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Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #42990 on: April 20, 2017, 01:46:32 AM »
Last time I looked, we had troops in more of them than he does. He has them in Crimea.  What did I miss?

albrecht's post I replied to. Basically let Trump be Trump and Putin be Putin

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #42991 on: April 20, 2017, 01:48:28 AM »
Last time I looked, we had troops in more of them than he does. He has them in Crimea.  What did I miss?
Which was historically,  in modern times, Russian and the people, even Cossacks voted overwhelmingly to go Russian. But votes only matter in some cases, despite the UN Charter. Note how at roughly same time Scotland was allowed, but heaven forbid Catalan, The Flemish, Basques, Kurds, and then we get into the various Ossesstia, stans, etc. And Balkan issues? Like giving Kosovo to terrorist Islam. But Crimea? Bad vote?  Not allowed. Poke finger in paint. Vote ok in certain lands. War over. You voted.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #42992 on: April 20, 2017, 02:10:36 AM »
The Trumpthread is starting to bore me.  I have no passion for the man but at the same time I don't hate him either.  The whole game of gotcha politics is also old.  Bellgab needs a new or old thread to focus on.
Welcome to the new Falkie thread...


Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #42993 on: April 20, 2017, 03:16:07 AM »
Forget Sanctions: Exxon Would Like Access to Russian Oil Anyway

With the simple submission of a technical sanctions waiver, oil giant Exxon Mobil created a potential PR headache for the White House. On Wednesday, the Wall Street Journal reported Exxon is seeking a greenlight from the U.S. government to bypass sanctions on Russia and resume doing business with the country’s state-owned oil giant Rosneft.

The State Department is one of several government agencies that will oversee Exxon’s waiver application, though a State Department spokesman told the Wall Street Journal Tillerson (who received the Russian Order of Friendship in 2013) is recusing himself from any decisions relating to Exxon for two years.

More on this at NYTimes (can't see WSJ without paying crazy expensive subscription, i.e $400 yr! $100 for 6mos at 50% off! ffs)

https://nytimes.com/2017/04/19/business/energy-environment/exxon-mobil-russia-sanctions-waiver-oil.html

"Exxon Mobil could lose its contractual exploration rights in the Black Sea if it did not begin drilling operations by the end of 2017"

"Exxon’s waiver request drew criticism Wednesday on several fronts. Senator John McCain, the Arizona Republican who is a fierce critic of Mr. Putin, asked in a Twitter post, “Are they crazy?”



Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #42994 on: April 20, 2017, 03:32:01 AM »
Ghost Fleet
the "Armada" that couldn't


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Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #42995 on: April 20, 2017, 03:52:11 AM »
Even Paul Ryan knows that RUSSIA influenced the 2016 U.S. Presidential election -- but the Trump-tards at Bellgab haven't gotten "The Memo" yet!

Vid

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #42996 on: April 20, 2017, 03:58:16 AM »
Hot Off the Press! ~ Reuters
Thu Apr 20, 2017 | 3:42 AM EDT

🚨 Exclusive: Putin-linked think tank drew up plan to sway 2016 U.S. election — w/documents proof


http://reuters.com/article/idUSKBN17L2N3


Thu Apr 20, 2017 | 3:42 AM EDT
Exclusive: Putin-linked think tank drew up plan to sway 2016 U.S. election

Exclusive: Russian think tank hatched plot to tilt '16 elections

By Ned Parker, Jonathan Landay and John Walcott | WASHINGTON

A Russian government think tank controlled by Vladimir Putin developed a plan to swing the 2016 U.S. presidential election to Donald Trump and undermine voters’ faith in the American electoral system, three current and four former U.S. officials told Reuters.

They described two confidential documents from the think tank as providing the framework and rationale for what U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded was an intensive effort by Russia to interfere with the Nov. 8 election. U.S. intelligence officials acquired the documents, which were prepared by the Moscow-based Russian Institute for Strategic Studies [en.riss.ru/], after the election.

The institute is run by retired senior Russian foreign intelligence officials appointed by Putin’s office.

The first Russian institute document was a strategy paper written last June that circulated at the highest levels of the Russian government but was not addressed to any specific individuals.

It recommended the Kremlin launch a propaganda campaign on social media and Russian state-backed global news outlets to encourage U.S. voters to elect a president who would take a softer line toward Russia than the administration of then-President Barack Obama, the seven officials said.

