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Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #240 on: April 22, 2015, 03:42:35 PM »
C'mon.  Royals players JUICING?  Maybe the raw veg smoothies, but not any kind of injectables...  I'll believe the Chi-town Sox or Oakland A's, but I refuse to believe that my beloved Royals need that "edge,"   look at the data...  BTW good game last night, got a bit scary (but not really, more dramatic effect) when the Twinkies went up 5-3 in the 6th or 7th.... 

No batters on EITHER team HBP, btw.  It was good solid back-to-basics MIDWEST style baseball.  Nunya Left/Right coast thuggishness needed to be addressed by either team...

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #241 on: April 22, 2015, 04:21:01 PM »

   I find myself reading about baseball more than watching it.

I might have already posted this here:
"His interest lies not in how fast a given pitch travels, but how fast it appears to a hitter a factor that hinges upon not just its speed, but its placement in the strike zone and the spot in the sequence in which it is thrown and how many milliseconds it can shave off the time a hitter has to react to it. "


http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2014/6/18/5818380/effective-velocity-pitching-theory-profile-perry-husband

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #242 on: April 23, 2015, 12:21:50 PM »
I might have already posted this here:
"His interest lies not in how fast a given pitch travels, but how fast it appears to a hitter a factor that hinges upon not just its speed, but its placement in the strike zone and the spot in the sequence in which it is thrown and how many milliseconds it can shave off the time a hitter has to react to it. "


http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2014/6/18/5818380/effective-velocity-pitching-theory-profile-perry-husband

I enjoy articles like that about the science of the game, thanks for posting it.

Meanwhile, Jose Bautista keeps on owning the Orioles.  Will they ever learn? http://deadspin.com/jose-bautista-cant-stop-clowning-the-orioles-1699429671


Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #243 on: April 25, 2015, 01:14:49 PM »
In the same game he injured himself by whipping the ball from RF to 1B on a single .

Orioles are upset because he stared them down after hitting a homer. Wait you threw behind him and THEY act like the victims.

A strange baseball "code" I don't get. I pitcher can pump his fist after a big strike out all the time, but a hitter can't show off when he hit a homer.

I did notice this season, everybody is on edge and flipping out and it's just April.

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #244 on: April 29, 2015, 05:02:01 PM »

   Orioles and White Sox played their game in 2 hours and 3 minutes. Clearly, to speed up the pace of the game-get rid of crowds.

    Baltimore now travels to an equally empty park in Tampa.

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #245 on: April 29, 2015, 05:11:03 PM »
   Orioles and White Sox played their game in 2 hours and 3 minutes. Clearly, to speed up the pace of the game-get rid of crowds.

    Baltimore now travels to an equally empty park in Tampa.
Will there be a display in Cooperstown? This is an historic event in baseball, made possible by the contributions of many youths and gentle-giants African-Americans. Unfortunately, not a good one- unlike all the famously great black players already there.....

ps: I didn't watch it but was curious what they did to make it so short? Cut National Anthem, etc? Still have announcers and organ music, 7th inning stretch, etc.? Did the players hustle or lackadaisical (game still counts afterall).

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #246 on: April 29, 2015, 05:23:10 PM »
Will there be a display in Cooperstown? This is an historic event in baseball, made possible by the contributions of many youths and gentle-giants African-Americans. Unfortunately, not a good one- unlike all the famously great black players already there.....

ps: I didn't watch it but was curious what they did to make it so short? Cut National Anthem, etc? Still have announcers and organ music, 7th inning stretch, etc.? Did the players hustle or lackadaisical (game still counts afterall).

      I didn't see the game in Harare, I mean Baltimore today, but I figure some of the above was probably skipped and the conditions were so unique that even Latin players hustled to get out of there.

     Be proud Baltimore! Images of a dystopian wasteland are no longer just from Sci-Fi films.

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #247 on: April 29, 2015, 05:32:49 PM »
      I didn't see the game in Harare, I mean Baltimore today, but I figure some of the above was probably skipped and the conditions were so unique that even Latin players hustled to get out of there.

     Be proud Baltimore! Images of a dystopian wasteland are no longer just from Sci-Fi films.
Soooo my local AM guy just took a caller who had a friend who went. According to his friend's claims (as he related, and I think I caught most of it):
1) there was no announcing for at bats
2) there was music
3) there was National Anthem (but nothing else, Take me out 7th inning stretch, races, antics)
4) there were some season-ticket holder fans there (in the right field and could be heard singing the National Anthem and cheering, but barely heard and only around 100.)
5) one gate was open and one vendor (into that right-field area that had fence or something around it)
6) there was lots of press there (and he thinks that's why one concession open)
Not verified- but the caller seemed legit and told some other stories (going to a White Sox game and staying during a 4hour rainout for resume play with only 50+ still there and described the experience as being "like a softball game" and "surreal" being able to hear players talking to each other and like "playing in a church league" cause nobody there except players.

