What ever happened to .....

[Daggit]

I thought this would be a good place for people to ask questions about past Coast topics that have either passed their use by date or simply just dropped off the radar.

So what ever happened to Gulf War Syndrome? Was it a bust? Was it ever explained? Have there been cases from the latest wars?

Also what happened to the Mayan calendar "experts"? Did they find new gigs after nothing happened of D-day?

[albrecht]

I thought this would be a good place for people to ask questions about past Coast topics that have either passed their use by date or simply just dropped off the radar.

So what ever happened to Gulf War Syndrome? Was it a bust? Was it ever explained? Have there been cases from the latest wars?

Also what happened to the Mayan calendar "experts"? Did they find new gigs after nothing happened of D-day?

http://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/gulfwar/benefits/registry-exam.asp
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/gulf-war-syndrome-veterans_n_2634838.html
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html?_r=0

My "what ever happened to...."
1) Kathleen Keating
2) Jan Lamprecht (murdered over a carjacking?Kidnapped? And who (maybe) assumed his identity after the car-jacking on some websites?)
and the big one.....
3) that "charity foundation" that Norry kept talking about? Remember? He was going to set up a charity foundation  to help out listeners on fixed-incomes, with health problems, or in dire financial straits? Talked about it quite a bit and then.....nothing. Never mentions it anymore.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

Whatever happened to Coast to Coast AM?

[Daggit]

http://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/gulfwar/benefits/registry-exam.asp
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/gulf-war-syndrome-veterans_n_2634838.html
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html?_r=0

My "what ever happened to...."
1) Kathleen Keating
2) Jan Lamprecht (murdered over a carjacking?Kidnapped? And who (maybe) assumed his identity after the car-jacking on some websites?)
and the big one.....
3) that "charity foundation" that Norry kept talking about? Remember? He was going to set up a charity foundation  to help out listeners on fixed-incomes, with health problems, or in dire financial straits? Talked about it quite a bit and then.....nothing. Never mentions it anymore.

Thanks for the information.

According to this thread on BellGab she passed away in 2010.

[albrecht]

Thanks for the information.

According to this thread on BellGab she passed away in 2010.

No problem. Btw, though news and research keeps coming out it still is not 100% confirmed that there was a specific "Gulf War Syndrome", from what I can tell but, maybe, a more nebulous number of health problems associated with the war(s.) (Chemical weapon exposure, the waste from the burning hydrocarbons, use of DU, diseases, trauma, inoculations and vaccinations, diet, etc.) The important thing is, hopefully, Vets will get help with whatever issues they have- even if they are "psycho-somatic"- if anything I hope we learned that mental problems also are a key concern. Just a number of years ago complaining Vets would be turned away because "it was all in their heads." Even recently soldiers are being dismissed for violations often caused by their psychical pain (and get into drugs, often first prescribed to them!) or mental problems (caused by broken families, multiple deployment, etc)- to save money etc. Shameful.

I recall that Keating thread but the answer still seems to be in question. And as for Jan Lamprecht (initially of Hollow Earth, and even possible convex-earth fame, and then later reporting on modern Africa) the trail goes nowhere quickly.

I think we all know what became of Norry's "charity foundation." It was all marketing BS or, maybe, he was honest at first but now he sees the numbers/profits are so bad from the Beyoond Bleef "tv program" and C2C that he is saving his money just waiting for the ax to finally drop on his career.

[Daggit]

No problem. Btw, though news and research keeps coming out it still is not 100% confirmed that there was a specific "Gulf War Syndrome", from what I can tell but, maybe, a more nebulous number of health problems associated with the war(s.) (Chemical weapon exposure, the waste from the burning hydrocarbons, use of DU, diseases, trauma, inoculations and vaccinations, diet, etc.) The important thing is, hopefully, Vets will get help with whatever issues they have- even if they are "psycho-somatic"- if anything I hope we learned that mental problems also are a key concern. Just a number of years ago complaining Vets would be turned away because "it was all in their heads." Even recently soldiers are being dismissed for violations often caused by their psychical pain (and get into drugs, often first prescribed to them!) or mental problems (caused by broken families, multiple deployment, etc)- to save money etc. Shameful.