A second institute document, drafted in October and distributed in the same way, warned that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was likely to win the election. For that reason, it argued, it was better for Russia to end its pro-Trump propaganda and instead intensify its messaging about voter fraud to undermine the U.S. electoral system’s legitimacy and damage Clinton’s reputation in an effort to undermine her presidency, the seven officials said.

The current and former U.S. officials spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the Russian documents’ classified status. They declined to discuss how the United States obtained them. U.S. intelligence agencies also declined to comment on them.

Putin has denied interfering in the U.S. election. Putin’s spokesman and the Russian institute did not respond to requests for comment.

The documents were central to the Obama administration's conclusion that Russia mounted a “fake news” campaign and launched cyber attacks against Democratic Party groups and Clinton's campaign, the current and former officials said.

Putin had the objective in mind all along, and he asked the institute to draw him a road map,” said one of the sources, a former senior U.S. intelligence official.

Trump has said Russia’s activities had no impact on the outcome of the race. Ongoing congressional and FBI investigations into Russian interference have so far produced no public evidence that Trump associates colluded with the Russian effort to change the outcome of the election.

Four of the officials said the approach outlined in the June strategy paper was a broadening of an effort the Putin administration launched in March 2016. That month the Kremlin instructed state-backed media outlets, including international platforms Russia Today and Sputnik news agency, to start producing positive reports on Trump’s quest for the U.S. presidency, the officials said. . . .

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #42997 on: April 20, 2017, 05:07:39 AM »
Hot Off the Press! ~ Reuters
Thu Apr 20, 2017 | 3:42 AM EDT

🚨 Exclusive: Putin-linked think tank drew up plan to sway 2016 U.S. election — w/documents proof


http://reuters.com/article/idUSKBN17L2N3


Thu Apr 20, 2017 | 3:42 AM EDT
Exclusive: Putin-linked think tank drew up plan to sway 2016 U.S. election

Exclusive: Russian think tank hatched plot to tilt '16 elections

By Ned Parker, Jonathan Landay and John Walcott | WASHINGTON

A Russian government think tank controlled by Vladimir Putin developed a plan to swing the 2016 U.S. presidential election to Donald Trump and undermine voters’ faith in the American electoral system, three current and four former U.S. officials told Reuters.

They described two confidential documents from the think tank as providing the framework and rationale for what U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded was an intensive effort by Russia to interfere with the Nov. 8 election. U.S. intelligence officials acquired the documents, which were prepared by the Moscow-based Russian Institute for Strategic Studies [en.riss.ru/], after the election.

The institute is run by retired senior Russian foreign intelligence officials appointed by Putin’s office.

The first Russian institute document was a strategy paper written last June that circulated at the highest levels of the Russian government but was not addressed to any specific individuals.

It recommended the Kremlin launch a propaganda campaign on social media and Russian state-backed global news outlets to encourage U.S. voters to elect a president who would take a softer line toward Russia than the administration of then-President Barack Obama, the seven officials said.

A second institute document, drafted in October and distributed in the same way, warned that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was likely to win the election. For that reason, it argued, it was better for Russia to end its pro-Trump propaganda and instead intensify its messaging about voter fraud to undermine the U.S. electoral system’s legitimacy and damage Clinton’s reputation in an effort to undermine her presidency, the seven officials said.

The current and former U.S. officials spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the Russian documents’ classified status. They declined to discuss how the United States obtained them. U.S. intelligence agencies also declined to comment on them.

Putin has denied interfering in the U.S. election. Putin’s spokesman and the Russian institute did not respond to requests for comment.

The documents were central to the Obama administration's conclusion that Russia mounted a “fake news” campaign and launched cyber attacks against Democratic Party groups and Clinton's campaign, the current and former officials said.

Putin had the objective in mind all along, and he asked the institute to draw him a road map,” said one of the sources, a former senior U.S. intelligence official.

Trump has said Russia’s activities had no impact on the outcome of the race. Ongoing congressional and FBI investigations into Russian interference have so far produced no public evidence that Trump associates colluded with the Russian effort to change the outcome of the election.

Four of the officials said the approach outlined in the June strategy paper was a broadening of an effort the Putin administration launched in March 2016. That month the Kremlin instructed state-backed media outlets, including international platforms Russia Today and Sputnik news agency, to start producing positive reports on Trump’s quest for the U.S. presidency, the officials said. . . .

