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Quote from: Jackstar on September 20, 2022, 02:42:41 PMI have spent no small amount of time warning you all of the fuckin' tickin' fuckin' time bombs that I have seen coming. Having known a Finn or two, I'd pay stark heed to any such warning. Shit has gotten real, and will continue to. Face reality. Our world is at war.


That looks like a great gift for someone but only if I could read it to someone functionally illiterate and I could scan the text before being spoken aloud, lest someone get triggered, or set off, or learn some dangerous information that only -legitimate- sailors should know. A tall order but that looks like a tower of a book. I would probably 1-click buy if available but obviously not.

I don't need any more rare paperweights or doorstops anyway.

Ha. I will join in you in the last comment, maybe the former. But for sure I have too many books. I'm convicted, I guess, to think at some point, others might like. Maybe not just for a doorstops. Augean stables effort to get rid of them all. I'm very suspicious of the 'online' and 'electronic' books. Easily tracked, edited, deleted- they even had a whole thing many years ago when Amazon deleted 1984 from Kindles. The irony was only deemed ok, by me, because I thought they should've chosen Fahrenheit 451 for their signally. And then force Metric so we don't even know what Fahrenheit is.

"He is winding down folks." Norry had yet another 'light worker' gal about 'abundance' and she knows all about it it due to 'quantum' and 'all is energy.' 'Don't judge yourself but create momentum in your life.'

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 20, 2022, 02:21:14 PMYes, very much a continuation of the air-power-vs-navy debate from WWII.  Air force will argue for air power and denigrate everything else, Navy for ships (including undersea) and denigrate everything else.  Should surprise absolutely no one.

Much like big vaccine companies and organizations will do the same for their babies, which seemed to astonish some folks for some reason.

Yeah, the Joint Chiefs and various Congressional committees were supposed to settle but the rivalry is still there. I think the Space Force deal was an interesting blow to both. Just because both were trying to get into that market and resented NASA. "It is like flying!" "No it is like shipping!"

I'm trying to recall the book. Hard to find. But some callers talked about him on Art's programs many years ago. Some captain who was claiming 'floating time-bombs' due to lack of security, corruption, questionable finance, and river and port conditions. He was a Finn. Found it. But still hard to get and find actual book.
https://www.amazon.com/Floating-Time-Bomb-Pekka-Joki/dp/0533155002
 

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 20, 2022, 02:04:10 PMYes particularly for those of us wayward sheep who base our entire faith upon the diligence of the Shepherd's search.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm4bIED30IA

I still have a problem with modern services or clapping at church. But did go to a Black church for one service and it was, frankly, awesome. Some old lady playing a piano and choir, and whole audience, belting out the tunes to much merriment. The lady looked looked the wanna-be suitor to Red Foxx in "Sanford and Sons" who he always trys to avoid but then she just starts belting on the piano (which looked like the kind in grade-schools, mass-produced, and likely never tuned.) But starts nailing it. Impressive. The preaching was inspired with lots of give and take. People participate, not just listen.... or nap.

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 20, 2022, 01:51:40 PMAn impressive new ship-bomb they are trying to sell, sad end for a ship I knew, it used to haul frozen cod and pollock back from the Aleutians

https://twitter.com/AFResearchLab/status/1571897735254798336



A freighter, but a very small one.

I love the snark and inter-agency plotting there for funding and support: "lumbering submarine." 

It might be cheaper though to just hire some alkie captain to pilot the vessel.

Just got a book, haven't read it yet, about that ghost ship and crazy stuff. Martime  law and finance is amazing. Bzyantine and not 'sexy' so most don't pay attention, even though most everything we buy and need moves, at some point, by ship. Sometimes people can't even figure out who owns the ship and there are so many levels of ownership, leasing, leasing back, insuring, reinsuring, and types of legal relationships related to the goods, and sailors.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58395055-dead-in-the-water

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 20, 2022, 01:46:55 PMHe should have put on the old Prince of Wales crown-thing, I don't know if it is a coronet when it is a prince or whether it is a crown proper, but I think they had abandoned all that nonsense back in the 60s when they made it, they included the arch thing which is supposed to represent an imperial crown and, strident and boastful as the Welsh are, I don't think anyone has ever accused them of imperial ambition.  Very Jetsons-looking, I would be surprised if they dragged that out again for the new prince as it is so dated style-wise, but I kind of like it.