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #248 on: April 29, 2015, 05:53:01 PM »
Maybe this will start a trend.  Who needs the fans anyway?  Just have The Guberment pick-up the tab for MLB.  Look what it's done for the city of Baltimore.

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #249 on: April 29, 2015, 05:55:06 PM »
The game sure did go quick as hell. I caught the last few innings on a stream I found online. No one looked like they wanted to be there.

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #250 on: April 29, 2015, 06:27:13 PM »
The game sure did go quick as hell. I caught the last few innings on a stream I found online. No one looked like they wanted to be there.
I didn't see but fast game. It still "counted" though, early in season, I wonder about player hustle. So you think it was elimination of commercials, in park antics, etc making it quicker or the players/umps speeding things up?

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #251 on: April 29, 2015, 06:38:16 PM »
I didn't see but fast game. It still "counted" though, early in season, I wonder about player hustle. So you think it was elimination of commercials, in park antics, etc making it quicker or the players/umps speeding things up?
The stream I watched broke for commercial, but it was around a thirty second break. The players were definitely playing fast. I don't blame them though, seeing as there were protestors right outside the gates.
edit-NOw that I think about it, the commercial break was probably for the stream itself, not the game. I'm a derp.

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #252 on: April 29, 2015, 06:45:46 PM »
The stream I watched broke for commercial, but it was around a thirty second break. The players were definitely playing fast. I don't blame them though, seeing as there were protestors right outside the gates.
edit-NOw that I think about it, the commercial break was probably for the stream itself, not the game. I'm a derp.
Haha, streaming is a mixed bag (though similar phenomena can happen between radio, Sat, cable and apps) watching hockey in a tense game the other night I get an APP 'alert' over 30secs before the official NBCSports streaming app had the game being over. My team won, n I didn't check app, so not that mad but still....thinking of ways of arbitrage betting in some of these circumstances (with others not bookies or Vegas since they know about the "live" aspect being not real) ;)

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #253 on: April 29, 2015, 08:06:37 PM »
... 4) there were some... fans there... only around 100.)...

I've been to a few A's and Giants games that seemed like they had about that many, of course the 'official' crowd was announced as being more.

(That was back in the mid-80s when the A's were commonly referred to as the 'Triple A's', and both teams were horrible)

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #254 on: April 29, 2015, 08:14:08 PM »
...   I find myself reading about baseball more than watching it...

Just today I was in a used book store and discovered an organization called The Society for American Baseball Research puts out various publications.

On the opposite end of the spectrum is the original sports 'tell-all' book Ball Four...

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #255 on: April 29, 2015, 08:18:06 PM »
(That was back in the mid-80s when the A's were commonly referred to as the 'Triple A's', and both teams were horrible)
Oh, man, but the A's team that emerged after that in the LaRussa years - the Bash Brothers Canseco and McGwire, Dave "Smoke" Stewart, "Eck" - Dennis Eckersley, etc., etc.  That was such a fun team to watch!  It's crazy that they didn't win more World Series titles than they did.

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #256 on: April 29, 2015, 08:29:09 PM »
Oh, man, but the A's team that emerged after that in the LaRussa years - the Bash Brothers Canseco and McGwire, Dave "Smoke" Stewart, "Eck" - Dennis Eckersley, etc., etc.  That was such a fun team to watch!  It's crazy that they didn't win more World Series titles than they did.

You mean more than one.

Trivia question:  Q:  which team in their division (AL West) won more WS during that era than they did?  A:  Twins

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #257 on: April 29, 2015, 09:51:06 PM »
I've been to a few A's and Giants games that seemed like they had about that many, of course the 'official' crowd was announced as being more.

(That was back in the mid-80s when the A's were commonly referred to as the 'Triple A's', and both teams were horrible)

     The Giants and A's of 1983-85 were really bad,. That '85 Giants team was horrific. But '86 turned the tide for both teams and by 1989 that was the World Series. The Oakland Mausoleum still in use is pretty pathetic.

     
Just today I was in a used book store and discovered an organization called The Society for American Baseball Research puts out various publications.

On the opposite end of the spectrum is the original sports 'tell-all' book Ball Four...
         
         Wrote book reports for Ball Four and The Bronx Zoo in fourth grade. I left out the "beaver shooting" instances and still regret it 30 years later.

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #258 on: April 30, 2015, 12:12:22 AM »
... I left out the "beaver shooting" instances and still regret it 30 years later.

Haha, I wasn't even there and now I regret it too.  What DID you include?

