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effect of recent anmts
« on: November 28, 2015, 07:07:38 PM »
I notice as I get old things (especially in fiction & drama) unexpectedly arouse my emotions.  I don't remember having gotten this way about other broadcasters who've faced adversity, but the threats to Art Bell that he's disclosed recently have gotten me down.  Sad & anxious; hurt.  Not angry, though, probably because I think whoever's after him is just a nut who's suffering too.  I didn't get that way about an incident Mr. Bell had in the 1990s.  I didn't even get that way about the sudden death of his wife, nor his remarriage; I just felt ordinary sympathy about those things.  It could be just because it's happening at a time when I'm sad & anxious about my own life (housing situation, basically $), but it gives me the impression of being about him in a way that affects me, just as an audience member.

If Art's problem is similarly caused by someone taking something unjustifiably personally, it seems the vibes we send back could be a counterweight to his problem.  Unfortunately it doesn't feel that way.  I'm glad he's cheerier than I am.

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2015, 08:32:16 PM »
Part of the problem is that I'm generalizing it in my mind.  Lately the vast majority of my entertainment's been audio -- radio but more so stream.  When I'm thinking of someone threatening deadly force to keep Art Bell off the air, to some degree I'm thinking meanwhile about a threat to everybody else I listen to too.

It's like I felt several years ago when, in a stunt to raise money for WFMU, the waterboarding victim, Andy Breckman, cursed, and not during safe harbor.  Station mgr. & co-host Ken Freedman had left nobody at the dump button when he went out on the fire escape to catch the action w his microphone.  Ken then undertook ritual punishment by suspending himself for 2 weeks.  I felt so sad, so bad for them, subjecting themselves to torture to raise $, then propitiating the FCC gods.  Andy was obviously truly pained, and then so was Ken.  But that was momentary, this thing with Art is unresolved.

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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2015, 10:47:01 PM »


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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2015, 10:58:49 PM »
I just Googled "death threats" and "radio personality", and got an interesting (and depressing) mix of stories -- https://www.google.com/search?as_q=%22radio+personality%22&as_epq=death+threats&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&as_filetype=&as_rights=

I guess everybody else had to much turkey, so I will say what needs to be said.

Robert, you creep me the fuck out. Seriously.

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2015, 11:02:55 PM »
I guess everybody else had to much turkey, so I will say what needs to be said.

Robert, you creep me the fuck out. Seriously.

Lol has he posted anything else creepy?

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2015, 11:09:32 PM »
Lol has he posted anything else creepy?

Well you could start with this...

Reminds me of my family.  The last decade of his life, my father was married to a foreigner who was my younger sister's age, ~40 yrs. younger than Daddy.  (Mother'd been considerably younger than him too.)  It bothered him when I was interested in a particular woman considerably older than myself, thought I should go for younger women.  However, he was really outraged when I told him I was attracted to children.  I'm not a pedophile in the sexy way, but ever since I was a child, I had more affection for babies & the young than most boys seem to.  Daddy couldn't seem to think you could legitimately love non-family without wanting to fuck, so he also thought I should break up w a particular woman who wanted to stay friends without fucking.  She's still my closest friend.

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2015, 11:20:23 PM »
Well you could start with this...

For some reason i thought coffeman wrote that, i do remember it now lol.

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2015, 11:35:02 PM »
Casio troll

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2015, 11:36:45 PM »
Sorry about the creep factor, I just lay out my feelings, don't want to make you feel bad too.  Would you like it better if I just summarized it as:

Children are adorable by default (if they weren't, we'd kill & eat them for being generally obnoxious); all adult women regardless of age hold some attraction whether it's sexy or not; and it grieves me when someone whose performance I come to rely on is under threat.  Art Bell & various other radio voices come to have a soothing effect on me, just by being reliable & good at what they do.  Probably being on at (or past) bedtime magnifies the effect a bit, the hypnogogic state being a time of susceptibility to influence & suggestion.

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2015, 11:51:28 PM »
Sorry about the creep factor, I just lay out my feelings, don't want to make you feel bad too.  Would you like it better if I just summarized it as:

Children are adorable by default (if they weren't, we'd kill & eat them for being generally obnoxious); all adult women regardless of age hold some attraction whether it's sexy or not; and it grieves me when someone whose performance I come to rely on is under threat.  Art Bell & various other radio voices come to have a soothing effect on me, just by being reliable & good at what they do.  Probably being on at (or past) bedtime magnifies the effect a bit, the hypnogogic state being a time of susceptibility to influence & suggestion.

Your a cannibal now? ??? ???

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2015, 01:30:12 AM »
Your a cannibal now? ??? ???
No, just saying this is a mystery that needs to be explained: Considering that children are a liability, what acc'ts for their survival?  Some types of animals have instincts -- complex non-learned behaviors -- that include caring for their young.  Instincts don't seem to exist in humans.  However, we do have certain non-learned preferences -- likes & dislikes -- among which is that children appear sooooo cute to us.  This liking is broad enough to spill over onto those who are merely child-like, so humans keep pets too.

