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Politics / Re: OMG, Arians Grande bombed in UK
« on: Yesterday at 04:01:50 PM »

The more you attempt to argue from authority, the more transparent your preposterous cluelessness becomes.

You are a joke. And one that lacks humour, at that.

Micheal! Hush.

Politics / Re: OMG, Arians Grande bombed in UK
« on: Yesterday at 03:29:08 PM »
Aw! The puppetmasters got their strings all tangled. I feel real bad for you.  ::)

Jack's right. You're creating your own demise and will eventually choke on the literally tonnes of bullshit you churn out into the world on a daily basis.  ;D

You can't count in plural. Your ambition exceeds ability.

Politics / Re: OMG, Arians Grande bombed in UK
« on: Yesterday at 03:23:00 PM »
It has everything to do with ideology: Yours and theirs together in this perverse little marriage that's now literally killing your own children. Do you care? No. You just keep defending a self-defeating ideology.  ::)

My understanding is that they have rounded this guy's relatives and accomplices up already. So much for your conspiracy theory about Trump.  ::) ;D

Not a CT. The WH did release sensitive information to the US press. Our Home Sec called them to tell em what incompetent asswipes they are.

Politics / Re: OMG, Arians Grande bombed in UK
« on: Yesterday at 03:07:42 PM »
Totally non sequitur. One has nothing to do with the other. This wasn't a laptop blowing up a plane, it was a suicide vest. Nice attempt at somehow connecting Trump to it when it's your political ideology, the ideology of the left, of globalism that is ultimately responsible for allowing this to happen.

You're a moron. Nothing to with ideology. Its to do with preserving the integrity of an investigation. Naming the bomber before they have chance to round up any contacts tips the contacts off the police know who they're looking for.

Today the WH also released to the press, forensic photos sent to them from UK police...way to go Trumptards in the WH.

I guess this proves the WH is sympathetic to ISIS.

Politics / Re: OMG, Arians Grande bombed in UK
« on: Yesterday at 08:07:45 AM »
 Seems the policy of shooting their mouth off with sensitive information regarding terrorism is endemic in the Trump WH. The UK police understandably wanted to keep it quiet about the identity of the murderous cunt, but told the WH presumably as a heads up. The WH told the US press who naturally thought it common knowledge. Lesson learned; Don't tell the big mouths in the WH.

Manchester attack: US leaks about bomber irritating - Rudd

Home Secretary Amber Rudd has said she is irritated with the US for releasing information about the Manchester bomber before UK police would have liked.Ms Rudd said the British had wanted to control the flow of information to "keep the element of surprise".She told BBC Radio 4's Today programme she had been very clear with Washington "that it should not happen again".

Counter-terrorism detectives have spoken in the past about how important it sometimes is for them that names of suspects do not make it into the media. They say a delay of around 36 hours, before the public know who they are investigating can allow them to arrest known associates of the suspect before they know police are looking for them.

Ms Rudd was asked whether she would be looking at how information sharing may have resulted in the premature release of details the British police and security services had not wanted in the public domain.
The home secretary told Today: "Yes, quite frankly.

"The British police have been very clear they want to control the flow of information in order to protect operational integrity - the element of surprise - so it is irritating if it gets released from other sources, and I've been very clear with our friends that that should not happen again."

She had been concerned that this "might have compromised aspects of the investigation", namely that it may have "alerted associates" of the bomber "that the security forces here knewwho they were looking for".

Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: May 23, 2017, 05:45:03 PM »
There are still a whole bunch of cabinet members you haven't named.

This post was about the Seth Rich story being/not being debunked. Don't obfuscate.

Yes it has. Fox who were one of the main outlets have retracted the story, said there's no basis in fact. They were a bit late after every other news outlet said it was not true, but they got there.

Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: May 23, 2017, 05:34:57 PM »

Must be warm, the jacket is off..More or less gravitas? You decide.  ;D

Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: May 23, 2017, 05:29:48 PM »
More propaganda and obfuscation.  ;)

He must read the forum, he's wearing a shirt and washed his ears.

Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: May 23, 2017, 05:21:35 PM »
I won't bother you with details you won't believe.

I have said it over and over. The Russians may have hacked the DNC. That doesn't mean they are the source for Wikileaks. I stand by everything I typed above. CIA and FBI never examind the DNC server. They might have hacked the Russians and found some of the same files, but that still does not prove they were the source for Wikileaks.

Or, It might have been Flynn. Trump should have never trusted a lifelong democrat.

Wikileaks is run by the FSB..The CIA said that. And how do you explain Trump saying he loved Wikileaks and called on Russia to release e mails (But oddly he's gone quiet on that now)? Then there's Roger Stone and Rudy Giuliani both miraculously tweeting and stating on TV about upcoming revelations that just happened to be made public a day or so later by Wikileaks. Flynn is still being cited by Trump as badly treated by anyone and everyone, and regrets firing him.

