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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: Today at 03:53:20 PM »
And tweeting imminent distruction of the Korean peninsula is Trump fixing the mess?  Got it.

No, it's just Trump's way of contextualizing the matter. 

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: Today at 12:23:32 PM »
Be careful, Kidnostad married one of those convicts. No wonder he's so ornery when his wife keeps pinching his wallet.

We recently came to an understanding about that.  She has agreed to take just the cash and leave my credit cards.  I'm glad we talked it over.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: Today at 11:17:01 AM »
Yeah, I still wonder why Spain doesn't laud Franco, or the twenty or so civil wars that ran concurrently until about 1994. There were five running in the first half of the twentieth century. The rednecks should get over it. Imagine if they'd won, what then?

Like I said.  It's an American thing.  You really shouldn't  try to compare us with Europeans what with their record for starting wars and knuckling under to dictators. It just wouldn't be fair. 

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: Today at 10:51:30 AM »
How is flying the flag that represents traitors and the continuance of slavery be respectful?

It's an American thing that you might not be able to get your head around.  Although we fought a bloody war, we respect the right of those who are now our brothers to honor those of their ancestors who fought and laid down their lives to defend their homeland and what they saw as a just cause.  Even a Brit can understand that the issues were complex and there was much more involved than the preservation of slavery.  Those who are incapable of grasping the details, (which are not all that nuanced or difficult to fathom) resort to cheap black and white (no pun intended) conclusions about those who fought for the Confederacy.  Read Shelby Foote or Bruce Caton if you're interested in something other than the meathead's view of the American Civil War.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: Today at 10:23:17 AM »
Heh.  You forgot a couple.  Yorkie The Pud still loves us all, so much so, he can't tear himself away from BellGab.  And, of course, Dave Noorie still sucks.



What's not to love?  Except for a few wife beaters, sex offenders and leftist trolls we're all swell folks.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: Today at 10:12:58 AM »
Another day, another shitstorm perpetrated by the hateful, volatile, bitter old man Trump, who's determined to alienate and divide as many people as possible, both at home and abroad. His abhorrent behavior makes him unfit for office, with neither the character or temperment to lead the nation anywhere but downhill. He's out of control, even with someone like the capable Gen. John Kelly close by. Enough. It's time for him to go. His entire staff should walk out in protest.

I think you should hold your breath until that happens or at the very least go on a hunger strike.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: Yesterday at 10:40:12 PM »

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: Yesterday at 10:31:31 PM »
Can the orange goblin explain why kneeling is the ultimate sin but parading with the confederate flag is approved.

It has to do with respect but that would be an alien concept to you and those who choose to take a knee. 

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: Yesterday at 05:19:19 PM »
More than a thousand words.



McCain becoming a total dick must be part of the pathological progression of his brain tumor.  Hold on--McCain has been a total dick since his Acadamy days.  Never mind.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: Yesterday at 12:18:38 AM »

Who could have seen this coming? Must've been another lone gunman.

I'm betting it was three Corsican hit men hired by Carlos Marcelo.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: September 22, 2017, 11:59:40 PM »
"It looks like Obama did spy on Trump, just as he apparently did to me."(Sheryl Atkisson, The Hill 9/20/17)

The unconscionable hippocracy of the left in overlooking the misdeeds of the most corrupt Aministration in modern history while engaging in niggling criticism and character assassination of anyone associated with Trump will not be forgotten by fairminded, decent Americans when they go to the polls in 2018 and 2020.  When will it dawn on these chapped-ass liberals that after getting stuck in the hole they dug for themselves, it's a good idea to stop digging? . 

http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/351495-it-looks-like-obama-did-spy-on-trump-just-as-he-did-to-me


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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: September 22, 2017, 09:10:27 PM »

Tiz true...But it can't in the UK be a sitting cabinet minister who benefits..Nor someone directly connected with the sitting PM. And even then it isn't as simple as that, there has to be a demonstrable business plan to bring in employment for the good of the country, not simply to pay off the debt of a bankrupt property that belongs to a cabinet minister.  :)

That's one way of looking at it.  Another is touting a side benefit of investing in America as a sales incentive.  Can you give me a specific time frame in which the Trump family made a killing from selling green cards. I want to do a case study and publish it as a how-to-get-rich-quick tutorial. 

