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Well... your "if, then" logic is actually just anecdotal and arbitrary, but what I hear most clearly is another long-winded case of butthurt.

I'm not what you are referring to of my logic that is 'just anecdotal and arbitrary.'  It is a matter of record that Bill Clinton was defeated for reelection in 1980, it is a matter of record that abortion was legalized in 1973, it is a matter of record that Barack Obama was a State Senator before getting elected to the United States Senate  and it is a matter of record that Osama Bin Laden rose to prominence long before Bill Clinton became President.

If you believe you can make a case that Cahn's claims based on his timeline can still fit, then present the argument, but all of these things completely contradict his timeline.

As to 'butthurt' I am completely aware that there are brain-dead Republican cultists such as yourself who are only capable of repeating mindless chants such as that.

On Jonathan Cahn last night.
Several things Cahn has said are just factually wrong. 
1.Abortion in the U.S was legalized in 1973.
2.Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas from 1979-1981 and then from 1983-1992.  He was defeated for reelected in 1980.

So, Cahn might claim that Clinton was also Arkansas Attorney General from 1977-1979. But, Cahn said Clinton was a 'national figure.'
If Clinton was a 'national figure' as Arkansas Attorney General, then Barack Obama was as much a national figure as a State Senator.
So, either way Cahn's claims of the timelines don't work.  Also, Osama Bin Laden also long predated President Clinton.

In terms of his opinions, I think Cahn's claims that Trump was elected to 'drain the swamp' is laughable, Trump clearly ran to get as much for himself and his family as possible.  Also, Cahn's claiming that the U.S was founded as a moral nation when the U.S had slavery.... I can't think of too many things more immoral than slavery.  If Cahn doesn't believe slavery is immoral, well, I can understand that a person who doesn't think slavery is immoral would be a supporter of President Trump.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 16, 2017, 03:23:05 AM »
The guy who claims that Stephen King killed John Lennon called in again tonight (Nori wasn't hosting.) I think this was the first time that he has called in in years. I'm sure he's tried to get through before though.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 15, 2017, 06:32:26 PM »
This oil may be the fuel of the volcanos ... ?

Well, you could ask George about that, but there are a number of (mostly) Russian geologists who promote the abiotic oil 'theory' or, at least, that George Noory has been told that there are Russian geologists who promote this.  And the reason I gave is the reason Noory argues.  Jerome Corsi in his book 'Black Gold Stranglehold' argued something like 'geologists really know that oil is abiotic, but they're paid by the oil companies and part of their pay is for them to keep quiet about this.'  And I remember very well that Noory asked him and other guests on the topic "Since the earth needs to lubricate itself with this oil, is there a danger from removing too much oil from the earth before it can replenish itself?"

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 15, 2017, 06:26:03 PM »
Друг. Когда я заплаченный Вы для секса, Вы обещали держать все мои тайны и я обещал не говорить вашим друзьям, что ваша мать облизывала мой задний проход только, чтобы являться на вкус после эффектов хорошего борща.

According to google translator that means "Friend. When I paid you for sex, you promised to keep all my secrets and I promised not to tell your friends that your mother licked my anus just to taste after the effects of a good borsch." (I assume that should be 'taste the after effects.')

It wouldn't surprise me if that's a code phrase that the FSB uses.  You don't have to be an FSB disinformation agent to know that Putin likes it when mothers lick his anus or that Putin is so arrogant that he doesn't mind having FSB code phrases cracked in order to let mothers know that he likes it when they lick his anus.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 15, 2017, 04:22:43 PM »
Yeah...sure...let us know how that all works out.  ::)

That could depend on the results of the 2016 midterms.

However, you'd also better watch out, it seems Trump may be steadily morphing into President Obama:

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 15, 2017, 04:15:36 PM »
And for those wanting a story from September 9
$100K on Facebook Ads Could Go a Long Way

September 9, 2017 at 1:07 pm EDTBy Taegan Goddard53 Comments
Kevin Bingle: “One common response to the news that a Kremlin-linked online operation in Russia bought $100,000 worth of Facebook ads during the 2016 election campaign has been that the money is a drop in the bucket relative to the more than $1 billion spent on ads during the cycle, or the $27 billion in revenue earned by Facebook last year.”

