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I loathe Jimmy Church The Man Who Fell In Love With His Own Voice. Another radio industry bottom feeder saved from abject poverty by Coast2Coast. Looks like a guy who did weekend overnight shifts on many rock radio stations for minimum wage pay.


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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 21, 2017, 06:27:30 AM »

Snorry Jorch: Bob do you notice people acting strange or weird? Do you think the coming of Planet X has anything to do with it?

Bob the Guest: Eh...... I don't travel much these days so I don't meet oddballs like you're talking about.

Snorry Jorch: People are acting strange and weird recently though I notice. I'm going to see if people are noticing the same when we go to open lines.

Recently? You've been making this stupid baseless observation for like a decade George and because you lack even the smallest crumb of self-awareness you may not even be aware how ridiculous you sound.


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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 20, 2017, 07:31:42 AM »
CronkitesGhost,

You have presented, through your research and thoughtful consideration, what Sondra London could not: a truly credible and fascinating explanation of why these siblings may have concocted such outrageous tales of abuse and serial murder. 

This harkens back to the "Satanic Panic" of the 1980s, and a follow-up to same would be an excellent show idea for late-night radio.

Parenthetically,  market research has shown that the largest single demographic for lurid, true crime books--is middle-aged women.

I'll look for the video you mentioned. 
Great posts.

yeah on Google i found a thread on a forum where the thread starter was looking for more information about this case and somebody replied that it sounded similar to that Satanic cult urban legend. The difference with Steven and Dianne Briggs is that they had no contact with psychologist/hypnotherapist/clergy etc who usually are found to have been responsible for people recovering these sensational memories.

I still haven't watched the British documentary but I understand that in it police took their stories very seriously and many of the crime scenes the siblings described were investigated. And sometimes the siblings gave them information that checked out, like one location the police checked out, Steven noted that there was a well nearby when the murder there happened, and that turned out to be true, there had been a well on the property but since destroyed. Of course this could have been a property they had known in childhood. They went to the library to search old newspapers for articles reporting children/adults who disappeared, then directed the cops to the locations where they believe the missing person was murdered. There are other brothers and sisters in the family, none wanted to be part of the documentary but they didn't say Steven and Dianne are nuts, they said they just don't know, one sister said it wouldn't surprise her if their father had killed. The old man is part of the documentary, he was still alive at the time.

A lot of MK Ultrawork was done in Canada at McGill University's psych department and there were many victims who sued the Canadian government and I think won their cases. One of the victims became rather famous and appeared on TV programs, radio etc. Steven either met the woman in person or corresponded with her and according to her the details he gave her contained things that the only way anybody would know is if they were there. Um .... he could very well have researched everything he could find and been able to fool this woman. From reading what I could Steven is a very sad story himself, this has consumed him for many years and it's taken a toll on his mental and physical health. I truly think he believes it all, once committed to the story, it is eating him up alive that he can't prove it.

Truly bizarre case. It would make the basis of a good mystery thriller movie where the siblings claims are proven to be true.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 18, 2017, 06:07:08 AM »
I loved your vivid account of Guest No. 2's story there; but you did leave off the most horrible, poignantly compelling part; when the Lithuanian-Nazi-Collaborating-Serial-Killing-Army-Cook Dad wrested his little girl's beloved STEIFF TEDDY BEAR from her arms, STABBED a hot poker into its left eye, RIPPED off its limbs, then TOSSED the mangled Teddy into the flames of the campfire, all to terrorize 6-year old Dianne with thoughts of what horrors SHE might face, if she dared to TALK about what she knew, and what she saw.

lol she was quite dramatic, reminds me of every high school drama teacher I've ever encountered. odd people are attracted to odd people, if not for her background as a writer I think Sondra would be one of those women who correspond and fall in love with killers on death row. she said a guy she dated in college became an infamous serial killer.