The last I heard, Kushner was involved in such transactions well before he was appointed anything.  But, we'll see what comes out in the wash.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: September 22, 2017, 06:37:27 PM »

Yep..In the immigration policies currently in place under Trump it really is that easy. The other way is paying Kushner at least $500 000, but as I'm not Chinese and don't have that money to sink into his over leveraged properties in NY I decided to go the Noory way. Much much easier!  ;D

Good choice. 

By the way, the pertinent U.S. statutes provide for foreign investors in the U.S. to be given priority in the granting of green cards.  Canada and the U.K. have similar provisions.  Makes sense to me.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: September 22, 2017, 05:42:39 PM »
I don't exist because I didn't join in the podcast last night? Maybe I didn't want the show to end up devolving into the 'bellgabbers who got married' episode. You must not have listened to the show on 8/31 where I chimed in briefly.

Why not take the stick out of your ass and try to cheer up a little. All you do is fight like a little bitch with everyone here. It's like you've taken over B_Dubb's job.

What an endorsement for Jorch's "Paranormal Date."  Sign up and get a green card. 

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: September 22, 2017, 05:21:56 PM »
More proof that the lying son of a bitch  is a lying son of a bitch and Trump was right. 

http://www.libertyheadlines.com/clapper-contradicts-now-admits-trump-may-wiretapped/?AID=7236


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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: September 20, 2017, 09:24:02 PM »
Quote from: Yorkshire pud link=topi 2284.msg1103603#msg1103603 date=1505955582
NK is not a clear and present threat..ugh.

Whew!  What a relief!  And here everyone but you and two others on the planet where thinking that it was.  Thanks for enlightening us.



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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: September 20, 2017, 07:23:12 PM »
I wouldn't. I would have preferred they looked as if they actually believed that what the POTUS was saying was inspirational, worthwhile, not petulant and worthy of the position he holds.. Threatening  to totally destroy NK, (forgetting to consider that many millions of lives including Americans and American allies will be lost) having no concept of what the ME is and isn't; isn't the rantings of a sane mind.


I don't give a rats ass weather anyone in the UN likes him or believes him as long as he follows through on his demand that deadbeat nations start paying their dues and that the rampant corruption within the UN bureaucracy be eliminated.  The UN has proven to be a useless debating society and a waste of valuable real estate in lower Manhatten.  If you doubt that, maybe you can tell me how many wars have been averted by UN action and what specifically it has done to improve the human condition that could not have been achieved by allocating funds to NGOs and through charities with a much lower percentage going to pay for the extravagant lifestyles and outright larceny of international diplomats.  Fuck the UN. 

With regard to Trump's threat to anihilate NK if they pose a clear and present threat to the U.S. or our allies, he said nothing that the last 4 Presidents have not said albeit in more concise and direct terms that leave no room for equivocation. 

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Politics / Re: The Vietnam War - Ken Burns 2017 PBS Series
« on: September 20, 2017, 04:09:07 PM »
Don't get too comfy, there's plenty of non-nuclear shit to destroy the planet with..


Yeah, I know.  The diabolical bastards have acquired the Sith death ray.  We're all gonna die!

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: September 20, 2017, 12:59:47 PM »
In their different ways their expressions say "Oh please make this stop, he didn't say that...did he?"

Yeah, I would have have preferred that their faces had reflected a much lighter mood on their part consistent with the festive occasion that a of head state addressing the UN General Assembly is.  Maybe if they had been wearing party hats and were playing tickle and slap while giggling loudly or if one of them had let a fart rip causing the entire delegation to break into uproarious guffaws it would have been more in keeping with the prevailing party mood in the room. 

Unceasing ridicule of the opposition is one of Saul Alinsky's rules for radicals.  However, I wouldn't accuse the leftest posting on this thread of being consciously motivated by Alinksy's dictum..  I think in most  instances it's a case of their being insecure, needy wretches who want to become wards of a nanny state.   This has the added advantage of obscuring their own lack of initiative and drive and the resulting failure to achieve the lifstyle to which they feel entitled when viewed against a backdrop of institutionalized mediocrity.  Everyone should be entitled to the same standard of living regardless of their productivity and contribution to the economy or overall good of the populace and this should be the case worldwide with no shirker or neerdowell being left behind.  Or,  It could be a simple matter of their being mean- spirited wretches who are wracked with envy of those who were born into better circumstances than they or those with similar or less advantaged backgrounds who have achieved more by their personal effort or just plane good fortune.  Of course, there are those too who were well off at birth and feel guilty about it, but, that's a whole different discussion.

