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Paranormal - Conspiracy - UFOs - Etc. / Re: BBC Take on the Illuminati
« on: August 18, 2017, 10:10:51 PM »
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170809-the-accidental-invention-of-the-illuminati-conspiracy

Well written article with interesting historical content.  Doubt it will be embraced by some here, but still a good read.
I became acquainted w Bob Shea in the late 1970s, & Bob Wilson in the late 1980s, having been introduced by libertarian friends.  I even wound up contributing to Shea's last 'zine.  I wouldn't credit them much w accidentally spreading the Illuminati idea.  They were influential, however, and a frequent unacknowledged source in Hollywood.  They chose to do Illuminatus! in Joycean style, so they could hardly blame Umberto Eco for writing on their material in a far more approachable manner.  I will say, though, that few people would've heard of Principia Discordia if not for them.  Kerry Thornley meanwhile had his life made a Hell by Jim Garrison.  At the line in JFK, "Who else's life are you going to ruin?" I wanted to shout back, "Kerry Thornley!"

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Michael Savage
« on: August 14, 2017, 11:03:32 PM »
Doc Savage uttered a Nooryism on today's show -- he said Robert E. Lee & Abraham Lincoln became friends after the Civil War.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
« on: July 26, 2017, 09:41:48 PM »
I would say some people are just sick, my Ramona had no Life Insurance nor did I, I still have none. Has this board come to the point that you all have nothing better to do than sit around and make sick stuff up?
Not sick, just trolling.  Nobody seriously entertains such a suspicion.  Apparently it was effective at getting you to respond.

People had an understandable beef about your having boosted that which didn't deserve such boosting, and some who couldn't accept that it was a judgment call doubted your sincerity.  But apparently that alone wasn't enough to get you to respond, so some of them resorted to ridiculous trolling, & it seems to have worked.

Then again, such content is now typical here.  Lisa (Mrs. Kenny), if you're reading this, this is one of the reasons I've been scarce on BellGab lately.  The other reason is that I don't have much to comment on lately; I tend to go to sleep earlier now, and on the computer I've been using recently the sound hasn't been working.

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Funny thing is that maybe overall that jerk guy did her enormous favor judging from pictures of people supporting her
and overall spin effect from his complain, maybe if he didn't complained to the police she would just sold some drinks & cookies
and that would be more less that's it,.. but in this case he give her much bigger publicity.
Could've been a shill.

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Random Topics / Re: How did you discover Art Bell?
« on: June 29, 2017, 08:13:33 PM »
He came on WABC in the time slot, & largely filling the role, previously filled by John Bachelor & Paul Alexander in their "Conspiracy Radio" show; I don't know what its official name was.  Plus, Curtis Sliwa on WABC made fun of Bell.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: 5 Worst Talk Radio/Podcasts
« on: June 23, 2017, 11:19:38 PM »
You people have no idea what bad is.

How could any of these have been as bad as Kenny G's old WFMU show, whose last run was titled "An Hour of Pain"?  Kenneth Goldsmith's conceptual art included such things as readings in intallments of all the previous year's weather forecasts off WINS.  It's not only hard to think of anybody's program as bad as Kenny G's, it's hard to conceive of any program as bad as Kenny G's.

However, I've heard some really bad radio talk shows by people who were not trying to be bad.  One of them was a guy whose name I forgot who leased time on WVNJ to emcee a phone-in talk show.  He kept referring to "that whole setup there" and similarly vague ramblings.

WFUV had a program called "That's Interesting" which was anything but.  The m.c. sounded like she was falling asleep.  Every.  Time.

Then there was Paul deBrul's extremely strident WNYC program, "CSS [Communithy Service Society] Hotline".  He brooked no opposition from phoners-in like me.
Gah!  Now I see I posted substantially the same material when this thread was new!  Maybe we should just reduce these to a hash address.  Like, "gha08y9", and people would react "LOL" like the prisoners invoking old jokes by #.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: 5 Worst Talk Radio/Podcasts
« on: June 23, 2017, 11:09:48 PM »
You people have no idea what bad is.

How could any of these have been as bad as Kenny G's old WFMU show, whose last run was titled "An Hour of Pain"?  Kenneth Goldsmith's conceptual art included such things as readings in intallments of all the previous year's weather forecasts off WINS.  It's not only hard to think of anybody's program as bad as Kenny G's, it's hard to conceive of any program as bad as Kenny G's.

However, I've heard some really bad radio talk shows by people who were not trying to be bad.  One of them was a guy whose name I forgot who leased time on WVNJ to emcee a phone-in talk show.  He kept referring to "that whole setup there" and similarly vague ramblings.

WFUV had a program called "That's Interesting" which was anything but.  The m.c. sounded like she was falling asleep.  Every.  Time.

