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Grand Jury decision in "Gentle Giant" or "Thug" police killing made.

Started by albrecht, November 24, 2014, 03:54:13 PM

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: NowhereInTime on December 13, 2014, 11:27:51 AM

Yes, but then how do you explain all that sucking?

Do they even do that anymore? Last I heard they sparkled or some shit like that.

Now, it's only vampires that I'm concerned about. Gay vampires are over done. It's time to move on. There are plenty of other stories liberal writers can homoeroticize and finally leave Dracula alone. Frankenstein could easily be adapted into a transsexual tale of accidently putting a man's brain in a woman's body. The Sherlock Holmes stories beg for trysts with Watson that involve the calabash pipe being used in new and creative ways. Don't even get me started on what you could do with Moby Dick.




Gd5150

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on December 13, 2014, 10:35:11 PM
Do they even do that anymore? Last I heard they sparkled or some shit like that.

Now, it's only vampires that I'm concerned about. Gay vampires are over done. It's time to move on. There are plenty of other stories liberal writers can homoeroticize and finally leave Dracula alone. Frankenstein could easily be adapted into a transsexual tale of accidently putting a man's brain in a woman's body. The Sherlock Holmes stories beg for trysts with Watson that involve the calabash pipe being used in new and creative ways. Don't even get me started on what you could do with Moby Dick.

Billionaire studs who look like Christian Bale and tie some homely average woman up so they can endlessly pleasure her and fall in love with her are the new sparkling gay vampire. And this is a good thing. After all men have elephant porn tube, women need something too.

Zoo


Quote from: Paper*Boy on December 15, 2014, 12:30:41 AM
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You do know that is fake right? Just checking.....

Never talk to police. You have rights use them or lose them!!1

paladin1991

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on December 13, 2014, 01:43:18 AM
Yeah I knew. I didn't mention it because of the awkwardness. Sorry about passing the herp from the chick I was doing at the time to my ex. Damn, really sorry about that.
We're cool, bro.  VA says that I should be able to get in for a consult in Jan, 2016.  Fuckers.

paladin1991

Quote from: Zoo on December 15, 2014, 02:49:52 AM
You do know that is fake right? Just checking.....

Never talk to police. You have rights use them or lose them!!1
Roger that.  They are not your friends.  At best, they will be a peacekeeper.  More commonly, they will be revenue collectors. 

Quote from: Zoo on December 15, 2014, 02:49:52 AM
You do know that is fake right? Just checking.....

Actually, they fed what was written on each poster in Ferguson into a computer and asked it to distil them down to their essence. 

That's what came out.

Zoo

Quote from: Paper*Boy on December 17, 2014, 12:34:10 PM
Actually, they fed what was written on each poster in Ferguson into a computer and asked it to distil them down to their essence. 

That's what came out.


Ya fake!!1

VtaGeezer


Turns out that Witness #40 ("...charged at the cop like a football player") whom so many relied on to justify their position is a fraud. 

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/unmasking-Ferguson-witness-40-496236

albrecht

Quote from: VtaGeezer on December 17, 2014, 01:21:25 PM
Turns out that Witness #40 ("...charged at the cop like a football player") whom so many relied on to justify their position is a fraud. 

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/unmasking-Ferguson-witness-40-496236
The autotopsies show where he was shot so considering his height he was either "charging like a football player" or shot when falling after running towards the officer. Either way I find this witness very suspect:
"that she was planning to “pop in” on a former high school classmate she had not seen in 26 years. Saddled with an incorrect address and no cell phone, McElroy claimed that she pulled over to smoke a cigarette and seek directions from a black man standing under a tree."

What person, in their right mind, decides to "pop in" on someone they haven't seen in 26 years? And what person, especially a lone white woman in a black neighborhood, "seeks directions from a black man standing under a tree?"

