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Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #210 on: December 17, 2016, 02:01:14 PM »
I think the cloudseeding, at least as I know, is over a relatively small area when compared to some of our droughts which are vast. The cost might be prohibitive or the technology isn't advanced enough to cover such a large area?
http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=6837140
www.wmo.int/pages/prog/arep/cas/documents/CAS-MG3_Doc_4-5_WeaModif.pdf
http://asicolorado.com/weathermod.html

We have so many parts of the country with too much water (like in the upper midwest there is almost always flooding once the ice dams and ice melts in spring. Or here in Texas where we have a drought and then a week of flooding etc.) I think we should be building more retention facilities, canals, or even pipelines to store water or move water from areas with a lot of it to parched regions, instead of simply drilling deeper and depleting aquifers faster than they can be replenished.

Thanks for the links.  :D  I have no doubts that we are researching ways to modify the weather but it would seem that success in doing so is another thing altogether.  Maybe we can induce a cloud already predisposed towards rain to increase the totals but anything beyond that is highly unlikely.  And what's the point in seeding clouds if you can't affect a large area?

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #211 on: December 17, 2016, 02:35:01 PM »
it would seem that success in doing so is another thing altogether.

It doesn't seem that way to me. I don't think your point is clear here.

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #212 on: December 17, 2016, 04:04:32 PM »
Thanks for the links.  :D  I have no doubts that we are researching ways to modify the weather but it would seem that success in doing so is another thing altogether.  Maybe we can induce a cloud already predisposed towards rain to increase the totals but anything beyond that is highly unlikely.  And what's the point in seeding clouds if you can't affect a large area?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Popeye
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/aug/30/sillyseason.physicalsciences
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cumulus
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1516880.stm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Hatfield
http://www.voiceofsandiego.org/topics/news/the-mother-of-all-floods/
Burt Lancaster and Katherine Hepburn was in a movie loosely based on Hatfield: The Rainmaker
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049653/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2




Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #213 on: December 17, 2016, 04:57:25 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Popeye
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/aug/30/sillyseason.physicalsciences
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cumulus
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1516880.stm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Hatfield
http://www.voiceofsandiego.org/topics/news/the-mother-of-all-floods/
Burt Lancaster and Katherine Hepburn was in a movie loosely based on Hatfield: The Rainmaker
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049653/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

Yeah, I've got the movie in my collection but haven't watched it yet.  I guess I assume it's about a con but who knows.  American Indians had rain dances and maybe there was something to them.  I'm more open to the idea that there have been supernatural causes for rain occasionally.  Not dissimilar to stories of the sky raining rocks down on the ground.  Who knows? As for Project Cumulus, the wiki entry says there was nothing to it but we know wiki doesn't necessarily tell the truth. I'm open to the idea but I'm extremely skeptical.

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #214 on: December 17, 2016, 05:00:16 PM »
but I'm extremely skeptical.

If you were "extremely skeptical" you would have done basic research before now. I'm calling shenanigans.

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #215 on: December 17, 2016, 05:13:34 PM »
Yeah, I've got the movie in my collection but haven't watched it yet.  I guess I assume it's about a con but who knows.  American Indians had rain dances and maybe there was something to them.  I'm more open to the idea that their have been supernatural causes for rain occasionally.  Not dissimilar to stories of the sky raining rocks down on the ground.  Who knows? As for Project Cumulus, the wiki entry says there was nothing to it but we know wiki doesn't necessarily tell the truth. I'm open to the idea but I'm extremely skeptical.
From what I recall the movie was more of a romance but, yes, a con was involved.

Here is the Senate stuff investigating Popeye, Stormfury, and etc:
http://www.vietnam.ttu.edu/star/images/239/2390601002C.pdf
Here is the former Air Force squadron who did the seeding:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/54th_Weather_Reconnaissance_Squadron
Rich but small countries like the UAE is cloud seeding to get more rain:
http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/environment/uae-looking-at-ways-to-increase-rain-1.1444145
http://www.wateronline.com/doc/uae-s-rain-enhancement-program-addresses-key-technical-challenges-0001

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #216 on: December 17, 2016, 05:24:00 PM »
From what I recall the movie was more of a romance but, yes, a con was involved.

Here is the Senate stuff investigating Popeye, Stormfury, and etc:
http://www.vietnam.ttu.edu/star/images/239/2390601002C.pdf
Here is the former Air Force squadron who did the seeding:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/54th_Weather_Reconnaissance_Squadron
Rich but small countries like the UAE is cloud seeding to get more rain:
http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/environment/uae-looking-at-ways-to-increase-rain-1.1444145
http://www.wateronline.com/doc/uae-s-rain-enhancement-program-addresses-key-technical-challenges-0001

The UAE articles are interesting and gel with my thoughts on where we are at currently regarding cloud-seeding.  I can see us enhancing rain totals in the near future but as the article suggests only certain kinds of clouds work for such an operation.  That is a long way from actually greatly affecting the weather and combating droughts though. I'll have to check out the first link later as that is quite lengthy.