Then there was Paul deBrul's extremely strident WNYC program, "CSS [Communithy Service Society] Hotline".  He brooked no opposition from phoners-in like me.

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I'm just wondering what the story was behind that adorable "Fuck" Like a Comma pose.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
« on: May 27, 2017, 06:55:40 PM »
What's great about that avatar is I can't help but hear whatever you write in his voice.

Me?  I got this wolf here.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Most hated radio commercials anyone?
« on: May 27, 2017, 06:51:06 PM »
In general, I dislike any commercials where music is played over someone talking. I know any commercial might lead in or lead out with music. But, I do not care for talking with some shitty fucking music playing behind it. Whomever though of this is the Devil!!
The unintentionally funniest one I recall like that was for a gas appliance dealer.  I think it was during Barry Farber's program on WMCA in the 1980s.  I phoned in to call att'n to it, asked the lady if she recognized the tune, she said, "Yes: Mash."  I said, "Suicide Is Painless [it was instrumental]...for a gas appliance dealer.  She drew in a breath thru her teeth, then said, "Oh, that's right!"  They changed it shortly afterward.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Most hated radio commercials anyone?
« on: May 27, 2017, 06:45:16 PM »
Any commercial put out by the Ad Council.  You hear them all the time as filler when there aren't enough legit, cash paying commercials to be played.  They are so syrupy sweet that I feel like I'm going to get sugar diabetes just by listening to them.
In general, yes, but they also had that great one about opening the ketchup bottle.  (Co-sponsored?  Co-produced?  Or Ad Council alone?)

PSAs (not necessarily from the Ad Council, which formed to sell US involvement in World War 2) include some of the most awful and some of the best.  The awful include spots that count as PSAs only because of being run by a not-for-profit; I'm thinking now of the Lung Ass'n ad that's so ridiculous when you realize all it's doing is touting their success & continued effort on behalf of coercive anti-tobacco (not even necessarily anti-smoking) efforts -- why don't they publicize the actual scientific research they've funded?  Great is one I hope won a Cleo: the Credit Fairy phone call, by the banking interests.

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Almost all best parts of The Men Who Stare at Goats were in the thirty second trailer shown on TV. I did have fun wondering what happened to the guys who took in helicopter while tripping their brains out, though.  :D
That reminds me:  Bert Stubblebine's wife, Dr. Rima Laibow, was going to participate in seancing Bert using Bob Blumetti's runic Ouija board at my house, but I preferred to go for a walk with some other pagan friends on the Sussex Branch trail instead that day.  Latest plan is to do the seance at Bob B.'s instead.  In case you didn't know, Gen. Stubblebine was the one in charge of the projects that movie made fun of, and he died this winter here in NJ.

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Or like everything else it can go back to The Simpsons and there being a gas leak making everybody hallucinate
Was that lifted from Dashiel Hammet's Dain Curse?

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I read recently that "toomeric" is a common British pron. of turmeric.

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Random Topics / Re: how can straight people take back the rainbow?
« on: May 18, 2017, 07:33:32 PM »
i think I still have a rainbow ribbon from ~1979.  It was an anti-draft thing IIRC.

Heck, I'm wondering how we can take back the swastika. Or the word "gay".  Or "gender" & "sex".  At least we got folk music back, I think.

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Random Topics / Re: how do i become a wizard?
« on: May 12, 2017, 11:19:00 PM »
and a supple wrist helps, too.
If you're a gumball wizard, you need an iron fist.

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I do not understand the root cause of his habit of asking a question that was just answered, sometimes in excruciating detail. I doubt that even he can be that stupid.
Maybe he's just imitating Bob & Ray, who did that routine a lot, most famously in the interview of the expert on the Kimodo Dragon.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
« on: May 02, 2017, 08:08:10 PM »
Asa Bell.  Is that clear?

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
« on: May 02, 2017, 08:04:16 PM »
Albert Armand Bell, or for short....

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
« on: May 02, 2017, 07:57:09 PM »
Alexander Bell. Has a nice ring to it.
So does Audi Bell.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
« on: May 02, 2017, 07:54:47 PM »
Time to break out the drone!

Any guesses for the next Baby Bell's name?  You know it has to start with an A.
Alexander/Alexandra too obvious?

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Politics / Re: The Libertarian Way to Leave a Tip
« on: May 02, 2017, 07:43:40 PM »
Someone I knew had printed cards (same wording as on the pictured envelope) decades ago.  Might've been Jim Lewis, I forget.  Maybe Andy Melechinski.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
« on: April 29, 2017, 05:59:06 PM »
We know Art still comes on here sometimes. Oh, how I'd love to see his face as he scrolls down his thread to see post after post going on about his luscious moobs.
Was that entirely a product of someone's image composition, or is there a story behind it?

I got 'em just from being fat.  If you subtracted the belly, then it would look like gynecomastia.