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I want him to don one of Joshua P. Warren's 'wishing machine' helmets!

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 20, 2022, 01:41:05 PMYeah they are totally wrong about that, verses 25 and 26 specifically mention "cattle" where other translations do "livestock".  I tootered at them to point this out but, as godless heathens, they are not interested.  I know what AJ is getting at and the sort of sermon he probably listened to that led him to say this -- dominion over the cattle but not the beasts is a sort of divine endorsement of animal husbandry which may or may not include eating, that isn't clear until the Fall iirc.

He would have done better to cite Cain and Abel and God's acceptance of Abel's meat offering and rejection of Cain's organic quinoa with microgreens which probably included bugs, but Abel was a "keeper of sheep" so God's taste ran more to mutton.

As people become more urban a lot of the beauty and truth in the stories and metaphors aren't as understood. Differences between sheep and goat behaviors. The sheer (a pun) livelihood based on your stock. Feast or famine and lengths a shepherd goes to protect the flock. Your whole net worth based on your livestock or crops.

And same with the later various provisions on eating, combinations of eating, and so on which, likely, were more of health concerns. They didn't have a Fauci back then to scold them. 

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 20, 2022, 01:02:50 PMNot quite his worst.  He broke out the full panoply of hardware to try to overawe Trumpykins, apparently.

He needs more flair.

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 20, 2022, 12:08:35 PMAJ is on the bug thing now

https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1571915752629747713

IDK the original languages but I recall Esau taking his flocks and beasts away from Canaan and his brother Issac. I forget some of the details. Some translations even specify cattle. But other versions likely involve bovine also by implications (beasts, etc.) Then again, maybe is was the like the old west in which the sheepherders and cattlemen had much enmity.

Quote from: pate on September 19, 2022, 05:23:54 PMI imagine he must have been a fan?

Did any of the other former Presidents show up or are the rest going to attend the Official Quean's 'Membrance™ in DC on the 21st?

Which they all were invited to (except for Dark Brandon, I think he was left off that list).

Nautical Shore.

-p

I think I heard on NPR that Biden is going with his wife/handler. Not sure if he will be aware where he is but I hope the soup is sufficiently cooled. But, in tradition, maybe it will be some gruel. And "no more, sir."

Quote from: Jackstar on September 19, 2022, 03:58:32 PM
https://youtu.be/cr6a0ojiw7A

I had not heard of that band. Thanks. GG claimed he was going to off himself on stage. Didn't, took the hotshot and out, I hear, and glad because I don't like that kind of thing or message it would send to children. Danzig been knocked out. So much for roids (I'm kidding! No defamation!) The new BF singer goes on to be some kinda lefty poetry type now. I love living the the city. (Lee Ving was in the movie Clue! With all the alternative endings.) There was a moment when DC punk was strong also. Gov't Issue, Fugazi, etc. Ultimately, at some point, need to learn to play and audiences age out of scene, sorta. Decline of Western Civilization is now available, for a long time not so. But both are so good. Not sure why, finally, released again. Haha.

Knapp had some dude on about Butch Cassidy really survived. He sounds appropriately grizzled and makes asides like "shooting after them running sheep on cattle land." Also threw out the term "Jack Mormon!" I like this guy.

Related but not guest:
https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/blm/cultresser/co/2/chap7.htm

Credits both of you. The the Richter comment, we are all more richer from him, there is a time for flourishes (I guess) and such but keep it to the score, I say. And the possible Ian quotation! Besides some good ol' fire and brimstone I think he protested the Pope, on at least one infamous occasion with a sign even! I wished he would've been a guest on with Art to discuss Anti-Christ, Jooose, Rome, EU, royalty, AI, and etc. (I know he would frown upon some of K_Dubbs endeavors but, maybe, could make peace with some psalms or hymns.)

