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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
« on: April 21, 2017, 09:28:33 PM » shut down beginning of this mo., slightly less than 3 mos. of oper'n.

Random Topics / Re: Weird Geographical Information
« on: April 14, 2017, 09:49:58 PM »
One might think that C2C folks and the like are a new phenomena but really our country was often founded, explored, or developed by zealots, crackpots, flim-flam artists, fundamentalists, crazies, drunks, and the like, in addition to the Founders etc (though some of them could be questionable even.) I love it. This stuff is nothing new and I hope it doesn't change (no violence or abuse though.)
That's why when I get a chance, I should get & read The Rogue Republic.  Maybe should combine it w a trip to today's Dominion of West Fla.  Like when I addressed a post card to my friend Nancy in Mich., "Upper Canada".

But I think I first want to get & read Continental Dash.  I figured the companion music to it should be Brian Eno's "Taking Tiger Mtn. (By Strategy)":

We climbed & we climbed, oh how we climbed, my how we climbed

Up the poles, of course.

Over the stars

Over, in the sense of "north of", the stars as in Stars & Stripes, i.e. north of the USA.

to top Tiger Mtn.

Which exists in Wash. state near the telegraph line.  There is no real Tiger Mtn. in China, although there is a Dragon & Tiger Mtn. there.

forcing the lines thru the snow.

Of course, the telegraph line thru the snow of Russian North America (now Alaska).

Radio and Podcasts / Re: Hated radio hosts/personalities
« on: April 12, 2017, 04:43:04 PM »
Is this about those we love to hate, or just those we think perform badly?  George Noory performs badly, and some find it fun to discuss how bad his shows get -- some Nooryisms are hilarious -- but does anyone enjoy hating him?

Random Topics / Re: Weird Geographical Information
« on: April 10, 2017, 11:24:23 AM »
As an aside, Leonora is somewhat famous for having a connection to Herbert Hoover.
I flew as a baby with Herbert Hoover.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
« on: April 09, 2017, 09:00:32 AM »
You just need a mic and a computer to do a podcast.

Why the need for this whole expensive live streaming setup? Why keep some bloated operation around if it is not making money?

If it is for the fans then why charge for archives to listen to Heather Wade?

Ok so the idea is we gotta take live calls..


Does needing to take live calls justify the huge expense of the entire bloated Dark Matter Network business?

Why can't Art just drop a podcast occasionally for his fans? Forget live calls. It would literally be free and Apple would pay for the hosting. Wouldn't be long before major advertisers came knocking. He could work with "Podcast One" or a similar company who knows what they are doing.

Surely that would have been better than this current situation with so many unhappy fans who not only felt duped by Sirius but were also feeling duped into supporting a network that now has a totally different person heading the flagship show.
Do we know that DMDN as a whole does not make $ as a streaming service?  Did it ever occur to you that the marginal cost of staying on 24/7, therefore having an overnight slot to fill, may be nil?  Or that "the flagship show" is now mostly filler on the schedule?  What station has its flagship show or talent overnight?  What movie house makes its $ chiefly on midnight shows?

You can get some idea of the cost of keeping a stream online by looking at the books of a not-for-profit foundation doing so.  I gave WFMU as an example a while back.  It may be a little hard to tease out the cost of an individual stream from their books, but it's not insuperable.  One of their services, the Give The Drummer Stream, is on 24/7 with a slowly increasing number of live-emceed programs (mostly DJs) and the rest a curated automated recorded music program; the live-emceed programs originate from various locations.  Donations to Auricle Communications support that alongside WFMU's broadcasting, streaming, and other projects.

Over this winter (they seem to have pulled the plug) there was , an advertising-supported project of The Newton [NJ] Theatre, that was run by former staff of a Centenary College station that was sold.  Largely it existed to promote the Theatre.  It was a 24/7 stream that was majority live DJ'd, the rest curated automated music, and they also originated at least one program for another streaming service that simul-streamed them.  The fact that they got off the ground shows it's not that expensive, but the fact that they stopped shows the costs of streaming aren't trivial.  They were in a storefront in downtown Newton.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: Missing Richard Simmons
« on: April 08, 2017, 09:51:29 PM »
Maybe he lost so much weight he disappeared.