I recall that Keating thread but the answer still seems to be in question. And as for Jan Lamprecht (initially of Hollow Earth, and even possible convex-earth fame, and then later reporting on modern Africa) the trail goes nowhere quickly.

I think we all know what became of Norry's "charity foundation." It was all marketing BS or, maybe, he was honest at first but now he sees the numbers/profits are so bad from the Beyoond Bleef "tv program" and C2C that he is saving his money just waiting for the ax to finally drop on his career.

The thing I found interesting about Gulf War Syndrome was that the family and friends of victims were also developing similar symptoms as the vet.

As for Noory's "charity" it probably died a quick death because the suits couldn't make any money out of it. 

[cweb]

3) that "charity foundation" that Norry kept talking about? Remember? He was going to set up a charity foundation  to help out listeners on fixed-incomes, with health problems, or in dire financial straits? Talked about it quite a bit and then.....nothing. Never mentions it anymore.

He blew it all on Just For Men to keep the 'stache a shiny black.

[pyewacket]

3) that "charity foundation" that Norry kept talking about? Remember? He was going to set up a charity foundation  to help out listeners on fixed-incomes, with health problems, or in dire financial straits? Talked about it quite a bit and then.....nothing. Never mentions it anymore.

I hope I'm not being Captain Obvious here, but I can't believe George would be up to it.

If I had to guess- it's due to the hard work, expense, and federal oversight involved. You can't just take donations and keep records in a spiral notebook. A governing board needs to be set up and detailed articles of incorporation written and filed. You know, like grown ups do. This isn't a casual endeavour- you have to have a clear purpose and be held fiscally accountable by the IRS. There are rules covering non profits. You can't just BS your way around them.

George would have to hire professionals to run it for him. And they expect to be paid.   

[Uncle Duke]

Thanks for the information.

According to this thread on BellGab she (Kathleen Keating) passed away in 2010.

I can almost guarantee the Kathleen Keating who died in 2010 is not the woman who was the frequent C2C guest.  First and foremost, that gal was too old to have been "our" Keating.  As a military history writer who has tracked down many vets, and after their deaths, their families, I can also tell you it is much easier to find information on the dead than the living.  The dead are not protected by privacy legislation, and their survivors/loved ones/friends are very often quite active in making sure the world knows what the deceased accomplished in life.  I looked for "our" Keating in death, if she's dead it's not under the "Kathleen Keating" name.

If I were a betting man, I'd say she's either gone to ground after repeatedly making a fool of herself in her books and during interviews, and/or "Kathleen Keating" was a pen name and she simply quit playing the role.

[albrecht]

I can almost guarantee the Kathleen Keating who died in 2010 is not the woman who was the frequent C2C guest.  First and foremost, that gal was too old to have been "our" Keating.  As a military history writer who has tracked down many vets, and after their deaths, their families, I can also tell you it is much easier to find information on the dead than the living.  The dead are not protected by privacy legislation, and their survivors/loved ones/friends are very often quite active in making sure the world knows what the deceased accomplished in life.  I looked for "our" Keating in death, if she's dead it's not under the "Kathleen Keating" name.

If I were a betting man, I'd say she's either gone to ground after repeatedly making a fool of herself in her books and during interviews, and/or "Kathleen Keating" was a pen name and she simply quit playing the role.

You could certainly be right. It is definitely easier to find out about people, especially older ones and before internet chatter, post-mortum. But, from her shows, it also be she was estranged from her family and/or was using a pen-name that might even have been legalized- especially if she was older. Sadly a number of people if they live long enough and/or become estranged, move, or isolated end up not having relatives that might not know about them, especially as a generation passes (unless there is a substantial estate) and either die escheat, or in near poverty, and people won't learn about their earlier achievements (or lack thereof) or even death.
But I would like to think your scenario because I enjoyed her shows back in the day, as nutso as they were.

Now get on Jan Lamprecht's trail! Last I could find on the internet he abandoned his "Hollow-Earth" stuff and was reporting on the crimes in the modern South Africa region and then car-jacked and killed (but then posted some stuff later on those inflammatory, but also mainly true, websites.) And then....nothing. Killed? Faker all the time? Retired to his estate and winery protected by Rhodesian Ridgebacks and mercs to ponder the mathematics of hollow planets? Joined Thompson in an ill-fated venture to the hole to the hollow earth and disappeared? Who knows??

