John B. Wells

[ARTiculate]

And I'm going to say this too, John Wells sucks.

[onan]

LoL I'm laughing but I'm also noticing a weird annoying and instigating stench from so many here. Why do keep harassing Iart.  That's two nights in a row I noticed and I just joined myself.  Would you like to berate me or tell me how to speak too?  To Iart's point, I'm a female who is definitely not interested in the buddy system I see hear.  I would like to comment without any of you deciding if you like what I say or think I'm a lily???  So strange.

Because, obviously we are all inbred cretins. And all we see from strangers is lily. I don't give a shit if you are female, male, or without genitalia. If you want to post, please do, but there may well be a post that responds to yours.

Believe it or not we are not all in the same cave, parent's basement, or frat house. We have extremely different points of view on most all subjects.

None of us need to explain ourselves, nor do you. Sometimes when I enter an establishment I decide it is a place I will return, sometimes not.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

I think some comments about Mr. Wells got misinterpreted as personal insults and it got nasty from there, as such things tend to.  I wish we could all just agree John B. Wells sucks, but we can't because his manner is subject to interpretation.  That's the wonderful thing about George Noory.  Everyone can come together from all walks of life: Democrats, Republicans, left-brained thinkers, right-brained thinkers, people of different nationalities; we can all find the common ground GNS.

[ARTiculate]

I think some comments about Mr. Wells got misinterpreted as personal insults and it got nasty from there, as such things tend to.  I wish we could all just agree John B. Wells sucks, but we can't because his manner is subject to interpretation.  That's the wonderful thing about George Noory.  Everyone can come together from all walks of life: Democrats, Republicans, left-brained thinkers, right-brained thinkers, people of different nationalities; we can all find the common ground GNS.

Haha funnnny

[coaster]

I'm a female who is definitely not interested in the buddy system I see here. 

Congrats...
It's no wonder I haven't been visiting this site as much. I love the site, I am happy for MV for the new influx of members, but I find it's better just to read and go about my day, without contributing.
In the end, it was all hot air.

[onan]

Congrats...
In the end, it was all hot air.

you whore.

[ARTiculate]

This does not look like hot air to me sorry:

Quote from: IartC2C on Yesterday at 04:03:15 AM
WoW!  That's scary.  The guy gives me a migraine.  Tonight already began as a complete and utter disaster.  It's insane, what comes out of his mouth when something does.  He and Noory are utterely discombobulated idiots.

"Boo! I hope that you didn't wet the bed." < this dude started it and other boyfriends jumped right in. There's your hot air.

so to a degree you are right after all. all hot air in the end.

[Nucky Nolan]

Maybe it's the booze talking but John B wells reminds me of 70's porn music and shag carpet. He reminds me of those guys who drive around in those vans that have airbrushed fantasy pictures on the side. And I bet he smells like old bong water.

I got the same vibe from him when I first heard him on Coast. He sounded like a New Age (philosophy, not music) disc jockey who worked for a college station that played deep cuts from rock albums. You smelled incense when you heard his voice. Heck, you got a contact high. He also had a mysterious aura that was perfect for alternative and paranormal subjects. His show on the MIB was one of his best. The program with rock artists was in his wheelhouse. He should have stuck with non-dogmatic fun stuff.

[onan]

This does not look like hot air to me sorry:

Quote from: IartC2C on Yesterday at 04:03:15 AM
WoW!  That's scary.  The guy gives me a migraine.  Tonight already began as a complete and utter disaster.  It's insane, what comes out of his mouth when something does.  He and Noory are utterely discombobulated idiots.

"Boo! I hope that you didn't wet the bed." < this dude started it and other boyfriends jumped right in. There's your hot air.

so to a degree you are right after all. all hot air in the end.

I can't believe we are having a text based "mom, he touched me first" discussion.

[qaddisin]

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This is dumb.

[coaster]

I got the same vibe from him when I first heard him on Coast. He sounded like a New Age (philosophy, not music) disc jockey who worked for a college station that played deep cuts from rock albums. You smelled incense when you heard his voice. Heck, you got a contact high. He also had a mysterious aura that was perfect for alternative and paranormal subjects. His show on the MIB was one of his best. The program with rock artists was in his wheelhouse. He should have stuck with non-dogmatic fun stuff.

Exactly. I bet he still listens to vinyl.

[Nucky Nolan]

I think some comments about Mr. Wells got misinterpreted as personal insults and it got nasty from there, as such things tend to.  I wish we could all just agree John B. Wells sucks, but we can't because his manner is subject to interpretation.  That's the wonderful thing about George Noory.  Everyone can come together from all walks of life: Democrats, Republicans, left-brained thinkers, right-brained thinkers, people of different nationalities; we can all find the common ground GNS.

That's not true in my case. Folks, who disagree with me, are more than entitled to their opinions. To each their own. I don't get bent out of shape if somebody disagrees with my views on politics and religion. There are exceptions to that rule, but that's how it is most of the time. I play around when someone flames me on forums because it's silly to take it seriously. It's not important stuff. I think that most people here feel that way.