Random Topics / Re: 2017 BellGab Awards - Best Use of a profile avatar
« on: April 08, 2017, 09:48:38 PM »
Am I the only one who appreciates the way Wolfie laughs at stuff posted here?

The video seems to show a dump truck or garbage truck, but the news people call it a beer truck. Do Swedes haul beer in a dump truck?
With taxes like they have, you hide the beer in anything.

Paranormal - Conspiracy - UFOs - Etc. / Re: The Mandela Effect
« on: April 06, 2017, 08:24:53 PM »
No. Your memory is correct. I remember the same thing. He went to the South Pole and had a heart attack. He was evacuated but died.
You sure you're not mixing him up w the doctor w breast ca?

I'll entertain the possibility that B.J. Snowden's song "Conspiracy" was correct.

Paranormal - Conspiracy - UFOs - Etc. / Re: The Mandela Effect
« on: April 02, 2017, 08:54:48 PM »
People had bad memories before.

Your hypothesis does nothing to address this fact.

transparent shell
Of course they had bad memories before, & they had the Mandela effect before.  They just called it something else, like confabulation.

Another example I recall from the show: Looney Tunes.  They were always spelled that way, one of a group of imitations of the Silly Symphonies sound cartoons with music, including Merrie Melodies.  (That's the one with the weird spelling; it was never "Merry".)  The spelling "Toons" that people have confabulated comes from Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, which popularized "toon" as an abbr. for "cartoon" -- a recent development, picked up for instance by the Steve Jackson role playing game Toon.  So it's really the "Toons" spelling that's recently been usurping the original & official spelling.

People imagine Cary Grant said, "Judy, Judy, Judy" because a particular mimic of him put that in his mouth because it sounded funny & allowed him to perseverate in exaggerating a particular of the actor's speech mannerisms.

Remember his bragging about his athletic prowess in school and and full-collegiate scholarship potential? How he "narrowly" missed out on that? Funny, Harvey S. Lowery High School in Dearborn, Michigan, no yearbook, no high-school newspaper "The Lowery Light" nor any of the weekly newspapers from 1965 to 1968 has a single mention of George Noory playing ANY sports. Nor was he listed on any team roster for the Polar Bears.
Did you try looking under "Dave"?

Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
« on: April 01, 2017, 07:22:01 PM »
As far as the talent issue well Keith treated many hosts like complete shit just for asking to be on his fledgling network.
Please name names.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: Art Bell
« on: March 31, 2017, 07:47:38 PM »
the "Dark Matter Network" accepted peoples money and turned down legitimate talent that would help grow the network.
I don't know much about Heather but it probably would have been better to just give Heather a show on the Network instead of having her be some kind of successor to Art. It is how they marketed her as Arts successor that has stifled her career due to the backlash of Art Bells hardcore fanbase. She simply couldn't live up to peoples expectations. Your talking about stepping into the shoes of a legend, its not exactly easy filling airtime and if she had proper guidance she would have built a show that hid her weaknesses.
That's interesting.  Ordinarily late night would be where you'd stick your weakest.  I do find most of the earlier-hours shows on DMDN better than MITD.  Maybe the problem is not the time slot, not the legacy that it's "Art Bell's show", but the total hours a week -- or maybe the number of co-hosts, her working solo while the better DMDN shows tend to be panel-hosted.

I've written here about how Jason Jarvis took over his mother Judy's show when she sickened & then died, after he'd been her producer.  He actually lasted a few yrs. as m.c.

Then again, who'd've thought that after Steve Allen quit, Tonight would go on so long?