She is as credible as the "hands up, don't shoot" witnesses.
ps: what is amazing is that a person, who wasn't even charged and did not do the shooting is subject to such an through background check by TSG, a site usually associated with drunken antics and Hollywood movie star's riders. We never learned in NEARLY amount of detail about the "gentle giant" or his family. Like, what about his step-father who exhorted people to "burn this bitch down?" Or a detailed investigation into the past and family of the "he had his hands up" witness? Agenda. Nah, of course not.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: albrecht on December 17, 2014, 01:38:31 PM
She is as credible as the "hands up, don't shoot" witnesses.
Not to most who read the TSG article.  She was singled out for investigation because she was the sole witness to fully corroborate Wilson's story and there was no evidence that she was at the scene at all.  And her account to police came only after the StL papers had printed full accounts of Wilson's story. She was also the witness most quoted on Fox News.  The worst part of this is that TSG found her and her checkered past in just a couple days. McCollogh had weeks to check her out.  Had he looked, he'd have quickly learned she twice before gave fabricated info to police in other high profile local cases previously, is a convicted felon, an open racist, and clinically bipolar.  Not that those would raise any questions in your mind.

albrecht

Quote from: VtaGeezer on December 17, 2014, 02:59:45 PM
Not to most who read the TSG article.  She was singled out for investigation because she was the sole witness to fully corroborate Wilson's story and there was no evidence that she was at the scene at all.  And her account to police came only after the StL papers had printed full accounts of Wilson's story. She was also the witness most quoted on Fox News.  The worst part of this is that TSG found her and her checkered past in just a couple days. McCollogh had weeks to check her out.  Had he looked, he'd have quickly learned she twice before gave fabricated info to police in other high profile local cases previously, is a convicted felon, an open racist, and clinically bipolar.  Not that those would raise any questions in your mind.
All witnesses, in my mind, are questionable, at best. Anybody familiar, at all with psychology or criminal investigation, would tell you that eye-witnesses to anything often provide the least reliable data. Especially upon recollection, under stress of questioning, and the importance and stress-level of the event in question, etc. Which is why they took many witness statements and why, assuming that they did not directly lie (big assumption in several cases) and compared them and other evidence.

But you don't answer the question: if such a detailed background check was done on this one witness by TSG why not on the "victim" and the other witnesses? No agenda, clearly. And why would "prior bad acts", or questionable family and raising, of the "gentle giant" be excluded but unreliability, mental condition, family history, and behavior of witnesses, one witness in particular, be pertinent?

VtaGeezer

Quote from: albrecht on December 17, 2014, 03:08:57 PM
All witnesses, in my mind, are questionable, at best. Anybody familiar, at all with psychology or criminal investigation, would tell you that eye-witnesses to anything often provide the least reliable data. Especially upon recollection, under stress of questioning, and the importance and stress-level of the event in question, etc. Which is why they took many witness statements and why, assuming that they did not directly lie (big assumption in several cases) and compared them and other evidence.

But you don't answer the question: if such a detailed background check was done on this one witness by TSG why not on the "victim" and the other witnesses? No agenda, clearly. And why would "prior bad acts", or questionable family and raising, of the "gentle giant" be excluded but unreliability, mental condition, family history, and behavior of witnesses, one witness in particular, be pertinent?
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Answered, just it not to your liking. 

albrecht

Quote from: VtaGeezer on December 17, 2014, 04:25:57 PM
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Answered, just it not to your liking.
Clearly, there is no agenda in the media or in this administration. Hands up, Don't Shoot!! ;D

VtaGeezer

Quote from: albrecht on December 17, 2014, 04:46:49 PM
Clearly, there is no agenda in the media or in this administration. Hands up, Don't Shoot!! ;D
Falling back on "The Agenda" is always convenient.

albrecht

Quote from: VtaGeezer on December 17, 2014, 04:57:03 PM
Falling back on "The Agenda" is always convenient.
I don't recall any Obama statements, Obama or Holder press conferences when white people are killed by police? Including ones far worse than the "gentle giant" incident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvNj1ZpQNy0 (luckily this one did a bit of media attention and some local protests.) But not looting and rioting. And where are those racial pressure groups leading the charge to "burn this bitch down?!"