[bigchucka]

I can almost guarantee the Kathleen Keating who died in 2010 is not the woman who was the frequent C2C guest.  First and foremost, that gal was too old to have been "our" Keating.  As a military history writer who has tracked down many vets, and after their deaths, their families, I can also tell you it is much easier to find information on the dead than the living.  The dead are not protected by privacy legislation, and their survivors/loved ones/friends are very often quite active in making sure the world knows what the deceased accomplished in life.  I looked for "our" Keating in death, if she's dead it's not under the "Kathleen Keating" name.

If I were a betting man, I'd say she's either gone to ground after repeatedly making a fool of herself in her books and during interviews, and/or "Kathleen Keating" was a pen name and she simply quit playing the role.

I never did find an obituary for Evelyn Paglini...

[PB the Deplorable]

Whatever happened to two of the sillier topics - 'rods' and 'mothman'?

[Uncle Duke]

I never did find an obituary for Evelyn Paglini...

From personal experience about one-third of those who die do not have an obit published, at least in the traditional sense where it's printed in a newspaper.  An obit has to be written, submitted and pre-paid before being printed, and locally it's $6.55 a line (30-33 characters/per line) with an additional fee for a photo.  Average price is something over $100/day, so it's no surprise some people die without anyone willing to take the time to write and/or pop for an obit.  With social media, I expect newspaper obits to die off (no pun intended) within a generation of two.

One thing I found interesting when my wife's grandmother died was about 5% of obits submitted for publication are refused by local newspapers.  The obit specialist I spoke with told me most are declined because they are judged to be in poor taste, some for being outright offensive. 

[albrecht]

One thing I found interesting when my wife's grandmother died was about 5% of obits submitted for publication are refused by local newspapers.  The obit specialist I spoke with told me most are declined because they are judged to be in poor taste, some for being outright offensive.

I want to read some of those. Even if there is no obit aren't there usually at least a "death notice?" in the paper (or on the county archives etc?)
I've also heard for more famous people that they have obits ready to go and updated, especially if they are older or lead crazy lives. Not sure if that's true or not but make sense as everyone wants to be first to report. I like the Telegraph's and Economist's obit (the recent one for PD James in the Economist was nice.)

[PB the Deplorable]

... I've also heard for more famous people that they have obits ready to go and updated...

Every once in awhile one gets printed by mistake

[Daggit]

I never did find an obituary for Evelyn Paglini...

This is her Facebook page which she used to maintain and is now maintained by someone else. It documents her passing. According to the page Coast did a tribute show just after her passing. I believe that Art also commented on her passing on his Facebook page.

https://m.facebook.com/Dr.EvelynPaglini

There is also an Evelyn Paglini Estate Sale Facebook page. You can grab one of her spell books at bargain basement prices. But beware the ten fold.

https://m.facebook.com/ThePagliniCollection

[Daggit]

Whatever happened to two of the sillier topics - 'rods' and 'mothman'?

After all these years I have never heard a show on the mothman but have heard the name mothman mentioned. I always just assumed mothman was one of the less successful comic book franchises.

[albrecht]

After all these years I have never heard a show on the mothman but have heard the name mothman mentioned. I always just assumed mothman was one of the less successful comic book franchises.

I've heard "mothman" mentioned several times on C2C in the past year or so, but only in passing and usually when a "cryptid expert" is on. Some callers have mentioned him also. But no full shows or big discussion on him in quite a while. As for "rods" they seem to have disappeared, maybe into a Hollow-Earth or alternative dimension? Unfortunately, "orbs" still are mentioned.

[wr250]

I've heard "mothman" mentioned several times on C2C in the past year or so, but only in passing and usually when a "cryptid expert" is on. Some callers have mentioned him also. But no full shows or big discussion on him in quite a while. As for "rods" they seem to have disappeared, maybe into a Hollow-Earth or alternative dimension? Unfortunately, "orbs" still are mentioned.

the mothman is avoiding noory suckage.
rods were rendered extinct by said suckage.

