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Started by Rix Gins, January 01, 2016, 08:20:14 PM

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From the Library of Congress.


Tonopah Daily Bonanza., September 26, 1917.

Photos and info: https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=64258750

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A fascinating video that was filmed in London England on September 26, 1917.  The film captures damage received from a German Gotha bombing raid the previous night/morning.  Sound has been added to give the film a feeling of authenticity.

https://youtu.be/5Vq_wGllepw

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From the Imperial War Museum.


QuoteGunners of the Royal Garrison Artillery placing fuses in heavy shells at a shell dump in Contay.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205235800


QuoteGunners posing with a large collection of shells at a shell dump at Contay, 27 September 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205235802


QuoteBattle of Polygon Wood: Gunners of the Royal Marine Artillery loading the 15 inch Mk.II Howitzer 'Grannie' on 27 September 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205215472


QuoteThe view from a captured German pill-box, showing the burst of a shell of the German barrage searching British reserve trenches as part of the Battle of Polygon Wood within the Battle of Passchendaele. Taken near the Wieltje-Grafenstafel Road (Rat Farm), 27th September 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205079793


QuoteMen of the West Yorkshire Regiment sitting in a captured German pill box waiting to go into action, near the St Julien - Grafenstafel road during the Battle of Polygon Wood, 26 September - 3 October, part of the Battle of Passchendaele.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205193402

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From the Europeana Collection.


QuoteArtillery observation post.  Date: 1917-09-28.
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QuoteThe Marmolata Mountain Range (The Dolomites) in Italy.  60 cm floodlight on "U" Nord; Belluno; photographer: Flam.  Date: 1917-09-28.
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QuoteThe Marmolata Mountain Range (The Dolomites) in Italy.  North: Ice stollen "U".  Date: 1917-09-28.   
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QuoteThe Marmolata Mountain Range (The Dolomites) in Italy.  Motif from the "U" tunnel.  Date: 1917-09-28.
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QuoteThe Marmolata Mountain Range (The Dolomites) in Italy.  Protected position in the ice tunnel.  Date: 1917-09-28.
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Rix Gins

From the Library of Congress.


The Bismarck Tribune., September 28, 1917.


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From the Library of Congress.


Tonopah Daily Bonanza., September 29, 1917.

https://youtu.be/iFkq_7t-BgI

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From the Imperial War Museum.


QuoteMotorized transport on the Ypres-Zonnebeck road, alongside which wrecked transport are seen with their split loads of shells, etc. 30 September 1917, during the Battle of Polygon Wood, part of the Battle of Passchendaele. In the background men are filling in shell-holes.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205079803


QuoteA British soldier sits on the wheel of a lorry which has fallen into a ditch at the side of the Ypres-Menin Road, 30 September 1917 during operations in the area in support of the Battle of Polygon Wood, part of the Battle of Passchendaele. A troop column passes by.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205079804


QuoteHorse drawn and motorized transport, including gun limbers for a Royal Field Artillery Battery, seen on the Ypres-Menin Road, 30th September 1917, during the Battle of Polygon Wood, part of the Battle of Passchendaele.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205079800


QuoteBritish soldiers rest on a dump of shell-cases, beside the Ypres-Menin road, 30th September 1917, during the Battle of Polygon Wood, part of the Battle of Passchendaele. In the background is passing a horse-drawn gun limber of the Royal Field Artillery.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205079801


QuoteTroops collecting in Poperinghe to go on leave, 30th September 1917. Many are waving their leave papers.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205235680

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From the Library of Congress.


Evening Star., September 30, 1917.


Evening Star., September 30, 1917.

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Films that were released on September 30, 1917.

The Sultan's Wife  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sultan%27s_Wife


The Sultan's Wife promo.
By Triangle Film Corporation - https://archive.org/stream/motionpicturenew162unse#page/2302/mode/2up, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=44905051

QuoteLike many American films of the time, The Sultan's Wife was subject to cuts by city and state film censorship boards. The Chicago Board of Censors required a cut of the scenes with a man on a bench wiggling his posterior after seeing dancers in the background, of the Sultan falling backwards after the dance and spreading his arms and legs, and of the man and woman knocking into each other.

https://youtu.be/PqRnBmrmDFU



Oh Doctor! 