Putin himself called me up and told me to vote for Hillary.  Naturally I did the appropriate thing which was to vote for the other major candidate.  Now you are telling me I was hoodwinked!!!


Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #42998 on: April 20, 2017, 09:11:49 AM »
I can't screen grab the original, but tgis about sums it up.

After much deliberation we've assembled a list of POTUS' top 10 accomplishments in his first 100 days. Read below.
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10) Dumped over $1 million in taxpayer money into own businesses while donating Presidential salary.


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9) Appointed a spy as National Security Advisor and only fired him when the media found out about.

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8) Deepened friendships with dictators while alienating democratic leaders throughout the world.


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7) Used 59 tomohawks to put a Syrian airfield out of commission for six hours.



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6) Entertained Japanese PM by crashing someone's wedding reception.


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5) Claimed to fulfill campaign promises for issuing EOs to agencies telling them to *think* about fulfilling promises.



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4) Discovered nearly 2 million hidden visitors at his inauguration.



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3) Inspired the creation of widespread oppositional #altgovt twitter accounts with his delusional grasp on reality.


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2) Held more campaign events than any other Presidential first 100 days in history.



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1) All while golfing twice as frequently as Obama.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #42999 on: April 20, 2017, 09:44:40 AM »
Putin himself called me up and told me to vote for Hillary.  Naturally I did the appropriate thing which was to vote for the other major candidate.  Now you are telling me I was hoodwinked!!!


Even Trump said before the election that it was rigged. Did you miss that? He also said he loved wikileaks (since proven to be a section of Putin's propoganda) but strangely is all quiet on that particular front these days. He also said at his rally that he hoped Russia was listening, so they could reveal 30000 e mails; How would he know they had them?

But I'm sure if Clinton had won with similar allegations against her, you'd be saying it was all mere speculation. Course you would.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43000 on: April 20, 2017, 09:46:44 AM »
How would he know they had them? [...] Course you would.


How does it really serve your purposes to appear to be this ignorant?

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43001 on: April 20, 2017, 10:07:53 AM »
White-Trash House:
- Donald Trump
- Sarah Palin
- Kid Rock
- Ted Nugent

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43002 on: April 20, 2017, 10:22:01 AM »
White-Trash House:
- Donald Trump
- Sarah Palin
- Kid Rock
- Ted Nugent


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The visit highlights a White House decision last week not to continue the Obama administration policy of releasing its visitor logs. The Trump White House cited privacy concerns as a key reason in the reversal.

Trump only wants privacy when it might be awkward and embarrasing to be seen with undesirables. Oh hang on...

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43003 on: April 20, 2017, 10:24:32 AM »

How does it really serve your purposes to appear to be this ignorant?

We know your name thanks to your ex druggie girlfriend. How does that make me ignorant?

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43004 on: April 20, 2017, 10:26:44 AM »
Let's start with thinking that would even matter, you crazed lunatic.


Get a life.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43005 on: April 20, 2017, 10:30:42 AM »
Let's start with thinking that would even matter, you crazed lunatic.


Get a life.

Temper temper.  :)

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43006 on: April 20, 2017, 10:33:51 AM »
Ghost Fleet
the "Armada" that couldn't


Vid:

This lunatic isn't even aware what a dangerous moron he is. Armada! Spicer had to think fast yesterday to explain that Trump didn't mean what he said. But did, sorta kinda.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43007 on: April 20, 2017, 10:36:28 AM »
Trump is visiting Ryan's district soon. Pauline will not be in attendance. More palace intrigue.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43008 on: April 20, 2017, 10:39:06 AM »
We know your name thanks to your ex druggie girlfriend. How does that make me ignorant?
So Jackstar is both on the free agent market and he dates junkies.

Shocking, in Sean Connery voice.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43009 on: April 20, 2017, 10:53:02 AM »
Let's start with thinking that would even matter, you crazed lunatic


Get a life.

I spy a pleonasm, you tautological shitbag.

Affectionately yours,

SV

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43010 on: April 20, 2017, 11:03:58 AM »
I wonder why he did that in front of the cameras, but signed the pp one privately? Weird eh? Might it be he only copes with percieved good publicity?

