Art Bell

[Heather Wade]

Subscriptions too.

My kids don't need to go to college. I've got the first month covered. We can do this people.

That's the spirit!  Your kids will have entry level jobs, but an awesome Art Bell show collection.  Totally worth it.

[onan]

and Art Bell schwag.

[jazmunda]

Throw in a wormholin and I'm down for an extra 5 bucks a month. Who's with me?

[onan]

We can sell tickets.

[Richard Groyper]

54 minutes of commercials an hour is still better than the Dave show. 

We all know Art will have to compromise something. We can all live with a few minutes of commercials. I can.

Jazmunda, of course! I would listen if Art read live commercials for three hours. Fuck David Norry!

[jazmunda]

Art and JC are going toe to toe over on Facebook:

[jazmunda]

We all know Art will have to compromise something. We can all live with a few minutes of commercials. I can.

Jazmunda, of course! I would listen if Art read live commercials for three hours. Fuck David Norry!

Some of my favorite moments from classic shows are Art's reading of commercials. So much so that I have a stockpile of HGH. I look and feel 10 years younger.

[Richard Groyper]

and Art Bell schwag.

Sell me cigarettes Art, I'll buy 'em All! I don't even SMOKE!

[Heather Wade]

"You dare dig into that that that wound..."  I'm gonna die laughing over here.  JC doesn't have typing skills on the Devil's infernal computation machine.

[Art Bell]

I thought the big player might have been Live365, but here's a rough breakdown of music costs:

Check the listener hours maximum (5000) and then add the cost per additional hour at .05 per hour/listener. 10,000 listeners x 3 hours x 22 days = 660,000 listener hours - 5000 = 655,000 x .05 = $32,750 + $199 = $32,949 per MONTH.

And wait until it goes to 20,000 listeners?

http://www.live365.com/pro/royalties.live
http://www.live365.com/pro/pricing.live

Bateman has it right, now you see what we are fighting, those are the prices for playing bumper music I think it's insane, unless we can wrap what we want to do into a existing deal we are truly in trouble. People simply don't believe it can cost that much and it should not!

Art

[Richard Groyper]

Some of my favorite moments from classic shows are Art's reading of commercials. So much so that I have a stockpile of HGH. I look and feel 10 years younger.

Do you recall the ear wax candle...

[Richard Groyper]

I thought the big player might have been Live365, but here's a rough breakdown of music costs:

Check the listener hours maximum (5000) and then add the cost per additional hour at .05 per hour/listener. 10,000 listeners x 3 hours x 22 days = 660,000 listener hours - 5000 = 655,000 x .05 = $32,750 + $199 = $32,949 per MONTH.

And wait until it goes to 20,000 listeners?

http://www.live365.com/pro/royalties.live
http://www.live365.com/pro/pricing.live

Bateman has it right, now you see what we are fighting, those are the prices for playing bumper music I think it's insane, unless we can wrap what we want to do into a existing deal we are truly in trouble. People simply don't believe it can cost that much and it should not!

Art

I'm pulling for you Art!

[jazmunda]

I thought the big player might have been Live365, but here's a rough breakdown of music costs:

Check the listener hours maximum (5000) and then add the cost per additional hour at .05 per hour/listener. 10,000 listeners x 3 hours x 22 days = 660,000 listener hours - 5000 = 655,000 x .05 = $32,750 + $199 = $32,949 per MONTH.

And wait until it goes to 20,000 listeners?

http://www.live365.com/pro/royalties.live
http://www.live365.com/pro/pricing.live

Bateman has it right, now you see what we are fighting, those are the prices for playing bumper music I think it's insane, unless we can wrap what we want to do into a existing deal we are truly in trouble. People simply don't believe it can cost that much and it should not!

Art

That's extremely disappointing to hear.  I really hope something can be worked out. Good luck and if it doesn't work out then thanks for all the memories.

[Heather Wade]

They're gouging because they can.  Ridiculous. 
Keep digging for options, Art.  Jazmunda has your first month covered, so there's that. 

[jazmunda]

Jazmunda has your first month covered, so there's that.

Wait. Are comments made on this forum legally binding?

[Eddie Coyle]

    Acquiring bumper music makes our healthcare system look simple and reasonable.

[SixWeekTenure(tm)]

32 grand a month on top of building the studio itself to start? Ouch. Commercials and live reads would help mitigate cost but not that much.