Re: Effects of Life on Robert
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2015, 01:35:13 AM »
No, just saying this is a mystery that needs to be explained: Considering that children are a liability, what acc'ts for their survival?  Some types of animals have instincts -- complex non-learned behaviors -- that include caring for their young.  Instincts don't seem to exist in humans.  However, we do have certain non-learned preferences -- likes & dislikes -- among which is that children appear sooooo cute to us.  This liking is broad enough to spill over onto those who are merely child-like, so humans keep pets too.
You soooo need a blog. Surely you write a lot? Someplace far away from here where it is safe.

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2015, 01:40:19 AM »
No, just saying this is a mystery that needs to be explained: Considering that children are a liability, what acc'ts for their survival?  Some types of animals have instincts -- complex non-learned behaviors -- that include caring for their young.  Instincts don't seem to exist in humans.  However, we do have certain non-learned preferences -- likes & dislikes -- among which is that children appear sooooo cute to us.  This liking is broad enough to spill over onto those who are merely child-like, so humans keep pets too.

This guy agrees with you.

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2015, 01:46:14 AM »
Sorry about the creep factor, I just lay out my feelings, don't want to make you feel bad too.  Would you like it better if I just summarized it as:

Children are adorable by default (if they weren't, we'd kill & eat them for being generally obnoxious); all adult women regardless of age hold some attraction whether it's sexy or not; and it grieves me when someone whose performance I come to rely on is under threat.  Art Bell & various other radio voices come to have a soothing effect on me, just by being reliable & good at what they do.  Probably being on at (or past) bedtime magnifies the effect a bit, the hypnogogic state being a time of susceptibility to influence & suggestion.

But that summarization leaves out:
A discourse about how people mix up affection w sexuality, as well as general attraction to the young.

I actually toned down the trolling, because I could've written the full statement, that Daddy was really outraged when I told him I was attracted to children, dogs & cats

Re: Effects of Life (or at least media) on Robert
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2015, 02:03:11 AM »
You soooo need a blog. Surely you write a lot? Someplace far away from here where it is safe.
Not a blog, but it is sort of blog formatted: http://users.bestweb.net/~robgood/teach .  Here in another thread I just made fun of derivative content (discussions of discussions of Art Bell's discussions), yet I've done the same thing with Lost.  However, it's largely personal in that I'm friends w that show's creator, and he filled it with content that I'd previously discussed with him.  The plot of Lost makes no sense if you take it at face value, but if you take it as a caper that can be solved by inferring things that haven't been shown to you, then it makes sense.  They did lay on some really powerful clues, including an extremely explicit one as the slogan of season 2: "They're NOT the survivors; they thought they were."

Basically what you have to do is not assume the common dramatic convention that says that when you're shown what appears to be the same person in different scenes, it is the same person.  Also you have to throw away the convention that says that in a mystery story, the mystery will be explained non-cryptically by (usually at) the end of the story.  And if you don't have background knowledge of some of A.C. Doyle's less-known stories and a 45 yrs. old British TV series called Department S, then the chances of these details occurring to you would be very slight.  Other works it'd be helpful to know as background are Watchmen, Illuminatus!, The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, Hamlet, and The Life And Loves of a She-Devil.  When you recognize scenes from Lost from its source material, or when you realize what's really going on on Lost and what its characters really mean by certain things, if you don't bust out laughing then you're humor-impaired.

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2015, 02:04:34 AM »
But that summarization leaves out:
Well, yeah, because those things seemed to bother you.

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2015, 12:08:31 PM »
I'm feeling better about the affair since Mr. Bell responded in the "Art Bell" thread.  I don't know why, when the sympathy should flow from us to him, but in this case I feel a little of it coming the other way.

Seems not many are interested in discussing the events as its own thread, which I thought was deserved, rather than that ridiculously long catch-all thread from long ago.

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2015, 03:50:13 PM »
I'm feeling better about the affair since Mr. Bell responded in the "Art Bell" thread.  I don't know why, when the sympathy should flow from us to him, but in this case I feel a little of it coming the other way.
I think it's because from this end we feel helpless, but from his end he might actually be able to do something about it, which feels better.

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2015, 07:11:12 PM »
When he announced doing MITD, I was paranoid about something happening to him which would prevent the show.  Every time I hear about something or somebody trying to harm him and his family, it makes me sad and angry that someone would want to take him out- take out his physical body, take out his show.. I don't know which exactly, but it's like WTF did this guy do to you??  I don't want to call anyone out, but REALLY?? There is only ONE Art Bell.   

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2015, 06:47:29 AM »
I'm sure Art would love to figure out who is shooting at him/his house, but why does it keep happening?  This is insane.

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2015, 08:46:53 AM »
Now I'm wondering whether he's been spooked from going into his shack to fire up his ham rig too.  Is it only MITD that's affected, or is someone trying to keep him off the air generally?

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2015, 11:37:55 AM »
What is an "anmts"?

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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2015, 11:59:57 AM »
What is an "anmts"?
Robert doesn't know how to spell announcements.

Re: effect of recent anmts
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2015, 03:03:05 PM »
Robert doesn't know how to spell announcements.
I tend to abbr. a lot online, using radio abbrs. even in non-radio settings.  "anmt" would be a common way to write "announcement" (which would be used for instance for a commercial) in a broadcast log or DXer's log of reception.  Plus I use medical abbrs. & so forth too.  It's a way of making my long posts seem not as long.

Some people are bothered by my not automatically capitalizing initial letters in subject lines, analogizing them to chapter titles in print.