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« Reply #79260 on: April 18, 2017, 03:20:08 AM »

Fermi paradox. How would aliens consider there can be intelligent life on Earth when the aliens would pick up sNoory on radio waves

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« Reply #79261 on: April 18, 2017, 03:20:18 AM »
What bugs me is:

1) Just because scientists are investigating it, and have a working theory, it does not mean they can explain the mind-boggling nature of everything past and present in the universe. 

2) There are so many other interesting topics that would be neat to learn more about, that astronomers actually have a pretty good understanding of .. say the life cycle of stars, the amazing variety of planets recently discovered, the way relativity works in practice, how quantum physics explains so much of our material world, etc.

3) He never asks about actual ongoing space missions, that would require about a half hour of browsing nasa.gov.  What's Cassini up to?  Are the Mars rovers still going?  Where's New Horizons?  How far has Voyager made it?

Right.   I understand and agree with you.  However, Noory only has so much space in his index card file. :-X

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« Reply #79262 on: April 18, 2017, 03:20:57 AM »
He needs to transition on to discussing paradox.  Which is a lot more mysterious than asking what came before.  Because, i hate to pop his bubble but what came before that, and that, and that back and back and backward in time.  You just cant fixate on what came before, unless you also then focus on what precdeded it, and the previous it, etc...

Our minds are limited.

Good points.  Sometimes I think our struggle to understand such things is like if we explained calculus to a cat.  Might be a really smart cat even, but they're not gonna get past basic arithmetic.   ;)


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« Reply #79263 on: April 18, 2017, 03:22:08 AM »
Right.   I understand and agree with you.  However, Noory only has so much space in his index card file. :-X

lol, such a limitation, even in a universe this big!

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« Reply #79264 on: April 18, 2017, 03:23:25 AM »
Fermi paradox. How would aliens consider there can be intelligent life on Earth when the aliens would pick up sNoory on radio waves

omg you may have just solved it ... they heard this show and went into hiding.

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« Reply #79265 on: April 18, 2017, 03:23:36 AM »
Fermi paradox. How would aliens consider there can be intelligent life on Earth when the aliens would pick up sNoory on radio waves

If I was an alien, I'd think about checking back in another million years.  OK, maybe that's an exaggeration.  Let's say maybe checking back in a thousand.

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« Reply #79266 on: April 18, 2017, 03:26:50 AM »
What bugs me is:

1) Just because scientists are investigating it, and have a working theory, it does not mean they can explain the mind-boggling nature of everything past and present in the universe. 

2) There are so many other interesting topics that would be neat to learn more about, that astronomers actually have a pretty good understanding of .. say the life cycle of stars, the amazing variety of planets recently discovered, the way relativity works in practice, how quantum physics explains so much of our material world, etc.

3) He never asks about actual ongoing space missions, that would require about a half hour of browsing nasa.gov.  What's Cassini up to?  Are the Mars rovers still going?  Where's New Horizons?  How far has Voyager made it?

Yep, good points, zeeb. We can always hope the callers ask some interesting questions. Fortunately, Cox is pretty animated and interesting, making compelling questions less critical.

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« Reply #79267 on: April 18, 2017, 03:30:16 AM »
If I was an alien, I'd think about checking back in another million years.  OK, maybe that's an exaggeration.  Let's say maybe checking back in a thousand.

They would hear Dexter Monterrey or whatever his reincarnated name is supposed to be and go for the full million.

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« Reply #79268 on: April 18, 2017, 03:30:52 AM »
Yep, good points, zeeb. We can always hope the callers ask some interesting questions. Fortunately, Cox is pretty animated and interesting, making compelling questions less critical.

Yes, I agree even with my predisposition to not like the guy, I am enjoying Cox.  He doesn't seem to be as close-minded as some other scientists.

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« Reply #79269 on: April 18, 2017, 03:31:29 AM »
Yep, good points, zeeb. We can always hope the callers ask some interesting questions. Fortunately, Cox is pretty animated and interesting, making compelling questions less critical.

Hey Zen, yep the best guests are the ones that sidestep the worst questions and just do mini-monologues, LMH-style.   :D

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« Reply #79270 on: April 18, 2017, 03:32:02 AM »
I had to force myself to stop writing 'favourite'.  It just looks better, but browser doesn't like it.  A little U.S.-centric, this spell-checker is.

Sounds like one of those anti-Limey spell-checkers.

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« Reply #79271 on: April 18, 2017, 03:32:39 AM »
They would hear Dexter Monterrey or whatever his reincarnated name is supposed to be and go for the full million.