“But as one of a handful of Americans who managed the digital operations of a 2016 presidential campaign, I think $100,000 smartly spent on Facebook could have a much larger reach than you may realize. And more importantly, nobody — not the political pros, or the advertising gurus — truly knows how far a message spreads when Facebook is paid to promote it. The social network still contains many mysteries, even to those pouring millions into it.”

So, yesterday was actually the first day in at least a week where there has not been a story on the Mueller investigation, the Trump campaign's collusion with Russia or, at least, Russian involvement in the U.S Presidential election on behalf of Trump.

Also, since this story came out, Facebook has since admitted that the $100,000 figure was a complete guess, but a minimum figure, and the actual amount spent by Russia could be much higher (or maybe not.)

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 15, 2017, 04:13:29 PM »
And before those:
Russian Politician Admits Russia ‘Stole’ U.S. Election

September 11, 2017 at 2:41 pm EDTBy Taegan Goddard113 Comments
Vyacheslav Nikonov,  a member of the Russian parliamentary body, said on Russian television that U.S. intelligence “missed it when Russian intelligence stole the president of the United States,” The Hill reports.

Nikonov was making the point about the superiority of Russia’s intelligence services over U.S. regarding knowledge of North Korea, Afghanistan and Syria.

Priebus and McGahn Lawyer Up

September 10, 2017 at 6:02 pm EDTBy Taegan Goddard25 Comments
Former White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and current White House Counsel Don McGahn have both hired white collar lawyer William Bruck, Law360 reports.

Mueller Will Soon Interview White House Staffers

September 8, 2017 at 4:13 pm EDTBy Taegan Goddard87 Comments
Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team is planning to interview “up to a dozen” White House aides in the coming weeks, Politico reports.

The Washington Post says Mueller wants to interview six aides “including trusted adviser Hope Hicks, former press secretary Sean Spicer and former chief of staff Reince Priebus.”

“In addition to Priebus, Spicer and Hicks, Mueller has notified the White House he will probably seek to question White House counsel Don McGahn and one of his deputies, James Burnham. Mueller’s office has also told the White House that investigators may want to interview Josh Raffel, a White House spokesman who works closely with Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner.”

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 15, 2017, 04:09:08 PM »
For instance:
Mueller Probe Has ‘Red-Hot’ Focus on Social Media

September 13, 2017 at 2:33 pm EDTBy Taegan Goddard55 Comments
“Russia’s effort to influence U.S. voters through Facebook and other social media is a ‘red-hot’ focus of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into the 2016 election and possible links to President Trump’s associates,” Bloomberg reports.

“Mueller’s team of prosecutors and FBI agents is zeroing in on how Russia spread fake and damaging information through social media and is seeking additional evidence from companies like Facebook and Twitter about what happened on their networks.”

“The ability of foreign nations to use social media to manipulate and influence elections and policy is increasingly seen as the soft underbelly of international espionage… because it doesn’t involve the theft of state secrets and the U.S. doesn’t have a ready defense to prevent such attacks.”

Flynn’s Son Now a Target of Russia Probe

September 13, 2017 at 12:56 pm EDTBy Taegan Goddard26 Comments
“Michael G. Flynn, the son of President Trump’s former national security adviser, is a subject of the federal investigation into Russian meddling in the presidential election and possible collusion between Moscow and the Trump campaign,” NBC News reports.

“The inquiry into Flynn is focused at least in part on his work with his father’s lobbying firm, Flynn Intel Group… It’s unclear when the focus on Flynn began.”

“Mueller has brought onto his team a federal prosecutor known for convincing subjects to turn on associates. Any potential criminal liability for Michael G. Flynn could put added pressure on his father.”

Mueller Going For the Kill

September 12, 2017 at 7:25 am EDTBy Taegan Goddard157 Comments
Mike Allen reports that special counsel Robert Mueller “is burrowing in hard on the obstruction of justice angle.”

“Republicans close to the White House say every sign by Mueller — from his hiring of Mafia and money-laundering experts to his aggressive pursuit of witnesses and evidence — is that he’s going for the kill.”

“Trump allies fret that the White House is ill-prepared for the public showdown with Mueller that will eventually come, and should be making legal, political and constitutional arguments for the president’s right to fire Comey. Statements by Trump lawyers tend to rattle, rather than reassure, White House allies.”

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 15, 2017, 04:03:19 PM »
Didn't they get you the memo either?! You guys are off Russia now. You're supposed to call him a racist now.  ::)

This is a perfect example of poor math comprehension.  You are attempting to create a false binary.  Believe me, the Mueller probe is continuing and Russia and the Trump campaign's collusion with it, is still in the news, and will soon be much more in the news.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 15, 2017, 03:58:18 PM »
Very easy to understand that you have troubles with numbers.