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 19, 2022, 12:10:34 PMI liked the organ at the Abbey, that last piece (I don't know if you call it a recessional if it is a body, but it when they were walking out) was literally a Fantasia, they are supposed to kind of play it in an improvisatory way, not metronome-rigid, but then again you like Richter so not surprising haha I thought the organist did a great job teasing a well-differentiated real baroque organ sound out of that typically thick-as-pudding English instrument, that perked my ears up!  The one at Windsor was hopeless, though, pure white bread, and it was the same prelude & fugue we heard in Scotland just not played as well.

I bet you hated the ecumenical part, too, but I was totally there for the big black Pentecostal lady in the cape, show those absurd chinless cripples in chasubles what real holy elegance looks like!  Chuck is going to go all interfaith, though, probably have Tibetan gongs and whirling dervishes and some heathen savage from the Amazon sticking sea-urchin spines in his penis.  That is where I draw the line!

Though of a different kirk (haha) I was wishing the visage or ghost of Ian Paisley would show up and speak his mind about various goings-on. At least for a tribute (I don't think even mentioned) for a Mountbatten. Organ work, keeping it music comments not some sordid stuff, I like keeping it to the music. At least in things like church, services, etc. Go wild at a hockey game or baseball.
ps: it is a plot. Though, in theory, all will be ok, there could be hard times. Which, are a good thing! Best metal tempered in fire!

pps: ecumeniciialism is a Papist/Joo plot.

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 19, 2022, 11:20:53 AMWell that is quite enough monarchist propaganda for a good long while!  Newscasters blithely reassuring us that we are looking at one present king and two future kings -- we shall see.

I note the funeral began early and ended late 

The Archbishop of Canterbury's sermon was godawful, jargon such as "Servant-leadership" and a jarring, unsubtle disparaging reference contrasting the queen's memory of gracious service with unnamed others who try to cling to power (as though the queen hasn't been clinging to power with her grubby little fingernails this whole time) whose memories will vanish.  I did not expect Trumpiepoo to show up in Westminster Abbey since he was Not Invited, but there he was 🤡 Should have stuck to reading scripture.

King Harald's decrepitude was duly noted in the Norwegian press Kongen måtte tørke en tåre og hadde problemer med å holde posituren (The king dried a tear and had trouble standing), a sampling of Norwegian twitter:

https://twitter.com/VerdezWasTaken/status/1571888843623628801

(If our beloved King Harald gets so much as a cold at this funeral, we will have to declare war)

Also that bit of stage-machinery descending into the crypt was awkward af, I'm surprised they didn't have clouds of dry ice fog and spooky lights, or flames and devils like Don Giovanni

I have issues. Maybe that is good, I don't know. I think English beers and foods (shocking) and appreciated the Dutch and German 'influences' and such. And the obvious Norskie stuff, but they figured 'screw this place' and go on to other endeavors. But to return via other ways after some actions in France and elsewhere! I thought the organist did bit too much flair and improvisation. I like that a baseball or hockey game. Not in church or cathedral.

ps: the Joose and Catholics might have an idea with regard to male pattern baldness. Put a cap on it. Not full on like Muszzies, who also also have idea about it for sun sake.

Quote from: Corona Kitty on September 18, 2022, 03:58:49 PMThey are funny but owning one, would be a different story. Loud fuckers.

And like a Perry Mason or old tv/book plot the damn birds could give you away. I was hoping that Rense, Myke, etc have birds for some kinda 'system' to avoid interceptions or monitoring or deplatforming their shows. Maybe, even, some kind of cheap security system for any intruders- or due to bird sensitivities even 5-G based stuff! But, I guess, just weird pet choices.