QuoteLike many American films of the time, Oh Doctor! was subject to cuts by city and state film censorship boards. The Chicago Board of Censors required a cut of the scene where a man is pulling a women's skirt up to her knees.

https://youtu.be/r5u0Rk7i8vk



Camille


Promotional picture from the film Camille (1917) with Theda Bara.
By Fox Film Corporation - J. Willis Sayre Collection, University of Washington Library, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=30107026

QuoteLike many American films of the time, Camille was subject to cuts by city and state film censorship boards. The Chicago Board of Censors issued an Adults Only permit, cut two long gambling sequences where money was on the table and flashed all other gambling scenes, and cut the two intertitles "That woman once favored me when I was poor, now that I am rich bear witness that I pay" and "You are here because you are selfish - and make a sale of your love to the highest bidder".
QuoteThis film is now considered a lost film.





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From the Imperial War Museum.


QuoteOfficer and Private of the Royal Engineers testing telephone lines behind Zillebeke, 1 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205238051


QuoteRoyal Engineers officer and private testing telephone lines behind Zillebeke, 1 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205238050


QuoteRoyal Garrison Artillery gunners pushing a light railway truck filled with shells, behind Zillebeke, 1 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205238059


QuoteCooks from the King's Own Light Infantry at work near Wieltje, 1 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205238058


QuoteBritish officer sitting alongside a German 'dud' shell, 1 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205238054


QuoteMen of the 6th Battalion, Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, resting beneath a tarpaulin, Ypres-Comines Canal, 1 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205238061


From the Europeana Collection.


QuotePredazzo: Soldier's Home, Game & Reading room.  Date: 1917-10-01.
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QuoteTheatre at the Soldiers' quarters in Predazzo.  Dolomite front, Trentino, Fleims valley (Val di Fiemme); photographer: Flam. 
Date: 1917-10-01.
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From the Library of Congress.


The Seattle Star., October 02, 1917.

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From the Library of Congress.  Photos of two World Series bound Chicago Cubs.


Joe Benz, pitcher.  October 2, 1917.
Bain News Service, publisher.   https://www.loc.gov/item/ggb2006014730/


Buck Weaver, shortstop/third baseman.  October 2, 1917.
Bain News Service, publisher.  https://www.loc.gov/item/ggb2006014724/

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From the Imperial War Museum.


QuoteTwo 9.2 inch howitzers of the Royal Garrison Artillery at Guillemont about to fire, 4 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205239100


QuoteSeen in a prison camp at Saint Jean, a German Regimental Commander (in centre) with his adjutant and staff who were captured at Poelcapelle by the 11th Division on the 4th October during the Battle of Broodseinde.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205079927


QuoteMargaret Roscoe, Munitions work. Died of TNT poisoning 04 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205381120


QuoteChaplain (3rd Class) The Reverend Walter Charles Wilks, Army Chaplains' Department (Attached 7 Battalion, South Staffordshire Regiment).   The Reverend Wilks was awarded the Military Cross for gallantry during the First World War. He was killed by a shell, aged 35, near Boesinghe in the Ypres Salient on 4 October 1917.  The Reverend Wilks is buried at Bard Cottage Cemetery.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205023922


From the Europeana Collection.


QuotePosition Cima di Cupola: hand lift on Cima di Cupola background ¤ 2555.  Date: 1917-10-04
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Rix Gins

From the Imperial War Museum.


QuoteBattle of Broodseinde. A Caquot kite balloon after being hauled down by its winch. Note air mechanics hauling on ropes to keep the basket on the ground. Near Ypres, 5 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205247443


QuoteMen of the Gloucestershire Regiment transporting stones for road making in wheelbarrows over a temporary wooden bridge, Zillebeke, 5 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205238064


QuoteLoading a 15-inch howitzer near the Menin Road, in the Ypres Sector. This is one of the many such large howitzers which pounded the enemy's reserve area and demolished concrete fortifications.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205193138


QuoteThree military policemen taking a meal whilst seated in a shelter constructed from ammunition boxes, at a prisoner of war transit camp at Saint Jean on 5th October 1917 after processing a batch of German prisoners who had been captured at Poelcapelle by the 11th Division of the British Fifth Army during the Battle of Broodseinde.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205079929


From the Europeana Collection.