You're good at numerical computation, but you're terrible at numerical comprehension.  Also, you're an FSB disinformation agent.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 15, 2017, 03:27:38 PM »
I love when Jorch says I just believe in the abeeotic theory of oil that the Earth produces oil as part of it's natural process. Always has and always will. without ever explaining why, like he was picking a favorite sports team or something.  ::)

He actually has explained why the Earth does it but not how it does it.  His belief is that the Earth needs to creates these fluids in order for the tectonic plates to be able to move.  This is why he also worries what effect there might be if too much oil is removed from the Earth at any one time.  George has specifically said "the Earth needs to lubricate itself."

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 15, 2017, 03:24:46 PM »
I used to give it a go.  However he is on my list of guests to never listen to.  Along with Ed Dames, Doc Wallett (plus any of his ilk), the 'numbers lady', et al.  Too many to list.  ;)

Sometimes one is curious, so no worries.  :D

Yes, the 'numbers lady' Glynnis McCants (or something like that) literally makes me feel sick to the stomach when I listen to her for more than a couple minutes.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 15, 2017, 06:35:33 AM »
I went for about 15 minutes before turning off Bruce Goldberg.

If anybody was as stupid as I was to listen to this idiot, he mentioned some supposed proof of parallel universes based on a story of a person who was in a Japanese airport in 1954 and had a signed passport from a non-existent country named Taured.

This is what one good factchecker on reddit wrote about this story:
I'd like to see some better documentation of this, it's a great story, but how about some references to something like a Tokyo newspaper from 1954?
I'll add this bit to my comment:
Just a story? The story appeared in the book “The Directory of Possibilities”, Colin Wilson & John Grant [Corgi Paperback, 1982. ISBN: 0-552-119946].
No one knows for certain if this was a factual account. No documents or newspaper clippings exist other than what was written by Colin Wilson and John Grant.
Without any other proof than that, this is nothing but a sci-fi story.

This is what a person on Yelp wrote about Bruce Goldberg.  Obviously I don't know if it's true or not, but I thought it was pretty funny:

I don't usually write negative reviews but this guy sure deserves it. I am a radio producer and we were about to have him on our show to talk about his practice, plus time travel, parallel dimensions. Needless to say it didn't work out. He was extremely rude, narcissistic and was on the verge of verbal assault. All because he probably didn't take the time to read our emails that would have prepared him for a simple easy going conversation. I've worked with a lot of intelligent and wonderful people. This guy happens to be the worst and I strongly urge everyone to stay away from him. If you don't get the hint from all of his reviews already. I hope the best for all of you. If I could give him zero stars I would.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 15, 2017, 05:45:04 AM »
I'm pretty sure George just called regular caller (too regular) Cornelius "Corglius"

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 15, 2017, 05:37:06 AM »
What Noory says: "No, you can't prevent change."

What Noory would say if he tried to be consistent: "No, you can't prevent change...except for the truck drivers, who should be protected from losing their jobs to driver-less trucks."

You'd think that Noory would at least remember what he's said previously when it comes to pandering to his listeners.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 15, 2017, 03:35:16 AM »
Oh goody another financial advisor... as the show sinks deeper into the mundane.

I was at some discussion today where I was reminded that there was some research that came out a few years ago that suggests that the mind reacts to information a split second or so before it actually sees that information.  Not that Noory is exactly the host I want asking questions about these things, and maybe that research hasn't gone anywhere since, but I don't think he's had credible guests discussing consciousness in years.  The closest he gets these days is morons like Bruce Goldberg.

I'm sure I've posted this link before, but maybe it's time to do so again. For anybody interested in some of the things that Coast to Coast used to get serious guests on to discuss, you might prefer the Australian Broadcast Company's program All in the Mind.

Three of their most recent episodes which can be either listened to on their site or downloaded for podcasting:
1.Contemplating Consciousness
We contemplate the nature of consciousness with a philosopher, a neuroscientist and a Buddhist scholar.

2.Racial bias and the brain
Racism can be blatant and violent but often it's subtle & insidious. We explore the psychology and neuroscience of racial bias.