[Nucky Nolan]

Exactly. I bet he still listens to vinyl.

He might still have his eight-tracks of Steely Dan that he got from Columbia House. I hope that I'm not on their list.

[onan]

wells gets more credibility from this site than all of his combined shows... if anyone wants an example of hot air... there it is.

[coaster]

I didn't say I liked the guy. He's that old couch in the basement, but it's easier to let him stay than have someone remove him.

[West of the Rockies]

Wells strikes me as the kind of guy it might be a kick to take a junior college class from (an elective class you took just for fun, like Psychology of Dreams or Interpersonal Communication).  He probably could tell some funny stories.  I would not want him on my thesis committee though.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

Wells strikes me as the kind of guy it might be a kick to take a junior college class from (an elective class you took just for fun, like Psychology of Dreams or Interpersonal Communication).  He probably could tell some funny stories.  I would not want him on my thesis committee though.

You would be taking ten pages of notes for every relevant point.

[onan]

Wells strikes me as the kind of guy it might be a kick to take a junior college class from (an elective class you took just for fun, like Psychology of Dreams or Interpersonal Communication).  He probably could tell some funny stories.  I would not want him on my thesis committee though.

Not to quibble, but interpersonal communication if taught correctly is a valuable course. Psychology of dreams... not so much.

[West of the Rockies]

No doubt you're right, Onan... the guy I took it from over three decades ago was pretty much a massive stoner with tenure.  Every day one student would pretty much spill his guts; we'd all end with a big group hug.  I was one of the very few who did not come in with a Mayflower moving van full of issues.  It all seemed very strange and a little sad to my then-eighteen-year-old mind.

[onan]

No doubt you're right, Onan... the guy I took it from over three decades ago was pretty much a massive stoner with tenure.  Every day one student would pretty much spill his guts; we'd all end with a big group hug.  I was one of the very few who did not come in with a Mayflower moving van full of issues.  It all seemed very strange and a little sad to my then-eighteen-year-old mind.

Yeah, that seems to be the piece missing from many classes... appropriate boundaries. I often meet people seeking assistance but soon in it becomes clear that treatment isn't wanted but a badge for "someone did me wrong" and no responsibility.

I get lots of frowns when I suggest they stop looking for a magic wand and start working on their issues.

[Flaxen Hegemony]

No doubt you're right, Onan... the guy I took it from over three decades ago was pretty much a massive stoner with tenure.  Every day one student would pretty much spill his guts; we'd all end with a big group hug.  I was one of the very few who did not come in with a Mayflower moving van full of issues.  It all seemed very strange and a little sad to my then-eighteen-year-old mind.

That's the best kind of stoner!  Every pop quiz is about 60's music.

But seriously, these kind of wasteful instructors are pains in the ass to evaluate, too, because their student ratings are always pegged high.  "S/he's the GREEEEEAAAATESSST!!!!1"  Because mean course GPA hovers around 3.96.

Though I've noticed a bit of evidence for a new trend that makes me hopeful for the next generation of students.  For years, I would see things like the silliness above - it was nearly a perfect correlation: easy profs get high ratings, hard profs get low ratings.  It still is largely the case, but every now and then, my heart warms to read something like "I learned JACK SHIT from this idiot!  Sure I got an A, but what did I get for my money?".  I suspect this has almost everything to do with the economy.  College degrees aren't worth as much on the market as a decade ago, so smart students are less worried about the letter grade, and more worried about employment.

And this means those boutique majors are starting to hear the hull rivets straining.

[awake]

Once again, I find myself saying, "Dear Lord, please save me from your followers."

Praise jebus

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

That's the best kind of stoner!  Every pop quiz is about 60's music.

But seriously, these kind of wasteful instructors are pains in the ass to evaluate, too, because their student ratings are always pegged high.  "S/he's the GREEEEEAAAATESSST!!!!1"  Because mean course GPA hovers around 3.96.

Though I've noticed a bit of evidence for a new trend that makes me hopeful for the next generation of students.  For years, I would see things like the silliness above - it was nearly a perfect correlation: easy profs get high ratings, hard profs get low ratings.  It still is largely the case, but every now and then, my heart warms to read something like "I learned JACK SHIT from this idiot!  Sure I got an A, but what did I get for my money?".  I suspect this has almost everything to do with the economy.  College degrees aren't worth as much on the market as a decade ago, so smart students are less worried about the letter grade, and more worried about employment.

And this means those boutique majors are starting to hear the hull rivets straining.

Apart from these forums I'm not one to criticize anyone, but I remember one Prof I had who was easy but a horrible teacher.  I think it was his first teaching assignment in some time.  It was a pretty easy mandatory course.  One time he split off in the middle of demonstrating a calculation to ask who would be joining him in some racquetball tournament.  I absolutely tore into him on his evaluation, like a wolf going for the kill.  I don't think anyone was too enamoured with his teaching style despite it being an easy A or B.  Conversely I've had professors who would overload us with material, but they were enthused and almost guru-like.  Despite the work load they were well appreciated.  Of course there are also smart, strict, condescending profs who are respected but avoided.