Quote from: Juan on September 18, 2022, 01:56:09 PMThe story in North Carolina is that Blackbeard was finally captured by the British Navy.  They beheaded him aboard his own ship, and his headless body jumped up, dove overboard, and swam around the ship seven times before sinking.  The head was put on a pike and marched through Blackbeard's home town, Bath, N.C., and Portsmith, Virginia.  It was then put on a pole at the entrance to the harbor.  But it was stolen back by the pirates. In the 1920s it was reported by reliable witnesses to be still used as a drinking vessel.  It had been sawn in half at the eye hole levels and coated in silver.  Pirates still living on Ocracoke Island used it in mead drinking ceremonies.

The swimming around post beheading! Interesting. I've heard chicken do that. Never seen. I did once cut a head off a snake and kicked into creek and came back later and it was still twitching and trying to bite underwater! Weird but I guess not really because reptiles have different systems.

Quote from: Juan on September 18, 2022, 01:56:09 PMThe story in North Carolina is that Blackbeard was finally captured by the British Navy.  They beheaded him aboard his own ship, and his headless body jumped up, dove overboard, and swam around the ship seven times before sinking.  The head was put on a pike and marched through Blackbeard's home town, Bath, N.C., and Portsmith, Virginia.  It was then put on a pole at the entrance to the harbor.  But it was stolen back by the pirates. In the 1920s it was reported by reliable witnesses to be still used as a drinking vessel.  It had been sawn in half at the eye hole levels and coated in silver.  Pirates still living on Ocracoke Island used it in mead drinking ceremonies.

I have not heard that! Thank you. People think the cartels and Arabian types are weird and cruel, and they are but, as you point out, historically all can be. I like the Indians. Some crazy stuff. But, I think, the thing missing in modern torture and death is the underlying message and purpose. It used to be, almost, about YOU, entering to God or whatever hereafter, and so you would 'sing your song' or whatever. It also was a completion of a life and understood that the inflictors would, eventually, go through it also. That is way cool about the skull drinking vessel being kept around and used for years!

WTF, now they saying Pulaski mighta been a gender-bender or cross-dresser? I guess this is old news but new to me. I call bs but 'follow the science.' Crazy how they want to take down everyone. Cue Pollack jokes now!

There are many types who love honey. I like it also. Who can forget the Bo Derek scene. But it is approaching weed/hemp in some claims! All kinds of things from protection from allergies to fixing wounds! And tax-breaks if you raise bees via an AG Exemption- reminds me when some lawyers bought sheep or goats to get some weird tax break or claim, pre Corona-Chan, some room in your house was an 'office.' IRS cracked down on much of that. Though I like the idea of having own stock. Especially since you seen the prices of even basics like eggs! So a coop doesn't seem like a bad deal, and eggs much more tasty when chickens eat bugs and such. They will eat almost all of your leftovers also.

I think, if distilled, all sugars become the same alcohol (except wood, stay away from that. Though storage in various woods ok?) But certain processes allow more flavor, remaining sugars, etc. And so that results in taste. But also hangovers. No science proven. But clearer the better in the latter regard. Legally, in the USA, vodka, for example, is a 'grain neutral spirit' so one would think there should be no difference between cheap stuff or the rapper bottle-service type.

I'm guessing, only guessing, drinking mead or any beverage out of a skull of your enemy post battle should be a 'red flag' for a suitor. But it could be the chicks back then dug it. Idk.

Syrett had Donald Jeffries (frequent Rense guest) on last night. And took new callers. Mostly of whom were referencing civil war and various doom scenarios. And a UFO guy who, I didn't hear all cause trimming my sages but seemed to believe all UFO photos including the Billy Meire ones! But he uses photoshop to prove, via rendering, them all good. Very RCH like.

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 18, 2022, 11:30:32 AMOh no!  It can be made dry as the driest sherry, there is a stand at the local farmers' market with many different styles, one would pass for fino in a blind tasting, I am sure.  It's how much of the sugar you allow to turn to alcohol.  The driest are the most basic styles.  I think their sweeter styles they actually add honey or fruit or some other sweet stuff back in; I don't drink those.