3.the enigma of time
When we’re bored time drags, and wouldn’t you swear that time seems to speed up as you get older? Drawing on the latest insights from psychology and neuroscience we explore the mystery of time perception, it’s connection to our sense of self and how we could be the architect of our own perception of time.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 14, 2017, 05:54:10 PM »
Yeah but it makes for the best horror movies.  ;)

The original Omen series was much better than the lame remake.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 14, 2017, 05:01:20 PM »
The funniest part was when he said Trump had Alzheimers, then proceeded to repeatedly lose his train of thought to the point Noory had to prompt him

Except he didn't initially say that Trump had Alzheimer's.  He said that he thought it was possible that "Trump had a stroke, like I had.  Which is why I lose my train of thought sometimes."  After George asked him if he thought Trump had a stroke, the guest then replied "I don't know what specifically, he could have Alzheimer's"

From the guest's description though, I think it's far more likely the guest had a mini-stroke or a "transient ischemic attack" (TIA.)

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 14, 2017, 01:44:16 AM »
Based on that, not only do you believe the Revelation refers to the present as well, you have candidates for the roles picked out.

I'm wondering who  the last president is to not have been considered the Antichrist by someone..

Except the Bible makes it clear that there will be at the time of Revelation that there will be many pseudo Christians who will believe that the AntiChrist is some great person and I can't see any more obvious parallel than the pseudo Christian religious right who find Trump to be some great hero.

Of course, there is a parallel to that with George W Bush as well, but I'm not sure who his False Prophet would have been.  Mike Pence is about as obvious a False Prophet as there can be.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 14, 2017, 12:58:30 AM »
The first edition of Hal Lindsey's Late Great Planet Earth was written in 1968, not 1988.  In the first edition Lindsey claims that either Jesus will have returned by 1988 or that, at the very least, the AntiChrist and his False Prophet will have returned by 1988 and the seven year period will have begun.

At the end of the book, Lindsey states that he is only a man and can't be certain of his interpretation, but this is contradicted by him saying a number of times throughout the book essentially 'every previous interpretation of Revelation is wrong but my interpretation is 100% correct.'

I can sympathize with the guest believing that these events in Revelation refer to the present because I think it's fairly obvious that President Trump is the AntiChrist and Mike Pence is his False Prophet, however, we now know that Noory won't let any guest say that or make any negative comment about President Trump.

The verse in Revelation makes it pretty clear that apocalypse refers to some specific mountain peak, and I believe the word apex is derived from apocalypse.  There is apparently some debate whether the apocalypse is where the  prophesies were revealed but that Apocalypse also refers to these events of this 7 year period or whether this seven year period is referred to as the Tribulation.

I posted some of these comments on twitter on the Coast to Coast website and after that the guest started mentioning the Tribulation, but I'm pretty sure that is just a coincidence, and not a coincidence as the idiot Noory means.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 13, 2017, 01:05:59 PM »
Numbers! Where ya been? What was GH right about?

I'm busy and I come and go.  I've been more active tweeting on Noory's twitter site.

This article doesn't state the lengths to which Hancock's idea was dismissed even though Hancock's research used the same methodology that was later used to confirm his idea.

Of course, this one idea being verified does not mean that Hancock's more literally out there views are accurate.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: September 13, 2017, 12:58:01 PM »
Some research that Graham Hancock did that was dismissed because he wasn't part of the scientific establishment has since been verified by the scientific establishment.  I forget the details, but it's good that he was in good health to see himself be vindicated, at least in the one area.

Nobody commented on this, with the Time Tracks guest, Noory all but confirmed that despite his lies about being 'politically neutral' no guest is allowed to say anything negative about President Trump.  Noory's head is indeed 100% up his Trump.

Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: August 01, 2017, 12:09:21 AM »
A vicious comment by George at the start of today's show.  He said that some longtime listener had died but that he expected her to be listening 'on the other side.'  Why does George think this longtime listener has gone to Hell?

Radio and Podcasts / Re: Richard Syrett
« on: July 31, 2017, 03:21:55 AM »
nooo,  your biggest claim to fame is here on Bellgab, wishing last year 21stCenturyWoMan to die in severe pain... lol :)

Shalom... ;)

And all the best to you :)

Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: July 31, 2017, 03:15:48 AM »
well, maybe slowly I can win you over ;)

but besides being clever it has chance to become reality.
do you ever think about that possibility ?
wouldn't that be swell.
you know that song by your country man Leonard Cohen - "Democracy"
When Hilary gets sentenced to prison you will know for sure that DEMOCRACY come to the USA :)
I hope 136/142 that you are also wishing for DEMOCRACY to come to The USA. 