I'd probably have to cross off the Earth as a lost cause then. :-[ :P

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« Reply #79272 on: April 18, 2017, 03:34:24 AM »
Yes, I agree even with my predisposition to not like the guy, I am enjoying Cox.  He doesn't seem to be as close-minded as some other scientists.

I really like his idea of science being a humble pursuit, and his quotes from Sagan and Feynman which speak to that view. 

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« Reply #79273 on: April 18, 2017, 03:34:34 AM »
Fermi paradox. How would aliens consider there can be intelligent life on Earth when the aliens would pick up sNoory on radio waves

Could work to our advantage tho. When they come to conquer Earth, they may vastly underestimate us.

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« Reply #79274 on: April 18, 2017, 03:36:38 AM »
Could work to our advantage tho. When they come to conquer Earth, they may vastly underestimate us.

"Take us to your Noory!"

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« Reply #79275 on: April 18, 2017, 03:47:31 AM »
''Dexter gets it''

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« Reply #79276 on: April 18, 2017, 03:47:52 AM »
"Take us to your Noory!"

Lol, all your Noorys are belong to us!

Whatever happened to Baghdad Bob anyway? Does he have a show now?

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« Reply #79277 on: April 18, 2017, 03:55:00 AM »
I think this is the experiment that was mentioned.  I've never heard of this before, would have loved to hear more about it.  As usual George asked no follow-up to it.  Hoagie probably could have done a whole show just on this.

The Schiehallion experiment was an 18th-century experiment to determine the mean density of the Earth. Funded by a grant from the Royal Society, it was conducted in the summer of 1774 around the Scottish mountain of Schiehallion, Perthshire. The experiment involved measuring the tiny deflection of a pendulum due to the gravitational attraction of a nearby mountain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiehallion_experiment


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« Reply #79278 on: April 18, 2017, 03:58:36 AM »
Lol, all your Noorys are belong to us!

Whatever happened to Baghdad Bob anyway? Does he have a show now?

LOL. He moved to the United Arab Emirates and may be dead.  He was apparently very ill in 2014 and no one has heard anything since.  He cooperated with the US and remained free.


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« Reply #79279 on: April 18, 2017, 03:59:43 AM »
I think this is the experiment that was mentioned.  I've never heard of this before, would have loved to hear more about it.  As usual George asked no follow-up to it.  Hoagie probably could have done a whole show just on this.

The Schiehallion experiment was an 18th-century experiment to determine the mean density of the Earth. Funded by a grant from the Royal Society, it was conducted in the summer of 1774 around the Scottish mountain of Schiehallion, Perthshire. The experiment involved measuring the tiny deflection of a pendulum due to the gravitational attraction of a nearby mountain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiehallion_experiment

Yeah, I noticed that. Noory tries not to let anybody get onto anything too particularly interesting.

Well I actually enjoyed the show. Nice mix of kooky and science.

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« Reply #79280 on: April 18, 2017, 04:01:53 AM »
LOL. He moved to the United Arab Emirates and may be dead.  He was apparently very ill in 2014 and no one has heard anything since.  He cooperated with the US and remained free.



Bob, along with Colin Powell, was an entertaining part of that war.

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« Reply #79281 on: April 18, 2017, 04:02:08 AM »
I missed the news so I'm going to listen until fifteen after.

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« Reply #79282 on: April 18, 2017, 04:05:26 AM »
I missed the news so I'm going to listen until fifteen after.

I get my news from Noory and Alex Jones too.  ;D

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« Reply #79283 on: April 18, 2017, 04:05:34 AM »
Bob, along with Colin Powell, was an entertaining part of that war.

Yes he was.   If he's gone then may he RIP.  If not, I wish him well.

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« Reply #79284 on: April 18, 2017, 04:07:42 AM »

Thanks to the Coast caller who gave me a good bellylaugh.  Jorch manages to get an intelligent guest, I presume he's a physicist/astronomer or science journalist, first he's got to run the gauntlet of Jorch's usual 'what was before the Big Bang? what is it expanding into? what shape is it?' questions then Jorch unleashes the stupidity of his listeners on the guest.  'What about rainbows? What makes a rainbow?' LOL WTF

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« Reply #79285 on: April 18, 2017, 04:17:10 AM »
I get my news from Noory and Alex Jones too.  ;D
 

LOL. Only listen to the worst in the biz.  I'll see y'all later.  Had a great time.