QuoteViewpoint of the hut: the dog train column.  Date: 1917-10-05.
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QuoteDestroyed Huzulen house in the front.  Date: 1917-10-05.
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From the Library of Congress.


New-York Tribune., October 05, 1917.


The Sun., October 05, 1917.


FIGHT FOR LIFE ENDS HAPPILY. PUMPMAN AT KLONDIKE WELLS SAVED AFTER DESPERATE STRUGGLE.

  S. H. Manor, who has charge of tbe pumping plant of the Tonopah & Goldfield railroad at Klondike, escaped with his life this morning, after a strenuous battle that comes only once in a lifetime.

  While attending the machinery Manor's clothing became 'entangled in the fly wheel of the engine and if he had not acted with rare presence of mind he would have been horribly mangled and hurled into eternity in a few seconds. As the man felt the tug on his overalls he realized what had happened and flung himself sidewise towards the wall, where his work bench was located. Then seizing a heavy vice firmly bolted to the bench he clung to It with a tenacity that brought him through from the brink of the grave badly marred, but yet alive and with internal injuries. Every stitch of his clothing was torn from his body and each revolution of the wheel increased the pulling, but Manor held on with a death grip until he was left stark naked and dropped a palpitating mass of flesh on the floor.

  The whole affair was over in a few seconds and when help arrived in answer to the screams nothing could be done except to apply emergency relief. The worst injury was a serious cut on the head, where it was supposed he came in contact with the vice when he was thrown backwards, but Manor also complained of pains in the abdominal region.

  On the arrival of train No. 23 from Goldfield, the injured man was taken aboard the baggage car and the engine and car were sent back to Goldfield, where Manor was placed in St. Mary's hospital.

  The accident caused the train to be 50 minutes late on arriving in Tonopah this morning. Manor was a new man at the station, having been transferred only a few days ago.
Tonopah Daily Bonanza., October 05, 1917.

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Some newspaper clippings from the Library of Congress.


New-York Tribune., October 07, 1917.


Rogue River Courier., October 07, 1917.


Evening Star., October 07, 1917.

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The Chicago White Sox took game one of the 1917 World Series over the New York Giants by a score of 2 to 1 at Chicago's Comiskey Park on October 6, 1917.  https://chicagology.com/baseball/1917worldseries/gameone/

https://youtu.be/AGF_QqK38KE

Game two (also in Chicago) was held the next day and Chicago won it with a score of 7 to 2.  Red Faber was the star of that one.  https://chicagology.com/baseball/1917worldseries/gametwo/


Red Faber  
By The original uploader was Never been to spain at English Wikipedia 

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From the Europeana Collection.


QuoteEmperor Karl in Vladimir Wolinsky.  Date: 1917-10-09.
https://www.europeana.eu/portal/en/record/9200291/BibliographicResource_3000073600302.html?utm_source=api&utm_medium=api&utm_campaign=api2demo  http://www.bildarchivaustria.at/Pages/Search/Result.aspx?p_eBildansicht=2&p_ItemID=1  https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/mark/1.0/


QuoteTelephone and telegraph center in Trento.  Date: 1917-10-09.
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QuoteTelephone and telegraph center in Trento.  Date: 1917-10-09.
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QuoteTelephone and telegraph center; Trento, Dolomites front, Trentino; Photographer: Kriegsvermessung 11.  Date: 1917-10-09.
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QuoteTelephone and telegraph exchange in Trento.  Date: 1917-10-09.
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From the Imperial War Museum.