Politics / Re: OMG, Arians Grande bombed in UK
« on: May 23, 2017, 05:10:02 PM »
i even have my own small furniture restoration business, what do you have, yorkshire pud?

Stop drinking the shelack.  ;)

Politics / Re: OMG, Arians Grande bombed in UK
« on: May 23, 2017, 05:08:44 PM »
you want to know my life story? you can PM me, i don't have any secrets. no i'm not the type of person you think i am. i just use bellgab as my outlet for all of my thoughts on things. if im banned from bellgab, i usually use some other website. what? you have a problem with that yorkshire pud? you want to believe im this caricature that you've built up in your head about what "folk who think different" look like / act like / live their lives like?? hahaha. now the real question is where do you fall in response to all of those question?? that's what i'd like to know. could somebody possibly be projecting here?

I'm very close to pinging you then?  ;D

Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: May 23, 2017, 05:06:28 PM »
What is your definition of debunked?

Seth Rich died in a suspicious murder. He might have been the source of the DNC server leaks. That much has not been debunked. Kim Dotcom claims he was involved in helping Seth Rich get that data to Wikileaks. That hasn't been debunked.

Maybe the reports about the independent PI have been walked back, but Seth Rich remains dead and there is more evidence that he is the source for Wikileaks than there is for the Russians being the source.

The DNC would not allow the FBI to have access to the server. They had it reviewed by their own contractor. I believe the owner of that company is Ukrainian and has a pretty strong hatred for Russia.

No evidence that the Russians hacked the DNC has been presented. Maybe they did, but that doesn't mean they were the source for Wikileaks. Or it could have been someone using the tools to make it look like a Russian hack.

Maybe Seth Rich was a random murder. I still think he was the source for Wikileaks. Maybe his death, even if not connected, will be the key to disclosing this whole Russian narrative has been a misdirection by the Clinton/Podesta/DNC crowd.

How do you explain then that CIA and FBI officials have confirmed the Russians are the source of the DNC hacking? And they're very interested in Messrs Flynn ("invoking the fifth implies guilt"), Manifort, Page, Kushner, Stone, and others...No mention of the late Mr Rich.

Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: May 23, 2017, 04:58:56 PM »
We are in agreement here. :)

No surprises there... ::)

Politics / Re: OMG, Arians Grande bombed in UK
« on: May 23, 2017, 04:44:41 PM »
the funny part is i probably have my life together more than anyone on bellgab :(

Only insofar as a narcissist does. You're unemployed? Unemployable? Single/virgin? Live alone? (Do say when I'm wrong) Never had a close relationship? Never likely to? Had a problem with one/both parents? Possibly no siblings, but if you do, have little contact?  :-\

Politics / Re: OMG, Arians Grande bombed in UK
« on: May 23, 2017, 04:32:11 PM »
oh of course, how stupid of me! im such a dummy! i dont no the wordzz :(

You're also severally mentally disturbed. You could take a vote of course if you think that is unfair... ::)

Politics / Re: OMG, Arians Grande bombed in UK
« on: May 23, 2017, 04:27:34 PM »
you know nobody on this board is more angry, pissed off and hostile than you?

Hostile? I only asked.  ;)

Politics / Re: OMG, Arians Grande bombed in UK
« on: May 23, 2017, 04:22:51 PM »
they should we wouldn't have terrorism anymore

Be honest. Did the rest of your family live?

Politics / Re: OMG, Arians Grande bombed in UK
« on: May 23, 2017, 04:15:27 PM »
king of kings really knows what's up with the world. everyone else here is just a mouthbreathing droolin' tard :(

Yeah, he sure does. The CIA, FBI, MI5, MI6, and all the UK police forces ask King of cunts his expert advice before any decision.  ;D ;D

The home of Stainless Steel (later developed from what was made here)...Clearly a less favourable place to invent (and patent) world changing things.

Politics / Re: Fake News...
« on: May 23, 2017, 03:49:41 PM »
Who knew? ::)

NEW YORK — Fox News on Tuesday removed from its site an inaccurate story that peddled a conspiracy theory about the murder of Democratic National Committee Staffer Seth Rich. The story had remained online for almost a week after CNN pointed out basic problems with its assertions.

“On May 16, a story was posted on the Fox News website on the investigation into the 2016 murder of DNC Staffer Seth Rich,” a statement on the Fox News website said. “The article was not initially subjected to the high degree of editorial scrutiny we require for all our reporting. Upon appropriate review, the article was found not to meet those standards and has since been removed.”

“We will continue to investigate this story and will provide updates as warranted,” the statement added.