But now we get this guy Obama and his wife claim such awful racial travesties like being asked to get something down from a high-shelf at Target. Well, I'm white and I do that all the time for people at stores shorter than me and I don't work there. Big deal, it is called helping people out and being nice. Nothing to complain about, in fact, I usually offer if I see someone who can't reach something. Remind me to call David Duke or whoever is the supposed white-version of Sharpton and start a riot and burn some stuff.

No Agenda, at all. Hands Up, Don't Shoot!  :D

Zoo

Like I said a long time ago. Give me a month, a team of lawyers that are paid for, and let my friends be the ones to collect the evidence. I will have a air tight story too. As for white people being shoot- You really have no clue what is going on do you? This is a movement against police brutality and outright murder for blacks, as well as any other person being abused by Police!!1

Eddie Coyle

     After this afternoon's events, the NYPD patrolmen's union should "blue flu" from Christmas through New Year's until Bratton resigns and a retreating De Blasio has to treat them the way he bows to Sharpton.

     The cops should take the "shut it down" approach. They won't...the overtime is too good to pass up.

      The "Hands Up" "(Only) Black Lives Matter" crowd must take PR advice from the Palestinians. Not only has the middle not swayed towards them, but a double cop killing only serves to make the "militarization" of the police more inevitable because they can point to this ambush and plead for a goddamn Saracens to patrol Bed-Stuy. Good work.
     

albrecht

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on December 20, 2014, 04:14:13 PM

     After this afternoon's events, the NYPD patrolmen's union should "blue flu" from Christmas through New Year's until Bratton resigns and a retreating De Blasio has to treat them the way he bows to Sharpton.

     The cops should take the "shut it down" approach.

     They won't...the overtime is too good to pass up.

   
It would be interesting to see how De Blasio, and the other malcontents, would like having an "Escape from New York" weekend. I think the officers should do a "blue flu" and see how it turns out. Today two cops shot in their car by a guy who quickly later shot himself. Details are sketchy or not released yet but at least one of the officers is dead and the other critical.
http://www.myfoxny.com/story/27678153/2-nypd-officers-shot

The bad thing, besides the dead people, about the Sharpton/Obama/Holder rhetoric is that it increases the animosity towards the police AND reinforces the creeping attitude that many police have that it is "us against them" which can result in more unnecessary deaths (whether "gentle giants" and "youths" or police officers.) Meanwhile the Obamas of the world get sit back and grab more Federal power, crack down on more civil rights, and continue his Balkanization policy to destroy the country.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on December 20, 2014, 04:14:13 PM
     After this afternoon's events, the NYPD patrolmen's union should "blue flu" from Christmas through New Year's until Bratton resigns and a retreating De Blasio has to treat them the way he bows to Sharpton.

     The cops should take the "shut it down" approach. They won't...the overtime is too good to pass up.

      The "Hands Up" "(Only) Black Lives Matter" crowd must take PR advice from the Palestinians. Not only has the middle not swayed towards them, but a double cop killing only serves to make the "militarization" of the police more inevitable because they can point to this ambush and plead for a goddamn Saracens to patrol Bed-Stuy. Good work.
   


Be fair.  This mutt who killed these cops wasn't some protester gone wrong or self appointed avenger; he was a murderer with nothing to lose who had already killed his girlfriend in Baltimore.


http://nypost.com/2014/12/20/2-nypd-cops-shot-execution-style-in-brooklyn/


He wanted to go out with a blaze of glory and profaned Eric Garner's name in the process.  Then popped one into his own head anyway.

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: NowhereInTime on December 20, 2014, 05:21:09 PM

Be fair.  This mutt who killed these cops wasn't some protester gone wrong or self appointed avenger; he was a murderer with nothing to lose who had already killed his girlfriend in Baltimore.


http://nypost.com/2014/12/20/2-nypd-cops-shot-execution-style-in-brooklyn/


He wanted to go out with a blaze of glory and profaned Eric Garner's name in the process.  Then popped one into his own head anyway.