I do see the humor in the comments but I also see the malicious pettiness.











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Politics / Re: The Vietnam War - Ken Burns 2017 PBS Series
« on: September 20, 2017, 09:03:50 AM »

I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea that both of you think that the nuclear weapons still work. It's flummoxing.

Are you two frontin'? Tell me you two are frontin'.

Oh, okay.  I feel better better now that you've told us that nuclear weapons don't work.

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Politics / Re: The Vietnam War - Ken Burns 2017 PBS Series
« on: September 18, 2017, 09:11:11 PM »
You'll get to have those nuclear casualty counts in your lifetime, as more parts of the world become ready to use the nuclear option as a first option. I suppose you are one that actually like to "kick the can" down the road for your children and grandchildren to deal with. I think we could have starved out Japan with a blockade, and, defeated Germany, without Russia. We should have saved those A-Bombs to decapitate the Russian Leadership, Stalin, and the rest. But my real solution to world issues probably is distasteful to you. You'd have probably send a "Capt. Willard" to terminate me for my plan of operations to defeat the enemy, when it could actually have been effective.

You live in your world, and I'll happily live in mine.

Vietnam was a clusterfuck of trying to save face for the West in the Cold War. It was wrong and immoral that we sacrificed the people of Vietnam for our Good, and certainly not for theirs.

Fuckups are recant as well... The Bush Administration not foreseeing the Sunni-Shia civil war in Iraq is poignant. The only long term viable and stable solution would have been to divide Iraq into three sectors, Sunni, Shia, and Kurdish. Or is too "complex" for you to figure out? It's plain to me, and I was 18 in 1973 K3.

When you post on BellGab you are stepping out of your world and into ours.  You have every right to post your beliefs and I have the same right to offer a contrary view.  That's the deal here, Skippy, and you should know that by now. 

The Vietnam War was a cluster fuck for many reasons including the way it was fought.  Your boiling it down to the U.S having to save face shows that you are as ignorant as you are opinionated as does your comments about the Soviet Union's role in WWII. 

You lament past fuckups and the killing of Vietnamese and then tell us we should have decapitated the Russian military using nuclear weapons.   Of course that could be done surgically so that only the top tier party members would be taken out and average citizens wouldn't be harmed.  A first strike would no doubt prevent the Soviets from launching a retaliatory strike that would kill tens of millions of Europeans and Americans.

The major Allies (U.S., UK and France) had a combined total of 1,470,300 military and civilians killed in WWII while the Soviets lost over 26,000,000.  A total of 2,742,909 German troops were killed by the Reds as opposed to 534,683 killed by all other allies.  If you were capable of doing the math that would tell you that the Reds killed 4 out of 5 of all German KIA.

What do you suppose the Germans would have been doing if Hitler had not made the colossal blunder of invading Russia and had 2/3 of his total military strength bogged down for three years killing and being killed by Soviets.  If Russia had been knocked out of the war early instead of turning it around and driving the Germans back across their border they could have left a relatively small occupying force in the Soviet Union and brought the bulk of their forces to bear on the remaining Allies.   The Soviets had the Germans in retreat before D-Day.  Them's the facts Skippy.

How would you go about breaking Iraq into three separate Nations.  If you recall that has been considered.  Who gets the part of the Country with all the oil and who gets the arable land, mineral deposits and water.  Do you do all that by fiat or do you give the Iraqis
a say in the matter?  Who has the authority to break up a country anyway.  Tell us all about it. 

I wish I could derive the comfort you get from simple minded nonsensical solutions. 

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Politics / Re: The Vietnam War - Ken Burns 2017 PBS Series
« on: September 17, 2017, 10:18:26 PM »
I watched some of the first episode of this new PBS Series by Ken Burns.