QuoteBattle of Poelcappelle. Royal Engineers taking drums of telephone wire along a duckboard path up to the front between Pilckem and Langemarck, 10 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205193412


QuoteMen of the Lancashire Fusiliers carrying duckboards over the waterlogged ground near Pilckem, 10 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205215477


QuoteA German concrete pillbox or blockhouse captured by the Coldstream Guards on the outskirts of Houlthulst Forest, Battle of Poelcappelle, 10 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205215476


QuoteTwo men of the Coldstream Guards at a drinking-water point near Langemarck, 10 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205238071


QuoteThree Royal Field Artillery Officers in their shelter at Langemarck, 10 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205238070


From the Europeana Collection.


QuoteStorm battery during attack.  Date: 1917-10-10.
https://www.europeana.eu/portal/en/record/9200291/BibliographicResource_3000073595806.html?utm_source=api&utm_medium=api&utm_campaign=api2demo  http://www.bildarchivaustria.at/Pages/Search/Result.aspx?p_eBildansicht=2&p_ItemID=1  https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/mark/1.0/


QuoteStorm patrol in the preparation of the wire guards.  Date: 1917-10-10
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The New York Giants won game three of the 1917 World Series by a score of two to nothing.  The game was played at New York's Polo Grounds on October 10th.   Both runs were made during the fourth inning.  Rube Benton was the winning pitcher.

Game recap: https://chicagology.com/baseball/1917worldseries/gamethree/


Rube Benton baseball card.
By unknown - http://www.vintagecardprices.com/pics/51589.jpg, PD-US, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?curid=31531986
public domain

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Jazz pianist Thelonious Monk was born one hundred years ago, yesterday.

Bio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelonious_Monk


From left, Monk, Howard McGhee, Roy Eldridge, and Teddy Hill, Minton's Playhouse, New York, N.Y., c. September 1947.
By William P. Gottlieb - Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=11120646

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The 1917 New York Giants were down two games to one going into game four of the World Series at New York's Polo Grounds.  On October 11, they evened things up with a 5 to 0 drubbing of the Chicago White Sox.  Benny Kauff was the star player for the Giants, having hit two homeruns (one with a man on base).  The next game is to be played in Chicago.

Game recap:  https://chicagology.com/baseball/1917worldseries/gamefour/
QuoteAn added feature to-day was the march from second base to the home plate. Twelve of the Giants trudged that short distance carrying allied flags. In the middle walked McGraw with the Stars and Stripes. The band played “America.” Thinking it was ihe national anthem, the bugs stood up once more.


Picture of Bennie Kauff.
By Chicago Daily News - Chicago Daily News/Chicago Historical Society, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=2848957

https://youtu.be/oF-NOT6BJFY

albrecht

Quote from: Rix Gins on October 11, 2017, 06:24:17 PM
The 1917 New York Giants were down two games to one going into game four of the World Series at New York's Polo Grounds.  On October 11, they evened things up with a 5 to 0 drubbing of the Chicago White Sox.  Benny Kauff was the star player for the Giants, having hit two homeruns (one with a man on base).  The next game is to be played in Chicago.

Game recap:  https://chicagology.com/baseball/1917worldseries/gamefour/

Picture of Bennie Kauff.
By Chicago Daily News - Chicago Daily News/Chicago Historical Society, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=2848957

https://youtu.be/oF-NOT6BJFY
Great writing and cartooning. Who/what is the 500lbs Philly bug, the Tit-man? Some kind of wrestler celebrity? I also like how they break down the receipts and numbers from the game.

Rix Gins

Quote from: albrecht on October 11, 2017, 06:48:09 PM
Great writing and cartooning. Who/what is the 500lbs Philly bug, the Tit-man? Some kind of wrestler celebrity? I also like how they break down the receipts and numbers from the game.

Found him!  Emory Titman (or C.F. Titman) was a big, overweight guy who had money in his younger years and he used it to ingratiate himself into professional sports circles, specifically baseball’s Philadelphia Athletics.  He spent all of his money through the years and wound up working for a taxi company.  He wasn't a professional wrestler but was...
Quotean athlete, a good swimmer, an ice skater who stayed upright (thankfully) and could make the turns.