        Popped one in his own head as his ammo ran low and the cavalry was coming. I'm sure Dinkins I mean, De Blasio is devastated by this. Sharpton, too(("Outraged" he claims...just like Freddy's Fashion Mart). Yup. just one bad egg acting on his own. Pay no attention to the Instagram post announcing his intent and the hundreds upon of hundreds of "likes" it gained.

       

       

albrecht

Quote from: NowhereInTime on December 20, 2014, 05:21:09 PM

Be fair.  This mutt who killed these cops wasn't some protester gone wrong or self appointed avenger; he was a murderer with nothing to lose who had already killed his girlfriend in Baltimore.


http://nypost.com/2014/12/20/2-nypd-cops-shot-execution-style-in-brooklyn/


He wanted to go out with a blaze of glory and profaned Eric Garner's name in the process.  Then popped one into his own head anyway.
I actually agree with you. This latest male black, sorry "youth" or "gentle giant" (I forgot the nomenclature to use these days), who murdered the cops was likely a screwed up person. Which is why the divisive rhetoric from the Sharptons/Obama/Holder etc is so dangerous. Like with, though not as prominent anymore, the white racist types when they inspired the crazies and feathered their nests (and conscience) with the first amendment. All fine and good. I'm all for free speech, even if offensive. And one will note that the Aryan guy, forgot his name, got successfully sued and bankrupted civilly (they will never go after the black "nationalists" obviously.) But the President, or his minions, shouldn't be inflaming passions. The difference between Sharpton, or William Pierce (who was on Art's show), is that he wasn't elected and is not in charge; if even a figure-head. Forgetting, for sake of argument, Sharpton's frequent and full open-access on demand to the White House, Obama (and to extent Holder) are in the government and as such shouldn't encourage this distrust, animosity, etc towards the police. It would not surprise me one whit if tomorrow I see either one, on vacation now, wearing a "don't snitch" t-shirt (with the exception in IRS cases, of course.)

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on December 20, 2014, 05:37:13 PM
        Popped one in his own head as his ammo ran low and the cavalry was coming. I'm sure Dinkins I mean, De Blasio is devastated by this. Sharpton, too(("Outraged" he claims...just like Freddy's Fashion Mart). Yup. just one bad egg acting on his own. Pay no attention to the Instagram post announcing his intent and the hundreds upon of hundreds of "likes" it gained.


I hope to fuck the people who he bragged to are prosecuted for sitting on their hands. We've been through cop assassinations in the seventies in NYC, and now it's beginning to look like old times again. This cowardly bastard isn't one bad egg, he's the poster boy for assholes who think this is somehow going to even the score. My sympathies are with these officers' families and their colleagues. I'm glad DiBlasio is banned from their funerals, and I'm as liberal as they get.


ETA: Apparently his girlfriend's mother did the right thing after he shot her daughter, and contacted the NYC police who were unable to grab him before he shot the officers. Good for her. I hope her daughter recovers fully.

Quote from: albrecht on December 20, 2014, 04:34:32 PM
... The bad thing, besides the dead people, about the Sharpton/Obama/Holder rhetoric is that it increases the animosity towards the police AND reinforces the creeping attitude that many police have that it is "us against them" which can result in more unnecessary deaths (whether "gentle giants" and "youths" or police officers.) ...

That is the point.  To create further chaos, further confusion, further division, further violence and destruction.  To keep hate alive.  The goal of the protestors around here (and I have to assume everywhere else) is 1) to agitate and attack the police until they finally get a response, then go whine about police aggression and try to get more policies implemented that reduces the ability of the police to do their jobs, and 2) to see the reaction and learn about up to date police tactics, in order to use that against them in future protests.

The race hustlers and rioters are simply vile.  The do not mean well for our country, just the opposite.  From Obama and Holder on down to the lowest lowlife out throwing rocks.  Notice it didn't matter whether the cop was justified or not, they just needed a reason to hold all thee demonstrations, to keep black America rattled, fearful, angry, and on edge.  It's not a coincidence that hate and death follow in Sharpton's wake.  Well done.