Now whether the alcohol you get from honey is different from grape or potato or barley I am not sure.  And that poem iirc maintains that you are not drunk if you can get back up but only if you stay on the floor.

Yes. I recall now. Still don't recall the actual poem or author (if there is one or some traditional deal.) I haven't tried mead except once. I still suspect a source for fighting and/or hangovers. I have no scientific evidence but only personal anecdotes and observations. Clearer the booze, less of hangover. Whiskey causes fights. Wine and such makes you hungover. Beer is stability factor but will put on the lbs. Liquid bread and for centuries people survived on it. Though Russians and many Scandis don't abide but my booze rule summer means clear and winter means brown. Sort of like your rules about wearing white. I do break the rules, however.

Quote from: Juan on September 18, 2022, 08:30:32 AMHeadline this morning: Fan reportedly arrested during Texas-UTSA game for trying to mount Bevo

Local news mentioned a person arrested. The tweets said a 'disturbed person.' So one hopes the 'mount' of Bevo was not an aggie-style, animal-husbandry type of mount but simply means his was trying to ride Bevo. Either way a dangerous prospect except that, I hear, that Bevo is usually given some chill pills. This might not be the case anymore with this one and state of animal rights etc.

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 18, 2022, 10:59:04 AMNot right now, I have to go flash my nippies at the mead-hall 

I think mead is a part of the problem, back when. I only had once but I suspect it has lots of sugar. So bad hangovers and would lead to general orneriness and wanting to fight. I forget the poem but vaguely recall some line "doth prostrate lie but to rise again and drink once more."

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 18, 2022, 10:49:54 AM

MP is so good. I forget the precise term but there is a term about cultural self-effacement and protocols. Like the proper amount of time to refuse something and a weird almost dance about it. 'Would you like a coffee?' 'No' 'Are you sure?' 'No, if not a bother...' 'I already had some on...' 'Well, if you insist.' 'I'll get some.' 'I hate to be any trouble and must get going' 'No stay at least for one cup' and so on. And then leaving a situation which can take a LONG time. The Irish are better and do their patented Irish Exit (often stiffing others with a bill, however.)

Quote from: K_Dubb on September 18, 2022, 09:38:40 AMRe Bladder-Skull probably some weird birth defect, the usual explanations for those names are unfailingly prosaic, Bluetooth probably had a prominent rotten tooth, Shaggybritches had hairy legs, Redbeard, Blackhair, Fairhair, the Boneless probably just means he couldn't get it up, ancient people could be shy about naming the peen and referred to it euphemistically:  knee, thigh, loins, any nearby part but you know what they meant.  Even "foot" could mean peen sometimes, or the fundament as in "Oh My Foot!" like my grandma used to say, not thinking, but it obviously means something down there.

Mange takk! For both replies. The sagas approach levels not seen except, maybe, some Bible books, when they  get into all the lineages. I like though that times don't really change. Maybe they do now, IDK, but when I was younger we all had nicknames, usually 'insider' or even weird constructs of which the origins were complex. Based on features, bad plays in a game, some incident, ethnicity, or whatever. Amazingly some people accepted and we still use them today and others use them- without knowing the origins. Example: "DT" which meant Down Town which explained, if asked, from Simon&Simon cop but, really, it involved coming in and he was performing an act on a fat chick while drunk.

I devolved this thread and should probably start a saga thread.

Quote from: pate on September 17, 2022, 09:44:02 PMWell, if "Unn the Deep-minded" was a female, then (if there is any sort of order to this chart) presumably "Olaf Peacock" was female.  No names were spelled "Olof," btw.