Source: http://www.atlanticcityweekly.com/news_and_views/titman-topples-assman-a-weighty-mystery/article_12483c92-f76d-5225-a9cd-eec60cc69cda.html

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From the Imperial War Museum.


QuoteDisembarkation of German troops off Saaremaa (Osel) in a string of fours. Transport ship and three seaplanes on water can be seen in the background, 12 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205280108

Quote
First Battle of Passchendaele. Guardsmen, including men of the 4th Battalion, Coldstream Guards, with a telescope and Lewis Gun resting on wooden post about to open fire on a German aeroplane, near Langemarck (Langemark-Poelkapelle), 12th October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205235606


QuoteMen undertaking drainage work near Saint Julien, 12 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205238076


QuoteA knocked out British tank half submerged in mud and water near St Julien, 12 October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205215480


QuoteGuardsmen washing and shaving in a small stream near Langemarck (Langemark-Poelkapelle), 12th October 1917.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205235605

albrecht

Quote from: Rix Gins on October 12, 2017, 02:04:30 AM
Found him!  Emory Titman (or C.F. Titman) was a big, overweight guy who had money in his younger years and he used it to ingratiate himself into professional sports circles, specifically baseball’s Philadelphia Athletics.  He spent all of his money through the years and wound up working for a taxi company.  He wasn't a professional wrestler but was...
Source: http://www.atlanticcityweekly.com/news_and_views/titman-topples-assman-a-weighty-mystery/article_12483c92-f76d-5225-a9cd-eec60cc69cda.html
Good sleuthing! An interesting guy. I've heard that crematoriums/funeralparlors have problems these days because of obese people. I wonder how they handled his cremation back then when people were normally shorter and less fat?

Rix Gins

Quote from: albrecht on October 12, 2017, 04:00:37 PM
Good sleuthing! An interesting guy. I've heard that crematoriums/funeralparlors have problems these days because of obese people. I wonder how they handled his cremation back then when people were normally shorter and less fat?

Thanks.  Here is an informative article about cremating the obese: http://www.us-funerals.com/funeral-articles/can-an-obese-person-be-cremated.html#.WeAT1bpFzGg
QuoteAn oversize cremation is likely to cost you at least $100 - $500 more than a standard cremation.  The additional costs that you could incur are:
Transportation costs if the deceased has to be transported to nearest oversize crematory facility (this is generally an additional per mile mileage fee)
Extra cost for an oversize cremation container
Excess weight cremation charge

I had no idea that cremating the obese was a problem but you are right.  I was surprised to learn that your friendly, neighborhood crematorium might not be set up to handle bodies that weigh over 300 lbs., in which case they have to be taken to a larger facility at more expense.  Also that a large body can actually damage the cremation machinery due to excess heat generated by larger amounts of burning fat, ligaments etc.  Some funeral homes will burn a big body in the morning when all the equipment is cold and better able to handle the extra heat.

albrecht

Quote from: Rix Gins on October 12, 2017, 07:38:54 PM
Thanks.  Here is an informative article about cremating the obese: http://www.us-funerals.com/funeral-articles/can-an-obese-person-be-cremated.html#.WeAT1bpFzGg
I had no idea that cremating the obese was a problem but you are right.  I was surprised to learn that your friendly, neighborhood crematorium might not be set up to handle bodies that weigh over 300 lbs., in which case they have to be taken to a larger facility at more expense.  Also that a large body can actually damage the cremation machinery due to excess heat generated by larger amounts of burning fat, ligaments etc.  Some funeral homes will burn a big body in the morning when all the equipment is cold and better able to handle the extra heat.
Nasty stuff. Like so many things about logistics and process. Fat people are a real burden on society.

One thing reason I mentioned it was I heard those stories and I found the signs to crematoriums weird in Europe. I passed by one all the time on the A2 and always thought "WTF?" I understand signs for airports, hospitals, city centers, even sports areas- things normal people might need or be traveling to but was creeped out out directional signs- as if a lot of motorists or commercial traffic would be needing- directions to a crematorium! (Was thinking NAZI remnants but modern signs, so not.) Just signs pointing out where the nearest crematorium was. Weird.

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