[Danger!UFO]

Art! I'm hoping things go well! If not, clear the board and start over again. We need you back!

[Richard Groyper]

32 grand a month on top of building the studio itself to start? Ouch. Commercials and live reads would help mitigate cost but not that much.

C Crane is going to need to pony up the cash!

[nextgen.fm]

Art and JC are going toe to toe over on Facebook:

He lives!!!!

How dare ART put JC on hold!!


http://youtu.be/XccBxf14dZ0

[Richard Groyper]

He lives!!!!

Appears to be the case.

I thought the big player might have been Live365, but here's a rough breakdown of music costs:

Check the listener hours maximum (5000) and then add the cost per additional hour at .05 per hour/listener. 10,000 listeners x 3 hours x 22 days = 660,000 listener hours - 5000 = 655,000 x .05 = $32,750 + $199 = $32,949 per MONTH.

And wait until it goes to 20,000 listeners?

http://www.live365.com/pro/royalties.live
http://www.live365.com/pro/pricing.live

Bateman has it right, now you see what we are fighting, those are the prices for playing bumper music I think it's insane, unless we can wrap what we want to do into a existing deal we are truly in trouble. People simply don't believe it can cost that much and it should not!

Art

^ This just happened. We'll see. I love's my Art, LOVE'S MY ART!

[nooryisawesome]

I thought the big player might have been Live365, but here's a rough breakdown of music costs:

Check the listener hours maximum (5000) and then add the cost per additional hour at .05 per hour/listener. 10,000 listeners x 3 hours x 22 days = 660,000 listener hours - 5000 = 655,000 x .05 = $32,750 + $199 = $32,949 per MONTH.

And wait until it goes to 20,000 listeners?

http://www.live365.com/pro/royalties.live
http://www.live365.com/pro/pricing.live

Bateman has it right, now you see what we are fighting, those are the prices for playing bumper music I think it's insane, unless we can wrap what we want to do into a existing deal we are truly in trouble. People simply don't believe it can cost that much and it should not!

Art

That sucks. Have you tried seeing if you can originate the show out of a terrestrial radio studio. Those shows stream online and have bumper music in tact.

[Heather Wade]

Here's a longshot:  You've got 5 months until July, have you considered getting permission from as many artists as possible during that time?  Might reduce costs, at the very least there would be a few artists (maybe more, you never know) that you wouldn't have to pay monthly copyright for.  Perhaps ask them if you can pay a flat, one-time fee for lifetime permission for use as bumper music?

ZZ Top, Crystal Gayle, and the (remaining) Highwaymen would give you permission.  Would be cool to offer the artist an optional on-air interview in exchange for permission to play their music on your show.  I'm not an expert on Jack, just brainstorming.

[jazmunda]

Here's a longshot:  You've got 5 months until July, have you considered getting permission from as many artists as possible during that time?  Might reduce costs, at the very least there would be a few artists (maybe more, you never know) that you wouldn't have to pay monthly copyright for.  Perhaps ask them if you can pay a flat, one-time fee for lifetime permission for use as bumper music?

ZZ Top, Crystal Gayle, and the (remaining) Highwaymen would give you permission.  Would be cool to offer the artist an optional on-air interview in exchange for permission to play their music on your show.  I'm not an expert on Jack, just brainstorming.

I'm no expert but I don't think think the artists have much say. The record companies are the masters and the artists are the slaves.

[SixWeekTenure(tm)]

It's just not feasible. Identifying and then hunting down the copyright holders to ask them for permission individually would be a nightmare.

[coaster]

Check the listener hours maximum (5000) and then add the cost per additional hour at .05 per hour/listener. 10,000 listeners x 3 hours x 22 days = 660,000 listener hours - 5000 = 655,000 x .05 = $32,750 + $199 = $32,949 per MONTH.

That is crazy high.

[sydtron]

Some of my favorite moments from classic shows are Art's reading of commercials. So much so that I have a stockpile of HGH. I look and feel 10 years younger.

Ah yes.... But how is that third ball treating you sir?

[Richard Groyper]

Ah yes.... But how is that third ball treating you sir?

Three balls? Damn! Probably need a seat doughnut.

[jazmunda]

Ah yes.... But how is that third ball treating you sir?

It's hardly noticeable in my armpit. 

[Heather Wade]

It's just not feasible. Identifying and then hunting down the copyright holders to ask them for permission individually would be a nightmare.

It would be fun.