The story intrigued me and i'm still thinking about it all tonight, could some of the story be true I wondered and why would a brother and sister fabricate such a grotesque bizarre story about their father and childhood? To me that is more bizarre then the story because I know the stories are untrue or at least very very far from the whole truth. I went back to Amazon and read what I could of the book, the author is actually a pretty good writer, and she wrote a long Afterword section because she was aware that readers would be skeptical and probably conclude the siblings were mentally ill in some way so she set about defending them and their story with the typical apologetics used to defend paranormal, pseudoscience, conspiracy theorists, anybody who rational people write off as kooks. She gives it a pretty good try and it did for me anyway give me some ideas about Steven and Dianne. When she wrote this book she was unaware that the BBC actually did a documentary titled Our Father The Serial Killer with the full cooperation of the siblings in 2003, the film crew spent months with them. The producer/director of the film contacted Sondra London when he found out Dianne had written a memoir with Sondra's help. He is sympathetic to them, he was saddened that both siblings still are hanging on to it. Unlike Sondra London the film makers actually did research, they tried to find any evidence that would support their claims, and we are talking about DOZENS of murders they claim to have witnessed their father commit. They found absolutely nothing. Sondra London left important information out when she was on Coast. These stories came out when Steven and Dianne in their 40s and dealing with their dying mother and now elderly infirm father who to them was a monster. There is a much younger brother, I think mentally handicapped who the father molested and they are struggling with the decision of what to do with the father and brother once the mother passed away. So the story is that during this stressful period memories, these wild stories, emerge from Steven in great detail. He shares them with Dianne and the same memories come flooding back to her. Of course, this seems pretty implausible. But we do know that abused and sexually molested children do repress memories and fall victim to major mental disorders usually later in age.

I can see siblings who grew up in an extremely dysfunctional and abusive household, in the situation they found themselves back in their childhood home at 40 plus years old, confronting their past which stirs long repressed memories to emerge, false memories included. The human brain/mind is incredible that way. Even normal people will construct or re-construct events from memory that are filled with errors or things that never happened. I just don't understand how bizarre and outlandish their stories are and detailed. If you have an abusive father, you see him as a sadistic monster, that he's Eastern European, emigrating during WWII, I can see a kid imagining that he must have been working with the Nazis.
But this guy doesn't stop there, he invents the most fantastical stories one can about anybody, he creates one of the vilest human beings ever to live, an animal who butchers little kids by the dozens claiming he and sis witnessed them. Now that I'm playing amateur psychiatrist it starts making sense, Steven wants the world to know how bad their father was so let's make him into the uncontested worst human being ever.  He and his sister are helpless victims, it's not enough to be the victim of an abusive father, so he invents the bizarre story that he and his sister became victims of the government's top secret mind control program, MK Ultra. He and his sister are obviously suffering from some serious mental disorder, they aren't con artists, not of the usual variety anyway.

I need to watch the documentary, it's on You Tube.



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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 17, 2017, 06:31:15 AM »

lol did any of you listen to Dave whatever his name is tonight? His theme tonight was True Crime - his first guest was a researcher who claims that Jack the Ripper was also America's first serial killer. I barely listened to his nonsense as I was also chatting with friends online at the time.