It was not immediately clear if the reporter or editor responsible for the story were facing any disciplinary action.


No. I'm sure they're all legit but they're just not using their intelligence in a quest for the truth anymore but instead trying to give an air of objectivity to their political ideology with them as the "scientific" representative of that ideology. That's the fraud. That's what's disingenuous and phony.

And you know all this because?

Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: May 23, 2017, 03:41:05 PM »
Former CIA Dir. John Brennan testifies to House committee on Russia investigation.

Watch Brennan's hands, especially when being questioned by Trey Gowdy. :o   ;D

Because what? Trump tells the unvarnished truth? Jeeeze.  ;D  You know don't you that Flynn and Trump said anyone invoking the fifth had something to hide? And Flynn said anyone wanting immunity must be guilty? He has done both, at the same time as his lawyer saying he has a story to tell. You do know that?

They're all frauds.

You mean fake degrees? Made up?  Thatcher had a degree in Chemistry (MSc I believe)

Politics / Re: OMG, Arians Grande bombed in UK
« on: May 23, 2017, 03:36:32 PM »

Weirdly AJ hasn't dug into Robinson; I mean Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon (born 27 November 1982), known by the pseudonym Tommy Robinson and also going by the names Andrew McMaster and Paul Harris.

According to Robinson, after he left school he applied to study aircraft engineering at Luton Airport: "I got an apprenticeship six hundred people applied for, and they took four people on."[10] He qualified in 2003 after five years' study, but then was convicted for drunken assault of an off-duty police officer[10] who, according to Searchlight magazine, had intervened to stop a domestic incident between Robinson (then called Lennon) and his girlfriend Jenna Vowles.[11] Robinson served a 12-month prison sentence,[11] and as a result lost his job at Luton Airport owing to security measures imposed since the September 11 attacks.[10]

Yaxley-Lennon uses the alias "Tommy Robinson", taking the name of a prominent member of the "Men In Gear" (MIG) football hooligan crew, which follows Luton Town Football Club

On 24 August 2010, Robinson was involved in a fight between supporters of Luton Town and Newport County in Luton, on the evening that the two clubs played at Kenilworth Road. Robinson reportedly led the group of Luton fans, and played an integral part in starting a 100-man brawl, during which he chanted "EDL till I die". Eleven months later, in July 2011, he was convicted of having used "threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour" on the night of the incident. He was given a 12-month community rehabilitation order and a three-year ban from attending football matches. He was also sentenced to 150 hours' unpaid work, and ordered to pay £650 in costs.[27]

Robinson was arrested after an EDL demonstration in Tower Hamlets on 3 September 2011 for breach of bail conditions, as he had been banned from attending that demonstration. After his arrest, Robinson began a hunger strike in custody in Bedford Prison, saying that he was a "political prisoner of the state",

On 29 September 2011, he was convicted of common assault after headbutting a fellow EDL member at a rally in Blackburn in April that year.[35] He was given a 12-week jail term, suspended for 12 months

In October 2012, Robinson was arrested and held on the charge of having entered the U.S. illegally. Robinson pleaded guilty at Southwark Crown Court to using someone else's passport*—"possession of a false identity document with improper intention"—to travel to the United States in September 2012, and was sentenced in January to 10 months imprisonment.[41][42] He was sentenced under the name of Stephen Lennon, but the judge added that he suspected it was not his true name, in the sense that it was not the name on his own passport (not the borrowed one), Paul Harris. Robinson was released on electronic tag on 22 February 2013

* the irony!!!

Then a moment of epiphany...

In April 2012, Tommy Robinson took part in a programme in the BBC's television series The Big Questions in which far-right extremism was debated. Mohammed ('Mo') Ansar took part in the same programme, and invited Robinson to join him and his family for dinner.[45] The result was their meeting several times over the next 18 months to discuss issues to do with Islam, Islamism and the Muslim community, accompanied by a BBC team which created the documentary When Tommy met Mo.[46] The turning point came when Robinson and Ansar visited the think tank Quilliam and Robinson witnessed a debate between Quilliam's director, Maajid Nawaz, and Ansar about human rights. Robinson said afterwards to the BBC: "I didn’t think a Muslim would confront Mo Ansar because I thought Mo Ansar was being built as the acceptable face of Islam; and that’s everything that I think is wrong. So when I saw this [debate between Nawaz and Ansar], and I read more about Quilliam and I looked at what Quilliam has done—they've actually brought change, which is what I want to do. I want to bring change. I want to tackle Islamist extremism, I want to tackle neo-Nazi extremism—they're opposite sides of the same coin."[47]

