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Is quantum physics being misused by believers in PSI?

Started by 136 or 142, July 19, 2015, 08:54:28 PM

136 or 142

Posted this in the GNS thread, but for those who missed it:

The universe is full of mysteries that challenge our current knowledge. In "Beyond Science" Epoch Times collects stories about these strange phenomena to stimulate the imagination and open up previously undreamed of possibilities. Are they true? You decide.

Quantum physics is so fascinating that it appeals to a broader lay audience than a lot of other topics in science. It’s also so difficult to grasp and attempts to simplify it for a lay audience may open it to misunderstanding.

It is invoked to explain all sorts of strange, even paranormal, phenomena. Yet these explanations are often based on misconceptions about quantum physics. Quantum physics may indeed have the potential to explain such phenomena, since much remains to be discovered about it. But it is important to remain clear on what it does and does not actually claim at this point in its development.

1. No Indication That Entanglement Transfers Information
Quantum entanglement is a phenomenon in which pairs or groups of particles that have been in contact with each other seem to remain connected over vast distances. When actions are performed on one of the particles, corresponding changes are observed on the others.

Some have said that this entanglement may explain psi phenomena (psi refers to psychic phenomena, including telepathy, clairvoyance, et cetera).

Garret Moddel, an engineering professor at the University of Colorado who has worked extensively with quantum mechanics, warned that the effect “is a very subtle one. It’s not a causal effect, it’s a correlational effect. What the distinction between those two is requires a rather patient and detailed explanation.”

“People tend to think that quantum entanglement means that when I shake one particle, I’ll be able to see the effect on another, but that’s not so,” he said. “It’s been shown quite rigorously that you cannot use quantum entanglement to convey information, only to convey correlation. So, it’s not a signaling mechanism.”

“It’s possible that psi and the whole world works by correlation and not transfer of information in a causal way, but that’s a much deeper discussion.”

2. Consciousness Is Not Necessarily the Key to Collapsing the Wave-Function
The observer effect in quantum physics is often seen as the most shocking and interesting aspect of quantum physics. The outcome of a particular actionâ€"the wave-function collapseâ€"is suspended until it is observed. This seems to suggest that human consciousness is able to physically affect an experiment. But, Moddel warned, it is not generally thought by physicists that consciousness is necessary to collapse the wave-function.

A detector is sufficient, as most physicists see it. Of course, it is possible that a human checking the detector is the key, but quantum physics as it is generally conceived does not currently hold this to be necessary.

Astrophysicist Mario Livio also discussed this misconception in a post on NASA’s “A Curious Mind” blog. He wrote: “Perhaps the most common misconception is that the observer plays a crucial role in the uncertainty principleâ€"namely, that the principle really stems from the influence of the observer of the phenomenon being observed. This misunderstanding has even led some to conclude that the principle could be directly applied to a variety of everyday experiences.”

3. It Doesn’t Only Describe the Subatomic Level
Achim Kempf, a professor of mathematical physics at the University of Waterloo in Canada, explained via email that quantum physics does not only describe phenomena at very small scales and only in special circumstances.

“In reality, quantum physics determines most of what we see in daily life, such as the color, elasticity, and heat capacity of everyday things such as water, rocks, metals, and also biological matter. On larger scales, the way in which stars, in their interior, fuse primordial hydrogen into the elements of the periodic system is also governed by quantum physics,” he said.

Furthermore, researchers speculate that our universe may have inflated so rapidly during its genesis that quantum fluctuations were “dragged along and thereby stretched to cosmological size.”

“Our universe itself may have arisen from a quantum fluctuation inside a mother universe,” he said. Though this hypothesis fits with the current standard model of cosmology, however, no concrete evidence has supported it so far, Kempf said.

4. Speaking of a ‘Wave-Particle Duality’ Is Not Exactly Correct
It’s a popular conception that in quantum mechanics microscopic objects, such as electrons or photons, are neither pure particles nor pure wavesâ€"they are both waves and particles. In some conditions they behave as waves, in some conditions, they behave as particles.

Serious textbooks on quantum mechanics, however, only talk about waves, or wave-functions, noted theoretical physicist Hrvoje Nikolic of the Rudjer Boskovic Institute in Croatia in a 2008 paper titled, “Quantum Mechanics: Myths and Facts.”

“Electrons and photons always behave as waves, while a particle-like behavior corresponds only to a special case. In this sense, the wave-particle duality is nothing but a myth,” he said. We can say that electrons and photons are “particles,” if we keep in mind that “the word ‘particle’ has a very different meaning than the same word in classical physics,” Nikolic said. But this is a matter of linguistics. They are waves according to the usual interpretation.

The De Broglie-Bohm interpretation of quantum mechanics, he said, comes close to a kind of wave-particle duality, but it still treats “particles” very differently than “particles” are treated in classical physics. The De Broglie-Bohm is not one of the most popular interpretations.

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Tara MacIsasc has been a guest with Dave Schraeder.

Quote from: 136 or 142 on July 19, 2015, 08:54:28 PM
Quantum physics is so fascinating that it appeals to a broader lay audience than a lot of other topics in science. It’s also so difficult to grasp and attempts to simplify it for a lay audience may open it to misunderstanding.

This is the part everyone should be paying attention to.

albrecht

Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on July 19, 2015, 09:10:13 PM
This is the part everyone should be paying attention to.
Yep. An interesting subject and one that I don't mind speculation or Art or late night hosts talking about but like many other things...
Hell, I recall arguing about "half-lives" of various isotopes with my Junior High science teacher. (A basic, almost Grecian way of ancient argument, by me, 1/2 of something reducing won't get anywhere to nothing.) Coach couldn't explain much, searching teacher's edition furiously. But, also, my modern-day Zeno like thoughts (hahaha) didn't either.) The problem was/is we (often) don't have good teachers and we don't have good discipline in school (or of self.) And also, on both sides, don't recognize that you, at least often, need to understand (or even believe) the BASICs before one moves on the more advanced theories or knowledge. Especially in math and science but even in the humanities, etc. You get some new-ager from California or "trucker in Texas" with quantum theory, or Bible/Hindu/Buddah stuff and boom....on you go. (And I live in Texas, and love it.) And would say the same goes for philosophy, religion, math, politics, history, etc. C2C is the worst because it capitalizings on no general, even specialized, knowledge which our schools don't provide and so mislead people, many some honest people who actually are interested but, for whatever reason didn't. Or on stupid people. So any "theory" or basic idea, whether Norry's Manichean ideas, "big bang issues", quantum stuff, religious debates (that were settled centuries ago even), weather anomalies, etc can be exploited for supplements, etc or just for listening; which is benign, I guess. I shutter to think that anyone listens for scientific, political, economic, or theology direction. Entertainment ONLY! Maybe, in rare cases, otherwise but Cavet emptor.

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