But the second guest, an older woman named Sondra London, got more of my attention. He presented her as a respected renowned journalist/researcher that has been writing about serial killers for 20 years. I checked her out on Amazon and she did write a jailhouse memoir with a real serial killer in 1996. So to me she seemed somewhat legit and I do enjoy true crime stories. Dave said Sondra has a bizarre story, a true story, and it's told in a book Sondra has written titled Good Little Soldiers. Dave gets off to weird start with Sondra, I came in a few minutes late to it and thought maybe she was a caller because she actually sounds like many of the older female open phone callers, at times she seems confused by Dave's penetrating questions or unsure why she is even on the show. Dave finally gets around to getting her to tell this bizarre story. The book is a memoir of a woman named Dianne now 62 years old growing up with her older brother Steven as witnesses and victims of their sadistic serial killer father, Silvestra, a Lithuanian who emigrated to the US during WWII.  The book is written from the point of view of 6 year old Dianne.  At this point even with the author sounding a tad suspect it sounded promising to me. Dave has to keep her on topic so we can hear the story because she does seem befuddled. I begin to lose faith when Sondra tells us about the father's background and how he got to this country.  Silvestra it turns out was a Nazi collaborator who worked in a death camp and took part in mass killings of presumably Jews, he told the story to his young children how he threw the bodies into a pit and that many were still alive so he'd jump into the pit and slit the throats of those still breathing. Not long before describing this event she had mentioned that Silvestra came to the US in 1929 so when I hear this WWII story of course alarm bells go off and I begin to realize we're dealing with another typical Coast guest. A caller later on in the show called her out on this impossible chronology but he thought she said 1939, I remember 1929, whatever, even if she said 1939 the Germans didn't move into Lithuania until 1941. Sondra being informed of this is somewhat embarrassed but not as much as she should be, allows that the caller might very well be right but that's the story Dianne told her and she will have to some research. Yes it's always best to do your research a year after the publishing of a book. So now I know that this entire 'true crime horror' story comes from one person, Dianne, and the co-author has done absolutely no research to determine if this story in whole or part has any basis in reality.  The story continues on and it's got more holes than a rack of Tim Horton's donuts. Silvestra is recruited out of this Nazi death camp by the Allies, according to Sondra because he has dual citizenship and has the right stuff to be a 'double agent' lol none of it makes any real sense. I read a blurb about this book on Amazon and the book suggests is that Silvestra was part of Operation Paper Clip, which of course is a popular meme Coast's conspiracy guests latch onto. So anyway Silvestra is brought to America where he is employed at an Army base as a cook, he marries and has these two children. When Dad isn't doing his secret agent work or being a cook at the army base he finds time to indulge his hobby of being a serial killer, many of his victims, the number of which Sondra doesn't say, are children, tortured and killed in various ways. Silvestra is an involved dad, pretty rare for the 50s and 60s, he takes his children with him on his killing sprees. Dianne and Stephen of course are traumatized by what they witness, who wouldn't be. They attend a Catholic school and one day little Dianne can't hold in the horror any longer and confides to a nun teacher that her father is a serial killer and that she has seen it with her own eyes. The nun gets angry with Dianne for telling such disrespectful lies but Dianne is brave and tells the nun that Stephen has seen it too. This was my favorite part of the interview because Sondra actually acts it out, she becomes Dianne, it was like you were right there in the room with little Dianne begging for help. The exasperated nun takes Dianne to the priest in charge of the school and Stephen is called in as well, he corroborates Dianne's story. And nothing is done, no investigation, no police but word does get back to the serial killer dad that his children had attempted to snitch on him. He takes them out to the woods in the middle of the night, he terrorizes them, burning Dianne with a hot poker, and leaving them in the woods. They make it home the next day battered burned and bruised but remarkably the mother doesn't notice they've been missing and now here they are looking like escapees from a real death camp and nothing is done. Oh, I forgot, as if having a serial killer dad who makes you watch him torturing and killing isn't enough of a cross for a child to bear Dianne and Stephen are enlisted by their parents into the MK Ultra program where they are subjected to all sorts of ghastly mind control and drug experiments.

Dave who no doubt booked this guest and thought it was a good idea is now clearly doubting the entire story and just wants to get to the end of the hour.  He doesn't even bother asking if this woman Dianne who has witnessed multiple murders through her childhood has ever contacted the police in the locales where these murders happened as there must be many unsolved cold cases of children and adult who went missing.

Shameless, laughable yes but still shameless how a show operates this way, even a show that revolves around the paranormal and conspiracy theories has to have some standards. Hmmm ... maybe not  ;D

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 08, 2017, 05:25:17 AM »
I have anxiety disorder, it flares up out of the blue. So tonight I watched the NFL game and then went to bed early cuz I was feeling shitty, put John Batchelor on, I was in and out of sleep and I was feeling anxious, so i gave up on sleeping and just laid there staring at the ceiling and realized Jorch was on now, as soon as I heard it was the snake oil peddling veterinarian my heart started pounding and my anxiety turned to rage.

'Here We Go Again' guy, GET THESE TWO MUTHERFUCKIN' CONMEN OFF THE PUBLIC AIRWAVES AND IN JAIL!!! FTC and FCC need to take them down.

From what I can see talk radio is now almost fully supported by medical snakeoil fraudsters, the same sponsors are on every major talk radio show, it's disgusting because they are spending a fortune advertising their garbage on these shows because they know the audience for talk radio is older, many in poor health and lonely, the perfect marks. Jorch the scumbag is the worst though because he puts them on his show under the guise they are just guests when we know it's a big time paid deal and Jorch and Premier don't disclose it to their loyal aud ....... victims.


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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 03, 2017, 11:02:15 AM »
this forum has had a bad influence on me, i used to just mock Jorch to myself but I really had no anger, Coast amused me. I'm not even sure how I found this forum, a Google search I guess for something or other Coast related. since I've been reading and posting on this board I have grown to HATE the sleazy idiot. There's nothing else to listen to live overnight, tried Red Eye Radio and it's awful, two middle aged conservatives tediously discussing politics.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 02, 2017, 03:33:10 AM »

Why the fascination with Jack the Ripper - we've had many many serial killers since that get mostly forgotten pretty fast. The nickname is part of it, and Victorian England for whatever reason intrigues people more than many other eras. Oh and he killed prostitutes, sex angle always helps.


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Honestly what do you think Hoagland declared on his tax form for income in 2016? My guess would be less than $20K possibly less than $10K.