I am going to have to check this out the initial program that was put out was a fuck story. How it was portrayed was if you were a vet and you had to travel a long distance or had an inordinate amount of wait times. You could see a civillian doctor and the VA would pick up the tab. The reality was it did not work, the VA was denying essentially all claims (big surprise). It would be nice if they fixed it.     

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43011 on: April 20, 2017, 11:04:11 AM »
So (ha) now we have a somewhat credible source saying Putin tasked people with influencing the election in Trump's favor and a second somewhat credible source saying the former CIA director made up Trump connections with Putin to influence the election in Hillary's favor.

As one who accepts the healing power of "and" - I think we were and are now being fucked with.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43012 on: April 20, 2017, 11:07:59 AM »
That openess and transparency in full. Oh and relasing tax returns.
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After dodging questions on the subject for weeks, the administration waited until the afternoon of Good Friday to dump the news that it will not follow former president Barack Obama's policy of voluntarily disclosing the names of most visitors to the White House complex. The president’s communications director cited “grave national security risks” as a justification, even though Obama had made an exception for national security.

As RNC communications director, Sean Spicer attacked the president for not putting enough information in the visitor logs. “President Obama got elected by promising to be different, to change Washington, and to be open, transparent and accountable,” Spicer wrote in an Aug. 2012 press release. “But it turns out it was all empty rhetoric--nothing but broken promises.”


-- Trump’s evolving excuses for withholding his tax returns encapsulate why he is a man who cannot be taken at his word:

In 2011, the businessman told ABC News he’d release his tax returns as soon as Obama released his birth certificate. Obama did. Trump reneged.

In 2012, criticizing Mitt Romney for not releasing his returns, Trump said on Fox News that it would be “a positive” and “a great thing” if he put his returns out because it would show “you’ve been successful, and that you’ve made a lot of money.” The former Massachusetts governor eventually relented under pressure.

In 2014, Trump was unequivocal. “If I decide to run for office, I’ll produce my tax returns, absolutely,” he told an Irish TV station. “And I would love to do that.”

“At some point I’ll release it,” he said in a 2015 radio interview.

In early 2016, Trump said he was “working on” putting the returns together and planned to share them soon. Then, after he started winning primaries, he changed his tune. He said he couldn’t put them out because he was being audited by the IRS. But he promised repeatedly, including during an October debate with Clinton, that he’d share his returns just “as soon as the audit is finished.”

-- If he hasn’t already, Trump will file this year’s taxes very soon. The audit excuse does not apply. It is literally impossible for this year’s return to already be under scrutiny by the IRS. There are also previous years that are not under audit.

-- Now, however, the president acts as if the mere fact he won an election absolves him of every past promise. On Saturday, Trump’s motorcade took a circuitous route back from a golf outing so he would not need to see hundreds of protestors calling for his tax returns.

Awww, poor sensitive thing.  :)

That swamp draining in full..

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It’s not just the taxes and visitor logs, though. There are numerous examples of Trump and his team withholding pertinent information from the public since January:

-- Foxes in the hen house: Secret waivers allow lobbyists to advance their former clients’ interests from high perches inside the government without anyone on the outside ever knowing. The lead story in Sunday’s New York Times, produced in conjunction with ProPublica, highlighted how cagey Trump’s White House is being about whether it is even following its own rules. From Eric Lipton, Ben Protess and Andrew Lehren: “President Trump is populating the White House and federal agencies with former lobbyists, lawyers and consultants who in many cases are helping to craft new policies for the same industries in which they recently earned a paycheck. … The potential conflicts are arising across the executive branch. …

 In at least two cases, the appointments may have already led to violations of the administration’s own ethics rules. But evaluating if and when such violations have occurred has become almost impossible because the Trump administration is secretly issuing waivers to the rules…

One such case involves Michael Catanzaro, who serves as the top White House energy adviser. Until late last year, he was working as a lobbyist for major industry clients such as Devon Energy of Oklahoma, an oil and gas company, and Talen Energy of Pennsylvania, a coal-burning electric utility, as they fought Obama-era environmental regulations, including the landmark Clean Power Plan. Now, he is handling some of the same matters on behalf of the federal government.

