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Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 19, 2016, 12:04:37 PM
That's the funniest goddamn thing I've read all day. Thank you. 

My unending joy is to bring smiles to all.

Quote from: Jackstar on October 19, 2016, 12:05:32 PM
according to insider sources, the Russians also deployed stealth aircraft equipped with systems based on alien inter-dimensional UFO cloaking technology that renders aircraft invisible or undetectable during flight.


Surely, someone's explained that to him by now.

Don't be so sure...

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 19, 2016, 12:03:05 PM
https://twitter.com/ChatRevolve/status/788796046935789570

Stuff like this is counter productive.  The ceaseless blame game against the media really is like whining about a bad call at a kids soccer game.

Quote from: The General on October 19, 2016, 12:00:01 PM
Why do you project racism onto those with whom you disagree?
You really ought to do some soul searching about that.

I actually have.  I can find no other driving force behind conservatism then the need to be exclusionary.  It isn't just race, but that really does work its way into so many things.  You have a need to boost your self worth by denigrating others.  Socially.  Racially.  Spiritually.  Economically.   It is so important to create social structure upon which you can climb and proclaim to the world: "Acknowledge Me!"

It just isn't necessary, but its compulsory for so many on the right.

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 19, 2016, 11:53:07 AM
I can understand such a naive retarded word salad in '08. I got caught up in that shit too back then. But I don't know how you continue to say these things in 2016 when it's clear the people pushing this stuff are corrupt con-artists.

Perhaps.  HRC is a con artist.  But Bernie Sanders isn't.  He is galvanizing people to move toward reconciling our nation's quest for innovation with its need to ensure the safety of its citizens.  Is what he suggests truly corrupt? Hardly.  Can it be done painlessly?  Again, hardly, but it is the right path forward and will ultimately make this country strong and united.

Quote from: The General on October 19, 2016, 11:55:20 AM
Paging Dr. Zhivago

Paging Leni Riefenstahl.

I understand you want things to go back to the "good old days" of White Makes Right and the rest, but the tide of change cannot be turned by a few ensconced crones craving the subjugation of others for their own purposes.  Kiss them shits goodbye.

Quote from: The General on October 19, 2016, 11:46:23 AM
My question was about why the Republicans who oppose Trump would be okay with a left leaning court. 
Can we assume that they aren't conservatives?
Anyhow, to your point...
You understand, don't you, that the role of the court is to interpret law?
Not to enact social engineering?  Comrade?

Right.  Just like Citizens United.  Kamerad.

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on October 19, 2016, 11:32:55 AM
Well look at what the cat hacked up! How you been man? I hope well.

Treading water.  Hey did you write any Star Trek books for the 50th Anniversary series?

QuoteThere's creating problems and then addressing them, or there are avoiding problems from the start. Obama's policy has been the former.

Obama's policy has been about nuance and consensus, not unilateralism.  This world is full of crazy and we need to settle it down.  Some things, like South China Sea, you let play out.  There's been little actual confrontation (some chest beating on the high seas) but there will be a negotiated solution there.  Iran?  Obama didn't cause their nuclear avarice.  Hell, W. named them as part of his "Axis of Evil" and promptly ignored their atomic aspirations.  'Bam pushed a coalition (including a nervous Russia and China) into the mix, squeezed them to the bargaining table, and we now have IAEA (read: CIA) inspectors on the ground gathering valuable intelligence on their actual capabilities.  Seems pretty insightful to me.
As for ISIS?  Believe the shitmongers if you want to, but ISIS' true Pappy was L. Paul Bremer and his ill-advised "de-Baathification".  Most of ISIS came from Sunni Baathists kicked to the curb.  Notice how their terror targets are always Shia Mosques and gatherings?
In any event, we've reconstituted the Iraqi army, have pushed them out of many strongholds, and are now advanc ing on Mosul with a coalition of nearly 100,000 Iraqi, Peshmurga, & US forces.  ISIS will be demoted to Al-Shabaab before the next President swears in.

QuoteSounds like an incident waiting to happen to me.

Exactly.  Putin the Great Showman has to divert starving Russians away from their misery with histrionics.

QuoteI agree with this. I'm not a Putin apologist, he's a crook. But I want the path of least death and destabilization in the world, and sometimes that means ramping down tensions with a crook. The time for starving him was when he went into Ukraine.

I disagree.  The time to install missle defense in Poland is now.  The time to agree to supply Turkey and Ukraine with logistical support is now.  The time to backdoor exploit China via Russian servers is now.  The time to push sanctions on them is now. 
Russia will never be a democracy.  It is historically ingrained in its' DNA to be lead by a strongman.  Call him Czar, Commissar, or President there will be no change until the suffering and misery exceeds even Russian tolerances.

QuoteYeah, I heard about that. I'm not sure how much damage it really does, or what will happen in retaliation.