-p

/self-reported:  off-topic

That was the third or so that spun me so I figured just bad translation. One always see Olaf or Olav etc but the OlOf was weird. And the odd parlance. I think clearly it was a typo in Laxdale Sada Everyman's Library #597 1964. Because was corrected later. But threw me a knuckle-ball when I saw it and got me into this situation of asking BG, of which you provided some answers! There was no 21 and Me or even Hollywood so who knows? Unn was female. She had kids and also various and sundry affairs and auctions and will provisos.

Quote from: pate on September 17, 2022, 09:23:11 PMI have in front of me "The Sagas of the Icelanders" (permanent loan from an old friend, haven't yet read it) Penguin Group, 2001 (ISBN 0-14-100003-1) and I see there is a Chart called "Family Ties in Laxardal" p272  and the Chapter/Saga "Laxardal" pp271-559.

I will take a peek at this chart...

Hmm, the closest name on this chart is "Olaf the White" who together with "Unn the Deep-minded" had an offspring (presumably male) named "Thorstein the Red."

Wait, later down that "Thorstein the Red" line is an "Olaf Peacock" who together with "Thorgerd" had what appear to be a crap-ton of dottirs(sp?).

I am guessing that the males are on the left side of a union and the females on the right (male primacy as read from left to right) in this chart, so "Olaf the White" would be female, and "Olaf Peacock" would be a man?

Nautical Shore if this helps you at all...

-p

/self-reported:  off-topic

It, sorta, does. Takk! But I still say sorta! So confusing but a good start. One thinks Bible is hard with the begets and begats but, then one, goes into the sagas. Often of which have somewhat conflicting tales. Note this is why Bible and Sagas are more truthful than some think. Because even a simple car accident has different versions, and all will say what they saw, did, recollect, are true. All lawyers and cops will tell you worst kind of truth (though will USE to their advantage since our biases.) I digress, sorry. Unn is key to the story. She was a strong woman, so surprised not more celebrated these days.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 17, 2022, 08:26:07 PM

A month ago? Not sure since I go a lot, but I went to our airport n saw a bus. Very weird deal. Lots of questionable types getting on and when I tried to take pics I got a bad vibe . I  think it was a Biden bus. There was one lady with a clip board and directing who clearly was American. And some security types who started to look at me and move. This was in the cell-phone lot where you wait to pick up people, and late and I was already sorta pissed to get the call from 'hey, can you pick us up' so didn't engage. Good for goose, good for gander. Fun o see them getting them since others targeted for decades.

Quote from: pate on September 17, 2022, 08:43:07 PMYou could come take a look at the books I have read (the ones I have kept, and not given away) on my bookshelves here in my office if you like.

You might want to borrow a few of the tomes on my Politics shelf;  my full set of the "Great Books of the Western World" are unfortunately not available for loan (I haven't read ALL of them quite yet) as they were a gift to me from my mother who happened to be a librarian before she retired.  The library she was working at was going to throw them away, too much space!

Of additional interest (and need) to you might be the several English textbooks, dictionaries (encyclopedic, unabridged some of them.  Although the small Collegiate dictionary I read cover-to-cover between 4th & 5th grade still resides with my folks, who have a smallish collection of some of my other books, isn't here in my office).

I even have a few old Latin textbooks from the '50s, haven't finished with those yet:  use them more as a reference material from time to time.

Did you learn any Latin in you Doctorin' Skool?

I am amazed that you are so much more literate than you writing abilities seem to indicate.

I would love to have a drink and get retarded with you.  I bet it would be a hoot.

-p

/self-reported:  off-topic

Speaking of which, we have different interests and collections. BUT I'm flummoxed, I think a bad translation. But could be some weirdo proto-Hollywood type of deal. It was resolved but, at one point, in The Laxdale Saga, it said an Olof but in a way that seemed daughter. Also weird parentheses and "hersir" stuff, like some Hollywood stuff! I think translation bad because, later, no sex-mixed up. Though fun stuff that would not set well in the public these days, including a sorta auction of women held by a women! Also one notes all the nicknames. Lots of backstories that are unadressed. "Bladder-Skull?" K_dubb help me!