All these race baiters ought to be arrested and flown off to Gitmo for their military trials. 

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: Unscreened Caller on December 20, 2014, 08:45:33 PM

I hope to fuck the people who he bragged to are prosecuted for sitting on their hands. We've been through cop assassinations in the seventies in NYC, and now it's beginning to look like old times again. This cowardly bastard isn't one bad egg, he's the poster boy for assholes who think this is somehow going to even the score. My sympathies are with these officers' families and their colleagues. I'm glad DiBlasio is banned from their funerals, and I'm as liberal as they get.


ETA: Apparently his girlfriend's mother did the right thing after he shot her daughter, and contacted the NYC police who were unable to grab him before he shot the officers. Good for her. I hope her daughter recovers fully.

    De Blasio's inflammatory comments about worrying/fearing that something could happen to his son via the police cannot be walked back and will haunt him. He looked like a subordinate to Bratton at the press conference.

     The days of Foster and Laurie getting blown away by BLA scum are hopefully long gone, and hopefully this is a "lone nut" scenario. Sharpton should be praying hardest that this doesn't become a trend.

      Nation of Islam losing a member today. I'm sure Farrakhan will condemn this young man's death by "police violence", and will spin conspiracies about "no white cops being killed in this attack".

Quick Karl

Quote from: NowhereInTime on December 20, 2014, 05:21:09 PM
...Then popped one into his own head anyway.

The mark of a true pussy.

Obama, de Blasio, an Sharpton, have this blood on their hands.

albrecht

Quote from: Paper*Boy on December 20, 2014, 09:07:08 PM
That is the point.  To create further chaos, further confusion, further division, further violence and destruction.  To keep hate alive.  The goal of the protestors around here (and I have to assume everywhere else) is 1) to agitate and attack the police until they finally get a response, then go whine about police aggression and try to get more policies implemented that reduces the ability of the police to do their jobs, and 2) to see the reaction and learn about up to date police tactics, in order to use that against them in future protests.

The race hustlers and rioters are simply vile.  The do not mean well for our country, just the opposite.  From Obama and Holder on down to the lowest lowlife out throwing rocks.  Notice it didn't matter whether the cop was justified or not, they just needed a reason to hold all thee demonstrations, to keep black America rattled, fearful, angry, and on edge.  It's not a coincidence that hate and death follow in Sharpton's wake.  Well done.

All these race baiters ought to be arrested and flown off to Gitmo for their military trials.
Don't forget that we also have the Obama Doctrine. The open-border with a narco-state and amnesty, or "Dreamer", or whatever status if they can get here. And you think what happens with the Sharpton/Obama/Holder people do is bad once they have been motivated by their speeches and press conferences? Wait until you see what REAL "gangstas" and corrupt politicians do. They massacres students and throw them in mass graves, they behead with chainsaw on video, they peel and scalp victims alive, the murder thousands of women, they have "heroes" who are famed and called El Pozolero because he made so many bodies into "soup". And worse. (Look at borderlandbeat, blog del narco, or Mexican news online (mainline Mexican news has been neutered due to killings.) And there already are racial/ethnic fights between blacks and Hispanics in our cities, and especially schools. Obama WANTS this because it hurts the country. That is what is so bad. And, despite his background, the blacks will come out for the worse due to sheer numbers and due to former, and current, government and cultural policies and beliefs.

Quote from: albrecht on December 20, 2014, 09:42:27 PM
... massacres students and throw them in mass graves, they behead with chainsaw on video, they peel and scalp victims alive, the murder thousands of women, they have "heroes" who are famed and called El Pozolero because he made so many bodies into "soup". And worse...

No problem as long as they vote Democrat.  And become clients of the handout agencies.



Quote from: albrecht on December 20, 2014, 09:42:27 PM
... Obama WANTS this because it hurts the country...

Well yeah, that too.

What on Earth did people expect we'd get when they voted for that A-Hole?  None of his shenanigans should be a surprise to anyone

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