The real point is that Putin needs to know he's not invincible.

Quote from: The General on October 19, 2016, 11:25:28 AM
Does Paul Ryan and the other nevertrump asshats
WANT a "social justice" activist style Supreme Court?
Because that's what's at stake here.

And its what our country needs to remain strong throughout the 21st century.

We need "Social Justice".  Mock it, scorn it, deride it.  You'll be dead soon enough and newer generations, uninhibited by the craven need for self esteem by discrimination will usher our nation into absolute greatness.  We will plumb the depths of our oceans and soar into space.  We will see an end to hunger and want yet a continuation of innovation and discovery.

Yeah, we need the decrepit cobwebbed leash of conservative thought scoured from our SCOTUS!

Quote from: albrecht on October 19, 2016, 11:02:26 AM
I'm no expert,

Done.  Entire thought complete.

Quote from: mv on October 19, 2016, 11:23:26 AM
But a fox in the hen house is?

Especially if its this Fox:

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on October 19, 2016, 11:12:51 AM
Goes to show how bought and paid for they were.

Supposedly. But I'd actually have been happy with that state of affairs. Kasich was one of my more preferred candidates, though ideally I was initially a the Rand Paul supporter.

That was you?!?

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on October 19, 2016, 11:01:11 AM
It'll be another stupid fucking proxy war in Syria. We're sort of at that stage already thanks to Obama's disastrous foreign policy, Hillary will just continue it until an incident happens and we accidently shoot down a Russian plane or vice versa. How it goes after that just depends on whether cool heads prevail, which to be honest I have little faith in that in regard to Hillary. It will be up to Putin to back down or escalate.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/10/19/iraqi-general-calls-on-isis-fighters-in-mosul-to-surrender.html

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/middleeast/mosul-isis-operation-iraq/

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-china-agree-on-implementing-paris-climate-change-pact-1472896645

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33521655

So far, not looking good for "Obama's disastrous foreign policy" critique.  Back to the stacks, Dolphin.

But your pal Don's good buddy Shirtless Vlad has taken the odd step of establishing an air defense perimeter in Syria.  To combat ISIS.  Which has NO PLANES.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-air-defense-raises-stakes-of-us-confrontation-in-syria/2016/10/17/85c89220-948c-11e6-bb29-bf2701dbe0a3_story.html

If a shooting war starts, its because nobody, from Clinton to Bush on down has done enough to starve Russia.

Although there's this:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/white-house-russia-hacking-retaliate-229622

But it's not jingoistic or sexy to crush Russia's infrastructure.  Plus you can't set it to music like Fox News did during Shock & Awe bombing.

Quote from: Jackstar on September 11, 2016, 11:58:12 AM

Listen Matt, you know i agree with you, you know I always agree with you, right?

Matt, you are wrong here.

Ok, I'll bite:  "Matt"?

Quote from: chefist on September 11, 2016, 11:53:46 AM

Good stuff there, Ba-Ba-Booey.

What's next, you going to ask Hillary if she does anal?

Quote from: bateman on September 11, 2016, 11:06:57 AM
Constitutional Topic: Death of a Presidential Candidate

Great find.  A Hillary capitulation now would almost certainly mean a Sanders revival (and eventual election).

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 11, 2016, 11:05:17 AM
You guys already threw him under the bus. Remember?!

No, the Democratic Party did.

Quote from: chefist on September 11, 2016, 11:37:49 AM
Huge deal...she had to issue an apology...it was worse than Romney's 47℅ gaffe...

Not even close.  Here's analysis with perspective:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/10/who-will-hillary-clintons-basket-of-deplorables-comment-actually-alienate/

(Also courtesy of www.electoral-vote.com )

Who's really offended?  The white nationalists?  Who cares; they were never voting HRC (or Bernie, or 'Bam) anyway.

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 11, 2016, 10:31:35 AM
I got it!  She wanted to go, but when she got to the car realized it looked bad to leave under her own power -- not serious enough to warrant an excuse.  So she put on a show.  It was a false sag.

No, her sag is quite real...(although Bill's is worse)

Quote from: Jackstar on September 11, 2016, 10:25:37 AM
Oh, yeah, right, "Hillary Clinton, New Yorker."



massive rolleyes

Yeah, you got me.  She was the Senator from NY at the time, and Bill had set up his Philandering Palace in Harlem ("Hey, Brown Sugar, I'm the first Black President"), but they really are cynical opportunists.

Quote from: albrecht on September 11, 2016, 10:14:21 AM
Glad to brighten your day. Aside from maybe Obama or many/most Muslims around the world most people feel a bit down on a 911 anniversary even with NFL really starting etc. It was a sad occasion and horrible events.