Know who gets gynecomastia most often?  Alcoholics.  Liver fx declines to where the estrogen that's a catabolite of androgens builds up to female levels.  Can happen sometimes just from getting old.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: has george noory ever told a lie?
« on: April 29, 2017, 05:50:42 PM »

Where to start.  How about 'I do 8 hours of prep work for each show, then I come on the air and do 4 more hours'.  Followed up with having Lisa Lyings sending out emails in responnce to complaints that George is the hardest working man in radio.
 
If any of that is true then he may as well stop, because the show sounds like he walks in completely cold just about every single night.
No, it often sounds worse.  If he came in completely cold & conducted the show that way, all golly gee whiz, that wouldn't be so bad, and sometimes it is indeed that way.  I've heard emcees w that style who were pretty good.  But often it sounds like he prepped a little in some retarded way, seizing on some irrelevancies while missing the big picture.  The interviewee mentions something Noory recognizes from his prep, & he thinks, "Aha!  This is where my preparation pays off."  Then he jumps in & derails the interview.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: has george noory ever told a lie?
« on: April 29, 2017, 05:42:40 PM »
Noory stated he was #2 behind Rush Limbaugh, never mentioning that he was #2 in affiliates, not listeners.
Oh.  Looking at the subject line, your not having quoted anything, I thought you meant Noory stated he & Limbaugh were #2 & #1 in lies, respectively.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: The "Exposing PseudoAstronomy" Podcast
« on: April 29, 2017, 05:38:14 PM »
Impact craters form from hypervelocity impacts, where when the impactor strikes, it's moving faster than it and the ground can react: Sound speed.  Sound speed isn't just how fast sound travels, it's how fast each adjacent molecule in a material can move to let the ones next to it that something has happened.  That means that your intuition about what "should" happen goes away.  In a hypervelocity impact, almost nothing matters except for the total kinetic energy of the impactor.  Direction doesn't matter -- it would in a non-hypervelocity impact.
It's like when people see JFK's head on film jerk backward from an ostensible gunshot, they think it must've been from a shot in front, to conserve momentum, when actually the chief effect of the bullet is to pressurize the skull contents, which pressure is relieved mostly thru the biggest opening, the exit wound.  So the main thing here is the pressure xmitted to the ground by the impact, which tries to relieve itself isotropically.

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What is the story there Gravity?   Hell, in Texas I would figured thirty ought six casings would be so common they are mixed in with gravel..............
In Nevada too, which is why a casing found in the BLM plot behind the Bells' would mean nothing.  I found casings in New York City too.

No, I think John Kennedy had the severe misfortune to get in the way of, 1st, a bullet intended for John Connally, 2nd, a bullet that would've been intended for Oswald had a finger not found the trigger prematurely.  Remember, folks, that's not where your finger should be while you're finding your target.

But he was good at dodging bullets metaphorically.  At least he never got another chance to kill the rest of us.

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Paranormal - Conspiracy - UFOs - Etc. / Re: Joe Friday And The UFO's
« on: April 28, 2017, 12:11:03 AM »
One thing the series did very differently from Dragnet was to use an old technique from serials: the misleading cliffhanger.  Project UFO would go into a commercial break with a puzzling or shocking shot from a certain POV, then not at the next resumption but maybe the one after that, maybe even after 2 breaks, "explain" it with a more informative shot.  Very effective, lots of fun.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
« on: April 21, 2017, 09:28:33 PM »
NewtRadio.org shut down beginning of this mo., slightly less than 3 mos. of oper'n.

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Random Topics / Re: Weird Geographical Information
« on: April 14, 2017, 09:49:58 PM »
One might think that C2C folks and the like are a new phenomena but really our country was often founded, explored, or developed by zealots, crackpots, flim-flam artists, fundamentalists, crazies, drunks, and the like, in addition to the Founders etc (though some of them could be questionable even.) I love it. This stuff is nothing new and I hope it doesn't change (no violence or abuse though.)
That's why when I get a chance, I should get & read The Rogue Republic.  Maybe should combine it w a trip to today's Dominion of West Fla.  Like when I addressed a post card to my friend Nancy in Mich., "Upper Canada".

But I think I first want to get & read Continental Dash.  I figured the companion music to it should be Brian Eno's "Taking Tiger Mtn. (By Strategy)":

We climbed & we climbed, oh how we climbed, my how we climbed

Up the poles, of course.

Over the stars

Over, in the sense of "north of", the stars as in Stars & Stripes, i.e. north of the USA.

to top Tiger Mtn.

Which exists in Wash. state near the telegraph line.  There is no real Tiger Mtn. in China, although there is a Dragon & Tiger Mtn. there.

forcing the lines thru the snow.

Of course, the telegraph line thru the snow of Russian North America (now Alaska).

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