If Hillary Clinton broke a law to which a common person would go to jail, then, yes, I think she should go to jail.  I agree that wealthy and powerful people are clearly protected in the United States (and many other western democracies) from facing the consequences of their actions in ways that average people aren't. Whether Hillary Clinton broke any such law is where you and I disagree.  You obviously think she has, I haven't seen any evidence so far that suggests she has.

I add to this, there are many things that if committed by a common person, it would be a crime, but when the same type of action is committed by a wealthy person (or on behalf of a wealthy person) it frequently isn't a crime.  For instance, one of the reasons no banker went to jail for the mortgage fraud is that, the type of fraud they committed is actually not illegal (maybe if it was done over more than one state it would have been a crime), and beyond that, frequently not even subject to a civil law suit.  There was one absolutely bizarre case where a judge ruled that fraud was not fraud because the victim did not ask the person who committed the fraud if they were committing fraud. 

Even given this, and I know that this is where Albrecht and I part on Hillary Clinton, I still haven't seen any evidence that Hillary Clinton did anything that would have been a crime if the common person had done a similar thing. 

So, to get back to a discussion I had with Dr MD MD on a different thread: a nation that protects the wealthy from receiving penalties that, were it committed by a common person would result in them going to jail is an oligarchy.  However, that doesn't mean that every wealthy person is an oligarch.  In the United States, it seems pretty clear to me that the super rich have, in general, bought the politicians to ensure that they don't go to jail, and, increasingly, that they don't have to pay taxes.

Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: July 31, 2017, 02:41:03 AM »
hey 136/142
how you like this clever post of mine ;)

I don't agree with the sentiment obviously, but I thought it was clever.

Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: July 31, 2017, 02:40:29 AM »
Yes, that's why I wrote "and later defend."  The Chinese Emperor ordered all the opium that could be found to be confiscated and sunk.  I believe he personally inspected the destruction of the opium,

Just to complete this.  I believe the immediate cause of the first Opium War was the Chinese impounded a British ship carrying opium and confiscated all their opium without compensation and then sunk the opium.  The shady businessmen behind the British opium business roused up the British press to rouse up the British public and the British Parliament decided to punish China by bombing some of the port cities and destroying some Chinese navy vessels.  The peace accord was what PB reported with the addition that the British company was allowed to continue selling opium in China.

Ultimately the loss of the two Opium Wars and the presence of non-Chinese in China roused up the Chinese population and led to the rather bizarre Boxer Rebellion.  I forget the specific reason behind this name, but it had something to do with the belief that went around China that if they did something, they couldn't be killed by guns and bullets. 

I'm even more hazy on the Chinese history after this, but I know that sometime after this rebellion, a number of European nations wanted to carve up and colonize China in the same way that they had previously done to much of Africa and Asia but that some American intervention prevented them from doing so.

It really is kind of sad.  China was so far ahead of the rest of the world by around 1420 when the Emperor at that time ordered the entire nation to turn inward and forget about science and trade (or 'discovery.')  As far as I know, the reasons he ordered this aren't fully understood, but this essentially caused China to go into a 400-500 year self imposed dark ages.  The documents from the Chinese Emperor at the time of the First Boxer Rebellion are very clear that the Chinese expected to easily repel any British retaliation and they were shocked at the weaponry and the ships that the British possessed. 

I'd think it's hard to imagine what it must have been like for them having to go from believing that China was 'all under Heaven' to realizing that it had essentially become a large but backwards nation.

Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: July 31, 2017, 02:29:17 AM »
This is a VBFD.  Hey 136, how do you like them apples? 🍎 

Seems like nothing more than silly politics to me.

 As far as I know, a Special Prosecutor (or whatever title Mueller has, I know he doesn't have the same title or the exact same authority that Ken Starr had) is needed for a President because a President isn't prosecuted like a private citizen.  The Congressional impeachment/conviction process was set up for a President under the Constitution.  The people mentioned in this, James Comey, Hillary Clinton... are all private citizens and if there are criminal allegations against them,  I don't see why the procedures that are used against every other private citizen can't be followed in these cases. 

I can just see you creating a diorama of this event with your G.I. Joe figures collection and egg cartons cut out to look like little desks and podiums.

Quick: Why did the Dallas Police Department let Ruby kill Oswald?

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