“Another case involves Chad Wolf, who spent the past several years lobbying to secure funding for the Transportation Security Administration to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on a new carry-on luggage screening device. He is now chief of staff at that agency — at the same time as the device is being tested and evaluated for possible purchase by agency staff…

“At the Labor Department, two officials joined the agency from the K Street lobbying corridor, leaving behind jobs where they fought some of the Obama administration’s signature labor rules, including a policy requiring financial advisers to act in a client’s best interest when providing retirement advice.

“In several cases, officials in the Trump administration now hold the exact jobs they targeted as lobbyists or lawyers in the past two years. Trump White House officials had over 300 recent corporate clients and employers, including Apple, the giant hedge fund Citadel and the insurance titan Anthem, according to a Times analysis of financial disclosures. (The White House has released disclosures for only about half of its roughly 180 current senior political employees.) And there are more than 40 former lobbyists in the White House and the broader federal government…

“A White House spokeswoman, Sarah H. Sanders, declined repeated requests by The Times to speak with … the White House lawyer in charge of the ethics policy. Instead, the White House provided a written statement that did not address any of the specific questions about potential violations…”

Really? I wonder why?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2017/04/17/daily-202-what-does-trump-have-to-hide-secretive-white-house-unapologetic-about-clawing-back-transparency/58f411b3e9b69b3a72331e8e/?utm_term=.05e533ec6c0b

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43013 on: April 20, 2017, 11:11:00 AM »
So Jackstar is both on the free agent market and he dates junkies.

Shocking, in Sean Connery voice.

This is the thing. Before she was banned she said it was his influence that did it. Seemed to be a great deal of bitterness from both sides. He was calling her names and everything.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43014 on: April 20, 2017, 11:18:40 AM »
The president's tax returns are automatically audited, so whatever Mr. Trump has filed is under audit now.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43015 on: April 20, 2017, 11:19:42 AM »
So (ha) now we have a somewhat credible source saying Putin tasked people with influencing the election in Trump's favor and a second somewhat credible source saying the former CIA director made up Trump connections with Putin to influence the election in Hillary's favor.

As one who accepts the healing power of "and" - I think we were and are now being fucked with.

In the last day or so its come to light officially what most of us already knew. The Nunes/WH charade was orchestrated to deflect away from the ongoing FBI/Senate/House investigations into the Trump campaign/Russia connections (which by strange happenstance also includes the brother of the current education sec). The staffers were in a panic to do something after Trump's (quote) " crazy tweets" about wiretapping. So they invented a story to try and substantiate the bs. Hardly any wonder why Nunes appeared to look like a rabbit caught in the headlights. He knew he was spinning a yarn that had no foundation.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43016 on: April 20, 2017, 11:21:35 AM »
The president's tax returns are automatically audited, so whatever Mr. Trump has filed is under audit now.

Doesn't prevent them being released though. Or previous years. Lame excuse considering he was going to release them. What has he to hide? That he hardly pays any perhaps? Or where his money really is stashed?

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43017 on: April 20, 2017, 11:33:10 AM »
Lame excuse considering he was going to release them.


remove the beam from thine own

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43018 on: April 20, 2017, 11:42:46 AM »
Keep up the Russian's hacked are election narrative that will get Trump re-elected. 

CAMILLE PAGLIA: I am a Bernie Sanders supporter. I voted for Jill Stein. So I want to make that clear.

Was Camille Paglia influenced by the Russian's??? No Hillary was a shitty candidate.

BRUNI: You feel like he is going to get reelected?

PAGLIA: Yes. The Democrats have overplayed their hand. And the -- I just can't imagine--

BRUNI: You're already betting on his reelection less than 100 days in?

PAGLIA: Yes because what the Democrats needed to do-- and the major media, Frank, needed to do was to do some soul-searching.

What is not in this article Russian's.....No mention of their influence. Sure keep it up that is going to be a winner.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/04/19/camile_paglia_trump_already_headed_towards_reelection_democrats_have_overplayed_their_hand.html   

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #43019 on: April 20, 2017, 11:46:30 AM »
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But here’s a clue to the weirdness: by leaving vacant Senate-confirmed offices, the personal power of the presidential family is enhanced
https://mobile.twitter.com/davidfrum/status/855076554405183488

Keep it in the family. POTUS 45 is simply an extension of Trump inc.
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Ivanka Trump will make an official visit to Germany next week
https://mobile.twitter.com/business/status/855075877117452288