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OMFG RCH is so full of himself!  He mentioned he was on the "Den of Lore" podcast and so I downloaded it, and after not being on for 20 minutes because of his own technical difficulties, he goes on and spends several minutes telling the host that the host is "over-modulated" even though his sound is perfectly fine.  And reminded the host during his bio that he was science advisor to Cronkite.

RCH later plays teacher and asks the host if he knows what astrocartography is.  Host answers correctly.  RCH says he's wrong and proceeds to give the bullshit astrological definition.

And later, he tried to argue that the EM drive works on pyramid power (hyperdimensional torsion field physics) because a cone is just a pyramid without the side corners.  Yes, he just argued that cone = pyramid.

I'm listening in spurts as I work on other stuff, but golly gee wiz this guy is just an ass, even when he's a guest.

This is why I have any interest in Hoagland, without the eccentric personality and his grandiosity he would be no different than the revolving door of Coast guests who hold no interest for me.  The diva and school marm are my favorite parts of his personality. The conspiracy guy aspect of him actually depresses me. I like the delusion that he truly believes he's discovered new physics, the torsion field hyperdimensional physics with a Bulova watch and pyramids. When he goes off and ties politics and history to his model of the unfolding universe I get sad because he crosses the line from eccentric wannabe to kook and probably some form of mental illness.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: August 28, 2017, 04:18:49 AM »

Church is smarmier than even Jorch. It's amazing that wherever he goes the night sky is filled with an incredible variety of UFO's. He actually addressed that, says when he's home in LA he sees nothing but then he goes to these UFO symposiums and what do you know, the sky is full of incredible UFO phenomena. You're seeing stars idiot, get away from the big city smog and lights and the night sky is much more vibrant but no those aren't UFOs you're seeing.

But what's most annoying about him is the voice and personality attached to it. He loves his deep cheesy FM DJ voice, you can actually hear him listening to it. He also has an affected chuckle embedded in it, he most sounds like every strip club dj/announcer I remember from my younger days. No idea what current strip clubs dj's sound like, probably the same as 25 years ago.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Knapp
« on: August 28, 2017, 03:38:24 AM »
Perogies?  where are you located?  that's Ukrainian food.

Perogies belong to a bunch of Slav countries including Poland, Ukraine and Slovakia. All the Polish people I know talk endlessly about mom and grandma's perogies. The European map has been drawn over carved up so many times, western part of Ukraine became part of Poland post WWI. Perogies I think are both their national comfort peasant food.

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lol wtf the solar eclipse last week revealed ancient glass crystal cathedrals on the Moon according to Hoagie. the corona was hiding them all this time, no explanation why the astronauts who walked on the Moon missed them.

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oh that was quite the spirited exchange between Hoagie and his guest. Nurse will be by soon with a big needle if things continue this way.

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i can't even follow this insanity - so Trump is going to Houston where he might be assassinated, the powers that be want him out of the way because something to do with the Kennedy assassination? Trump knows too much!

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ahahahahaha tonight is just a brilliant fireworks display of batshit crazy conspiracy theories. what a circle jerk - literally and figuratively.

anything goes, waiting for Roger Goodell and Tom Brady to get included in this mess.

Hoagie is such a tard, he bites on anything.

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Hoagie's shows should have an expert analyst doing commentary the way football broadcasts do.  'Jim, that right there, what Hoagland just said about the star, complete nonsense.' 'Wow did he just actually say that?' 'This is a total disgrace, he's completely lost his mind.' 'I can't tell from up here in the booth if he's a total charlatan or just stupid.' 'Citizen scientist sounds to me like the guy with the painted face in the third row coming in to play quarterback.'

I listen to shows like tonight and being a very casual follower of things scientific I have no idea if what these people are talking about is complete silliness or something interesting.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: August 25, 2017, 04:01:14 AM »
It doesn't get much lower than tonight's new age buffoonery. Soon as I heard the guest's voice it all came back, i recalled his last appearance and thinking even in Coast's world of losers this was the bottom of the barrel, the dullest awkwardest human being I've ever heard on radio. 'Mark' has an imaginary friend named 'Seth', a spirit/soul existing on the 'other side' who uses 'Mark' to communicate with the world. Seth knows all the secrets of the universe.  Meanwhile 'Mark' continually makes a choking sound and clears his throat, his voice trembles and when Jorch asked him something he started laughing/choking awkwardly. I considered that the guy is a total fraud and just couldn't contain his laughter that a national radio host was taking him seriously. But I don't think so, he seems to be genuine. Seriously how can they put somebody like this on a national radio talk show for 2 hours?