Paranormal - Conspiracy - UFOs - Etc. / Re: The Mandela Effect
« on: March 30, 2017, 10:47:46 PM »
If the examples of Mandela effect are as the examples the guest who was recently on MITD said, then the Mandela effect is simply a matter of people's bad memories.  I always remembered it as "Magic mirror"; "Mirror, mirror" was probably the result of someone's duplication of a word when they couldn't remember what went there which people do all the time with songs.  Oscar Mayer wouldn't even be pronounced the same as Meyer.  And I don't even remember the other examples, but I recalled them the correct way as opposed to the consensus way.  So this is just some big tsimmes made from people's making likely confabulations to fill likely gaps in memory.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: Why do you still listen?
« on: March 28, 2017, 04:58:57 PM »
Daniel, at risk of exposing my creeping Rooneyism* I will say that 30 years ago the standards were as such that folks like Noory, Wade and Church wouldn't have lasted 2 weeks in a long form radio show. Noory came in as a wonky DJ and rose via the Peter Principle.  Church would have remained a sports reporter. Wade might have made ads for concert events and such.

Looking up to someone who can conduct an interview look to the folks at 60 minutes, like Mike Wallace. I would suspect he was one of Art's role models. And Wallace came into TV as a former radio guy.

BTW, this explains why so many here now gravitate to George Knapp. Hes got the experience of a real journalist, because he is.

*60 minutes curmedgeon - look up Andy Rooney on youtube and you'll see where we are all headed after middle age.
I'm past middle, my friend John's even older, & he says that indeed is why Knapp is good.

At the Junto yrs. ago I met a doctor who had a long story to tell, and who you could tell was frustrated by his inability to get much of an audience for this story, which was very long & detailed.  That's the problem: Most people aren't into long stories unless they seek them out; in casual situations they're not prepared for such a thing & would rather spend time hearing less about more than going into something that requires so much detail to understand.  Unfortunately I was in that position, and a lot of it went in 1 ear & out the other, but I'd like him to get more of an audience for his story.

It's a story of a conspiracy he uncovered that led to his having to leave medical practice.  The conspiracy involved not only the Richmond Co. Med'l Soc., but also state officials, a member of Congress, and highly placed officials in some other professions.  I tried to interest a friend, David Lindelof who was into theorizing about the JFK assassination, but David was only interested in conspiracies involving persons who were that prominent.  It's an awfully big world, and that makes me wonder whether lots of lesser conspiracies that may not involve a president but that do involve lesser persons and fairly large nos. of co-conspirators exist, along with many others that are suspected but either untrue or unprovable.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: Midnight In The Desert With Heather Wade
« on: March 26, 2017, 03:16:59 PM »
I think heather is growing as a talk show host

Paranormal - Conspiracy - UFOs - Etc. / Re: Joe Friday And The UFO's
« on: March 25, 2017, 09:27:12 AM »
I haven't had time to listen to much of it, but the opening is all "Dragnet" style. lol Thanks for digging this up!
I watched it 1st-run, & can tell you it's not just the opening, it's like they extended all of Dragnet into UFO investigation, like it was the new beat they were xferred to.  Episodes as formulaic as Bollywood cinema used to be.  Still somewhat fun.

Paranormal - Conspiracy - UFOs - Etc. / Re: The Mandela Effect
« on: March 25, 2017, 09:20:01 AM »
This probably is the silliest Mandela Effect topic I've seen yet.

Apparently some poor soul is thinking Georgian Bay just popped up out of nowhere.  I'm down with some Berenstein vs Berenstain Bears confusion but Georgian Bay?
Link's dead.  In some memories, was that dry land?  Or just unnamed?

Paranormal - Conspiracy - UFOs - Etc. / Re: The Mandela Effect
« on: March 25, 2017, 09:13:27 AM »
1st-birthday cake smashing.  I don't remember that having been a thing when I was little.  Then my Aunt Alice (but she was nuts) smashed her granddaughter's hand into her cake on her 1st birthday.  I was like, "Huh?!"  And Alice said, "Oh, like your mother didn't do that with you?"  I probably wouldn't've remembered that from when I was 1, though it wasn't in the movie of my party either, & I sure don't remember it with my little sister.  And now I see it all over the place, as if it was always the normal thing to do.