[Mind Flayer Monk]

But seriously, these kind of wasteful instructors are pains in the ass to evaluate, too, because their student ratings are always pegged high.  "S/he's the GREEEEEAAAATESSST!!!!1"  Because mean course GPA hovers around 3.96.

Though I've noticed a bit of evidence for a new trend that makes me hopeful for the next generation of students.  For years, I would see things like the silliness above - it was nearly a perfect correlation: easy profs get high ratings, hard profs get low ratings. 

However, the best students actively seek out the easiest teachers. They are too smart to risk getting a B in interpersonal communication or sociology when they can take the similar guy for an A. That B is a tremendous barrier on the road to medical/dental school or the grad school with close ties to Livermore Labs, Oak Ridge, or Fermilab's collider.

[Flaxen Hegemony]

However, the best students actively seek out the easiest teachers. They are too smart to risk getting a B in interpersonal communication or sociology when they can take the same guy for an A. That B is a tremendous barrier on the road to medical/dental school or the grad school with close ties to Livermore Labs, Oak Ridge, or Fermilab's collider.

I think this partly depends on the type of credentials needed to enter those graduate schools.  A pre-med student taking the easy A teachers for Bio or Chem might later get tripped up when taking the MCAT, and end up not getting accepted anywhere.  This strategy works better in areas where undergrad research experience is more valued.  I've seen the really bright students take easy classes to get the A, but not just for the grade, but the time saved working is allocated to getting attached to a faculty lab, or even many labs.

Of course, the very best students tend to be aware of their weaknesses, and address them before graduating.  If a student with a mid-3 point GPA asks me if they can get into a top grad program, I say: 1) hit a home run on the GRE (not just do well), and 2) get as much research experience as possible to slap on the application.  This will give them a shot, depending on how many of the higher seeds decline offers.  I've seen a few get to good schools in this scenario, maybe 25%.

[Mind Flayer Monk]

I think this partly depends on the type of credentials needed to enter those graduate schools.  A pre-med student taking the easy A teachers for Bio or Chem might later get tripped up when taking the MCAT, and end up not getting accepted anywhere.  This strategy works better in areas where undergrad research experience is more valued.  I've seen the really bright students take easy classes to get the A, but not just for the grade, but the time saved working is allocated to getting attached to a faculty lab, or even many labs.

Of course, the very best students tend to be aware of their weaknesses, and address them before graduating.  If a student with a mid-3 point GPA asks me if they can get into a top grad program, I say: 1) hit a home run on the GRE (not just do well), and 2) get as much research experience as possible to slap on the application.  This will give them a shot, depending on how many of the higher seeds decline offers.  I've seen a few get to good schools in this scenario, maybe 25%.

I think if we take a class with sections taught by a wide variety of teachers and an "easy teacher"-something like Calculus 2 or Logic/Argument maybe-and then compare the average overall GPA's of the all the students in the easy teacher's class vs the hard teacher's class it would give us a start into evaluating if what I asserted earlier is true. (This would just be a first step, but it could provide some insight). Probably some grant money in that area, too.
"Do Teachers With The Highest Average Class GPA Also Have Students With The Highest Overall GPAs?"

[Flaxen Hegemony]

I think if we take a class with sections taught by a wide variety of teachers and an "easy teacher"-something like Calculus 2 or Logic/Argument maybe-and then compare the average overall GPA's of the all the students in the easy teacher's class vs the hard teacher's class it would give us a start into evaluating if what I asserted earlier is true. (This would just be a first step, but it could provide some insight). Probably some grant money in that area, too.
"Do Teachers With The Highest Average Class GPA Also Have Students With The Highest Overall GPAs?"

Did I hear the words "grant money"?   

I'll have to request that data from the college one of these days, and run that correlation.  The pattern you describe may be there.  Plenty of fun breakdowns to consider, too, such as class size and level.  GPAs skew a bit higher with seniors due to self selection (lower GPA students have already dropped out).

Of course, I'll need two course releases, a 20G stipend, and a motivated assistant named Becky to accomplish all this.. haha.

[RedMichael]

I find it incredibly ironic that the discussion about GPA, getting accepted to medical school, etc etc is happening in a John Wells thread. A good and informative read though.

[Flaxen Hegemony]

I find it incredibly ironic that the discussion about GPA, getting accepted to medical school, etc etc is happening in a John Wells thread. A good and informative read though.

Yeah, sorry about that.

Back on topic, I only listen to C2C if I catch it accidentally, but I like John B. Wells from the little I've heard him.  That may just be Noory providing contrast, though.  When speaking understandable English becomes an added bonus, anyone would look good compared to George.

[nooryisawesome]

Yeah, sorry about that.

Back on topic, I only listen to C2C if I catch it accidentally, but I like John B. Wells from the little I've heard him.  That may just be Noory providing contrast, though.  When speaking understandable English becomes an added bonus, anyone would look good compared to George.

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