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #217 on: December 17, 2016, 05:28:57 PM »
my thoughts [...] we are [...]  I can see us




It doesn't matter what you imagine to be possible. What is fact is that the drought has been square for the better part of a decade.

Pretending this didn't happen isn't skepticism.

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #218 on: December 17, 2016, 05:36:30 PM »



It doesn't matter

Pretending



You pick 2 days where the patterns are similar.   I can do that too.  It is funny how you focused on that specific area of the Pacific.  That is right where the water is extraordinarily warm probably due to underwater volcanoes.  Maybe that has something to do with where the storms are going.

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #219 on: December 17, 2016, 06:00:16 PM »
You pick 2 days where the patterns are similar.


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« Reply #220 on: December 17, 2016, 06:52:15 PM »
If Bush could guide Katrina to New Orleans' 9th Ward a decade ago, Obama can cause global warming and winter storms now.

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #221 on: December 17, 2016, 11:49:53 PM »

Spy satellites reveal Himalayan melt.

 www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-38307176
Apparently they used older kh-9 Hexagon satellite photos to construct 3-d models of the glaciers in the area.  The optics of these birds was amazing.  Just imagine what the newer KH-11 birds can do.

be sure to include a cod piece when sunbathing.

peace
Hog

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #222 on: December 18, 2016, 12:21:23 AM »
You pick 2 days states where the patterns are similar.   I can do that too.  It is funny how you focused on that specific area of the Pacific hemisphere.




Anyone else have a state request?

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #223 on: December 18, 2016, 02:05:04 PM »
Pacific Rim activity for the last 7 days.

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« Reply #224 on: December 18, 2016, 02:15:25 PM »
Pacific Rim activity for the last 7 days.

This quake occurred AFTER my previous post. :o
And again.  Went of from 5.0 to 5.5.

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #225 on: December 18, 2016, 02:22:39 PM »
Last 7 day.  Latest was about 5 minutes ago.

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #226 on: December 18, 2016, 02:36:43 PM »
Then, there is this.

Lithosphere emitting "alien signal" | Detected around the world.  12.18.16.





Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #229 on: December 20, 2016, 12:30:02 PM »
And while we're on the subject, I find the notion that the Sahara Desert developed "naturally" to be utterly farcical--but that's really a topic for another thread.

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #230 on: December 22, 2016, 02:16:20 AM »
Video of snow falling in the Sahara.



Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #232 on: December 22, 2016, 02:21:22 PM »
It snowed in Miami two days before Jimmy Carter was sworn in as president.

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #233 on: December 22, 2016, 09:52:39 PM »
I'll see you.

http://www.euronews.com/2015/09/10/italy-s-glaciers-melting-at-alarming-pace

http://www.euronews.com/2015/09/10/italy-s-glaciers-melting-at-alarming-pace

I don't deny that many glaciers are melting but I do doubt the cause for such melting coming from man.  I  whole-heartedly believe in climate change.  The climate has been changing for millions of years.

Oh but just to counter your point.



http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/videos/growing-glacier/



http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2012/05/14/udas-himalayan-glaciers-climate-debate.cnn

Yes, many of these videos still assert that man-made climate change may be causing these glaciers to grow but my point is that many glaciers are still growing.

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #234 on: December 22, 2016, 10:21:13 PM »
it can't happen soon enough.....


Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #235 on: December 22, 2016, 10:23:00 PM »
Something for the alarmists to chew on.



Nice discussion about the Great Barrier Reef on the next discussion



Watch the whole thing and particularly the bit about what the 97% of climate scientists agree on which I would agree with.  Yes we have some influence on the climate but it is very, very small fraction of 1 degree Celsius.


Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #236 on: December 23, 2016, 03:56:47 AM »
Yes we have some influence on the climate but it is very, very small fraction of 1 degree Celsius.

That's really just your opinion--which at this point is really no longer credible.

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #237 on: December 23, 2016, 10:38:08 AM »
Hmm, saw this in the opening scenes of a movie once.  Are you seeing this Art?
Whatever you stand is, you'll have to admit, the photography in this video is stunning.

Antarctic Continent is Splitting in Half- Strange Events Detected Worldwide


Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #238 on: December 23, 2016, 02:30:50 PM »
That's really just your opinion--which at this point is really no longer credible.

And that is really just your opinion.  LOL. I'll leave it to others to decide whether it is credible or not.

Re: The Ongoing Climate and Weather Debate including General Weather News
« Reply #239 on: December 23, 2016, 03:38:19 PM »
I'll leave it to others to decide whether it is credible or not.


As to what happens to the radiation of the water molecule when it evaporates, I'm not sure.


As you wish.