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Random Topics / Re: Music
« on: Today at 02:45:23 AM »

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Random Topics / Re: Music
« on: Today at 02:43:55 AM »
John Lennon with Rick Nielsen amd Bun E. Carlos of Cheap Trick.  Tony Levin is the bassist.


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Random Topics / Re: Music
« on: Today at 02:07:04 AM »
Frank Zappa's first TV appearance?



LOL.  That was a nice find.  I've never been the biggest fan of Zappa's music but that may be my fault not his. I certainly can appreciate the artist that he was.  All I ever heard when I was young was "Don't Eat the Yellow Snow" and I was familiar with the Sheik Yerbouti album.   His song Valley Girl was of my generation and I loved it.  I was just reading up on him on Wiki.  He was a conservative libertarian before it became popular though he didn't care for the Christian right.  I remember him speaking out against Tipper Gore's PMRC and I wholeheartedly agreed with him.  The only drug he used was pot and he only did it a few times.  Still, the man was a bit weird if not eccentric.  Too bad he died at such a young age.


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Politics / Re: Guns
« on: Yesterday at 10:06:50 AM »
Clint checking his revolver, 1962


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Random Topics / Re: The BellGab Classic Movie Playhouse
« on: Yesterday at 09:21:16 AM »
I've now added this to my collection.  Surprisingly, I don't think I'd ever seen "Dracula" until last night.  I can see why Bela will be forever remembered as the classic Dracula.  A really eerie old-time movie.



Wow.  I thought anybody born before 1975 would have seen this when they were young.  I kind of envy you just seeing it for the first time.  If you ever get the chance catch the Spanish language version made at Universal at the same time.  Most of the Lugosi Dracula dvd's have it as an extra.  In some ways, it is better.  Lugosi was the better Dracula and no one can replace Dwight Frye as Renfield but the ladies are easier on the eyes and I prefer the Van Helsing of the Spanish version.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Dave Schrader
« on: Yesterday at 06:08:27 AM »
Gotta say tonight's show left me cold.  First guest was a skeptic who didn't really believe though she was a bit more open-minded than some.  The second was scholarly Brit and well they tend to bore me.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Dave Schrader
« on: Yesterday at 05:31:41 AM »
The show with Bill Scott was one of the most compelling Coast to Coast shows in recent memory.  I was disappointed that Scott had destroyed the tapes of the possessed Roxanne speaking in the Demon voice.  I decided to download and listen to George Knapp's show with Bill Scott, from July 2012. Scott was on for only half the show, so the discussion was a bit more compressed, but still a fine show with Mr. Knapp.

One item of note: In the Knapp show, Bill Scott again admits He destroyed all the Roxanne tapes with the demon voice. He tried to find copies of those tapes with no success.
However, Scott told Knapp that apparently, Roxanne kept repeating this episode with different radio shows, and Scott tried to call in to these other hosts to warn the. In 2012, Scott actually found a clip from one of those shows on the internet!  I don't recall him telling Dave this.  This morning, after hearing this on the Knapp episode, I went to BING, and searched for 'Roxanne Possessed Radio Show'.  Right away, I found the clip on Youtube, one of several with Roxanne. It's from radio host Bob Larson, and it's from 1988!  So, go to the link below if you want to hear a sample of distressed and possessed Roxanne. 



P.S. Glad to hear that Roxanne is doing well now, recently married.

That's not the same girl.  If you play part 2, the mother talks to Larson and as far as I know the mother was never involved in the Bill Scott case. She was threatening to kill the daughter.  Also the girl is named Rebecca here.  I think this tape is one of Larson's cons.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: March 25, 2017, 09:41:04 PM »
FYI: 10th annual "Earth Hour" (global Lights Out -- in support of Climate Change Fact) is TONIGHT Sat March 25th at 8.30 pm your local time till 9:30 pm. (as in started half-hour ago on East Coast USA/Canada etc.)

LOL.  I believe climate change is a fact.  It's been happening for millions of years. However, I won't ever be supporting this effort.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
« on: March 25, 2017, 07:46:56 PM »
Wouldn't it be a darn shame if theOne went to jail?  Nah.  Go get him, Art! I doubt he is the stalker though.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: March 25, 2017, 03:11:17 PM »
We've given these private industries a chance to participate in healthcare, but their unmitigated greed has proven the free market doesn't work for something as vital to our survival as health care. Unlike other consumer services, say auto repair, if you don't like what you're getting you go to another company. And if they offer decent service at a decent price, they make money cause you'll use them again, and recommend them to your friends. 

It seems attempts to reign in the health insurance industry with any type of regulation at this point will result in the companies folding, the executives taking their big bonuses, laying off the employees, and moving on. We may end up with some form of socialized care because there's simply no one left to offer it.