So your theory is that Hillary  was BOTH sick AND just didn't want to hang around anymore at a 911 memorial, likely thinking "what difference does it make" -as she has stated before Congress about other Americans who died from terrorism youtube?

My 'theory" is that she was ill and didn't want to cause a distraction at a public function about the families of the fallen.  Given the fishbowl world we live in today even her departure caused a media firestorm; a sudden collapse or illness episode there would have been all about her during a very solemn day around the country but especially there at the World Trade Center. 

Your characterization of her "not wanting to hang around", while tongue in cheek, is still disrespectful only in the sense that she, along with Donald Trump, had a personal connection to the events of that day and subsequent events to try to help revive lower Manhattan, assist first responders, and respect the mourning of the families.

If Trump had left for the same reason, I would respect that and never presume he didn't want to "hang around".  In fact, I give Mr. Trump tremendous credit for being there as a very prominent New Yorker who did try to help the city recover.

Quote from: Jackstar on September 11, 2016, 10:10:41 AM
Yes.

I stand corrected.

Quote from: Jackstar on September 11, 2016, 10:06:10 AM
Dude, look. I love you, you know I love you, I always love you. I hate you here. This "triggered" joke is like three months old, what the fuck. Are you now proposing that humour is no longer allowed, and that injecting satire into political discourse is some kind of BellGabe exclusive?

Nigga please.

No, jokes are jokes and people can make whatever joke they want.  I would just like them to be funny is all.  And am I asking too much for the people on this forum to do a little better than meme poaching and cliches?

Quote from: albrecht on September 11, 2016, 10:02:25 AM
What does racism have to do with Hillary leaving a 911 memorial early because she felt uncomfortable? Or are you admitting it was actually yet another medical issue? Can't have it both ways: either she left due to a medical situation or she left because she was uncomfortable (as her handlers and daughter says "overheated.") Which is it?

Yes!  A classic from the conservatism book of linear argument, the classic "either/or".  Regardless of the incongruity of your proposition, it can be both.  She may well have been sick.  And she may have well felt like leaving would be better than vomiting all over Trump's shoes.

QuoteAnd even if I was, for the sake of argument, racist how would that apply to Hillary, a super rich WASP who calls black children "super predators?" If anything, again for the sake of argument, I would agree with the KKK President and support her.
(Note rightwing source and before the Democrats started to try the meme about racist Trump support.)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-kkk_us_56e7373ae4b0b25c918304f2

"For the sake of argument"!  I needed that laugh. Especially on a day like today.

Quote from: VoteQuimby on September 11, 2016, 09:58:10 AM
Someone is triggered and feeling the fear. 

There's that "triggered" joke again.  Another Bellgab giggler like "U mad bro?", "Gotta Eat", and "butthurt".  The internet continues to grow and thrive but posters here are stuck in 2003.

I'm actually hoping Hitlery's physician throws in the towel.  Sanders would destroy Trump in the general election and his down ballot coat tails would sweep the feculence of conservatism away like a hurricane.

Quote from: mikuthing01 on September 11, 2016, 09:54:57 AM
That's what i thought, Ghost rallied on it in july/early august telling his listeners to shut up about Hillary's health problems until after a certain date 8/28 if i remember right

Or, as would seem logical, it would be up to the party's discretion:

http://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/20431

With a living nominee available, there shouldn't be much debate or issues with ballot substitution.

Quote from: VoteQuimby on September 11, 2016, 09:55:45 AM
Bernie is done. He's no longer a Democrat and he's going down as the biggest joke in American political history.

Displaying how odd the conservative sense of humor is given the current GOP nominee.

Quote from: albrecht on September 11, 2016, 09:50:18 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/clinton-departs-911-ceremony-after-feeling-overheated-campaign-says-153431902.html
So either she had another medical episode and is trying to cover it up by saying she felt "overheated" or she is very disrespectful to the memories of those who died and just left because she was uncomfortable. Either way not a person fit to be President.

Wow! A shocker!  Bellgab's resident Racist-In-Chief finds a conclusive reason to disqualify Hitlery?!?  What, did she have lesbian sex with a Muslim, too?

Quote from: VoteQuimby on September 11, 2016, 09:51:20 AM
I don't believe the Democrats can submit a new candidate after August.

Right. Because that's the way real life works.  Do you seriously believe there's any way in hell the Dems wouldn't be permitted to substitute a nominee due to catastratophic health considerations?

Right now Democrats are suing to keep Trump off the ballot in Minnesota because of a filing irregularity.  Do you think any court's going to say a major party nominee cannot be placed on a ballot?  Horsecrap:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/minnesota-democrats-no-trump-ballot-227954

Quote from: mikuthing01 on September 11, 2016, 08:18:23 AM
ahh hahahahahah Hillary is done it's over liberal fags

Dumbass.  If Hillary cannot continue, life for you just became a hell of a lot more difficult...