 PC.

Sounds great on iPhone via Tunein app.

twiki

Quote from: Art Bell on April 20, 2015, 04:31:26 PM
Ok this is really cool, try this link and compare, the 48k vs higher MP3 stream. Opinions please.

http://tunein.com/radio/8Radiocom-943-s162354/?streamid=5242519

Art

For me it only seems to work on Chrome on my Mac and does not work in any other browser on Mac or PC.

It really does sound good on the Tunein application on my iPhone.

Catsmile

Quote from: Art Bell on April 20, 2015, 05:29:16 PM
What we want is a seamless experience for all which is why we are going to use tune in, if Grandma just gets tune in and puts my name in, poof it works one way or the other.

Art

Cool Art however your team wants to do it I'm fine with.
May I also request once available putting the .M3U, .XSPF, .PLS, and server IP address and port number for both streams on your website. That would be very useful to the folks that aren't grandma with TuneIn. Thanks in advance.

laserjock

Stream doesn't work on FF but in Chrome I can choose and the 128 is noticably better, it sounds more live, more vibrant, though I don't have really good speakers yet.


cosmic hobo

Add me to the list of users that can't access the stream from the link provided on any of browsers on my Win 7 PC. Like all the others the link opens and works seamlessly in Tunein on all of my iDevices.

laserjock

Quote from: Art Bell on April 20, 2015, 05:29:16 PM
What we want is a seamless experience for all which is why we are going to use tune in, if Grandma just gets tune in and puts my name in, poof it works one way or the other.

Art

I've been trying to find out why so many things don't work from tunein on firefox, even when I enable flash (turn off noscript) and no dice yet.  If Tunein is this much trouble maybe it's not as good a choice?

laserjock

Ok, I even tried running 8radio.com from the Windows 8 tunein *APP* and no dice.

Art Bell

It has nothing to do with Tune in, would be the same with a direct link

Morgus

Quote from: laserjock on April 20, 2015, 06:04:47 PM
I've been trying to find out why so many things don't work from tunein on firefox, even when I enable flash (turn off noscript) and no dice yet.  If Tunein is this much trouble maybe it's not as good a choice?
tunein on their website help info clearly states that using their web browser player on PCs work with mp3 streams but not with aac streams.
tunein apps on other devices does support aac.
The solution for Pc users for aac is dont use tunein, just play the aac stream via a playlist link (.m3u or .pls) with a free audio player app like winamp or vlc.

Keith provides .m3u and .pls stream links already for the  DMRN stream at the website.

laserjock

Ok, on 8radio.com's website they have a flashplayer for PC users option that works, so I see what you are saying, it has to work with flash or silverlight or what have you...

Oh, ok, it's because these are all AAC codec plays, I was under the impression that it wasn't just AAC.  I understand now. 

Catsmile

Quote from: Art Bell on April 20, 2015, 06:11:13 PM
It has nothing to do with Tune in, would be the same with a direct link

Well I can use the direct links to play both AAC+, MP3 streams in Foobar 2000, Windows Media Player, VLC, WinAmp, and the playlist links will launch one of those players and start the stream.

Whereas only Google Chrome browser works on my Windows 7 PC.
TuneIn through web browsers are at best a mixed bag.
Not implying don't to use Tunein, just allow both streams be accessible by other means as well.
Thanks.

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