That is true.  However, the VA has been a failure for many of our veterans and I am extremely reluctant to hand over management of our healthcare to our federal government. I'm not sure what the answer is.  I think tort reform is necessary to help reduce the increasing costs of healthcare.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: March 25, 2017, 02:34:37 PM »
Centralizing healthcare helps keep costs down. Regular out-patient visits and follow-up after hospitalization, managing chronic conditions in an out-patient setting rather than the ER, etc...There are myriad ways to save healthcare dollars when patients are enrolled in managed care plans with a focus on preventive care. Leaving people without plans is inviting disaster, not just for the patients, but the financial and moral repercussions of leaving millions without healthcare will ultimately take its toll on our country in one way or another.

There's other reasons healthcare in the U.S is so expensive: America is a litigious society, people will sue for every little thing. As a result, doctors tend to practice medicine defensively, ordering tests they might not otherwise order based on their clinical decision, but out of concern they cover all their bases should they get sued. Can you blame them? Malpractice insurance is already ridiculously expensive. Between the health insurance industry dictating what care they'll cover, and attorneys ready to sue, its an uphill battle practicing medicine in the U.S these days.

Another outrageous expense is pharmaceuticals. I was shocked to recently discover roughly 1/4 of every healthcare dollar spent goes to medication. The high price of pharmaceuticals was on Trump's fix-it list, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

So basically, if anyone here has ever been on any type of company improvement committee to improve service and cut costs, you know it's vital to make a list of the barriers to your plan and start there. Since the Rs have given up on healthcare reform and have no idea what to do next, i'll provide a list of barriers for them.

1. The Health Insurance industry  2.Trial lawyers. 3. The Pharmaceutical industry.

I'm not optimistic about the fact that the people tasked to resolve our healthcare problem are deeply embedded with the barriers to the problem.  :P

I don't like the idea of government controlling healthcare but you make a lot of excellent points regarding why our healthcare is so expensive and I completely agree.  The litigious nature of our society particularly over the last 50 years has been one of the key reasons why the cost of our healthcare has skyrocketed.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Jimmy Church
« on: March 25, 2017, 01:30:21 AM »
Good night.


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Random Topics / Re: Music
« on: March 25, 2017, 01:03:50 AM »





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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Jimmy Church
« on: March 25, 2017, 12:36:57 AM »



My eyelids are very heavy so probably won't be around long.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: March 24, 2017, 10:10:38 PM »
Of course, you realize that someone could have a very high IQ and lots of drive and still be a total psychopath.  ;)

True dat!

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: March 24, 2017, 09:06:02 PM »
High IQ test scores showing a large measure of success for a society, culture, race, or individual is flawed. Even highly educated professors who possess these vaunted high IQ test scores have a hard time quantifying exactly what intelligence is, much less how to test for it in a meaningful way. High, average, or low IQ test scores don't always correlate into real world success or failure of an individual; much less society as a whole. At best IQ testing can give a limited insight into an individuals potential, but a high IQ alone doesn't guarantee an individuals success in the world; much less the success of a society, culture, or race as a whole. Causation and correlation hinge upon a multitude of factors, some of which may not be obvious from a cursory glance.

Guns Germs And Steel was a good book by Jared Diamond, which was adapted into 3 part documentary. His quest seeks out possible explanations into how winners of the vagina lottery born in the West, rose to dominate the world and decree themselves the apex of civilization; as other cultures languish. He offers a compelling even handed in-depth explanation, that holds up well against the other competing theories on the subject.



...and the audiobook:


You can have the highest IQ on the planet but if you don't have drive, you're no better than the schmuck next door.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: March 24, 2017, 05:21:30 PM »
Republicans have the Presidency, Senate and House (by a decent margin) and still couldn't get anything passed. What will they say next time "Hey elect Republicans so was can get rid of Obamacare...... We are super serious non-crossing fingers this time"

There's a line I just heard today, "Any jackass can knock down a barn, takes a good man/carpenter to build one"


I can't argue with that point.  Republicans had 7 years to craft a better bill and they sat on their laurels and came up with this hack job in the last few months. That said, this will be revisited later on and hopefully Congressional Republicans will be better prepared.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: March 24, 2017, 04:58:57 PM »
keep telling yourself that!

It's true. I've never been for the bill.  If you read my posts on this thread going back, you'll know that's the truth.  The Republicans did themselves a favor today.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: March 24, 2017, 04:54:12 PM »
hahaha you are so butthurt, like a little child.

Nah, it was a horrible bill.  Obamacare lite.  Obamacare is crashing and burning.  Many states only have one insurance carrier now.  It is not sustainable.  This way the Republicans can't be blamed for the failed system.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: March 24, 2017, 04:49:58 PM »
a majority and they can't even do shit. so useless

About as useless as yourself.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: March 24, 2017, 03:16:10 PM »
We've needed an intelligent bill on healthcare insurance going back at least 20 years.  ObamaCare was a disgrace, meant to fail in order to move public opinion towards a Euro-style national healthcare system.