The civil war in Vietnam was about ending colonialism. But, the US Elite was too butt hurt about losses in Korea and other "Cold War" issues to see that. They all worried about what would happen if Asia went Communist. I don't fucking care. That's Asia, and that's a world away. I'm not Asia's Daddy. If good 'ol Ike wanted to have dealt a real blow to Communism, then he could have launched a (Nuclear) first strike against Russia. But, somehow all of these Presidents were SUCKED into the "Global" thought of the bogus and failed workings of the "United Nations".

All those American lives lost in Nam because America wanted to "save face" for the "West".

Puppets !

I watched the first episode of Ken Burns series and it comports fairly well with my memory of the prelude to our involvement  in Vietnam.  How anyone who watched it and understood what was being said could so grossly oversimplify what were very complex geopolitical considerations and attribute the whole thing to the U. S. being butt hurt over losses in Korea is beyond me.  I've got to wonder how old you are and if you and I watched the same program. 

What really astounds me is your cavalier suggestion that if our leaders back then were serious about defeating communism they should have launched a nuclear first strike against Russia.  Please tell us how you think that would have turned out in terms of American casualties?

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Politics / Re: Random Political Thoughts
« on: September 14, 2017, 11:37:59 AM »
Brooms!  I want to see brooms attached to periscope shears. 


During World War II, American submarine crews, eager to showcase their many accomplishments, revived the practice. If a boat sank every target with which she engaged over the course of a patrol, the crew attached brooms to the periscope shears so their success, a “clean sweep,” was on display as they entered port.
In recent years, subs have displayed their clean-sweep brooms in a variety of contexts. When USS CHEYENNE (SSN-773), supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003, put all the TOMAHAWK missiles she launched on target without any duds or failures, her captain determined that that constituted a clean sweep. Other boats, such as USS OHIO (SSGN-726, after her conversion to a guided-missile boat) and USS VIRGINIA (SSN-774) have hoisted brooms after successful Alpha sea trials.
Perhaps the most unusual clean sweep was achieved in 2000 by the Military Sealift Command (MSC), which controls most of the Navy’s transport and replenishment ships. When the Y2K bug prowling through the command’s computers was finally vanquished, an MSC crewmember proudly hung a broom from the yardarm of the flagpole outside the command’s headquarters to celebrate the virtual clean sweep.

http://ussnautilus.org/blog/making-a-clean-sweep/



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Random Topics / Re: Hurricane Irma
« on: September 13, 2017, 12:55:52 AM »
Far be it from me to remind you to read their own disclaimer.

Based on this data, the existence of the state of Israel appears to be the single biggest contributor to the frequency and intensity of hurricanes.

Being a resident of SW Florida who just experienced Irma up close and personal, I can tell you that her behavior was definitely not Kosher.  Did you see what it did to portions of Florida's Gold Coast (West Palm Beach, Ft. Lauderdale, Miiami and environs) which of course is a traditional Jewish retirement Mecca.  No doubt it was an Islamic hurricane. 

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: September 12, 2017, 11:40:18 PM »
Nope...I certainly don't apologise. But neither am I taken in by a crook in the mafia mold who resides in the WH; Surrounding himself with only those who presumably kiss his ring and devotion for ever. A cry baby who has no sense of loyalty to anyone, not even those close to him. He's the Judas of 2017, throwing anyone and everyone under the bus if they look likely to point at him in their defence. His latest is Sater; the man he's pretending he hardly knew, but was the important bloke who did the groundwork for the Trump Tower that was proposed for Moscow.

So far seven of Trump's closest have met and initially denied meeting Russians in the run up, not illegal true, but of those, four didn't mention it on their security applications, and didn't mention it to the FBI, Kushner even got his secretary to fill it in for him! Twice. LOL

You carry on believing they're as pure as the driven snow if you want, but you'll be the one gasping in surprise when Mueller has finished. You'd have Trump as a sub skipper? You really think that cunt would protect his crew?


Fortunately for all of us, all instances of bad judgement and moral/ethical lapses are not crimes.  If they were I could have been put in the slammer more times than I would like to admit.  Isn't it interesting how much easier it is for one to condemn such behavior in those with whom one holds opposite viewpoints than it is ourselves and those with whom we agree.  Human nature?  Of course.  Gross hypocracy?  Absolutely. 