Jorch then takes calls for 'Seth', for some bizarre reason Jorch treats 'Seth' the way one would treat a foreign cleaning lady or 3 year old child, talking down to him.

Absurd show. Jorch just said goodnight to Mark telling him he was a great guest, then added a goodbye to 'Seth' followed up with a chortle, because he knows the entire interview was ridiculous.

Mark and Seth


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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: August 24, 2017, 04:26:05 AM »

This Craig Hulet character is such a blowhard know it all but I do like how he gets snarky with George. He's a fraud I'm sure, he refers to 'clients' who pay him for god knows what, he intimates that his clients are major corporations who pay for his analysis of world affairs. LOL sure buddy.


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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: August 22, 2017, 05:35:06 AM »

Jorch acknowledged us tonight, the Numbers Lady told him how everybody loves him to which Jorch replied 'some of them do then there are the haters'.

He then made a predictably dumb statement that the moon passing in front of the sun somehow proves there is something beyond our understanding he's too cowardly to say is God. Science Jorch, scientists predicted today's event right down to the minute, there is nothing mysterious about the movements of the earth, moon and sun you primitive simpleton.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: August 13, 2017, 06:40:58 AM »

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: August 10, 2017, 05:06:49 AM »
Well this was epic, nauseating, hilarious and enthralling at once. Jones admitted in his recent child custody case that he's an entertainer, a performance artist. Norry on the other hand has no such excuse, he's the real deal, a gormless ass-licking buffoon. I wish I had written down all the ridiculous and disingenuous compliments Jones laid on Jorch that of course Jorch lapped it up like the cum slut that he is.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: August 08, 2017, 03:21:28 AM »

No doubt the winners of the weekly trivia contest will be confederates of Tommy and Jorch. Jorch and Tommy like a little walking around money.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: August 07, 2017, 12:07:47 AM »
Indeed, following the link It's Over posted reveals that you can have your own Psychic Reading House Party. Call for price.

haha shameless people.

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There are a ton of English accents. She's definitely working class.

learning = luh-nin

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: August 06, 2017, 11:55:12 PM »

Post-menopausal wack-job woman strikes again. Maybe we can just call them PMWJs in future.

Surely Noory writes his own copy. What the hell does that mean?
Is her 'latest work' called The Double Helix in which she examines the 'new energy on the planet in the fifth dimension?
Is the new energy (on the planet in the fifth dimension) called the double helix?
Is the fifth dimension (on the planet and in which the new energy resides) called the double helix?
And what the fuck is the fifth dimension anyway?

When the moon is in the seventh house......

lol yep, there's a growing army of them. it's the new Mary Kay Cosmetics, 'Make money, have fun, make friends with your own home based psychic business. We'll teach you everything you need to know!'

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: August 06, 2017, 11:49:46 PM »
"Are yeeewww ready for another Super Suck Sunday?"  :P

Psychic Elizabeth Joyce will review her track record for predictions and her latest work on a new energy on the planet in the fifth dimension called the double helix.

I'd start rounding up these scam artists and throw them in jail.

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700 people have disappeared without a trace from the District of Columbia this year - UFO's are whizzing over the Capital as he looks out his window. Wilbur is a complete crackpot.

Now he claims to have worked with President Ronald Reagan.  ::)

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: August 05, 2017, 02:38:17 AM »

hahaha a Cliff Clavin-esque Christian called in about reincarnation. He knew his shit kinda. Being a Christian he doesn't believe in reincarnation, it's the Devil trying to corrupt people by telling them that life has do-overs so go be evil. 'Now come on, why would Jesus Christ die for our sins if we could just come back to this world over and over'.  Then he carries on about the caste system in India and asks George if he knows what that is, George of course says he does even though he knows nothing about it, then he asks George if he knows what an 'untouchable' is. George is too stupid and lazy to take this guy on and challenge his beliefs in a supernatural Jewish  zombie.

A lady caller follows and she's so impressed with the previous caller 'It's hard to argue with anything that man said George'.  Witless George responds 'great caller'.



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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: August 05, 2017, 02:02:48 AM »

A caller asked her if she could contact some Lord of the Rings character. Susanne giggled 'I'm not a Lord of the Rings person, I'm a Trekkie. Ask me anything about Star Trek.'  The always slow witted host interjects 'Beam aboard. Right?'  Yeah Grampa, that's it, beam aboard.

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