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« Reply #79286 on: April 18, 2017, 06:18:41 AM »
........ Jorch manages to get an intelligent guest, I presume he's a physicist/astronomer or science journalist, first he's got to run the gauntlet of Jorch's usual 'what was before the Big Bang? what is it expanding into? what shape is it?' questions then Jorch unleashes the stupidity of his listeners on the guest.  'What about rainbows? What makes a rainbow?' LOL WTF

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Cox_(physicist)

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« Reply #79287 on: April 18, 2017, 07:01:47 AM »
An immigrant Limey struggling under the bondage of US English Autocorrect writes:
What really annoys me about Noory and the Big Bang is not that he asks about it: that's always valid (though everyone should remember that the term was first applied sarcastically to describe this model of the origins of the universe). What's annoying is that absolutely nothing moves forward in his head as a result. In other words, there is no genuine intellectual curiosity in his questioning: he just trots out the same stupid question for the sake of it and because he's too stupid and lazy to frame a more valid objection than 'I just don't get it', with the accompanying arrogance that suggests the whole of scientific enquiry should grind to a halt because the great George Noory doesn't 'get it'.
He recently had Neil deGrasse Tyson explain all this to him at some length, and now Brian Cox does the same. The really annoying thing is that absolutely nothing in Little Georgie's grey matter will move forward and next time he has a scientist of this caliber on the show he will trot out exactly the same line.
And whether CERN can see ghosts or not does not alter the mind-bending reality of what it has achieved in its young life, and whenever CERN is discussed, Americans should hang their heads in shame, observe a minute's silence and lower flags to half-mast or, in US English, -staff. It should have been here, in Texas, bigger and better than it is. That it didn't was because lawmakers (mainly Republicans) in Congress blocked it on the grounds of wasting money and 'playing God'. Alongside the invasion of Iraq, that represents the single worst decision in modern American history. America's philistinism is Europe's triumph, I'm afraid.

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« Reply #79288 on: April 18, 2017, 08:52:04 AM »
An immigrant Limey struggling under the bondage of US English Autocorrect writes:
What really annoys me about Noory and the Big Bang is not that he asks about it: that's always valid (though everyone should remember that the term was first applied sarcastically to describe this model of the origins of the universe). What's annoying is that absolutely nothing moves forward in his head as a result. In other words, there is no genuine intellectual curiosity in his questioning: he just trots out the same stupid question for the sake of it and because he's too stupid and lazy to frame a more valid objection than 'I just don't get it', with the accompanying arrogance that suggests the whole of scientific enquiry should grind to a halt because the great George Noory doesn't 'get it'.
He recently had Neil deGrasse Tyson explain all this to him at some length, and now Brian Cox does the same. The really annoying thing is that absolutely nothing in Little Georgie's grey matter will move forward and next time he has a scientist of this caliber on the show he will trot out exactly the same line.
And whether CERN can see ghosts or not does not alter the mind-bending reality of what it has achieved in its young life, and whenever CERN is discussed, Americans should hang their heads in shame, observe a minute's silence and lower flags to half-mast or, in US English, -staff. It should have been here, in Texas, bigger and better than it is. That it didn't was because lawmakers (mainly Republicans) in Congress blocked it on the grounds of wasting money and 'playing God'. Alongside the invasion of Iraq, that represents the single worst decision in modern American history. America's philistinism is Europe's triumph, I'm afraid.

This article doesn't mention the issue, but I remember one of the key technical hurdles and risks that could never be properly addressed by the proponents was the shear magnitude of the amount of magnets required by the SSC. I can remember that the world did not have enough manufacturing capacity for the electromagnets required for the 52 mile SSC.

I would have liked to have had it completed, but I am not sure it ever could have been completed for anything near the original budget and schedule. Why would this have been the one government megaproject that came in on budget and on schedule?

I distinctly remember the engineers at JSC doubting that it could ever be completed simply because the magnets could not be built in any reasonable timeframe.

The was one of the biggest eminent domain cases in Texas history. Those that were the proponents of eminent domain last century for the SSC will surely support its use in building the border wall. If not support, then surely acknowledgement that it is legal. 

http://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/how-texas-lost-the-worlds-largest-super-collider/

This is a decent article. It describes how the project had escalated to twice the original estimate by the time it was cancelled.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-supercollider-that-never-was/

Edit: here is a GAO report that does acknowledge the issue with the magnets and how they still had not built and tested one by the time of the project's cancellation in 1992.

http://www.gao.gov/assets/220/213922.pdf

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« Reply #79289 on: April 18, 2017, 09:03:45 AM »
... Alongside the invasion of Iraq, that represents the single worst decision in modern American history. America's philistinism is Europe's triumph, I'm afraid.

As long as it was built, and built in the democratic West, what difference does it make really?  There are plenty of worse decisions than not building it in Texas, starting with the elections of Clinton, Bush II, Obama, and Trump.