[Daggit]

Unfortunately, "orbs" still are mentioned.

Orbs are the performance enhancing drug of the reality TV ghost hunting industry.

[albrecht]

Orbs are the performance enhancing drug of the reality TV ghost hunting industry.

But have "Orbs" ever had a MOVIE? (Ok, straight to video but still!) And one in which Art Bell himself is listed in credits (I think they used the Coast or Dreamland interview in the film?)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167359/?ref_=nm_flmg_slf_4
RODS: The Smoking Gun Evidence!

http://www.documentarywire.com/rods-the-smoking-gun-evidence/

[Uncle Duke]

I've heard "mothman" mentioned several times on C2C in the past year or so, but only in passing and usually when a "cryptid expert" is on. Some callers have mentioned him also. But no full shows or big discussion on him in quite a while. As for "rods" they seem to have disappeared, maybe into a Hollow-Earth or alternative dimension? Unfortunately, "orbs" still are mentioned.

You owe it to yourself to visit the Mothman's home town of Point Pleasant, WV.  In the town square is a very tacky statue (see below) of the town's most celebrated citizen.  There is also an equally tacky museum that occupies a former Kentucky Fried Chicken shop.  For an extra fee, the museum will put you on a small bus and take you to tour the actual sightings sites.  As you would expect, there are several little shops nearby that sell Mothman souvenirs.  I still proudly own my Mothman bottle opener.

[albrecht]

You owe it to yourself to visit the Mothman's home town of Point Pleasant, WV.  In the town square is a very tacky statue (see below) of the town's most celebrated citizen.  There is also an equally tacky museum that occupies a former Kentucky Fried Chicken shop.  For an extra fee, the museum will put you on a small bus and take you to tour the actual sightings sites.  As you would expect, there are several little shops nearby that sell Mothman souvenirs.  I still proudly own my Mothman bottle opener.

If I get that way I will! I usually like cheesey road-side stuff. Though I must admit being very disappointed with Roswell, NW. Drove through it on the way to Taos a few years ago. Very disappointed. Nothing was open and it wasn't too late (though I recall maybe a Sunday?) And the only cool thing I saw and wanted to buy (but shop was unopen) was a shirt featuring an alien dressed in a serape, holding a bottle of tequila, by a cactus with the lettering "Roswell, New Mexico: The Original Illegal Alien."

Aside from some of the Indian ruins and the ski areas I must admit being very not impressed with New Mexico in general and Santa Fe way over-rated unless you are a woman and want shop for stuff.

[PB the Deplorable]

After all these years I have never heard a show on the mothman but have heard the name mothman mentioned. I always just assumed mothman was one of the less successful comic book franchises.

Like The Tick?   


In the heyday of Mothman Mania there was even a movie, starring a post-gerbiled Richard Gere

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0265349/

[DanTSX]

http://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/gulfwar/benefits/registry-exam.asp
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/gulf-war-syndrome-veterans_n_2634838.html
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html?_r=0

My "what ever happened to...."
1) Kathleen Keating
2) Jan Lamprecht (murdered over a carjacking?Kidnapped? And who (maybe) assumed his identity after the car-jacking on some websites?)
and the big one.....
3) that "charity foundation" that Norry kept talking about? Remember? He was going to set up a charity foundation  to help out listeners on fixed-incomes, with health problems, or in dire financial straits? Talked about it quite a bit and then.....nothing. Never mentions it anymore.

Ditto on Jan Lamprecht.




But that was more of a topic in crazy-ass Renseland, than C2C.


Do you have any info?

[albrecht]

Ditto on Jan Lamprecht.




But that was more of a topic in crazy-ass Renseland, than C2C.


Do you have any info?

Nope. And can't find anything on him. Weird. Hope he's ok n someone posts update.

[Juan Cena]

Thanks for the information.

According to this thread on BellGab she passed away in 2010.

I thought it was Joyce Riley who was the Gulf War Syndrome person?

[Daggit]

I thought it was Joyce Riley who was the Gulf War Syndrome person?

She was.

albrecht was posting info about Gulf War Syndrome and then was listing a few other whatever happened tos and one of them was Kathleen Keating and I was pointing out that according to another thread on BellGab Kathleen had passed away.