That the Republican fallback position was to vote to rename it RinoCare, and saddle Trump with it was cynical and disgusting.  Where are his advisors to tell him the bill was not what he campaigned on? 

I'm getting the feeling this administration is going to be another Schwarzenegger style disaster, as I reluctantly predicted.  Still, we got the defeat of Hilary Clinton in the bargain - and if that's all we get, I'll still take it.

It was a bad bill.  You would have thought the Republicans on the Hill would have worked hard the last 7 years to craft a suitable plan instead of offering an Obamacare lite bill.   Better luck next time.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: March 24, 2017, 02:52:13 PM »
Paul Ryan better watch his back, after the healthcare vote he may be on the receiving end of a Trumper tantrum.

There will be no vote now.  You read it here first.

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Random Topics / Re: Celebrities Celebrating Their Celebrity Birthdays
« on: March 24, 2017, 09:49:49 AM »
First up: the incomparable, exquisite, absolutely scintillating, SHIRLEY MANSON--born August 26, 1966.

(Wow. That's a lot of sixes.)



https://www.thesecretlanguage.com/report/personology/?r=19660826





For those of you unwilling to sit through the entirety of a ten-minute clip to discover why you just did (FAGGOTS), the hook here is that, during the course of the interview, it is revealed that the interview is taking place on the interviewee's birthday.

Allegedly. Get the snakebite kit.

I have the same number of 6's in my birthday.  May 6, 1966.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: March 24, 2017, 04:42:27 AM »

Sir, you are a gentleman and a scho... hey, wait, how do you know?





I was an observer long before I ever deigned to post.  However, I joined shortly before you did.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
« on: March 23, 2017, 11:48:34 PM »
I don't come here a lot because I want need or am seeking praise or ass kissing, that's the last damn thing I would expect from Bell Gab. I came here because I like the rough and tumble atmosphere in this group and have made many of my own contributions over the Years. I can give every bit as good as I get, But i just am not going to unmask people and go after their lives and Family's. I use my real name and almost nobody else does, I guess for fear of the above stuff happening to them?

I have never lied about anything including the Stalker stuff that did happen exactly as I told you it did. I have made mistakes in judgement with respect to my career which I think I have admitted here and elsewhere, I am many things but a liar is not one of them.

I do have COPD which is something that kind of sneaks up on you over time, it is not so bad that I could not do a show if I decided to do so. I did get a very serious case of pneumonia which set me back big time but I am for the moment pretty much ok.

At the expense of drawing fire I will say again that Heather is miles and miles better in the last Year and that is my Professional judgment, it is also the Judgment of many people I respect. It seems to me that the people in this forum should be proud of her, she was after all one of us.

That is a bit of a update for those who need ammo.

Art

She is doing better.  She asks better questions than your successor on Coast to Coast does.  That said, she really needs to be herself and not Girl Bell.  I listen to a show now and then.  My interest lies more in the paranormal so I tend to stick to the shows with that topic.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Midnight In The Desert With Heather Wade
« on: March 23, 2017, 11:32:01 PM »
Ok I think I'll skip it, just let me know if the west coast starts glowing.

Fuk Fukushima.  Guess I'll tune in another night next week.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Midnight In The Desert With Heather Wade
« on: March 23, 2017, 11:30:06 PM »
More story reading?

That's a good reason why I don't bother with the first 30 minutes of the show.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
« on: March 23, 2017, 06:33:57 PM »
No probs here, 21st.  I'm just glad MV isn't locked into nonstop Bell-love.

Ugh, I don't want this forum to be like shirleypal's forums, may she rest in peace.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
« on: March 23, 2017, 06:26:22 PM »
Art handled the exit horribly. I'm not pissed off, just disappointed that after years of similar situations he couldn't handle it better. Art doesn't owe anyone anything. But it for sure should have been handled more professionally. Art doesn't help by occasionally making comments teasing he will fill in and never doing it. Either do it or stop saying it's a possibility. Also, if Art wanted to help his friends Keith and Heather he would fill in, instead of just teasing it. Heather was put in no win situation and hasn't handled situation well with bellgab, which is under statement. I rarely listen but when I have, she is improving.

That is exactly how I feel though I never take him seriously when he says he might fill in for Heather.  I'll believe it when I see it.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
« on: March 23, 2017, 06:24:24 PM »
Yes.  Most definitely.  Most people don't enjoy feeling like they're being played.  Especially his former fans.

Just to be clear,  my criticisms aren't aimed at people like you and paperboy who have been extremely disappointed by Art and have legitimate criticisms to make of him and the way he handled his retirements.  I think Art should reply to criticisms leveled at him by paperboy and some others.  Art is not without fault for the way things turned out.  All I'm suggesting is for people to be somewhat courteous and lay off posting the vile shit.

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