Listened through it tonight. Really got that classic Coast vibe listening to the Hoagler prattle. You've gotta get him back on, Bateman.
Thanks, that is high praise. What it comes down to is, I want to produce a show I'd want to listen to. Capturing that Dreamland vibe is what I've been going for, specifically.
That's the key isn't it? I actually listened right up to the end of it on the podcast, and thought Steve did a noble job in trying to get a word in edgeways and secondly not pandering to Hoaxlands fanciful dalliances with hallucinogenics. He won't put detail into it because he hasn't the foundations. He keeps banging on about 'looking at the data'...Conveniently overlooking the fact that the 'data' comes from him, and a few such as himself. He made great play in the Indian Lunar probe that discovered water ice, but made no mention that after mapping 97% of the Moon's surface it didn't discover the glass structures allegedly found but memory wiped from Apollo astronauts. He must have forgotten to mention that.
So yeah, good effort with him Steve,and although you clearly didn't take too much of what he was saying seriously, you couldn't (predictably) get him to cite independent research. But he's a wily guy; and speaks so fast he's already on the next three topics before you get chance to get the question in..You tried to get him back onto blackbirds dying, and although he heard you, he went back to something else, because he obviously didn't want to go anywhere other than his make believe torsion field weapon crap.
What aggravated me was that he kept saying he had documentation to back up "everything" he said, but when I asked for documentation for something or other, he said "you want an authority figure to tell you it's true!" ...Can't have it both ways, Richard.
And your highlighted point above is dead on.
Overall great interview, I'm consistently impressed with the show!
Hoagland has the same skill as Alex Jones, keep on pumping out information as quickly as possible to overwhelm the host and audience into just accepting what you have to say. Steve did a great job keeping the show moving along and got some stuff out of Hoagland I haven't really heard him go off on before, the breakaway society ideas. It did seem like when he realized he wasn't making much progress on convincing the host of the Mars stuff he switched gears abruptly which was interesting.
I also enjoyed the new intro and the overall mood of the show. As others have said, it evokes classic Coast at it's best. Good job as always.
Thanks, and again, highlighted point is dead on.
"Intermediate" level-difficulty interviewee aside, he's a good natured guy, and I'm glad I got to talk to him.