"I'm Glad You Didn't Take It Personally"  was a good follow up, although a book like Ball Four is in a class of it's own, especialy when read as a kid (I must have been in Jr High, although there were several re-readings of it the next several years)

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #259 on: April 30, 2015, 12:30:02 AM »
Haha, I wasn't even there and now I regret it too.  What DID you include?

"I'm Glad You Didn't Take It Personally"  was a good follow up, although a book like Ball Four is in a class of it's own, especialy when read as a kid (I must have been in Jr High, although there were several re-readings of it the next several years)

     Thankully the book report was only two pages so I basically could outline his career and that covered it. My teacher had never heard of him or the book, so she would have naively believed pretty much anything. I expected confrontation when I presented that book as my choice, but her ignorance of it(this was 15 years after it's release) pleasantly surprised me.

      It took 20 years for me to finally track down the follow up, and it is quite good. Got it at a used place(first edition from '71) for about 3 bucks.

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #260 on: April 30, 2015, 12:38:14 AM »
The Coliseum was not that bad before Al Davis destroyed it.
For baseball, you once could smoke out in the upper deck and no one cared.
Its current decrepitude hides what are pretty great baseball fans.

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #261 on: April 30, 2015, 12:45:24 AM »
The Coliseum was not that bad before Al Davis destroyed it.
For baseball, you once could smoke out in the upper deck and no one cared.
Its current decrepitude hides what are pretty great baseball fans.

   I recall an afternoon game during the August, 1995 "renovation", where every home run to left(this being '95, there were at least 4) sent hard hatted construction workers scattering. The left field bleachers were basically an active construction project as the game was played. It was quite amusing to see. McGwire's home run sailed over the Budweiser sign with ease. 39 homers in 317 AB that year was an augury of what was to come.

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #262 on: April 30, 2015, 12:58:03 AM »
The Coliseum was not that bad before Al Davis destroyed it.
For baseball, you once could smoke out in the upper deck and no one cared.
Its current decrepitude hides what are pretty great baseball fans.





The ghost of Al Davis still haunts the Raiders.

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #263 on: April 30, 2015, 01:04:17 AM »
How about that Orioles game?


Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #264 on: April 30, 2015, 07:10:05 AM »
Soooo my local AM guy just took a caller who had a friend who went. According to his friend's claims (as he related, and I think I caught most of it):
1) there was no announcing for at bats
2) there was music
3) there was National Anthem (but nothing else, Take me out 7th inning stretch, races, antics)
4) there were some season-ticket holder fans there (in the right field and could be heard singing the National Anthem and cheering, but barely heard and only around 100.)
5) one gate was open and one vendor (into that right-field area that had fence or something around it)
6) there was lots of press there (and he thinks that's why one concession open)
Not verified- but the caller seemed legit and told some other stories (going to a White Sox game and staying during a 4hour rainout for resume play with only 50+ still there and described the experience as being "like a softball game" and "surreal" being able to hear players talking to each other and like "playing in a church league" cause nobody there except players.

I saw some photo and there were a few fans trying to watch the O's and the gate attendees would not let them in.

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #265 on: May 01, 2015, 09:40:13 AM »
How about that Orioles game?



Reminds me of a Tampa Bay Rays game ;D

Edit in: Ooops Eddie made the Tampa joke first. Still a funny line  :)

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #266 on: May 03, 2015, 03:52:50 AM »
   Orioles and White Sox played their game in 2 hours and 3 minutes. Clearly, to speed up the pace of the game-get rid of crowds.

    Baltimore now travels to an equally empty park in Tampa.

bump to politics, hehe.  Yep a first...

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #267 on: May 03, 2015, 06:05:17 PM »
Say what you want about ESPN but Sunday Night Baseball is the best presentation in the game, from camera angles to announcing. Dan Schulman deserves a bigger gig.

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #268 on: May 03, 2015, 06:16:25 PM »
Say what you want about ESPN but Sunday Night Baseball is the best presentation in the game, from camera angles to announcing. Dan Schulman deserves a bigger gig.

They could trying showing someone besides Red Sox and Yankees every single week. It's really become a joke how worthless ESPN is these days. If it doesn't happen inside the northeast it doesn't exist to the northeast media. And no everyone doesn't want to see the Red Sox and or Yankees 3x a week. Not even playoff teams. Pathetic.

Also Gary Thorne should be doing the games. He's outstanding! 2nd only to Duane Kuiper and Mike Krukow who are simply the best TV/Radio announcers in baseball.

Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« Reply #269 on: May 03, 2015, 06:21:13 PM »
They're going up against NBA and Stanley Cup playoffs, on a jam-packed sports weekend. I share your disgust but they have to go with a game they think they can sell. I watch as little ESPN as possible. All a baseball fan needs these days is MLB.tv.