Random Topics / Re: Sex.
« on: March 25, 2017, 09:03:09 AM »
I can't believe this thread didn't get any love.
Would it be any more interesting have a bunch of people answer "no" to all the questions?

Radio and Podcasts / Re: Why do you still listen?
« on: March 25, 2017, 08:48:08 AM »
If you are sincere about understanding this, you should probably examine some of the things you quit listening too and never looked back on.
C2C would be one of those, but how about some other things?

For example, I don't watch or listen to basketball, and I haven't for something like 11 years. The tipping point for me was the organization of the game; I hate the last 30 minutes of commercials and free throws. I watched the Kings-Lakers playoffs in 2002 and felt the entire sport was rigged. So I just left and never came back.

I used to watch some world soccer with some friends, but after I moved and the friends were gone, I never watched or listened to soccer again.

Maybe C2C is like that for all of you, Art was your friend, and when your friend left you just lost all interest.

What are some of the things you have quit listening to, and what was the tipping point?
In my case the transitions are more subtle, and there's no tipping point, interest just gradually fades to nothing.

I practically never listen to a Noory-emceed show any more, but that's an easy choice for me, being in the Eastern time zone.  It was a special effort to either stay up or wake up, so it's been very easy to go back to my old sleeping habits.  I'm not naturally a night person the way many of my friends are.  Neither is the housemate I moved in here with 6 mos. ago.  For that reason I wind up not listening to Knapp either, even though in some cases I try.

I can recall long-running TV series I gradually lost interest in.  Simpson cartoons would be an obvious example.  Married With Children was another; the interesting episodes became few enough that it stopped being worthwhile watching regularly.  A starker example was Smallville, a show that should've had a limited run anyway; I was engrossed in it when Gough & Millar were writing it at the beginning, but as their role became more distant it became less interesting, although I didn't really stop watching until some time in the 4th season IIRC.  I was shocked to learn years later that Smallville was still running.

Football's an interesting case.  I stopped being a fan or watching as a mere spectator some time after I started coaching.  It didn't happen right away, took a few years.

In none of these cases was there ever a point I could see as decisive.  Usually there's something good to start with, or a taste that waxes over time, & then it becomes habitual, carrying on from momentum as the rewards become sparser.

Paranormal - Conspiracy - UFOs - Etc. / Re: What do you believe in?
« on: March 20, 2017, 10:12:28 AM »
I believe our perception of breaking out the bbq in the summer should be turned to spring, fall, or winter instead. Something is very wrong with us associating bbq's with summer months.
Why would it be better associated w non-summers?

So let me get this straight: Because a radio m.c., wanting to make his show more intimate, gave out personal info as part of the show, although most of that personal info was intrinsically as banal as that of anyone else's life, and could even make some of it interesting because he's a good talker; therefore people are still interested in developments in such personal details over a year since he did his last show, and not even details that'd been left as cliffhangers at that time?

Paranormal - Conspiracy - UFOs - Etc. / Re: Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK
« on: March 17, 2017, 09:39:51 AM »
Again?  I thought they were both dead.  That's some grudge!

What about moose?

I got to know Gen. Bert Stubblebine (lampooned as Hopgood in that movie, of which I've seen no more of than this teaser) toward the end of his life.  He said he'd never want to hurt a goat, BTW.

Come to think of it, he's not the only figure investigating the paranormal whom I came to know toward the end of his life who was a point of departure for a portrayal in a major feature film; there was also John Keel -- John Klein & Alexander Leek in The Mothman Prophecies.

Random Topics / Re: Random Food/Beverages On Your Mind
« on: March 02, 2017, 09:32:42 PM »
After success at baked rice pudding, I decided, fuck the recipes, I'm going to make noodle pudding same as if it were rice pudding.  It was only so-so hot, but after chilling overnight it was very good.  I should post about it to .

I heard Jorch gushing over experimenting with Carnivora on cats.  I envisioned Jorch's cat ladies rushing to place orders.  "Here kitty, kitty!  Come get your Carnivora!"
Cats are Carnivora.

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