On 8 October 2013, Quilliam held a press conference with Tommy Robinson and Kevin Carroll to announce that Robinson and Carroll had left the EDL. Robinson said that he had been considering leaving for a long time because of concerns over the "dangers of far-right extremism".[48][49] Robinson said that it was still his aim to "counter Islamist ideology ... not with violence but with democratic ideas". Ten other senior figures left the EDL with Robinson and Carroll, and Tim Ablitt became the EDL's new leader. Robinson's decision followed discussions with Quilliam, which describes itself as a "counter-extremism think tank".[48][50]

According to Robinson, when he had met Nawaz during the filming of the BBC documentary, Nawaz had refused to sit with him but had told him: "Tommy, if you ever think about leaving the EDL, and you want to chat, I'm here for you."[10] Off-camera, Robinson had then told Nawaz that he was prepared to depart, and they subsequently held a series of conversations.[51]

When Robinson was questioned by The Guardian newspaper about having in the past blamed "'every single Muslim' for 'getting away' with the 7 July bombings, and for calling Islam a fascist and violent religion, he held up his hands and said: 'I'm sorry, I'm sorry.'" Robinson also said that he would now give evidence to the police to help in their investigation of racists within the EDL.[51] Robinson added that "his future work would involve taking on radicalism on all fronts, although he could not support anti-fascist groups because they also subscribed to 'communism' or were 'anarchists'".[51]

Then back to his criminal ways...

On 28 November 2012, Robinson was charged with three counts of conspiracy to commit fraud by misrepresentation in relation to a mortgage application, facing trial with five other defendants.[57] He pleaded guilty to two charges in November 2013,[58] and on 23 January 2014 he was sentenced to 18 months in prison.[42]

You can be a scientist or a politician, not both.  ;)

From 2015 UK Parliament:

Members of the UK Parliament with science and technology degrees in 2015

So with help from twitter, the list of MPs with science degrees looks something like this (will update as needed):

Heidi Allen MP for South Cambridgeshire (BSc in Astrophysics)
Steve Baker MP for Wycombe (BSc Aerospace Engineering, MSc Computer Science)
Gavin Barwell MP for Croydon Central (BA Natural Sciences)
Margaret Beckett MP for Derby South (BSc Metallurgy)
Karen Bradley MP for Staffordshire Moorlands (BSc Mathematics)
Tom Brake MP for Carshalton and Wallington (BSc Physics)
Julian Brazier MP* for Canterbury (BA Mathematics)
Andrew Bridgen MP for North West Leicestershire (BSc Genetics)
Alan Brown MP for Kilmarnock (BSc Civil Engineering)
Therese Coffey MP for Suffolk Coastal (BSc & PhD Chemistry)
David Davis MP for Haltemprice & Howden (BSc Computer Science)
Robert Flello MP for Stoke-on-Trent South (BSc Chemistry)
Liam Fox MP for North Somerset (Bachelor of Medicine)
Mark Hendrick MP for Central Lancashire (BSc Eletrical Engineering)
Carol Monaghan MP for Glasgow North West (BSc Physics)
Liz McInnes MP for Heywood & Middleton (BSc Biochemistry)
Chi Onwurah MP for Newcastle Central (BEng Electrical Engineering)
Chris Philp MP for Croydon South (BSc Physics)
Alok Sharma MP for Reading West (BSc Physics & Electronics)
Alec Shelbrooke MP for Elmet & Rothwell (BEng Mechanical Engineering)
Graham Stringer MP for Blackley (BSc Chemistry)
Stephen Timms MP for East Ham (MA Mathematics)
Philippa Whitford MP for Ayrshire Central (Bachelor of Medicine)
Sarah Wollaston MP for Totnes (Bachelor of Medicine)
Valerie Vaz MP for Walsall South (BSc Biochemistry)
Nadhim Zahawi MP for Stratford-on-Avon (BSc Chemical Engineering)

*Also has a science PhD.

Politics / Re: OMG, Arians Grande bombed in UK
« on: May 23, 2017, 11:26:15 AM »
Yes, I know who she is, but the fact that the Met Police are even bothering to respond to this during an ongoing terror threat is fucking bewildering.

Just because the MET have replied, doesn't mean they will take it further. They're duty bound to file an incident report if a complaint is made, they don't make the rules.

Politics / Re: OMG, Arians Grande bombed in UK
« on: May 23, 2017, 11:17:25 AM »

This Brit cuck just doesn't quit with the trump propaganda, even when his own country is being burnt down by foreign savages.

I would love to interview you on a gabcast.

Make a date. But bring a friend or three, you'll be outnumbered otherwise.

Politics / Re: OMG, Arians Grande bombed in UK
« on: May 23, 2017, 11:16:22 AM »

Katie Hopkins is famous for being famous. She's also a professional shit stirrer. Some of what she says I agree with, and when she isn't on one of her rants she comes across as quite likeable. But she is basically just an attention whore.

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