I and others who voted for Trump have openly criticized him in these threads and have pointed out where we think he and others on the right have fucked up.  I can't recall when you or several others who regularly post here have had anything to say of a critical nature about leftist's behaving badly or even committing crimes.  You limit your comments to Trump, his family, his associates and anyone on the right and those comments are invariably derisive, insulting and based mostly on superstition and folk lore.  You hoist yourself on the petard of your own overdone rhetoric.

How many times have you assured us that any and all of the most salacious reports about Trump and company were gospel.  You told us that Trump personally had colluded with the Russians to win the Presidency and gain financially.  The MSM has given up on the idea and you have changed the subject to unreported contact with a Russian lawyer on the one hand and a conversations between Flynn and a Russian diplomat that took place before Trump took office which was not in itself a crime.  I enjoy witnessing your continued hoping against hope that Mueller's investigation will result in Trump's downfall.  There very well could be indictments or non judicial sanctions forthcoming but I think you'll be very disappointed in the way things turn out.










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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: September 12, 2017, 07:47:02 PM »
Bannon can't stand Kushner, fortunately its mutual and Jared isn't overly enamored about the drunk either. Which must be a bit tiring for Ivanka..Daddy loves the drunk who loves daddy, but Jared loves daddy too...Can't daddy just make his boys love each other?  ???

I know you have no point of reference against which to gage this being from the U.K. and now living in the people's Republic of California and all, but to the ear of the average American male you sound more and more like a bitchy, effeminate gossip columnist.  You deal in the wildest speculation about the lives and character of people based on nothing but the most biased drivel you can find.  In fact, your record for being correct in your assessments is abysmal and declining by the day. 

It is one thing to have a visceral hatred for an individual and engage in fair criticism.  It is quite another to extend that hatred to everyone associated with that individual to the the point where you deny their basic worth and qualities as human beings.  You and others posting on BellGab who echo your sentiments have lost all sense of balance and decency in your judgements of those with beliefs and values that differ from yours.  On the positive side, you at least don't insult our intelligence by feigning any sort of objectivity as some do.  You are unapologetically hateful and apparently see it as no vice.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: September 05, 2017, 05:26:50 PM »
Yeah well, a bit of desultory googling ought to put you straight there.


Harold Wilson was not a Tory, desul or otherwise.  He was a Laborer.  Jeesh!

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: September 05, 2017, 12:30:33 PM »
I think what pud's asking is what, besides being self-responsible, is the Republican plan for health care? Damned if I know.  ???

What is the Democrat plan for fixing the ACA?  I've heard nothing but generalizations that involve throwing more $ at the problem.  I think a single payer plan is inevitable at this point but it won't be a conscious choice of the populace.  It will be a designed lurch into socialism by means of deception. 

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: September 05, 2017, 12:17:11 PM »
And your idea for 'socialised medicine' is? Taking into account that insurance companies/pharmaceutical companies and hospitals all currently have their own interests at heart. Their first concern is their own bottom line, not the health of patients..Incidentally, US healthcare is up to ten times more expensive than the next most expensive western health care provision.

I will guarantee you that adoption of a single payer system will neither reduce costs nor improve patient care in this Country.  The U.S. is not the U.K., France or Sweden (thank God.)  We value independence and personal choice. 


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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: September 05, 2017, 12:05:43 PM »
The Democrats aren't in office or have the houses...Where is the GOP answer seven years after saying they'd do away with ACA? There's no talk of modifying the problems with ACA, just an ideological eradication, which is great, but nothing in place to replace it.

We weren't talking about Obamacare but since you brought it up, passage of the ACA made the problem of providing healthcare to the masses more difficult by orders of magnitude.  It was sold by liars lying about its provisions which you lefties seem to think is okay. ( I am including a video of Jonathan Gruber's testimony to refresh your memory as to the working philosophy of those who created the obamanation ((spelling and pun intentional)) that Obamacare truly is.)

As I have written a number of times on this and other threads, I think those behind the ACA new full well that the ACA was destined to fail but pushed it through anyway to create a stepping stone to full-on socialized medicine.  It was and is a syndical manipulation that was passed on the basis of fraudulent claims.  Whatever the Reps do or don't do about it, the Dems own it.  But for the vote of one Trump-hating rino turncoat with a brain tumor, the first increment of replacement legislation would have passed. 


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